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ONCE UPON A TIME 4.11, Shattered Sight
#ouatedit#onceuponatimeedit#elsaedit#annaedit#once upon a time#ouat#anna#elsa#s4#4x11 shattered sight#dynamic: anna elsa#event: rewatch 22
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Meet Amala, Zahra's spunky little sister!
(If you’ve been following this AU since last year, you’ll know “Amala” was originally going to be Zahra’s name while the little sister was going to be named “Ayah”. I kinda got attached to the “Amala” name so I decided to give it to the little sister instead haha)
Cheerful and hopeful, Amala has always looked up to her big sister, Zahra. If you ask her, she's the biggest fan of Zahra's little fairytales (yes, higher than Noor themselves!). It was Zahra's stories, which are always full of "childish" hope and love, that helped Amala keep her childlike wonder and positivity despite the circumstances of their family's life. These stories however, influenced Amala to be too much of hopeless romantic who would sometimes annoy Zahra about her love life (and if the current story Zahra is telling has a cliffhanger, she’ll annoy her about the next part of the story).
I like to think a scenario like this would happen between them lmao:
Zahra is very protective of Amala, so she works tirelessly so Amala can have a peaceful and wonderful life where her dreams and wishes can come true. Amala feels the same about her sister, so she tries her best to behave and care of the house whenever Zahra is away doing her work. (Basically a Nani and Lilo dynamic/scenario).
While orphans from a young age, the sisters do have an older guardian who cares for them, their energetic and wise maternal grandpa Sidi Dabir. However, their sidi is growing old and senile, so sometimes even he needed to be taken care of sometimes. (Ill draw his design next and share more info about him soon).
When Noor came along, they and Amala got along really well! As a star spirit full of magic, Noor would sometimes show off their magic and play with Amala, who gets really excited about the fact that there’s a real magical star person right in front of her (and maybe her future brother-in-law, who knows).
Imagining scenarios about her interactions with Zahra and Noor is so fun lol, I can’t wait to show more of her hehe.
#rylxdraws#ryl rambles#once upon a wish#ouaw au#a storyteller’s wish#asw au#wish au#disney wish#wish 2023#amala#zahra#noor#wish concept art#wish asha#princess asha#starboy#wish star#wish dahlia#wish saba sabino#asha x starboy#starsha#character design#sketch#doodle#original character#character dynamics#character concept#reason why zahra has a lil sis is cuz sisterhood is such a common theme in disney movies nowadays#like… we have Nani and Lilo… Elsa and Anna… and so on… even Moana has joined with Simea
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Okay… hear me out. HEAR ME OUT.
DO YOU SEE IT. DO YOU SEE ITTTT.
#THEYRE LITERALLY THE SAME TROPE FOUR TIMES#‘whoopsies my sibling did a silly and almost got me killed’#..we don’t talk about Scar#The Golden Retriever and Black Cat dynamic 😭😭#my beloved#thor#loki#Thor and Loki#thor movies#marvel#avengers#lion king#mufasa#scar#scar lion king#Disney#elsa frozen#anna frozen#frozen#princess celestia#princess luna#my little pony#mlp#movies#funnies#cherrii.txt
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“Why do you like crossovers so much?”
Normal Answer: My favorite shows canonically crossed over when I was younger and it made me realize the potential and fun crossovers can bring!
My Answer: I saw 2 low res drawings of Merida/Rapunzel and Hiccup/Jack Frost making out Sloppy Style and being besties on my shitass ipod and it forever changed my brain chemistry. For better or for worse I can’t tell you, but I am having fun here.
#rotbtd still has a place in my heart and I’ll love it dearly; but I need you guys to understand my anger when Frozen started getting-#crossovered with it. It wasn’t cause I didn’t like Frozen; I actually really like the movies! I just didn’t believe for a second-#that Elsa would ever get with a dumbass like Jack and Anna and Hiccup would just be besties#also adding 2 more people to the 4 messed up a lot of the dynamics and aus cause many of them surround the fact that they’re 4 of them#like the seasons/ATLA aus got fucked UP cause people really wanted to add those 2.#as you can see I still have some quiet anger in me about it even though it’s been 10 whole years now lol#crossovers#rotbtd#rise of the brave tangled dragons#crossover#fandom#prince rambles in this chilies tonight
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Another relationship I really love in ‘Wynonna Earp’ is the “Earp sister” relationship between Wynonna and Waverly. It reminds me very much of Elsa and Anna.
I wish there was more storytelling about sisters that have no one but each other in TV art/entertainment. The personal significance of it for me is something I can’t quite explain since I never had a sister. I mean can you really miss something that you never had?
Why do sister relationships affect me so much? Why do I feel so deeply for sister relationship dynamics?
It’s a mystery to me. Perhaps I was meant to have a sister in another life or another Universe… possibly?
#wynonna earp#melanie scrofano#waverly earp#dom pc#frozen 1#frozen 2#elsa#idina menzel#anna#kristen bell#sister relationships#relationship dynamics
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One of the (many many) reasons I love Frozen so much is because of how much it modernises the Disney fairytale without completely throwing it over it's head either.
Like yes, it shits on the idea of love at first sight and how not to blindly give your hand to someone you barely know. But it also shows how there's nothing wrong with quickly clicking with someone and testing the waters of a relationship with them. And to the people who claim Anna getting with Kristoff "goes against the message of the movie", please, tell me you understand the difference between getting engaged and sharing a kiss...
It shows the importance of familial love, which is without a doubt THE main plot point of the (first) movie, without shitting on romance as a whole. Anna is never forced to choose between family and romance, her happy ending is being able to have both (this is also one of the reasons why I hate F2's ending, but this is a post praising F1, I don't have the mental energy to shit on F2 right now).
Also, I swear, if I have to hear one more person say "Anna chose Elsa over Kristoff" in the climax I'm going to scream. Anna chose Elsa's life over her own life by protecting Elsa instead of going to Kristoff for a true love's kiss.
Wheter that kiss would've worked or not is another discussion entirely, point is Anna assumed it would've worked, so she was totally aware she was giving up her chance to live to save Elsa. That is NOT the same as her "choosing Elsa over Kristoff" and looking at this scene like that is so insulting to Anna's sacrifice.
Either way, just give me more media about family AND romance, because too much media focused on family acts like you need to give up/not care about romance in other to achieve happy/healthy family dynamics.
#the only exceptions I've seen is already established married couples but I'm talking about actual growing blooming romances#(not to mention those are always side characters not the main characters so it still doesn't count)#disney frozen#frozen#princess anna#anna#queen elsa#elsa#arendelle sisters#kristoff bjorgman#kristoff#kristanna#frohana#disney#serena speaks
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Random Thought, please humor me.
SURPRISE: YUUSHA GAINS MAGIC (By absorbing the Magic around her & dealing with Overblots)! Even better, she doesn't need a Mage Stone to control it! What would Yuusha's Unique Magic be & how does she use it? How would Jamil react?
"Magic makes people feel too powerful. Too entitled."
"That is not what magic does. That's just your fear. Fear is what can't be trusted."
HELPPP anon your random thought sent me down into a rabbit hole and i was hyperfixated on this for at least a WEEK 😭
THANK YOU FOR THE ASK BTW I REALLY APPRECIATE IT I HAD SO MUCH FUN WITH THIS 💕💕💕
anyways i also had an agonizing realization that yuusha is somewhat twisted elsa/anna because she has:
braid in front ✅
light-colored hair streak ✅
love interest that used her for his schemes ✅
desire to connect with people bc of years of loneliness (and emotional instability) ✅
unresolved childhood trauma in general ✅
(and probably more idk, these are the ones that stand out to me at the moment)
i haven't thought about frozen for YEARS and somehow it's still haunting me.
i have a lot of mixed feelings about this realization in general but the reason i brought this up is because i ended up basing yuusha's unique magic on frozen (not the ice powers part, but more the emotions aspect since elsa's powers work based on her emotions) while also still having aspects of yuu's own personality on it.
(also I'm sorry in advance i keep on dropping random lore about yuu and jamil's dynamic that only makes sense to myself hndsfhdsj)
I'm your friend. You don't have to hide. SHOW YOURSELF.
"Show Yourself" forces the target to say what's actually on their mind as long as she touches them. Since she's not particularly powerful and skilled with her own unique magic in the beginning, it's limited to skin-to-skin contact, and it only lasts for as long as she's touching her target.
If Yuu trained it more, it doesn't have to be skin-to-skin, just as long as she makes some kind of physical contact with her target; and it could last for as long as she wants even if she is no longer making physical contact. (But the longer she keeps it up, the more blot accumulates.) Yuusha would mostly just use her unique magic to mess with people. It'll only be rare that she chooses to use it for something serious.
To add more onto how Jamil would react to these magic shenanigans: They've both agreed on not using their unique magic on each other. To do so would be a breach of trust. (Of course there would be special exceptions but generally that's their agreement.) And since Jamil is still a scheming prick (affectionate), her "Show Yourself" unique magic would be useful. Plus, Yuu would not be against using her unique magic 99% of the time since she is also aware of the usefulness of her ability. Jamil would insist on helping Yuu out on how to use her magic because there was no way she'd get the hang of it immediately. And he knows she would refuse to ask any other (capable) magician for help.
An alternate idea that I scrapped was "Let It Go" where it's essentially Yuu telling her target to let go of their (usually negative) emotions. But those feelings can't just disappear so Yuu basically absorbs them so now it's her burden to carry instead. I scrapped it because I can't settle on how it works. (But it still had angst potential so I couldn't help but draw a bit about it anyway.)
(extra rambling below about yuusha overblot thoughts if anyone's interested hdlfhjgj)
this is a brief tangent from the original question because i also thought, "hey what if she overblotted, wouldn't that be fun"
i could see the overblot going in either two ways:
yuu accidentally hurts grim (or another friend) with her magic. she’s so distraught thinking that even with magic she can't protect those who are dear to her. and so during the overblot she will not actively try to hurt anyone but instead exhausting her magic reserves in an intentional attempt at self-destruction. (yes i also see the frozen parallels shhhh)
OR
something happens that was simply THE LAST STRAW. now she’s too pissed at everyone that she no longer cares about what happens to her or anyone else, going on a destructive rampage. which can also be considered an intentional attempt at self-destruction.
either way, basically, if she can’t go home she’s just going to take herself out and/or the school instead. the girl is not okay.
(there's actually nothing good she can home to, but she's convinced she'll be happy again if she returns. but she doesn't know that because she can't remember shit about her home. that's a separate lore dump post hgdsjfkld)
also the blot monster behind her would look something like marshmallow (elsa's snow monster from frozen) :)
(i also used to have a similar idea for yuusha. i planned to have her be immune to magic *because* she was absorbing it and she didn't realize. leading to an inevitable overblot) (but i scrapped it because yuusha became my victim for jamil x yuu stuff) (like if i can't have the excuse to have jamil use snake whisper on yuu then what is the point)
#this also kinda gave me war flashbacks to the rise of the brave tangled frozen dragons era 😭#i just didnt mean for yuusha to be similar to elsa/anna ajdklsj#i unfortunately fell victim to the obsession with elsa when frozen came out#i have different opinions of frozen now so that's why i have very mixed feelings#anyways style consistency#who is she and let me meet her PLEASE#[—✦ chatting#-✧ oc rambles#-✧ my art#-✧ comic#twst art#twst#twisted wonderland#jamil viper#twst oc x canon#jamil x yuu#twst yuu#twst yuusona#(💜) yuusha#(💜) curry noodles#-✦—]
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And we’re back folks! With another batch of rough fan art featuring Queen Anna and powerless Elsa this time.
For this design for Anna, I noticed another post that some people didn’t feel that her regal gown from the epilogue in Frozen 2 really fit her style, so I tried to emulate the colors and rosemaling from her coronation dress in the first movie, while also keeping a sense of maturity in this look having grown into this role. She’s not as impulsive or fiesty anymore, now tempered with responsibilities but still conveys her warmth and compassion as a competent ruler. Still, in comparison with her sister, she is not without her insecurities, as running a country doesn’t come without a fair amount of stress, which she hides from Elsa out of fear of not being good enough.
Now as for Elsa losing her powers, I’m sure a lot of people have hypothesized about if she had an adversesary that could wield fire powers. I have made concept art of that before in the past, but I want to try and draw that digitally first before I show you guys. In this instance, I would imagine that Elsa has faced off against this adversary, and lost, and that enemy has weakened her powers to a state where she is unable to manipulate snow and ice and thus it dramatically alters her appearance. Her hair turns brown, like her mother’s, the clothes that she fashioned for herself would lose their icy appearance and revert to normal civilian clothes (or at worst, disappear, making for an awkward scenario), and the loss makes her weak and sick. She would have to learn how to rehabilitate herself for the next round in the story, but this change would almost certainly traumatize her since she’s just learned how to accept herself and her powers.
Lastly, with my idea for Hans to return in this story, I can’t imagine that Anna would be all that enthusiastic about seeing him again. My idea is that he has some insider information about the adversary that they’re facing in the story, whether it be the Southern Isles, or this fire wielding villain that Elsa loses against, they somehow have to rely on him for assistance. His motivations could be entirely selfish, “merely an enemy of my enemy is my friend situation” and he only agrees to help to stick it to this adversary (probably the Southern Isles). Nonetheless, it would make for some interesting dialogue and dynamics to see how they would react to each other.
Now, like I said, this is all hypothetical. This is more fanfiction and fanart than anything else, you don’t have to agree with it, but this is just a fun exercise in thinking what could happen in the next two movies. I hope you enjoy what I’ve done. Kristoff is coming up next!
#helsa#frozen#frozen 2#prince hans#disney#queen elsa#artists on tumblr#queen anna#princess anna#powerless!elsa#disneys frozen#frozen 3#frozen 4#elsa of arendelle#hans westergaard#concept art#fan art
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• deadly dynamic • A KISS OF UNTRUE LOVE • dark!Elsa • F1 canon divergent • @helsaweenfun
"With this, you shall kill my Father." Elsa runs her slender pale fingers over the blade of his plain sword, and it turns shining frosty blue. The winter magic he always feared and admired. "When you're done with him, you can deal with the King of the Isles, it's yours."
Hans sheathed the magical sword, grateful to the exiled sorceress, the one true queen of his choosing. The ice diadem in her white locks glistens in the blue twilight.
"And this..." She brings her face closer to his, their lips almost touching, and Hans can see frozen crystals of tears on her colourless eyelashes, "You will pass this to my dear sister, the false queen of Arendelle." And she kisses him. Hans responds with fervour, but when they break their embrace, he feels cold on his bluish lips.
"Since you love Anna not, this cursed kiss will plunge the impostor, Father's beloved daughter, into the sleep of permafrost. Go, Hans, and kiss Anna. Bring their demise."
"Why don't you take revenge on them yourself? You are so powerful, Elsa." This isn't the first time he's asked this, but the first time so thoughtfully.
Elsa pauses at first, her still living heart aches, but then she smirks carelessly. "I just love it when you do...things for me, my prince. Go. I'll be waiting for you."
Hans nods, a picture of both honour and treason, and leaves the Ice Palace. Elsa goes out onto the balcony to see him off. It's night, a cold snowy night. She's already jealous, she's always afraid, she still feels.
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Two new "Frozen" cards in "Lorcana": Sven and Anna as a sorceress's apprentice.
Honestly, I didn't like this Anna card, I'm very loyal to the dynamic: Anna the warrior and Elsa the sorceress. Some Disney games got around this by giving Anna magical weapons to give her powers rather than some pure kind of magic, but Anna with powers of her own? I'm really not a fan of the idea (and I hope it's never even considered in canon), but anyway, it's a card game and they already gave us the beautiful Anna Warrior Queen, so they're forgiven for giving us Anna the Apprentice of Sorcerer.
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These things I wish to see in F3/F4
- Olaf entering a new phase. I saw someone suggesting an emo phase. As someone who's alternative irl, I don't usually like when subcultures are used as a joke but I find this oke could be hilarous
-Oaken, that man's iconic, give him screentime
-How the old Northuldra reconnect with the spirits and how the young Northuldra embrace them (I'm really attached to them, that's be sad and a wasted potential if they were left out)
-More of Yelena and Mattias's beef. Characters arguing like an old married couple is my fav dynamic (I want those two as friends though)
-When the plot point hit, Olaf yelled at Elsa "You said we were done with danger!" or smth similar
-Kristoff, Honeymaren and Ryder being besties, the boys can't shut up about reindeer and Honeymaren is tired of them (petition for us to start calling them 'The deer trio')
- Anna, Elsa and Kristoff having a For The First in Forever/Some Things Never Change typa song about their new lives. With Elsa being so happy and comfortable in the forest while Anna and Kristoff are quite exhausted by the leading. I like to imagine the song ending with Anna wondering how Elsa managed to do all of that while still looking good
- More Agduna frozen memories
- The trolls and Arendelle's dignitaries arguing over rather their wedding should be celebrated in trolls' or Arendelle's traditions/Their wedding being a mix of both
-To know how the fuck was/were the fifth spirits before the sisters
-What exact roles Elsa and Anna have as the fifth spirit (yes Anna bc they did mention they are a bridge, Elsa isn't alone on that)
- The Earth giants playing with Bruni and children
- SPRING SETTING
- Elsa and Honeymaren interacting. I'm not necessary asking for their canonization. This ship is my hyperfixation but I don't place my expectations too high. So if we can at least have new material for fanarts and fanfictions, I'd be glad because I am STARVING
- Honeymaren's abs (of course I was gonna bring them up)
#frozen 3#frozen#frozen 2#disney#disney frozen#d23 expo#frozen elsa#kristanna#elsa and anna#yapping#agduna#arendelle sisters#northuldra#elsamaren#ryder nattura#queen anna#frozen 4#yelena#fan theories#honeymaren#bruni#olaf the snowman#kristoff#oaken#the deer trio
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ONCE UPON A TIME 4.10, Fall
#ouatedit#onceuponatimeedit#elsaedit#annaedit#once upon a time#ouat#elsa#anna#s4#4x10 fall#dynamic: anna elsa#event: rewatch 22
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my favorite variation of Hans's redemption will always be the one where he sacrifices himself for Elsa.
they had an "unpleasant experience" in which Hans came close to, well, killing Elsa (antis' favorite argument, okay, I take it). yes, we can analyze this more deeply, find signals that he really "didn't want to" and that this was literally the only way they saw to stop winter, etc (up to Elsa's passive consent due to guilt over Anna's death, about which Hans in general did not lied), but... the fact remains that Hans came damn close to hacking Elsa down with his sword.
so I don't think we can be surprised by Elsa's reaction after all, yeah (however, I think it's more about how he hurt Anna).
I accept this for what I'm going to say next. you know, complicated relationships with the dynamics of "from enemies to lovers", "love/hate". we enjoy it.
and the hardest part of all this is that Elsa will never be able to let Hans get close enough. she won't be able to really trust him, knowing that he can manipulate and suspecting that Hans can always pursue personal goals. she has a right to be suspicious after all.
what can fix the situation? that this man would risk his own life for Elsa's survival, her life and safety. consciously, at the risk of dying and ready to accept it. because Hans, who begins to develop feelings for Elsa, will be ready to act in accordance with these feelings. but something else: Hans, who begins to develop feelings for Elsa, will himself be burdened by past actions "to kill Elsa, stop winter, become a hero and a king."
I like the poetry of it, the symbolism and how it's really redeeming: yes, in the past he came close to killing Elsa, but now he's gone so far from it that he's literally ready to die for her.
in this scenario, Elsa herself gets rid of the suspicions that are rooted inside her, because when Hans is ready to die for her, it really changes perceptions and creates a "new level".
you know, Anna too can change her extremely negative attitude and still accept Helsa relationship. of course, it's difficult when your sister, the closest person, develops her own dynamic with your ex, who manipulated you and traumatized you, and from whom you shielded her with your body in the past... however, if Anna sees that Hans almost died for Elsa, I think she will be able to accept it.
honestly, when it comes to Helsa, the fact that Hans is her ex is the last thing she'll care about (she's found her "true love," after all). she will be worried that Hans could potentially use Elsa and harm Elsa. but if she sees that Hans is really willing to sacrifice himself for Elsa... well, I'm not talking about absolute forgiveness on Anna's part (and Anna has every right not to give him forgiveness after he treated her), but acceptance in such a scenario takes place. Elsa is her top priority, after all.
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The Elsanna ship, ten years later...
When I think about the golden days of the Elsanna ship (circa 2013-2015), two images come to mind – this one…
…and this one…
Both pieces of fanart were created to celebrate the legalization of gay marriage nationwide in the US in June 2015 – and both encapsulate the youthful energy, the innocence, the idealism of Elsanna shippers at the time. They might seem silly now to some people, but only because they are so earnest. There is an achingly earnest sincerity here because the Elsanna-shipping community was made up of a bunch of young, queer Disney fans.
The ship wasn’t created by a bunch of creeps who wanted to “disregard or misunderstand the message of the film.”
The ship was created by a group of young wlw, young lesbians, young queer folks, who were drawn to the film because of its themes of self-acceptance and self-understanding (because they UNDERSTOOD the message of the film.) And they were drawn to the sisters’ bond because, in some way, it resonated with them – a connection between two people that was based on coming to an understanding of shared trauma and pain, a connection rooted in compassion for someone othered by society.
Frozen came out in 2013. Korrasami wouldn’t be canon for a while yet, things like Lumity and Catradora weren’t even a dream, and these naive, earnest, heartfelt kids wanted to see something that reflected themselves so much that they built a ship from the ground up.
I have seen people in recent years express bewilderment about why the Elsanna ship came into being, saying things like, “Why does this ship exist? Elsa and Anna aren’t in love; they’re sisters.” Which… duh. Obviously, they are not in love. Obviously, they are sisters. Such an attempt to say, “Checkmate, creeps!” ignores why ships come into existence in the first place. Non-canon ships emerge because there are aspects of two particular characters that the audience can relate to or project a part of themselves upon/see themselves in; and because there are elements of these characters’ dynamic/interactions that the audience can project upon/see themselves in.
And with Elsa and Anna’s dynamic together and connection throughout the film? There was A LOT that a young queer audience latched onto - NOT because these shippers felt the film was secretly espousing incest subtext, but because the characters were created to be broadly relatable to anyone with a difficult home life, anyone who felt isolated and ostracized from society, and so their narrative together lent itself to a queer reading.
Consider: on the one hand, there is Elsa – a character who exploded across the popular consciousness because so many people related to her individual story, many of them queer young people. Isolated for who she was, taught to repress her identity and her emotions, forced to conform to a society that could harm her. There hardly needs to be any more ink spilled on why Elsa struck such a chord with queer viewers – and the queer viewers who helped to shape the Elsanna ship were among the people who fell in love with her as much as anyone.
On the other hand, there is Anna. Anna’s story is different from Elsa’s, but bears many of the same marks of trauma. Anna is forced to live in a world where the rules feels arbitrary and uncaring, where nothing makes sense but no one will tell her why. Not her sister, who has been taught that she must shut Anna out. Not her parents, the authorities of the society she lives in who put the rules in place. Like many queer young people, Anna is forced to navigate a world where the rules are arbitrary and cruel. And, like her sister, she begins to internalize that pain. “What did I ever do to you?” she cries to Elsa at the coronation because, without the full context, she can’t rule out that this might be her fault – or at least, that societal forces around her tell her that this is her fault even when she did nothing.
There was so much in each character individually that queer young people resonated with.
When you factor in that their connection is something that the powers that be within the film attempt to forbid, that their connection is something that is at first treated as something that needs to be suppressed but that ultimately proves to be a positive force for both of them, then… yeah, it becomes clearer why so many queer young people aching to connect with something would see themselves in that relationship.
I know of several prominent artists on this site who got their start in the Elsanna fandom, or who were happy to take part in the ship because they saw the way other queer young people connected with it (signatures blotted out to prevent potential harassment of artists over decade-old art):
People don’t like to remember it, but ten years ago, there were wlw fandom blogs on here that would casually make or reblog Elsanna art – not because they had some secret insidious agenda – but because the ship connected with them on an emotional level or because they understood why it did with others:
And there were shippers of other queer ships reaching out:
The Elsanna fandom of 2013-15 was a reflection of a group of queer young people (primarily wlw) – a reflection of their passion, their dedication, their craftsmanship, their creativity, and their longing to be seen. It was a group of queer young people using the pieces that a film they loved gave them to create something of their own, from their hearts, for themselves.
Create something of their own with their own spirit and hopes, reflecting their own aspirations and fears and dreams for the future.
And sure, people now can say, “That’s disgusting! How could anyone do that?” In 2020, someone called out a lovely person on here because she shipped Elsanna nearly a decade ago (even though she HAD LONG SINCE DELETED ALL EA CONTENT FROM HER BLOG, even!):
This callout is dishonest. It claims that the individual “thinks shipping them is cute” even though, when this was written, the person had not shipped Elsanna in years. It also claims Elsanna is p/*do/ph/ilic when it is not. (It is incest, obviously, and that is inherently problematic.) It also tries to make a connection between the person wanting queer rep and shipping an inherently problematic ship, when those things do not correlate at all. You can ship something and never want it to be canon. You can ship something and not want it to be “representation” – and that’s what being in the Elsanna fandom of 2013-15 was like.
People didn’t want it to be canon. They didn’t want it to be “representation.” Everyone already knows that incest is wrong. People don’t have to ship something as a crusade for representation. But people DID ship it because they saw something of themselves in the ship – and they saw the opportunity to project something of themselves (their queerness, their sense of being othered and isolated by their families, etc.) onto characters that they loved. The ship provided the opportunity for these young people to explore their senses of self and explore their identities.
And sure, as I’ve said in the past, perhaps that wasn’t ideal – the fact that these young folks were starving for anything that was like them and so had to make a feast from whatever they had available. But I find something BEAUTIFUL in the fact that so many people were able to come together and create such beautiful things because Elsanna inspired them. I know people who met their partners, met their wives, through this ship. I’ve seen firsthand the positive influence it has had.
Like Elsa on the North Mountain, we felt isolated, we were figuring ourselves out. And we built wonders with what was inside of us. The beauty of some of the art in this ship is akin to the beauty of Elsa’s ice palace. The writing I have seen in this ship can be as elegant as any elegantly-sculpted spire Elsa fashioned through her own magic and her own will.
This ship was ours, is ours.
We made it for ourselves, to reflect ourselves and our identities and share aspects of those identities with others, the same way people came to ship Elsamaren when F2 came out. It may have been new faces and a new ship, but it was part of the same idea, just for a different time.
And when you look at the thousands of pieces of Elsanna fanfiction that have been written, and the thousands of pieces of fanart (especially the beautifully diverse styles of early Elsanna fanart) – you don’t get so many people expounding their passion and creativity on something unless it means something to them, and Elsanna meant something to so many people. Mattered to them. Look at the excitement and joy in people’s words in the early days of the fandom if you don’t believe me.
And I think that’s beautiful.
EDIT: I’ve made another post about this, but I want to add to this post that I regret saying things like “maybe that wasn’t ideal” when I wrote it. It WAS ideal because it was a beautiful to see us create a space for ourselves.
And it STILL IS beautiful. It CONTINUES to be beautiful. The fandom still exists and I’m glad that it still exists because it still brings such beautiful things into the world.
Elsanna isn’t just a placeholder until a better, more palatable ship comes along. Elsanna is beautiful in its own right.
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Okay! After watching Once Upon A Studio the 100th time, I'm just gonna say it!
Disney! CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THIS SHORT BE A SHOW OR A SHORT SERIES!
Like you have all of these characters both 3D and 2D, and I know darn well that you guys know that this short is a huge success, jump on that train!
You know what! I'm just gonna put down how this show would be, and my exceptions and nots
(Exception 1 - The only other characters that would appear outside of WDAS would be characters from DisneyToon Studios, so like characters from the sequels, A Goofy Movie, Ducktales! Treasure of the lost lamp, and the Tinkerbell characters. I still would not include Pixar, Marvel, Muppets, Star Wars, and etc, that would be more if Disney wants to do a full on House Of Mouse sequel, but if it's a spiritual successor, then this would be at the studio
(Exception 2 - However, some characters from those said IP's can be mentioned as like a cameo or name mention, just because they don't appear, doesn't mean they can't be mentioned)
Okay, now for how the show/short series plays out
(The show/short series would take place at the Walt Disney Animation Studio in Burbank, since I think that's where the short took place.)
(When everyone leaves, that's when the characters come out, and thus, whatever plot takes place, that's when the episode/short begins)
(Characters can appear on the sidelines, making sure that it adds character and life into this, rather it be them just talking and walking, grabbing some food, or just causing mischief)
Now for some ideas for episodes
(A New Rabbit - Oswald notices that he is the odd one out in the huge group, so with the help of Mickey and his pals, they try to give the Lucky Rabbit a makeover only both Walt and the fans would love. This would be the Epic Mickey design that we all love, and Frank Welker would return to voice the rabbit once more!)
(A Royal Night Out - Tiana plans a huge night for all of the Disney Princesses and Princes, and Asha feels worried that she might stick out in the group, since she is the newest princess in the studio lot. But over the course of the short/episode, we not only see her get comfortable around the princesses and princes (They would be such gentlemen to her), but also stuff that maybe the voice performers can ad-lib in, to make them feel more natural!)
(Father/Son Meeting - Goofy realizes how many Disney parents and children have either a father/son and or father/daughter dynamics, and so he plans out a huge evening where the pairs would get to know each other, and discuss the situations they were put through, Max would make his first appearance in nearly 20 years in this, helping his father, and also getting to know the rest of the other kids that also go through what Max dealt with in his films)
(These ideas are from @shellyswirlz I was given permission to share and give some disney touches to these!
(Puppy-Sitting) - Kristoff, Ryder, and Honeymaren are asked upon by Roger and Anita if they could take care of the puppies while they take Pongo and Perdita on their evening walk, to which the three say yes to (Because I feel like Kristoff would be a dog person for sure!) Cruella sees this as her opportunity to try and get the dogs again, but this time from different people. Over the course of the episode/short, the puppies get into some trouble, from either running around the animation building, to hiding in some of the shelves. This causes problems for both Kristoff, Ryder, Honeymaren, and even Cruella, who misses her chance every time. In the end, it's Anna, Elsa, and even Olaf who would help wrangle the puppies back together again, and just in time before Roger and Anita get back. Cruella would be upset that she didn't manage to snag any of the puppies, but her anger would instantly disappear when she sees the other animals, and soon begins hatching plans for that
(Tinkering About) - Some of the Disney kids are drawing some of their favorite characters from their favorite shows and films, and Tinker Bell watches from afar, thinking of a fun, yet mischievous plan. Once the children leave to play outside, Tinker Bell uses her magic to make the drawings come to life, and soon, they begin to cause mischief around the building and even the studio. For the doodles, this would be the only time characters outside of WDAS would make their cameo appearances (Such as Sulley, Kermit and Gonzo, Grogu, and etc). Mickey and Oswald notice the weird drawing creations, and soon begin to place them back into the paper they came from. They soon figure out that Tinker Bell is behind the tinkering, and soon, Peter Pan manages to stop her before she could make anything else pop out. She realizes her mistakes, and apologizes, Peter Pan, being the only one that can understand her, accepts it, but he tells her not to do it again, or else she wouldn't be allowed to be with him.
(A Caballero Reunion!) - Donald is overjoyed once more to see his pals Jose and Panchito again! Jose comes up with the idea of performing for the whole group, like they did back in the beginning when they first performed. Donald and Panchito agree, and soon throughout the episode, we see them getting ready, reminiscing on the days they first interacted, and even recalling some of their favorite moments from their film. Towards the end, they would have a huge performance, but soon realize that some of their instruments have become worn out from years of not being used. But soon some of the other Disney characters would join in to help, and soon, the Three Caballeros would sing their iconic song, alongside the rest of the Disney crew!
Those are what I have so far, but please, if anyone has any ideas/scenarios/and HC's for this, either tag this post, repost and add your share, and or comment down below!
(Cricket In A Lamp) - Jiminy Cricket rushes to Pinocchio's side, once again after accidentally oversleeping once more, but just as he's about to get to his side, he falls into Genie's lamp. Pinocchio is beside Aladdin, learning about what he, Jasmine, and the others went through in their film, and tells him that he's lucky to have The Genie by his side. The Genie soon appears, and decides to get some rest, but when he tries to get into his lamp, he isn't able to. Aladdin thinks this is a joke, but soon, they hear Jiminy's voice coming from the lamp! The three soon try to figure out how to get him out, considering it's a magic lamp, and messing with it can cause trouble. After a few different tactics and even some characters making their honorary cameos, it seems like it's hopeless, until some of the smaller characters decide to help out, and ask if they can be lowered in, so they can grab Jiminy out (I'm thinking it might be Bernard, Bianca, and the rest of the other small Disney characters). After some time, they managed to get Jiminy out, and of course Pinocchio was overjoyed to see him safe and sound. Genie apologizes for the lamp trouble, to which Jiminy cuts in, saying he fell in on accident, and that he should be more careful in where he's running to.
(I'm Late! I'm Late! For A Very Important Dinner Party!) - Mickey and Minnie decide to plan a big dinner party for the newcomer Asha, and soon get the help from some of the Disney Characters to deliver the invitations to the party. Once night falls, everyone arrives on time, except for one! The White Rabbit! He notices that the time on his watch is all wrong, and he quickly hurries to the dinner party. This episode would mostly be shenanigans and even ad-libbed stuff from characters old and new, and of course The White Rabbit dealing with his troubles as well! In the end, he makes it towards the end of the party, and enjoys the last few minutes with those that care about him
(This Is Dedicated To The Toon I Love!) - For the first time in nearly 25 years, Sylvia makes her return appearance in this episode/short. Goofy and Horace write love letters to Sylvia and Clarabelle. But when Horace accidentally leaves his name out of his letter, Clarabelle thinks that it's from Horace, wanting to see if they can rekindle their relationship. At first she is ecstatic, but then realizes that he couldn't possibly be in love with someone like her, and soon, she dismisses the first idea, and thinks who would have a crush on her. Shenanigans would pursue, with her going around the studio lot, basically seeing who is catching her eye. After hours on end, Clarabelle breaks down, seeing that there wasn't any signs that someone loved her on the lot, and she would never find out who wrote her the letter, Horace, Goofy, and Sylvia find her, and Horace bashfully admits that he wrote the letter to her, but he forgot to place his name down. Clarabelle becomes overjoyed, and the two share a kiss. Goofy is happy to see his long-time friends get together once more, and decides to have a double date with him and Sylvia, and Clarabelle and Horace!
@rikareena @silliesbillies @imaginationinstitutes
#once upon a studio#show idea#what if once upon a studio had a show/short series#disney#disney100#spirtual successor#house of mouse but modern disney
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Once Upon a Studio Frozen!!!! | Analysis
I'm screaminggg! The teaser trailer for the ' Once Upon a Studio' short looks so amazing, especially with the glimpse of Elsa, Anna and Hans! Okay I knew Elsa and Anna (and Olaf too of course) were gonna be in this but Hans to make even a cameo, I did not expect. It didn't cross my mind at all!
“Do you think all the villains will show up? - Anna
“Not all.” - Elsa [Freezes Hans in the frame]
Haha I love this! This definitely is a hint to something. I mean is it really just a coincidence that Hans makes another cameo and that too with Elsa showing her "despise" for him? I think not! Disney clearly is aware some of us want Hans back and as redeemed, so then why bring him back each time as a reminder of his crimes and how much he's despised by Frohana, especially Elsa? Well my friends, this is deliberate. They want the love - hate relationship dynamic between them because it is the most obvious but perfect dynamic between them. I'm sure some of you have seen movies where this dynamic plays out between couples and it's loved by some so why not use that for Elsa and Hans? I mean think about it, why would they keep showing Elsa showing Hans more hate than Anna has ever seen be showing? Of course Hans actions to Anna, leaving her to die with a frozen heart, would have got to Elsa personally and Elsa can't take him killing her personally because she wanted to die but then you say "it's been more than 3 years, if Anna's gotten over it, why can't Elsa?". Well sometimes when you don't understand why you hate someone more than necessary, it's because it means something else - in particular love.
So imagine if Hans does come back in Frozen 3 and whenever, however, he shows up to the sisters, Elsa would be the first one to make a movie and get her ice powers ready (just like she was when she was just about to attack Bruni), but Anna stops her because well obviously freezing him wouldn't be the right thing to do as it has been a while anyways. Just like how Kristoff was going to deal with Hans but Anna stopped him and punched him herself, though this time I don't think she'll punch him. I mean you would think it's Anna but I'm sure she's well over Hans and all the things he did (not saying she has forgiven him yet) but given the recent Elsa attacks on Hans (in Frozen Fever and now, though non cannon, in the 'Once Upon a Studio' short).
But yeah point being, with all the Elsa Hans content going on, I have a feeling Disney's going for the love hate dynamic between Elsa and Hans. A bond that is urns from hate to love. I have a whole long post, about how Hans could be redeemed and why they need each other, coming up and another one on Hans' role as in 'The Snow Queen'.
I'm secretly hoping for Hans to escape that ice and come out through a different frame but I don't think it'll happen - but then again you never know! 🫣
#disney frozen#frozen#frozen 2#frozen 3#elsa#anna#disney#elsa and anna#hans#elsa of arendelle#anna of arendelle#prince hans of the southern isles#prince hans#helsa#helsa hints#omce upon a studio#a decade of Frozen#Disney 100
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