#dsmp drama

[themxnac3]

Im actively giggling I live for this 2020 drama anyways basically irl disc war 2.0 HEHEHEAHAHAHSHJDJDKRJR im losing my fucking shit why can’t these bastards keep shit in private (not you Tommy you have every right to speak about all the hurtful shit hes done to you.)

[sherbert-the-plant]

crazy ass behaviour every time that man talks

the issue that provoked this stream needing to be made was that dream used a slur and needed to address it, instead he went live for 3 hours adressing the following topics.

-quackity

-how tommy is on his knees for quackity

- how tommy is a fake friend and hates quackity

-trump and how he’s a trumpie

-tommy was close with bad people like logan paul and w*lbur when he was 16 so he must be bad cause people cant change

-he’s not weird for messaging tommy’s mom and that’s totally normal

-quackity

-he’s not gay

-aimsey is an evil mastermind and is trying to get dream and george cancelled

-he’s an evil racist pedophile who made everyone sign ndas (that’s what everyone wants him to be apparently)

-quackity

-jack is cheating on ellie (rumor has it)

-there’s rumors about tubbo but he can’t say them

-adhd and autism and how he’s not to blame because of that

-harry is an idiot and only hates him because he quote tweeted him four years ago

-quackity

-people were sharing porn with minors in his discord but it’s okay because they asked everyone to not treat them differently

-actually everything is the fans fault and they’re the ones who ruined everyone’s friendship and he would be best friends with quackity if it wasn’t for the fans

-tommy is manipulating everyone and is actually evil but no he’s not he’s not a bad guy he’s just the worst

things he didn’t address:

-the r slur

[qqquib]

[kikidoesthings]

ex dsmp fans rn:

[rainy-day-revelry]

As many people have mentioned, Dream is very good about framing things to make himself sound right and other people sound reasonable. But not a single video or post he has made so far can convince me that he is doing this with good intentions, because of the way he speaks towards everyone else involved and those he dragged in.

Now I mainly picked up on this with Tubbo and Tommy, but there are hints of it towards his viewers too: he speaks to us all like we’re children. The way a parent talks to a child they’re trying to gently reprimand, or the way a teacher talks about a subject in class. He speaks like we would never be able to come to these conclusions without his help and that he needs to guide us through it all or we’d get lost in the sea of information. And sure, plenty of his viewer base are kids, but the majority of people who would be watching this drama are fans from the Dream SMP era who knows all these people and remembers when they all used to talk and hang out. We may have been kids back then, but it’s coming up on half a decade since that server began; we’re not kids anymore. I myself started watching the DSMP when I was a underclassman in high school, I’m in college now. All the people he called the R-slur, the people who were offended and wanted an apology that he took days to properly deliver, most of us are adults. We can form our own conclusions, and we’re not an amorphous blob of opinions and views, we’re our own people.

This is especially bad when talking about it to Clingyduo, especially Tubbo. In his 3 hour stream he continually talks about Tubbo being misguided, and despite saying he has great respect for Tubbo and his opinions he skips context and actual criticism multiple times or, as Tubbo mentions, tunnel visions on one part of the criticism he can target and tosses the rest out with it when he’s done. He doesn’t give two shits about what Tubbo says unless it’s something he can use against the people criticizing him to make them sound disingenuous. With Tommy it’s worse, because when he’s not villainizing him beyond belief he’s using that condescending tone to talk about how proud he is and how he thought Tommy was special, which explains why Tommy felt so much pressure from him and like he owed him his success, or at least that Dream thought as much. He holds his approval over his head, like an abusive parent who just spent hours screaming in your face about how much of a disappointment you are before telling them “Of course I still love you.” It has the underlying tone of “you’ll make up for this slight, won’t you?”

And don’t even get me started about the DMs to both Tommy and Sarah. It’s fine to explain your feelings, but you’re not explaining them, you are blaming these feelings and reactions on them and telling them “You are the reason I’ve been suffering, it’s your fault for all of these horrible things that other people have been doing to me.” That’s not explaining your feelings, that’s guilt tripping and expecting an apology. That’s how long texts like that come across, that you don’t want the other person to be able to interject, you don’t want to make this a conversation, you want to drop your feelings and leave them to clean up the mess.

Dream’s a manipulative jerk, that’s all this has proved to me.

[aggrorat]

I can almost garentee he specifically used the R slur just to get people talking about his irrelevant ass again

do you guys think dream has a thing for shooting himself in the foot

[spliced-dice]

No, Dream, we don't hate you for playing your character.

We're just learning why c!Dream was so well-written.

[very-annoyed-crow]

Comparing Tommy's response video to dream's stream is like day and night. Tommy they could never make me hate you. Dream needs to go touch grass.

[strawberrykoi01]

Literally every ex dsmp member to dream recently

[cielcreations]

Said this on twt, I'll say it here:

As someone who is neurodivergent, I hate people using the "Well I'm neurodivergent, so I can say it."

No. Fuck that.

If you are using the word as it's intended purpose, you are using it as a slur. It doesn't matter if you are part of the group who can say it.

If you are using the word as a slur, you are saying a slur. End of discussion. You are not reclaiming it, you are using the slur to hurt people, which was why it was made.

Dream's upset because he got called out for using a slur as a slur. Tough shit. Don't use fucking slurs.

[nitemurr]

GUYS WHY DID I WAKE TO TO A FUCKING DREAM LIVE STREAM WHAT???? JESUS CHRIST THIS GUY NEVER STOPS

GUYS WHY DID I WAKE UP TO DREAMSMP DRAMA ON TWITTER WHAT YEAR IS THIS?????

WHY IS DREAM CALLING TOMMY SLURS???

[perosp3ro]

TOMMY ADVERTISING AT THE END OF HIS VIDEO IS THE FUNNIEST THING EVER

[dragon-flies-72]

Being an ex-dsmp member these past few days have been bat shit insane.

(And I was so certain this year was gonna be good. This is not what we meant when we said bring 2020 back. The fact that he hasn't even addressed the the main issue in his 3 hour stream is insane, I'm so glad I stuck with Phil this entire time.)

[qqquib]

watching this all happen (dream situation) makes it really obvious that dream is projecting onto tommy. hear me out here, he’s saying what he thinks tommy is doing or feeling (mainly here talking about the QSMP and the skit tommy made, saying he did it just for money or just to be away from “dream’s losing side”). it just makes me think that it’s something DREAM would do, which is why he thinks tommy is doing it.

idk! just a thought.

stand on business tommy, i too can’t imagine treating a 16 year old like that at my age now.

[wogglefroggie]

This green mf loves a straw man huh. This is at least twice when he's taken accusations made against him and repeated them in the most mocking way possible. "tOmmYiNnIt, yOuR rAcIsT beHAvIoUr bEhiNd tHe sCenEs" like what are you trying to prove?? what is your point?? I actually just want to know what the fuck are you trying to accomplish

[carpenoctem07]

I think what’s even more telling about Tommy and Dream situation is that almost everybody and their parents came to defend tommy (perhaps not defended him but are on his side) and that has been the case for quite a while now, even before the recent situation.

And meanwhile Dream closest friends - that live with him - haven’t said a single thing yet to defend him.

That kind of speak for itself, doesn’t it?

I just hope for Tommy and cie to finally have some peace and that they can heal from that cursed SMP.

P.s : Btw they shouldn’t defend him, what he did is bad asf and is in no way reclaiming a slur. I’m just trying to say that nobody, no even his besties are in his corner.