#digimon theories

[digi-guy]

i agree

i mean it sounds like a possibility, if its true then gulus gammamon should hes his own ultimate and mega

[amethyst-geek]

More Digimon Tinfoil Hat Theory Time

Remember a while back when I speculated that Kiyoshiro’s father may be Ryoma Mogami from Digimon Hunters? Well after I came up with that crazy theory I asked myself- who would Kiyoshiro’s mother be in this scenario? At first, I was just thinking some random girl the audience had never seen before, but then I remembered Mizuki. 

Think about it, she and Kiyoshiro both have blue eyes (granted, they’re different shades of blue, but still), and Mizuki is associated with aquatic Digimon like Kiyoshiro is. 

Of course, Ryoma and Mizuki never interacted like at all, so for them to be a couple would be pretty weird, but they don’t neccessarily need to have a serious romantic relationship. Since Xros Wars and Hunters seems to set in the early new 10s or the late 2000s, and this “Ryoma is Kiyoshiro’s father” theory came from me hoping that Ghost Game will immediately lead into a “Digimon Next Gen” story where Hiro and his team meet up with the children of the previous heroes (which means this hypothetical next gen series probably would take place no more than several years after the 02 epilogue which was set in either 2027 or 2028, meaning that “Digimon Next Gen” would take no later than 2033), the timeline seems to add up to Kiyoshiro being the product of a college tryst (that may or may not have involved alcohol or being trapped in an underwater cave where they were running low on oxygen).  

[firedragon1321]

Hey Digimon (Fans)

Guys.

Guys.

GUYS.

GUYS!

THE DIGITAL WORLD RUNS ON LINUX!

[millipedish]

Since I saw the first moment of an ENA cartoon I just assumed this all took place in an old computer.

What if...

It's a computer from 1995 that's been left on for all this time. It's not connected to the internet, it has a constant power supply and they've deactivated any kind of sleep mode. This machine has been carrying out its processes for years while slowly deteriorating from its own power. But in the meantime the corrupted data has spawned lifeforms, which have taken forms inspired by the clipart folder and various jpegs of classic art. Also they experience time digitally, so it's been centuries for them. They have built civilizations and as more and more of the memory is destroyed their civilizations have crumbled. So they're living in a dying world but also they would have never been born if the world wasn't dying.

You see holes in the world where code is exposed, a character slips into speaking binary, and even ENA herself glitches due to her emotions. The breakdown of the world may even explain the incorrect translations. There's also an area called the Dead God Graveyard which I can't help but think has to do with this world's past. I believe that the 'dead gods' are actually applications that just cannot work anymore. But they still take up space and they still shaped this world.

[artistic-moth-man]

Ok i made this really elaborate post but i think all the digimon fans kinda already know about/agree with this theory

Kari's chronically ill. Im just gonna say it

[justcypreus]

When I was younger it used to bother me that Lopmon's horns don't match w their other evos. So I made up a theory/headcanon to make it bother me less 😂

So Lopmon's adult, perfect and ultimate have their horns placed with middle horn in the front

While Lopmon's is placed with middle horn in the back.

I started thinking that the horns signify the mons willingness to fight since some descriptions of Lopmon says he doesn't like fighting.

Makes sense right? RIGHT?

But that would imply that Conomon and Chocomon are ready to stab.

To be fair, only Chocomon, Wendimon, Antylamon and Cherubimon showed up in Hurricane Touchdown. And they all had front stabby horns.

[sluggybasson107]

[Image Description: A digital drawing of Miyako and Hikari in their halloween outfits (Miyako as the devil and black Hikari as a cat) from the promotional art for the 02 movie. Miyako faces Hikari with hearts near her head. She’s smiling while bringing Hikari close with their hands clasped together. Pink hearts are around Miyako’s head and the characters have a white border around them. The background is a dark pink with a light pink background. End Image Description.]

🍂 Miyakari Autumn Event🍂 Day 2 (Falling For You)

[enteringdullsville]

Perry, the Periwinkle Drewman

Aesthetic: Dreary

Age: 24 (Season One)

Alignment: Enactor

Badge: Battery

Color Type: Blue

Debut: My Least Favorite Idea

Effects: Spirit Surge (Perry fires off his own aura as an attack); Battle Brawl (Perry launches a rapid series of attacks); Counter Strike (Perry turns an opponent’s momentum against them); Big Bang (Perry envelops the opponent in an enormous energy ball)

Extra Forms: Max Aura (Perry strains his body for a power, aura, and speed boost); Margin Shatter (Perry flashes white and he gains a much stronger boost with minimal drawbacks. Obtained in Season Three)

Family: Miranda and Myrtle Shurbot (Sisters); Gerald Shurbot (Father)

Rank: A- (Main Character)

Standout Features: Chin Length Hair, blue eyes, blushy cheeks, battery shirt.

Character Bases

Development

Perry was the second to last main character designed for ICT and the only one conceived after Rough Sketch’s end. As a result, his concept changed minimally. The permanent blush stickers he has were a mutation of the black ones he had before due to his second drawing being made by memory.

Be Confident

[friendrat]

I'm proud of my little theorists. My boys came up and asked if I thought Demidevimon could be the same Devimon from the black gear arc, which is totally a theory I also had as a kid.

[tamerjerry]

Random 4am Digimon thought:

Do you think Digimon can hop into video games and play them from inside?

The Cyber Sleuth games and other media do sometimes present Digimon as having the ability to hop into digital fields, networks, and other electronic devices, so it's not too much of a stretch, right?

I'm just imagining a couple of Digimon hopping into Pong to bat a ball around. Maybe showing up in Pac-Man to munch on power pellets and eat ghosts. Logging into Fortnite and owning noobs.

You know, that kind of thing.

[digi-guy]

oh right...

Yeah i definitly forgot about that, i have the vital hero but if they appear in the anime then it would most definitely be true

[manofmanymons]

(Possible spoilers!!) Have you ever thought about how maybe one of the reasons why Kaito gets so upset whenever someone claims to "know" what Miu wants/likes is because that's probably what her stalker did? Claim to know her better than herself/her family?

I think about these siblings and their past a lot lol. I'm so curious how their personalities and their relationship must've been like before the incident. Hope you have a good day!

Yes! It seemed like that guy made a lot of claims about what Miu wanted and how she felt that weren't true but that their parents believed anyway. Seeing as Kaito is generally the one who's more hung up on what happened back then (namely that he didn't notice sooner and stop it), it makes sense that that would be why he overreacts to anything that even slightly reminds him of it. If the last time someone tried to tell him they know what she wants, they were trying to manipulate him into letting them hurt her, he wouldn't exactly be keen on letting anyone else get away with it, even if their intentions are innocent.

On that note, hot take but I think that whole situation is also the reason he gets Weird™️about Takuma asking about what he loves about Miu. Cuz understandably I feel like most people's initial reaction to him saying he's not into his sister seemingly unprovoked is "hey what the fuck?" But like,,,in the context of everything they've been through, I can see how being asked if there's some reason he cares about her so much would read like an accusation to him. Like he was being compared to that guy. I mean, it kinda was a weird question to begin with--why would he need a reason to care about his sister?

Slightly unrelated tangent but I personally always found it weird that the other characters acted like it was weird that he worried about her so much. Like bro that's his baby sister. She's 2 apples tall. Even without the tragic backstory any half-decent brother would be worried alkkfdjak.

Anyways on the note of what they were like in the Before Times, just the other day I was telling one of my friends about how much I love MarineAngemon as a partner for Miu. Bc thinking about how...oh hell I haven't played this game in a MINUTE, I think it was the fake Syakomon(?) that accused her of pretending to like things she hates and hate things she likes + how she loved how cute the amusement park mons were + the way Kaito talks about her I feel like he's not actually being totally delulu about how cute she is. I feel like she probably did act a lot more cutesy but stopped because of Certain Life Events. So having her mega be something very small and very cute but still very strong is Neat, I think. Like she got a piece of her real self back and isn't so afraid of it anymore.

I'm also pretty positive that Kaito's always been a doting loser alfdkja. Like,,,his response to Minoru being worried about him letting Miu boss him around was just "hey how long do you think I've been doing this big brother thing for" lmao. Literally 0 backbone on that boy. As long as it isn't dangerous, Miu gets whatever Miu wants ToT And Miu saying he used to always pat her head wtf why are they so cute.

ALSO I NOTICED THEY BOTH REFER TO TAKING DOWN THE MASTER AS GOING AFTER THE "FINAL BOSS" SO YOU CANNOT TELL ME THEY DIDN'T PLAY A LOT OF VIDEO GAMES TOGETHER. NERDS WHO BOTH USE VIDEO GAME TERMINOLOGY IRL I LOVE THEM.

Anyways thanks for giving me an excuse to talk about Miu and Kaito again, I miss them dearly every day of my life and think about them constantly.

[mars-naegi]

So we all know that The Amazing Digital Circus takes place in, well, the digital world, right? Does this mean that TADC takes place in the same universe as Digimon? I mean, they're both about people getting sucked into a digital world full of dangerous happenings...or am I thinking too much about this? 🤔

[firedragon1321]

Missing Digidestined Theory

Hi and welcome to my humble abode. Tonight at 4 am, I'm going to (try) to make sense of some Digimon shit. Namely the number of Digidestined in Adventure's world, and how that correlates to a certain statement from the producers. This is entirely headcanon, possibly AU, and also made at 4-6 am. It also contains spoilers for the new 02 movie. There is a brief mention of child death. And it ends with complaints about the timeline and epilogue.

EDIT: This is no longer solid for several reasons, mainly conflicting information in 02 the Beginning, the presentation of clear AU as a theory, and the use of a ship blog as a source. On the first, I had not seen the movie yet (and now have doubts that Lui was really "the first", but that's a theory that basically ends in "Daigo/Maki's group were still first"). On the latter two points, I really should know better, and I apologize.

I have closed notifications due to some rude behavior, so I won't see any updates on this. However, I also deleted the original edit mentioning that since it itself was rude. There's really no reason to leave this up, except I like the idea generally and for archival purposes. If you still wish to read it, it is stored below. Just get ready for 40 year old Lui, lol.

I'll hook you with this- there weren't five Digidestined globally in Maki's time. There were eight.

This goes off a statement from one of the producers. You can read it all here.

Basically, the number of Digidestined worldwide would double. This ensures everyone would have a Digimon partner by 2027 (aka, the epilogue).

Doing the math- the number would exceed the global population (approximately 8 billion people) in 2020 (becoming 16,777,216 to be precise- 2019 cuts it close with 8,388,608, but the math is not wrong either way).

The exact statement says this "doubling" occurred from the Parrotmon incident forward. I personally believe that's BS because Willis exists. He receives Gummymon and Kokomon around the same time that the original Botamon spawns. There's also Meiko, Ken, and Ryo (depending on how you interpret the WonderSwan games). Meaning the number of Digidestined is higher than 8, and possibly already doubling.

Let's assume Lui is the first Digidestined. He seems to be around his early 20s (or ages really well- maybe it's Maybelline). Then Daigo and Maki's team came after him. Then Adventure team and so-on.

This all rides around this comment, as there are no official ages for Daigo, Maki, or Lui and we need them. User SharpeBB from With the Will points out the following, which I used as it's the only logical explanation I can find.

So based on this theory- assuming they were 11/12 when they were chosen, and Maki's age in the flashback is as SharpeBB claims, the original Digidestined would have set out on their mission in 1987 (using the age of 9 as a baseline for reasons I will explain later and computing in Maki's age of 21).

I assume for this theory that Maki was a Digidestined for at least two years prior to losing Tapirmon (referring to the flashback involving the Harmonious Ones). My tri. knowledge is a bit rusty. But since that flashback occurs in the Digital World, I'll have to assume she met Tapirmon in the real world, there was time fuckery similar to Adventure, adults were looking for the members of that team in the Real World, or any combination of the three.

So- 27 (Maki's age) minus 9 (assumed age when first she became a Digidestined) is 18. 18 years before tri. in 2005 was 1987.

There are five of these "original kids"- Daigo, Maki, and three unnamed ones. But you may notice that five is not an even number, nor a multiple of two. The lowest number of Digidestined that must exist globally at that time is eight. This doesn't mean for Maki's team specifically- they could be in another country, like the numerous American Digidestined.

So going backwards- there would be four Digidestined (globally) in 1986, two in 1985, and one (Lui) in 1984.

Incidentally, Lui was born on a leap year...which 1972 is. Using the baseline of 12 years (based on the above image), he would be 40 in 02 the Beginning. Let's just say he ages well.

So I bet you're tired of BS- let's get to the meat and potatoes. How many Digidestined really exist by the time of Adventure? Well, with 12 years between 1987 (original Digidestined) and 1999...the answer is 32,768.

Remember that not all Digidestined go to the Digital World. Some of this number might have died (we can't rule out "accidents" in the Digital World entirely, nor death via other means). Others might have stayed in the Real World and never went to the Digital World. Still others might have let their inner child- and partner- die (see Kizuna). But given the time gap between Daigo/Maki's team and 1999 alone, I don't think all 32,000+ of them were twiddling their thumbs.

There's more threats out there that we don't know about. There's more dead kids than we can fathom. And worse still, this only accelerates the amount of time until everyone has a Digimon. It would exceed the global population in 2009 with 16,777,216- that same number from the start- three years before 02 the Beginning.

Yet we can see that this is not the case. Ukkomon's MO is to give everyone a Digimon partner, which the world is not ready for. Recall that the production team claims the worldwide doubling occurred starting with Tai's team. Including those eight and the four outliers I mentioned, everyone would have a Digimon by 2019 (with an estimated 12,582,912 partnerships- this exceeds the global population). In 2012, this number is merely 98,304. Which makes sense for the Ukkomon plot.

So I wasted your time. Except...

I still feel this math doesn't account for things like Daigo/Maki's team and Lui. The producer's math states there are 64 Digidestined globally by 2002. But this cannot be the case as how do the Digidestined from before- or even kids like Willis- factor in? Like, they fit numerically, but how did they find their partners? Why were they chosen? Especially those before 1999, if it all connects to the Botamon in Japan? Also- assuming Lui is as young as he looks (i.e.- around Davis's age) makes Maki older than him...which makes no sense, given the average age someone becomes a Digidestined and her own assumed age.

It makes more sense for Lui to look really good for forty than the entire timeline does if we assume that the doubling began in 1999.

And this is because of two issues. One is "left hand not talking to right hand" throughout the Adventure timeline. There's simply no communication between departments (especially for the WonderSwan games, the canonicity of which is flaky even in my own personal timeline). This has resulted in other plot holes throughout Adventure canon.

Another is a hardcore determination to keep the epilogue canon, despite conflicting elements from tri. on forward. The link at the very beginning attempts to explain the epilogue, yet includes some absolutely bonkers explanations for things like why Matt became an astronaut (basically, there's extraterrestrial threats made in response to digivolution, and the Dark Masters are implied to be one of them, despite actually being linked to Apocalymon- is he also an alien???).

There was supposed to be a season 3 that would have evened out a lot of this (I'm afraid I forgot the link- if someone has it, let me know so I can add it). But we never got it, so the epilogue will never make logical sense. Almost all attempts to canonize it cause batshit lore to enter the chat, or it simply does not mesh with batshit lore from tri. onwards.

Both of these elements cause massive plot holes that make the 1999 doubling pace simply not work. So I'll play with this AU/headcanon some more. Besides, I personally find the idea of Digidestined hiding for decades interesting...

Thanks for surviving to the end!

Edit

Fixed a calculation to include Meiko (forgot her by accident.).

[matt0044]

To whomever Weeb it may concern...

All those hearlding the advent of AI translations because "no political" are just... sad. They really don't see that this doesn't stop at translators. Soon they'll dare to make Anime whole cloth from A.I. on top of voice actors (east or west), animation and dialogue.

Any dream job you might've had about this sort of field will go up in smoke for YOU if Artificial Intellegence is abused by those who care about money first, art dead last.

Bitch about Dragon Maid all you want but whatever mistakes (THAT THE STAFF OWNS UP TO) in script writing is proof that a human wrote this. That a human interpreted the Anime's text and subtext with a subjective lens. It might not feel "right" but it will feel HUMAN. It will feel personal.

I've been visiting dubs of yesteryear like Digimon, Robotech and a few exceptions from 4kids. They weren't always on the mark, often far from it, but they did feel like a human wrote this and was doing their darnest to make something they thought would work. Keep your irtual insanity, I want people.

[sirfowlman]

Digimon World lore & a crackpot fan theory about digital humans & Digimon Adventure

Ordinarily, I wouldn't bring up any fan theories or any connections between the World & Adventure; other than they shared some locations, like File Island. Then I found out that, storywise, Digimon World 2 was indeed a sequel to Digimon World 1 (thank you, Wayneisboss) & that DW & Adventure were pulling some ideas from the franchise's early lore but obviously went in different directions.

This fan theory came rushing through my head as I was watched the aforementioned Wayneisboss' review of Digimon World 2. Sorta like this!

You know those abandoned human objects & buildings that were strewn about in the Digital Worlds of DW1 & Digimon Adventure? In Digimon World, these items were confirmed to be abandoned by humans from Earth that were trying to colonise File Island. For one reason or another, a schism broke out between humans & digimon, which resulted in the humans fleeing the island.

In DW2, all of the humans (including our playable character) were revealed to be the descendants of said human survivors that fled File Island. The survivors had went on to settle the Folder Continent & had built Digital City.

Now on to Digimon Adventure. What if something similar happened to their Digital World? What if humans also tried to colonise Adventure's Digital World at some point, but failed? Though unlike their DW counterparts, the majority of them were wiped out, leaving only various man-made objects, autonomous vehicles, empty buildings, & perhaps a few survivors like Gennai, his clones(?)/kin(?) & NotKen McPedo the Mysterious Man, who were digitised at some point.

I think some other Digimon media have featured similar stuff, but I only singled out World & Adventure as they're the most familiar to me. There are also other digital humans similar to Gennai, but their origins are quite varied. From androids, to A.I.s, to digital clones.

Okay, I think that's enough theorizing for one day.