#iskall situation

[sarcosmiiic]

PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND:

we, as fans, do not have a right to private information. anything shared with us on this is a privilege. please do not abuse it. the cc's could shut down and never talk about it if we overwhelm them.

also, please keep in mind that ONE HERMIT and THE ENTIRETY OF HERMITCRAFT are NOT THE SAME THING. the entire fandom is not 'ruined' or 'completely unsafe' because of the actions of one person.

PLEASE DO NOT ASSUME THAT THE OTHER HERMITS KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT WHATEVER'S GOING ON WITH ISKALL. this is not some big conspiracy, it's the consequences of one person's actions. they weren't hiding this from us, that's not how hermitcraft works, they truly didn't know. they probably knew as much as us about this, so making it an 'us against them' situation is immature and shortsighted.

ALSO, I AM BEGGING EVERYONE TO PLEASE NOT SENSATIONALIZE THIS. PLEASE DO NOT TURN HATING ISKALL INTO A MEME OR A JOKE.

mcyt'ers being revealed to be less-than-great people is not a rare thing, sadly, but i've seen it turned into a joke/meme/trend in other fandoms. this both minimalizes the actual people's/victims' struggles, makes the entire situation feel less serious than it is, especially to outsiders looking in, and makes everyone in the fandom look immature, petty, unable to take anything seriously, and genuinely harmful.

this server, fandom, and community are not dying, it is not ruined forever, this is one (major, i'm not trying to minimalize it) issue that we're currently dealing with. it will be okay. we will move on. this is not the beginning of the end. please calm down. i love this fandom, god bless all of you. <3

edit: doc has said on stream that we will likely get more information as time passes. like i said, this is a PRIVILEGE. we are not OWED information. please be grateful for what we're given, and POLITELY ask questions if you must. if a cc doesn't give you the answer you want, or doesn't answer at all, LEAVE THEM ALONE. THIS IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO HARASS PEOPLE. the hermits are likely just as stressed out as us, if not probably more so, so please keep that in mind when contacting them.

don't freak out, we'll be okay, this is not the end of the world, nor is it the end of Hermitcraft. we will be okay.

second edit: please remember that (at least as far as we know) ISKALL AND STRESS WERE NOT KICKED OR BANNED. THEY LEFT OF THEIR OWN VOLITION.

ALSO!!! VERY IMPORTANT!!!

WE. DO. NOT. KNOW. EXACTLY. WHAT. HAPPENED.

PLEASE DO NOT ASSUME ANYTHING SIMPLY BASED OFF OF OTHER MCYT'ERS PAST ACTIONS/SCANDALS. WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. WE MIGHT NOT EVER KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. WE NEED TO BE OKAY WITH THAT AND NOT DRAW OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

TWITTER LINKS TO VICTIM RESPONSES:

https://twitter.com/Kasszi_/status/1860670647946604985

https://twitter.com/emoslab_/status/1860697161245323559

[give-grian-rights]

Stressmonster101 has deleted all her social medias (apparently including her discord) and her second channel

False has confirmed on her discord that Stress had nothing to do with whatever happened.

If I was to create a discord for preserving her Hermitcraft videos as fast as possible, would anyone be interested in helping preserve it??

Even if it ends up that she supports Iskall and he did something really bad (WHICH WE DONT KNOW) we cannot lose another perspective of hermitcraft to history

[pearleisuma]

In light of Iskall and Stress’s decisions to leave Hermitcraft, I ask all the fan-content creators to PLEASE NOT DELETE STUFF ASSOCIATED WITH THEM RIGHT AWAY. ESPECIALLY FICS. We don’t know the full context, and plus, it’s a part of Hermitblr History. At the very least, if you don’t want to be associated with their content, orphan the works or repost them anonymously. Heck, send them to me, just so we have an archive! Hermitblr has been so good about separating the ccs from the characters, so let’s not let interpersonal conflicts between the ccs majorly affect our enjoyment of the characters, especially with what little we know.

Edit 1: Everyone please take care.

Edit 2: Due to the way asks with Media work, if you send me fanart of Stress or Iskall, I will make it a separate post so as to not include or reveal your user. Alternatively, I can make a Google Form? Lmk.

Edit 3: WE OFFICIALLY HAVE A GOOGLE SHEETS MASTERDOC!! I’m working on formatting it so things are easier to find. Add images, links to both the original and your Wayback Machine Archives, credits, and more! I’ll get working on an anonymous google form.

[slooopes]

Tango taking Iskall's head out of Hungry Hermits, "Very happy to do that."

I love him

[3-pots-of-soup]

ngl how the hermits handled the iskall situation was a breath of fresh air from the pov of someone who used to be in the dsmp fandom

like during the dsmp whenever a cc got outted as a creep (which was concerningly often) it was handled so poorly by both the fandom and the other creators, all of it went down publicly and almost all the ccs responded out of emotion and were super unprofessional about it + the fans had such mod mentality and were so aggressive about *everything*

vs with this it was all dealt with internally and professionally, publicly it was revealed and resolved in like a day, whilst being respectful to the victims-and almost everything ive seen from the fandom has been telling others not to harass ccs and not to speculate

its a lot more telling to me if a community is toxic or not not if there is never drama, but how the drama is handled when it does come up- anyway thats my thoughts on it- v disappointed with iskall but it was refreshing to see how the hermits dealt with it

[cricketblabbers]

We're all in agreement that we are leaving Stress out of it as she is not involved and deserves the space she's asking for.

And that we are also not bringing anything up on the hermits/VH streams/other unrelated content.

If they choose to speak on it that's their choice. We respect the victims and those who speak up and stand by in support.

[applester]

For people who don’t have Twitter!

[antimony-medusa]

Okay so, I just want to say, as someone who's been through this before (being a sf/fantasy fan, a music fan, and a dsmp fan, and living in my irl friend group has whammied me at various times because of various situations), something like this sucks, but it doesn't suck forever. Sometimes you have to leave the source material completely, and sometimes you work out a new relationship to it, but the love that you put into the world was not some sin on your part, and you will find a new way to navigate that love and— if you are a creator of some kind— that creativity.

You were lied to (by someone who knew that if we knew these things we'd feel very differently), and you found out the truth, and the truth sucks. It's rarely fun to be lied to. You have to let yourself grieve that disillusionment and the expectations you had for the future, but eventually all griefs get small enough that you can carry them more easily.

Every time something like this happened I found that my ability to create was just in the garbage for a while, because my brain was hitting all the buttons at the same time and would NOT focus, but eventually the need to create and imagine was strong enough to come back in some new way. I couldn't and still can't look at the work I made before in the same way, but eventually I could see it for the love I brought to it at the time, and I do believe that no love is wasted, even if you feel differently about things or people later. It absolutely sucks and you have to let it suck, but you do eventually find a new way to navigate finding joy and creativity in your media diet (or friend group, like I said, I kind of had this happen in my real life).

Which is to say I'm so sorry, and what you bring to the table has always been something that is worthy independent of the source, and you'll feel better eventually, I promise. Scumbag people can't keep us down forever.

[logosbot-tm]

There's been new information released about the Iskall Situation.

One comes from Kass, who has been one of Iskall's moderators on his streams, his discord, and on the Vault Hunters discord.

Here's Kass's statement

The other comes from Mefallit, who's been part of Iskall's community for a long while.

Here's Mefallit's statement

Reminder, as this is still important information:

No minors have been involved, and Stress isn't part of this

Link to my previous post about this

[riacte]

Honestly pissed off at people going “Iskall and Stress didn’t have much presence on the server anyway, I only watch the ✨Mountain✨ people, those two barely appear” why don’t you shut the fuck up. Literally shut the fuck up. It’s giving the vibes of “well at least not MY hermit!1!!1!2!2!1”. It’s just a really weird and irrelevant thing to say in public when ex-fans are disappointed and hurt. Worse when people immediately jump to “ooooh who will the hermits replace them with” like it’s purely a transactional/numbers game when it’s clearly not how HC works. Like the hermits aren’t dealing with a stressful and upsetting situation.

[flurmitcraff]

After reading both Kass and Mefalit's statements I'm so very heartbroken and disappointed. Anybody who has been watching Iskall's streams or Vault Hunters SMP these past few years would be able to recognize these names. Mefalit was a VERY big supporter of VH and prominent part of the community and it's terrible that she and the other victims were betrayed and manipulated like that.

Also just to remind people, making light of the situation by memeing on what Iskall did helps nobody. Comments like "I never liked him/always knew he sucked/had a bad feeling about him" especially disrespects the victims who DID trust him and were manipulated.

Respect the mods/community members involved and let their statements be just that. Do not speculate on more.

On a more positive note I'm glad that the Hermitcraft members dealt with this swiftly and maturely, thank you so much to the anonymous hermit Mefalit and the other victims managed to reach out to.

[dakotas-hermitblr-pogg]

I know none of the hermits are probably going to see this, but i’d like to put it out there i’m very grateful for the way they handled/are handling the iskall situation. It’s been done very professionally especially considering this must be very hard on them too. So thank you hermits for your professionality and care for the community along with yourselves

[give-grian-rights]

what's the tldr on the iskall situation? i can't find a full explanation (or even really half of one)

also stress??? sorry if you don't know any of the answers to this haha

at the moment, we know nothing other than that Iskall chose to resign when confronted with something, and, seemingly, Stress resigned in response. I am not accusing her of siding with something horrible, we know nothing on her situation. she could've done so out of distress.

source x

So far, and this is information I have gotten from other people, seemingly coming from each creator's discord, TangoFrag, ChosenArchitect, and Hrry have acknowledged it and have either quit or are taking a break from the Vault Hunters SMP.

This is what Doc had to say on it x

i caught the very tail end of Doc's stream and he honestly sounded emotional. I don't want to oversell it but shit clearly happened.

Other than Doc's vague response, several Hermits have retweeted the statement from Twitter.

Update:

Mumbo has clarified that it does not involve minors.

source x

Update Update:

False has clarified that Stressmonster has done nothing.

[flossthecryptid]

My thoughts on the Iskall situation:

•This man is a bad person who has done horrible things to people without considering the consequences on the victims, on other members hermitcraft, on his partner, or even on the community.

•No minors were involved to our current knowledge. This has been confirmed by both Mumbo Jumbo and one of the victims

•To summarise what he has done, he has (with an unknown amount of people) made sexual, creepy, comments to them, invited them onto a different messaging app where it is more private, referred to said app as “for family and close friends”, cheated on his partner, and, not told the victims he was also talking to other people.

•He groomed and manipulated and lied to these people. Do. Not. Defend him.

•Stress is not involved to our knowledge, the current assumption is that she left hermitcraft for related reasons (leaving because of Iskall actions) but nothing has directly come out about her.

•Please do not go around saying “oh no, I thought hermitcraft was safe, what if ____ is next?” This is unhelpful, and forgets that these are people. If you haven’t noticed, the hermits clearly hate this. They have made that abundantly clear with how they handled the situation.

•This whole situation shows that hermitcraft is still a safe place. The way they quickly and decisively took care of everything proves it.

•I am so, so, sorry to the victims of this. You do not deserve to have to tell the entire internet about something so personal to you.

Louis McClung on YouTube made a video which better explains the entire situation with the evidence and statement for the people affected.

[chaotic-tired-fox]

The Iskall situation and Hermitcraft TCG

I decided to ask CREO about the inclusion of Iskall cards a few days ago, this was their response and I’d thought I’d share it just in case anyone else is getting TCG cards and wanted to know if there were any changes.

I figured this would be the case and it’s completely understandable how it’s too late to make changes now but still I hope I don’t get any of those cards and idk what to do with them if I do :/

[amethystfairy1]

Regarding the Iskall Situation...

I've received a lot of asks wondering about what my take is on it, and since I'd prefer to have it all taken care of in one swoop so we don't have to continue to focus on it, here's my stance on the subject.

A: Yes, I have seen the credible evidence from Kasszki, I read the doc they posted, and I feel awful for them and the other victims that they had to deal with this. I'm glad to hear that the Hermits and others were supportive of them and helped them handle this situation in as professional a manner as possible. I have also seen the credible information from False that Stress left for her own separate reasons.

B: I strongly denounce Iskall's behavior, and I have absolutely zero intention of supporting him as a creator ever again.

C: Please don't pester the creators or the victims. I said it in my initial response to this situation before we knew what had happened, but my opinion remains the same here. Any information we get from the Hermits is a privilege, not a right. Hermitcraft and it's associated fandoms are well known for being healthy, good spaces, and I'm proud to be a member of this community. Now our money is where our mouths are. Please don't feed into the rumor mill, please continue to support the Hermits as you always would and don't pry or demand more details from them. This is a very difficult situation for all of us, and I'm certain it's even worse for all of them. Please keep in mind the Hermits are all grown adults, many of them had professional careers before they joined Hermitcraft, and they are handling this in as professional a manner as they are able. I applaud them for that. As their fans, we need to do the same.

What are my plans for Iskall and Stress in TTSBC?

Understandably, I've received several asks about what I plan to do about Iskall and Stress's characters in TTSBC. I've answered them individually, but I just want to put this here as a one-stop spot for what my stance is so it's clear.

I've always been a 'character not content creator' author. My characters are just that, characters. Does that mean I can completely remove them from the creators upon which they are based? No, of course not. That's not how this works, either. So here's my plan moving forward.

The two stories that heavily feature Iskall in TTSBC, "Run with It' and "Carry me Home Tonight" will remain up. They are timestamped with their dates of posting which was long before any of this came out, and again, they are very clearly meant to be characters, not the creators.

Iskall will be removed from the TTSBC: Wiki, and I will not be writing any new content for his character.

Does that affect the plot of TTSBC? Yes, it does. I'm not going to pretend it doesn't, and those of you who have followed the series at length can likely see where the issues arise...but I'm an author, and I can pivot. I also have an awesome little team behind me of @silver-sunray, @boo-the-ahh, and @khoirkid who are helping me to make sure TTSBC carries on smoothly despite this unforeseen struggle.

Stress will not be removed from the TTSBC: Wiki. As I mentioned in an ask earlier, her role in the story is very minor, and I hadn't planned for her to have any other pieces to herself outside of Hermit-a-Day May anyway...so aside from specific instances where it might be necessary to mention her, she will not be making any more major appearances. This is mainly because I'm a Hermit/Traffic/Empires writer, and I plan to stick to that notion unless future events cause me to pivot otherwise.

Lastly, I would appreciate if we could avoid anymore asks about the situation. If there are any further updates I'm sure I'll find that out on my own, I'm very active in this fandom and I see things pretty quickly when they spread, so if any new things related to this situation spring up, while I greatly appreciate your concern for me and my work, please don't send it to my inbox or in DM.

I'm very saddened by this, as I'm sure many of you are. Hermitcraft and it's associated fandoms have been my safe space for many years, through some of the hardest moments of my life, and with the mess that MCYT has proven itself to be at times, it felt like we were untouchable here. But like Doc said, the Hermits are good, and they are strong. And as their fans and supporters, we need to be the same.

Be good, be strong, and let's make sure our lovely community continues to be the positive space it always has been.

-Amethyst