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while it would be nice to see patrochilles presented as romantically queer i have a bad feeling that it will be only portrayed as such as their bond as best friends, family, and comrade will be overshadowed
#i really liked paris the musical for their patrochilles tbh#what price a friend has great lyrics to describe it#<- am i a part of you? are you a part of me? my sometimes father my sometimes son. your word is my bond to the end#IT CAN BE READ AS HOMOEROTIC BUT ALSO AS COMPAINIONS!!! IT CAN BE INTERPRETED AS MANY THINGS#i honestly love them best as ambiguous#it really highlights their bond like theyre soulmates bro…#they are each others everything like “light of my heart (strangely cannot remember the exact wording rn oops)#BUT YK WHAT I MEAN#achilles saying patroklus is like a little girl crying to her mom -> their familial bond#the iliad#iliad#tagamemnon#patrochilles#patroklos#patroklus#patroclus#achilles#mafuyu loves homeric writing
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Mothers of Patroclus
+ How I personally see them, since theres barely any info abt them, imma take some creative liberties :p and yes, all of them are the wives of Menoetius. Idk why there’s so many different versions of Patroclus mother but..whatever
Philomela (probably the most popular woman to be seen as Patroclus’ mother). I imagine her to be a strict, disciplined and sensible woman.
Polymele, Daughter of peleus & half sister of Achilles. I imagine her to be very bubbly, generous and gentle (and mostly taking her appearance after her father ofc, also I can imagine her being VERY pissed at Achilles if she finds out that her son died bc of him)
Periopis, princess of Pherae & daughter of King Pheres. I imagine her to be compassionate & very kind
Sthenele, princess of Iolcus. I imagine her to be a bit dull, worn out and isolated.
Damocrateia, princess of Aegina, and a half-demigoddess half-Naiad daughter of Zeus & Aegina. I imagine her being charismatic, creative & expressive.
#patroclus#greek mythology#Iliad#the Iliad#epic cycle#tagamemnon#Philomela#Polymele#Periopis#Sthenele#Damocrateia#greek mythology art#Patroclus mother#ancient greek mythology#art#mythology#mythology art#if there’s more info abt any of them#let me know plssss#patroklus#Blue-Lotus arts
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Thetis: Why do people think I have distaste for you, Patroclus?
Patroclus: Because it was easiest to paint you that way. You’re a Nymph who was bound to mate with a mortal man. It was easy for them to spin that into hatred for me, hatred for humans.
Thetis: They have me mistaken. I love most humans. Some of you do some… questionable things, but then again, so do the gods.
Achilles: Everyone’s kind of messed up in their own way, aren’t we?
Patroclus: it’s what makes us unique. Even so, I thank you Thetis, for being supportive of your son and I.
Thetis: You mellow him out. You help him. How could I not support you?
*we love supportive mom Thetis here.*
#patrochilles#achilles#patroclus#patroklus#greek mythology#achillesandpatroclus#tsoa achilles#ancient greek#historical inaccuracies#quotes#madeline miller#the song of achilles#tsoa spoilers#inaccurate greek mythology#achilles and his grief#chiron#mount pelion#tsoa
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(Not relevant to this post. Subject: ramble abt the greatest of myrmidon.)
leading up to Patroclus’ death, it’s amazing how much Patroclus was accepted and uplifted into another community. How he went from being an exile to a healer, recognized as the best among myrmidon— truly amazing. Also, we see how Patroclus was able to break down Achilles walls, even if it didn’t seem like much. It made his untimely death more impactful. Everyone felt Patroclus’ death, but especially Achilles.
There’s just something so goddamn TRAGIC in Achilles’ beloved’s death being the thing to finally break the scales of pride that had been covering his eyes. He goes from thinking all he cares about is his reputation to literally being desperate to die - not just because Patroclus is gone but because he finally realised he prioritised the wrong thing and it’s too late to change it now. He also knows it shouldn’t have taken Patroclus’ death for him to realise this - a death that is, ultimately, his fault. How was Achilles ever meant to navigate those layers of grief and devastation?
#patroclus the healer#the song of achilles#patroclus#achilles#patrochilles#madeline miller#greek myth#greek myths#greek mythology#tsoa#patroklus#achilles and his grief
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“Boy with Flowers - Gordon - Rhododendrons”
Acrylic on paper
8x12
2025
#amateur artist#novice artist#acrylic#rhododendron#painting#artwork#original art#artists on tumblr#syergold#Song of Patroklus
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my mother….has tricked me….she replaced the normal instant coffee….with decaf……
#coffee#betrayal#how could you#this is how achilles felt#when patroklus died#my love why have you been taken#from me
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Yesssssss!!!
Let him kill Sarpedon in cold blood!!!
i hope we leave the soft boy thing behind and let patroclus kill in 2024. set him free
#greek mythology#the iliad#ancient greek mythology#greek myth#achilles#Patroklus#anti madeline miller
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Fun fact: Patroklus means father’s glory (the Patro part meaning father, klus part meaning glory”
#its also phonetically fitting w the words for father and glory so you can reasonably guess#tagamemnon#iliad#the iliad#greek mythology#patroclus
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Achilles & Patroclus | Alexander & Hephaestion
"As we know, the ashes of Achilles and Patroklus were mingled in one urn. Not even a god could sift the one from the other."
― Mary Renault, Fire From Heaven
"At their tombs in Troy, Alexander and Hephaistion had sacrificed together. Wound Patroklus, and Achilles will have your blood.”
― Mary Renault, The Persian Boy
#achilles#patroclus#patrochilles#alexander the great#alexander x hephaestion#hephaestion#ancient history#greek mythology#ancient greece#song of achilles#fire from heaven#dancing with the lion#booklr#books and reading
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do you guys think patroklus grew out of his anger issues or did he just becamr a master of hiding it? achilles on the other hand-
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« Matthew Lopez was developing ‘THE SONG OF ACHILLES’ into a TV series but the project fell apart. »
ACHILLES & PATROKLUS: FANCAST.


#song of achilles#achilles#patroclus#fancast#le chant d'achille#otp#books and libraries#readers#book#book review#fandom#series#tv shows
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*achilles comes across tumblr/ao3*
Achilles: Patroclus?
Patroclus: yes, love?
Achilles: Why are people so concerned with who’s on top or bottom?
Patroclus: … The internet is weird.
*some time later*
Achilles: Can they really determine that off of so little?
Patroclus: The age of the internet is scary, Achilles.
#I’m glad people are realizing this#but at the same time I’m like -people really do this.#patrochilles#achilles#patroclus#patroklus#greek mythology#achillesandpatroclus#tsoa achilles#ancient greek#historical inaccuracies
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You seem to have misinterpreted my ask.
That wasn't a complaint, it was a genuine question as to why. I was hoping for an explanation of your thought process, and of course, you're not required to give one but there was no need to call it a meaningless complaint.
But the quote is referring to Greek names specifically like Patroklus (in which I have seen spelled as such, specifically in Peter Green's translation of the Illiad), not necessarily every word that is Greek in origin. Cyclops and centaur are both names for creatures in greek mythology but they are not proper nouns. My question is what was your thought process to apply Grote's C->K to every word? It's not a "why should you be able to", it's a "why did you?"
It's also interesting to note in your story the plural you use for octopus is octopi. Not the english pluralization of octopuses or even the greek pluralization (as it is a greek origin word) of octopodes.
I don't think you realize how often I get complaints and questions about me doing k instead of C. It is at the point that's it's very frustrating to get those questions because I've answered it dozens of times in a bunch of different places (including here, if you'd checked the ATLOP asks tag).
And the quote refers to many utilizations of such, as I read the history book I can assure you it uses K spellings far more than C, and only uses C when the author deems it overwhelmingly familiar to the readers. He mentioned names specifically because the chart right before the quote was the Greek vs Roman Gods.
Additionally, I did the C to K long before I read that history book. I was simply very pleased when I read it and saved the quote for those sending such questions in the future, I thought a historian agreeing might make some people back off but apparently they just double down, who knew.
If you want a genuine answer: I am dyslexic, it is easier for my dyslexia to spell the words with K when the sound should be a K.
And yeah, cause Octopus and Octopi are words in two languages, not turning a Greek word into English spelling but otherwise keeping it in the same forms. Octopus is at this point both Greek and English, and I like the way Octopi better and it is considered one of three valid forms. Also, that's a nitpick.
#and no I dont use the os and stuff cause that confuses people more#i use a similar philosophy to the historian I quoted#in that I use the K but try to keep the overall spelling otherwise fairly close to the common spellings#so that the readers dont struggle overly much recognizing it#if they were speaking more formally then Id add the proper greek form as well#but for casual english speak they just use the k and maybe a few other fixes#life answers#woow thanks#and yes it does read as a complaint btw when you spend most of the ask trying to say why I shouldn't have done that#if you want to JUST ask a question#then... just ASK the question dont add a bunch of corrections too
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what do you think of doomed by the narrative?
gnawing at the bars of my enclosure that shit MAKES ME INSANE (/pos but also i'm on the floor sobbing)... frankenstein's monster... wolfstar, dorlene, just all the marauders... ruth and richie in the beginning of npmd and just hatchetfield never escaping apotheosis... akhilleus and patroklus... i could go on and on
#doomed by the narrative#i love a good tragedy#by that i mean it literally kills me dead every time#thanks for asking!#i am literally just a nerd
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Patrilles
So my dad is a teacher and at the grammar school he works at they have a club for lgbtqia+ people. The name of that club is Patrilles. The shipname for Achilles and Patroklus. The best gays (yes I know Achilles is bi) from the Greek mythology. Isn't that incredible?
#lgbtqia#lgbtqplus#lgbtq community#lgbt pride#queer#pride#lgbtq#bisexual#homosexual#gay#achilles#achilles and patroclus
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A quick Sailor moon sketch.
#syergold#Song of Patroklus#sailor moon#sketch#novice artist#amateur artist#gay artist#procreate#digital art
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