#doom of the Noldor

[hedgehogoftime]

It's kinda funny how Silmarillion fans characterize Maeglin as this poor misunderstood goth kid who was ostracized by Gondolin, when Tolkien goes out of his way to describe how Maeglin was beloved of both his family and the people of Gondolin and that he rose high in honor and acclaim, but Idril was the only one who mistrusted him and that was because he was in creepy obsessive incesty love with her.

Like, it's a pretty straightforward case of "this guy has so much good stuff and has so much going for him but was corrupted by greed for the one thing he couldn't have". It's the same thing that ruined Feanor and his sons and so many others.

I'm not saying that what was done to him by Morgoth wasn't a tragedy, but he was also the architect of his own destruction.

[psstwantsomecheese]

Silmarillion as stuff I have on my phone

[lordgrimwing]

Gotta love how all encompassing the Doom of the Noldor is. Doom on you, Doom on your children, Doom in your dog.

[eri-pl]

So, the Doom of the Noldor

Isn't very strict, to put it politely.

Tears unnumbered ye shall shed; and the Valar will fence Valinor against you, and shut you out, so that not even the echo of your lamentation shall pass over the mountains.

...except that one time when Manwe sends an eagle to Fingon to save Maedhros (both kinslayers) precisely because of Fingon's lamentations prayer...

On the House of Fëanor the wrath of the Valar lieth from the West unto the uttermost East, and upon all that will follow them it shall be laid also. Their Oath shall drive them, and yet betray them, and ever snatch away the very treasures that they have sworn to pursue.

...except that one time M&M actually get the Silmarils. Yes, it's kind of ambiguous with this wording, because they do lose them eventually. But still, this 'prophecy' seems a little misleading here.

To evil end shall all things turn that they begin well; and by treason of kin unto kin, and the fear of treason, shall this come to pass.

...except Galadriel's woodland realm, which, sure, fades but doesn't end up evil. Also, Celebrimbor technically wasn't betrayed by his kin, and definitely in was not fear of treason what killed him...

The rest is ok, but even three mistakes— Even one mistake would prove that it wasn't Namo speaking those words. Namo makes no mistakes, doesn't lie, doesn't joke and doesn't use hyperboles. (Yes, that's headcanon.)

Namo is too omniscient to not be literal.

Many of you will say I'm being picky, and the eagle doesn't count or the words meant something else, and Galadriel wasn't with the Noldor but went separately (per later writings) or something.

Anyway, I'm pretty strict-minded when it comes to prophecies and I really don't think Namo would be that imprecise. Must have been one of his Maiar or whatever.

[edennill]

...wdyk, maybe it's well that Túrin never paired up with Finduilas because that would have literally been the result...

[cilil]

If Fëanor had forgone the whole "we have sworn, and not lightly" speech and instead said something like "oh yes curse me harder doomsdaddy uwu" he wouldn't have been cursed because Námo would've thought to himself "fuck it, this is already cursed enough"

[athrabeth-me-ah-also-me]

If there is something that sounds like Nírnaeth, this is it. I don't even want to elaborate.

But if you want to read it anyway, the culmination in the 6th minute is when Fingon dies. And what is afterwards is just tears.

[fadedfrost]

Since yesterday’s mood board featured lyrics from Stranger to the Rain, here is the idea that first connected that song to Tolkien for me.

[curiouselleth]

Got one!!

[beatles4ever65]

His fëa thrums with Song until he knows no more, their melody put to rest at last. As the lava burns his fëa away, Maedhros is reforged and returns to Valinor before the Darkening. But the Valar have something more in store for him, and Maedhros isn't sure he wants to know what...

Chapter 4: Doom Realized

Part of a time travel eldritch alternate universe about family, hope, healing, and redemption.

[woe-begotten-spirit]

bad and naughty elves get put in The Halls of Mandos to atone for their crimes

[lordgrimwing]

DOOMED BY THE NARRATIVE

In The Silmarillion, written by JRR Tolkien, the pivotal character Fëanáro utters the memorable words 'Get thee gone from my gate' and heralds in the beginning of the end of the once powerful Noldor race and his own death. Thousands of years later, the renown smith Celebrimbor, Fëanáro grandson, takes up the motto 'Speak, friend, and enter,' a phrase that will later save the newly formed fellowship in The Fellowship of the Ring but ultimately brings Celebrimbor to his own demise.

In this essay, I will--

The Fëanorians really started with “get thee gone from my gate” and ended with “speak, friend, and enter” and I feel that’s significant though I know not why

[cilil]

Námo: If you keep bothering me I'll have to curse you again.

Fëanor: Ha! Nice try, but you already cursed me!

Námo: You've had one, yes, but what about second doom?

[tenth-sentence]

Then all halted and stood still, and from end to end of the hosts of the Noldor the voice was heard speaking the curse and prophecy which is called the Prophecy of the North, and the Doom of the Noldor.

"The Silmarillion" - J.R.R. Tolkien