#Iliad

[wolfythewitch]

“what’s your favorite horror movie?”

idk maybe when Andromache drew a bath for Hector to return to, not knowing that he was already dead

Idk maybe when his baby son cried at the sight of his father in a helmet, and so, laughing with his wife, he took it off and laid it on the ground, then held his son in his arms and kissed his head. All the while, his house mourned for him while he was still living

IDK IDK maybe when he died, Achilles tied him to his chariot and dragged him around troy for his family to see. Maybe when his people had to stop his aged father from running out the gates and wallowing in dung to beg for his son's body. Maybe when Achilles continued to desecrate his body for the next several days, until the gods themselves couldn't bear it any longer, all the while keeping his body preserved from injury. Maybe when Priam, the old king, kissed his sons' murderer's hands under the cover of night just to get his eldest's body back

[qinnyanimation]

A re-upload of my old Odydio about this HC! Still love it till this day.

[justvea18]

Your hand in mine

Redraw of this art I did last year

[thhouseofblack]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: EPIC - Jorge Rivera-Herrans (Albums), The Iliad - Homer, Ancient Greek Religion & Lore Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Diomedes/Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Diomedes/Odysseus (EPIC: The Musical) Characters: Diomedes (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Diomedes (EPIC: The Musical), Odysseus (EPIC: The Musical), Odysseus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Athena (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Aphrodite (EPIC: The Musical), Aphrodite (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Sthenelus son of Capaneus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Aeneas (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Pandarus son of Lycaon (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Agamemnon (EPIC: The Musical), Agamemnon (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Menelaus (EPIC: The Musical), Menelaus (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Nestor (EPIC: The Musical), Nestor (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Ajax the Greater son of Telamon (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore) Additional Tags: Canon Compliant, Parent Aphrodite (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Myth of Aphrodite taking the form of the one you love and desire the most, Trojan War, Bottom Odysseus (EPIC: The Musical), Odysseus Is Confused (EPIC: The Musical), Top Diomedes (EPIC: The Musical), Diomedes-Centric (Ancient Greek Religion & Lore), Inspired by Qinny's Art Summary:

She shrieked in pain. A cry, high and keening, rang out from lips that should not have been his, a sound like the shattering of a lyre string, like the breaking of something too fragile to have ever been upon the field of war, so unlike Odysseus.

Yet it is Odysseus’ face that twists in pain and for a heartbeat, Diomedes faltered. It is a cruel thing, to see that visage – beloved, cherished – contorted in agony, to hear a voice that has only screamed and moaned in pleasure into his ear now raised in a shriek of torment. His grip tightens around his shield, knuckles whitening as his mind battled against the illusion, against the deception that would undo him.

No. This is not Odysseus. This is Aphrodite.

 (Or, Diomedes knows that none can see the Lady Aphrodite's true form, that she appears as one's most desired, adored and loved. Yet it still takes him aback entirely when she appears to him as Odysseus)

[katerinaaqu]

Odysseus and weapon of choice (a small analysis)

I find it interesting how the majority of artists and art depict Odysseus using bow and arrows exclusively and honestly I can see why. The reason is very good given how his bow is the most iconic weapon we see in the Homeric Poems and a weapon everyone remembers (pretty much the same as the great shield of Achilles if not more) and we do speak on Odysseus's great skill as an archer.

However...

I find it interesting how, ironically, Odysseus's weapons of choice is usually the spear. During the events of the Iliad Odysseus is mostly praised on his skill on the spear (compered to it even with great names like Achilles and Ajax), in most of his battles during the events of the Iliad (for example his fight against Socus and the Trojans in the 11th rhapsody) or in other events like the Odyssey Odysseus is observed to be armed usually with a spear (for example when he wears his armor to protect his men from Skylla he is seen to hold two spears in his hands) or even during the boar hunting scene, Odysseus's weapon of choice was not the bow and the arrow but it was the spear.

The fact that Odysseus has the bow as an iconic weapon is definitely not by chance given how Odysseus is known for his unorthodox methods that prioritize his safety over glorious battles. The bow and arrows usually were criticized as weapons of action by the Greeks as a cowardly weapon, something that is not supposed to be used by a warrior that respects himself. Known archer criticized for example was no other than Paris himself (ironically the same stigma didn't seem to apply to warriors like Philoctetes, maybe because of his fame and his importance as Heracles's companion, or Teucer most likely because Teucer was already stigmatized as illegitimate in some versions and being half-Trojan) It is not by chance that Odysseus begins his revenge against the suitors with a bow and arrows. It is a weapon that allows a cunning person deal damage from a distance and manage to ensure the odds being with himself given how he was surrounded by hostile men and he needed to even the odds as much as he could without engaging directly. However I find it extremely interesting how in combat Odysseus holds the spear as a weapon of choice, engaging more in close-range battle (even if not as closed as swords would permit)

In one way this signifies his duality in such a poetic way.

Arguably the bow and arrows unless shot through someone's vitals, is not a lethal weapon, at least not directly (thus Odysseus performing killing shots to the neck -Antinous- or the liver -Eurymachus-) and its aim is to cause damage enough to get someone out of battle, potentially occupying yet another person that shall take them to safety. Normally an arrow through a shoulder, a foot or an arm would not cause lethal damage especially through armor.

The spear if used properly is much more lethal weapon in combat. Odysseus is infamously seen doing a fair amount of killing using spears or swords for example killing Socus by stabbing him through the heart from the back or killing the boar by stabbing it to the shoulder. The weapon can also go through someone's vitals much easier given how it is used as close range weapon so someone has a visual contact with their opponent. A spear also even if it pierces an arm it can still sink deeper if the wielder keeps pushing it to an opponent.

This duality is also fitting Odysseus. On one hand he is a cunning person who wishes to deal damage to his opponent as much as possible. In that area an arrow would do the job; forcing an opponent to be nullified (potentially killed in the near future by infections to the wound) while occupying yet another person that would carry them out of the battlefield. and yet Odysseus apart from his viscous hits is a deadly fighter; someone who goes for the kill. With his strength and technique the killing shot can be delivered with a spear

However another duality can be seen

A bow requires precision, calmness and cunning to be drawn and aimed. Stability in hand and eye and good eyesight. It is a weapon of someone who knows the best strategy is to be away from battle, away from the main action. Which is what Odysseus does many times over

A spear requires technique, strength and power to be thrust properly and used and cause the maximum damage to the opponent and good hand coordination while fighting an opponent straight into the field of action but having in mind some distance between yourself and your opponent which again Odysseus does very often

Odysseus of course prefers to stay out of the field of action, perform his strategies when it is the proper time for him to go out at the field and get involved there. He doesn't care what name he gets as long as he survives another day. On the other hand Odysseus wants and craves praise and glory like any other warrior even if he doesn't always pursue it with the cost of his own safety. That purpose serves a direct battle, into the action and in the field. The spear that represents this more ferocious and proud side of his is definitely not a coincidence in my opinion. Odysseus is definitely a man prone to violence especially in battlefield and he aims for lethal force which is served better with a spear than a bow and arrow especially in times of pressure within the battlefield.

Cunning vs Strength, Caution vs Bravery, Survival vs Glory

His sides are served by the fact that his iconic weapon is a bow but his weapon of choice is a spear.

But what do you guys think? Leave your thoughts below! ^_^

[blue-lotus333]

The Worship of Odysseus.

Although Odysseus was not as widely revered as heroes like Heracles or Achilles, he was still honored in certain locations, particularly those associated with the Odyssey or the folklore surrounding him.

Places of Worship: Strabo, in his Geography, mentions an altar dedicated to Odysseus that allegedly exists in Tunisia, in an area he refers to as Meninx. He describes this region as the land of the Lotus Eaters, where the altar of Odysseus and a depiction of the lotus fruit can be found. Pliny the Elder, in his Natural History, refers to a small group of islands opposite Vibo called Ithacesiæ, which are identified with present-day islands such as Torricella, Praca, and Brace. He mentions a statue of Odysseus located there, likely intended for worship or honor.

Odysseus is also linked as a founder of several cities, including Lisbon and Rome, often associated with Aeneas, as well as a city in Spain called “Odyssea.” Furthermore, there is no doubt that he was venerated by the Cephallenians.

Additionally, places like Aetolia, Epirus, and Tarentum in southern Italy also practiced his worship. Later, the Spartans had a shrine dedicated to Odysseus, claiming to house the Palladium that he had stolen from Troy.

Sources:

- https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0099.tlg001.perseus-grc1:17.3.17

- http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0137:book=3:chapter=13#note21

- http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0099.tlg001.perseus-grc1:3.4.3

- John Tzetzes on Lycophron’s Alexandra 799.

- Aristotle, On Marvellous Things Heard 840a

- Plutarch, Greek Questions 48.

[nlenyeyee]

Them☹️

[diarunas]

Patroclus petting one of his nine dogs!! It’s just a little doodle, but I figured sharing it since we gotta give some love to Pat’s dogs

[aidanordanny]

Mama's boy <3

[qinnyanimation]

Found one! I drew this MONTHS ago on the very first week I found out about their situationship.

It was that moment in Iliad book 10 where they literally bath each other. First in the sea, another in a tub while rubbing each other with oil…..that was gay enough for me to hyper-fixated on the till this day….

At that time I still didn’t know much about them so Odysseus here appeared quite distant in his choice of word. But now I know basically almost all about them….in an unhealthy level oh my god forget about grass touching, I need to consume the whole yard after all this.

[calliopereads013]

Vea I love your Patrochilles so much

I'm not drawing armor again (few notes under cut)

I heavily based the armor from this pottery art where Achilles is bandaging Patroclus' arrow wound only changing their skirts/kilts(?) and a few elements. Also changed Achilles' helmet a bit because I really want to lean in on the idea his face is obscured so Patroclus is not recognized when he's wearing it (from afar at least)

[sylvyspritii]

Ah yes the three classics

[blue-lotus333]

Why are Odysseus haters becoming so insufferable

[wolfythewitch]

Odysseus sketch based on my favorite pottery art of him

[deadbaguette]

Dear children of Priam, were you doomed all along?