#mcyt drama

[frankgenloss]

dream is doing a weird thing where instead of just going after tommy, hes going after tommy and all of tommy's friends as one unit, to the point where he believes that pulling up receipts against jack is equivalent to pulling up receipts against tommy. and i think it has to do with how dream and his own friends function as one singular "dream team" who share their content and branding together, and hes assuming that tommy's friend group acts the same way with tommy as its head. except thats literally not the case. aside from occasional appearances from jack, most of the current standup comedy that tommy is doing is solo. his friends are just regular friends that he hangs out with. but its like dream cant comprehend the idea of having friends outside of content creation reasons, so hes attacking all of them (including aimsey who did nothing wrong) as part of tommy's "team", which is confusing the fuck out of everyone else because i dont think any of them has ever thought of tommy as their boss. in fact, im pretty sure tommy gets made fun of the most in their friend group. but dream doesnt realize that because hes stuck in content creator branding mode. its honestly sad to see

[rainbowbutterfrosting]

I was playing ace attorney last night and had a realization of my true power. So here's some of the dream situation in ace attorney format lmao

PLEASE DON'T LET THIS FLOP I SPENT SOOOO LONG ON IT

Note:

This isn't meant to be a proper summary, I'm just having fun sldfkj

If there's errors in the video then oopsie. I'm not gonna fix them just bc it would be too much effort. (Also, some things are worded weirdly bc I took them directly from videos. Primarily with stuff Dream's saying)

If there's errors in the transcript below, then let me know!! Though I haven't captioned everything in the video, just all the dialogue and some relevant sound effects.

In case anyone's curious, I used objection.lol

Transcription under cut, though I'd recommend watching the video for music and sound effects :]]]]] I just put it as an option for those who use screen readers, have bad connection, etc.

The second week of January 2025.

Chat, as the Gallery in Ace Attorney: GET HIS ASS. SLAY (LITERALLY) hi youtube

[Gavel slams]

Tubbo, as the Judge: Trial is now in Session for Dreamwastaken.

Tubbo: Dream, your opening statement, please.

Dream, as Cody Hackins: Tommyinnit posted a video yesterday that was titled "Dream" where he said a lot of stuff about me that isn't true.

[Hold it!]

Tommyinnit, as Phoenix Wright: Is it not true that you called my fanbase a slur?

Dream: Okay yeah, I did do that. I'm sorry. Genuinely.

Tommyinnit: Good. That was the absolute bare minimum.

Tommyinnit: But what about the misogyny? And how you and your friends treat women?

Dream: You have no examples.

[clever sound]

Dream: What if I just said you're racist and called it a day!

Tubbo: You called two different women "whores." Please amend your testimony.

Dream: Ah. Yeah, but it was to my friend. She wasn't upset at all!

[Objection!]

Ludwig, as older Phoenix Wright: Lmao

Dream: Okay but I meant it in the affectionate way!!! Like in the way I've called my cat a whore.

[Loud chatter from the Gallery]

Chat: SHANE DAWSON???? HE WHAT!!!!!!! [shuttering camera] I'm lost. Are they still fighting over discs?

Dream: Whatever, that's long enough ago. I did what I could about the situation.

Tommyinnit: My video wasn't just about that. It was also how you've been awful to me. It started with early Dream SMP when-

[Objection!]

Dream: Tommy, there's no way that you actually believe this. Saying I was terrible to you with no examples or anything- like- if you don't think that my intention was to help you, then what was my intention? Why did I do all of that?

[Loud chatter from the Gallery]

Chat: BRO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WONDERING TEXTBOOK MANIPULATION POGCHAMP Is this new lore for c!Dream?

[Hold it!]

Tommyinnit: You thrived off of holding my success over my head! You didn't treat me like an equal!

Dream: [Desk slam] I saw potential in you!

Tommyinnit: Yet you called me a promoter for saying I was working on my podcast, book, and comedy tour?

Dream: [Critical hit sound] So why is my content worth less value?! I'm sorry that I like coding and hanging out with my friends??

[Gavel slams]

Tubbo: No one was saying that?

Tubbo: You keep taking Tommy's clips out of context. Shouldn't you be more responsible with the clips you take since you're aware of the gravity of some of these claims?

Dream: [Surprised Sound] Because-

Dream: You're saying-

Dream: Uh-

Chat: [lots of periods and question marks]

[Disappointed sound]

Dream: That's a good point, Tubbo.

Dream: That's actually a really good point.

Tubbo: Thanks. :/

Jack Manifold, as Winston Payne: [while applause plays] !! Shut Up I'm Talking Patreon ONLY $7 !!

[bluish-orange]

alright has this been done yet / has anyone said it

[dontcryminecraft]

let's see...jaunary wrapped up:

starting either the 10th or 11th, we had about Goddamn Fucking Weeks of Dream v Tommy (let's be honest it was mostly Dream v Tubbo) which consisted of reddit threads, twitter posts, multi-hour streams from multiple parties which were then posted as vods, and two videos- one from tommy on the 12th, and then dream on the 13th. Tommy and Jack have also spoken about it a few times on their podcast, but mostly on their patreon episodes. The final say is generally considered to be the Tubbo & Dream call which was streamed on the 15th.

A short stint of drama happened on the 19th, with a video about stolen redstone builds on the dsmp. It specifically targeted Awesamdude. the video was based on a stream 2 months ago, and at that same time, another creator made a video also about pandora's box. With the video posted on the 19th, both these videos and that stream vod got new attention and sparked a new wave of discourse.

Also bringing back drama from 2 months ago in November, on the 30th or 31st Iskall posted a video titled "I'm Cancelled", which is his take on his exit from Hermitcraft back in November. Stress also exited from Hermitcraft at that time, and posted her support of him on that video, before apparently deleting her channel??? I looked her up and her channel is, like, gone. Not abandoned, not "left youtube"- GONE.

Tommy also posted a 'This is the Internet' video where he jokes about the dream situation, also on the 31st.

LETS RING IN THE NEW YEAR WITH A MINIMUM ESTIMATED TOTAL OF 10 DAYS OF MCYT DRAMA, A WHOLE THIRD OF THE MONTH!!!!!!11!!!!!1

[ettle]

NGL I wish the Hermits weren't taking Iskall's bait. Their statement was concise and had no extraneous details. They stated only that their were allegations, who resigned, and cleared up any rumors about minor grooming. They don't need to say anything else.

Iskall made his video to stir the pot, to pry the edges up until someone released more information. He is trying to drag this out into the light and cause drama. Every piece of information released is something that can be debated to death.

For example, the purposefully confusing "1.5 hours, timezones considered". Everyone has clung to that and used that to shed doubt on whether or not the Hermits acted "fairly". Hermits immediately started vague posting about it in outrage, letting slip small details.

That's what Iskall fucking wants.

IDK how many MCYT fans are privy to YouTube influencer drama, but this is the model for YouTube drama. 1) Drama happens behind the scenes, 2) One party makes an inflammatory video taking direct shots at another party with vague or incorrect details, 3) Ppl flock to that video and blog ab it, 4) Second party posts in response and reveals additional info 5) Ppl flock to that video and more people flock to the first video for context, then they all blog about it, 6) The revealed info is picked to death in a series of videos and blog posts, 7) Auxiliary drama channels make a mint "documenting" this drama, 8) Anyone who monetizes their videos makes a bajillion dollars.

It's extremely lucrative for those who know what they're doing. That's why Iskall is doing it.

[sapphire-innit]

It felt so scummy and manipulative to watch dream pull up all those old clips of Tommy thanking him and liking him when he was a kid.

Especially with how clearly that is NOT the case now, and how he said it made him feel small. He even asked awful ccs to stop bringing up old texts

It didn't feel like 'evidence', it felt like exactly what Tommy had accused him of -- like he was taking credit, like he was belittling him.

It was just very hard to watch, and did nothing to convince me he even understands what he did that was wrong

[prenzea]

will bbh finally get away from dream now

[archangeldeaky]

The Tommyinnit Dream drama is very confusing when you come in halfway. But I gotta say I’m invested.

Put your thoughts in the comments❤️

[jazforthesoul]

does tumblr know twitter user mangobaii posted in the year 2025

[pseudocyance]

i envy your non-dsmp life cyan. the dsmp ended in like 2021 or 2022 and the drama train is still going.

This turned into a bit of a rant/thought dump (I wasn't intending it to be) about my early days in the mcyt fandom

I guess cw for mentions of Wilbur, Dream and Iskall - I do not support any of these people

The funny thing is I really tried to get into it

I got into Hermitcraft early s7 and have been watching it live ever since. Maybe around the end of s7 I started wanting to consume more mcyt media and had heard about the DSMP a lot, so I decided to try it out

I begun by watching Wilbur's vods of his DSMP time. I loved his content so much I'm pretty sure I watched every video on his channel. But I couldn't get into the streams, they were just too long and I didn't like the non-edited stuff.

that may have saved me from getting even deeper into his content.

There was this channel that took vods from almost all of the DSMP members and edited them into 40ish minute episodes, I couldn't even get into that. It was... weird? Idk. Just not my thing

I tried SO HARD to get involved in the content cause I saw so many people enjoying it but never could and that probably saved me so much pain

I am so ashamed of my time as a Wilbur fan. I memorized the YLYL rules list, I loved all of his weird lore and acting. It's weird to feel betrayed by somebody you don't know, and now I'm reliving the same feelings as somebody who absolutely LOVED Iskall. I didn't post about him too much but I watched all of his s7 and he seemed so kind and interesting.

While I miss the times of blissful ignorance where I could enjoy creators without worrying they might be the next person to be revealed as a bad person, it was in fact ignorance.

On a different note, I'm not in the dsmp fandom and have never been but I AM a Tommyinnit fan so seeing him get harassed and bullied by people he used to look up to is really sucky to say the least

So yeah sorry for the thought dump! I just wanted to share my experiences.

[colon-tf-colon]

yk what, i had the opinion of gerg that he was just a little angsty guy that was outwardly mostly negative online because it got him views. and i respected that, even enjoyed 1 or 2 videos, until it got repetitive.

his most recent video, clowning on what, 10 year old "world records" which were done as publicity stunts is just such nothing burger.

then he tweeted negatively about tommy raising money for techno. like actually top 5 most brainless takes I've ever seen.

but who cares because SNIFF SNIFFERISH EXISTS !!

this is average harry's vid on a 4chan dating app. thats gerg. gg.

[babydrummer]

i dont like talking about mcyt drama i literally moved blogs just to get away from allat but its still FUCKING HILARIOUS how quickly dream went from decently well-liked to BATSHIT FUCKING INSANE

[insightfulllama]

Ok guys hit me. What is the current dream drama? I've been seeing shadows under the water but I'd like someone to explain, please.

[qthefan-they]

"LET THE TWINK TALK"

Adam McIntyre watching the Detective Dream stream

[blazingmicah-wc]

catching up on the dream situation and godd this bitch sucks. pulling up 5 year old clips of him saying "omg ur so cool" and then acting like it invalidates everything hes saying now like bitch!!!!! he was a fucking child!!!!!! he IS a child!!!!!! he grew up under you bro. that cunt is whining about "oh he needs receipts b4 he can say shit" when a] he's decided to make a narrative abt child labour with ZERO evidence and b] bro pulls up the logan paul dms as evidence that he's a two faced bitch which falls through immediately bc its already been pulled apart by the entire damn internet and then immediately begins to put his own spin on it not based on said evidence

[archangeldeaky]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

(The drama in this fandom. ^^^^)