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#sorry guys polls dont allow all the heirs :(#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#house frey#elmar frey#big walder frey#aenys frey#black walder frey#lothar frey#danwell frey#edwyn frey#hosteen frey#lyonel frey#aegon frey#sorry if any of the options are actually already dead#im trying man#this is really the most important question before winds tho
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Part XXVII: Sansa II
Drawing Every Named Character in A Song of Ice and Fire
By Alejandro Kay
Chapter I: Prologue
Chapter II: Bran I
#a song of ice and fire#a game of thrones#gregor clegane#thoros of myr#balon swann#bryce caron#andar royce#robar royce#horas redwyne#hobber redwyne#jared frey#hosteen frey#danwell frey#emmon frey#theo frey#martyn rivers#jalabhar xho#lothor brune#fanart
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“Heirs have the responsibility, second sons have fun” - does it truly suck to be a third son of a noble family then, in Westeros and/or real world medieval Europe?
Some notable third sons in Westeros (not counting the ones who got to inherit based on the death of their elder brothers, such as Jaehaerys I, and not counting those elder of their brothers who died in infancy, such as Oberyn Martell, who is technically a fourth son):
Waymar Royce
Loras Tyrell
Renly Baratheon
Rickon Stark
Benjen Stark
Rhaegel Targaryen
Victarion Greyjoy
Maester Aemon
Archmaester Vaegon “the Dragonless”
Daeron “the Daring”
Joffrey Velaryon
Tygett Lannister
Tornan Peake
Aenys Frey (And other Freys including: Tion, Petyr “Pimple”, Danwell, Jaime, Whalen, Maester Willamen, Waltyr)
As is explicitly pointed out in Waymar’s (“Ser Waymar Royce was the youngest son of an ancient house with too many heirs.” —AGOT Prologue) and Loras’ (“it relieved him of the difficult task of trying to find lands and a bride for a third son, never easy, and doubly difficult in Ser Loras's case.” —ASOS, Sansa VI) cases, as third sons they had little chance to inherit, and little chance of marrying into/conquering lands, thus they joined celibate organizations. Maester Aemon joined another celibate organization, the Citadel, on the orders of his grandfather Dàeron II (who feared too many Maekarspawn running around, I guess), and Archmaester Vaegon was pressured by his father Jaehaerys I after he refused to marry any of his sisters (and probably had a happier ending than any of his siblings, studying in obscurity). Similarly, Benjen Stark and Maester Willamen Frey joined the Night’s Watch or Citadel respectively in order to not require their families to provide for them, or to follow family custom. Then there’s joining a sellsword company like Tornan; the “Second Sons” is named after how many landless younger sons joined (they could also be third sons, or sons of any birth order); similarly, Daemon Targaryen’s army on the Stepstones was partly composed of younger sons.
Those who didn’t join a celibate organization or went abroad usually stayed with their families as household knights, with mixed results of “fun.” Rickon and Renly had to part with them, either because splitting up would be safer or because since his brother was crowned, he got his own castle; they probably had the most fun out of their brothers, either fighting unicorns on Skagos or throwing tourneys in the Reach, but definitely not trained to rule. Joffrey was also kept out of the war due to his age, but that didn’t stop him from trying to protect the Dragonpit. It’s stated that Daeron “the Daring” was more of a follower of his brothers than a leader, and refused to accept the kingship when his brother was incapacitated. Prince Rhaegel was unfit to rule due to mental health issues, what with dancing around the Red Keep naked, but seemed to enjoy himself more than the notoriously joyless Maekar and Aerys. Tygett Lannister, Victarion Greyjoy, and Aenys Frey were fierce warriors and loyal commanders to their brother/father, although sometimes there’s been resentment (and none are dying well, from the pox or from falling into a trap during wartime in addition to probably unknowingly eating his own son, to whatever magical accident Victarion will end in). The other third son Freys range from horrifically murdered (Tion, Petyr) to humiliated (Danwell, Whalen) to children/just unknown, but I’m not sure if that’s due to them being third-born sons or if the author likes to debase Freys in general.
Joining celibate organizations or joining the army was true to life for younger sons in Medieval France, England, and Italy, although as these were Catholic countries, that celibate organization was the Church (that actually meant these sons often had a more scholarly education than their oldest brothers). However, there were third sons that were given land/titles/brides (often heiresses in their own right) by their fathers/brothers, or served their families through commanding armies or as diplomats (though there could be resentment). The amount of “fun” or “suckiness” depended on the situation of the family and character of the son, but he was certainly richer and better educated than most of the country. Though I’ll say that in Westeros, it’s often the first sons who are charismatic but drown themselves in their passions to avoid having to self-reflect/face criticism (Robert, Robb, Tywin), the second sons burdened with grim responsibility/loyalty/duty (Stannis, Ned, Kevan), whereas the third sons can get a little more freedom of expression away from the family (Renly, Rickon, Maester Aemon) (although in case of fourth sons, they may have the more fun and the third born is also somewhat burdened with grim loyalty; see Gerion, young “Egg”, young Aeron). But it’s difficult to try to assign traits based on birth order to all ASOIAF characters due to their different circumstances and personalities.
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It will never not be funny that in spite of all the complaints of people slighting his house, Lord Walder slights his own family more than anyone else.
If I'd known how they'd shame me, I would never have troubled myself to make the journey. Why did I need to ride all that way to see Hosteen knocked off his horse by that Tyrell whelp? I ask you. The boy's half his age, Ser Daisy they call him, something like that. And Danwell was unhorsed by a hedge knight! Some days I wonder if those two are truly mine. My third wife was a Crakehall, all of the Crakehall women are sluts. Well, never mind about that, she died before you were born, what do you care? -AGOT, Catelyn IX "He picked her because she's fat," Lord Walder said. "You think Bolton gave a mummer's fart that she was your whelp? Think he sat about thinking, 'Heh, Merrett Muttonhead, that's the very man I need for a good-father'? Your Walda's a sow in silk, that's why he picked her, and I'm not like to thank you for it. We'd have had the same alliance at half the price if your little porkling put down her spoon from time to time." -ASOS, Epilogue
You can tell he actively hates his family, giving his son a demeaning sobriquet and literally calling his granddaughter a "pig." He doubts whether his sons are his for being unhorsed when he was never renowned himself for his skill at jousting. He knows they're waiting for him to die, and trying to earn his favor since he controls the purse strings, making him feel contempt for them.
What's he got to be so puffed up about anyway? Only two sons, and one of them's a twisted little monster. I'll match him son for son, and I'll still have nineteen and a half left when all of his are dead!"
Yet, he never blames himself for creating the situation. He sees them as disappointments when none of them were ever bold enough to ask what his accomplishments were prior to the Red Wedding? For all his remarks of Tywin being so puffed up, while true, Tywin at least had accomplishments he could point to. He fought in the War of the Ninepenny Kings, won battles, crushed rebellions, served ably as Hand of the King and became father to a queen. Walder on the other hand never won any tourneys, or performed well at the tilt or even melee. He never personally fought in or served in any distinction in battle as far as we know, and his only distinction was getting the title "Late Lord Frey" for his sons showing up to support his liege lord after it was clear who had won. Nor did he ever have a position at the royal court. His biggest victory was a massacre in violation of guest right, the Red Wedding that earned widespread condemnation and contempt.
He had all those children as a vain way of overcompensating for his insecurity over other houses looking down on him, ie he's more manly for his fertility and fathering more sons than any other lord in Westeros. But with having all those kids, his younger sons and their progeny have valid concerns over what happens when he dies. They have no lands or incomes of their own, and that would leave them in precarious positions. (Also, somehow, I think Tywin's sons will outlive all his.) He treats them more as pawns and tools giving them less reason to love him.
His parenting style ultimately resulted in a dysfunctional house riddled with factionalism with every Frey looking out for himself as Merrett put it. Once he dies, the powder keg is going to go off and the Twins will be rife with civil war. None of his progeny will likely mourn him or at least not for long.
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who do we think would be part of ✨catelyn’s lady court✨
i was thinking wynafrei whent, bc she’s a cousin and probably around the same age. she’s married to a frey so u can see walder being like “take one of my daughters north right the fuck now” bc he’s trying to offload. idk who though….she’s married to danwell frey, who is a crakehall frey, and they’re mostly Pathetic Freys imo. would walder be offloading freys around catelyn’s age or robb’s age. i was picturing just after bran’s been born, like 192ish.
from the north i thought for sure leona woolfield (and wylis manderly) would be there, probably dacey mormont, meera reed, alys karstark…i simply want sansa and myranda to be friends in every universe, so she goes north when catelyn writes a letter to bronze yohn and makes ned sign his name at the bottom.
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all character names used in the song of ice and fire pile
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Meryll of House Frey (OC) -- Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire
FULL NAME: Meryll Frey BORN: 281 AC ALLEGIANCE: House Frey CULTURE: Riverlands STATUS: Unmarried RELIGION: The Seven LOCATION: The Twins, Riverlands SOCIAL CLASS: Noble SPOKEN LANGUAGES: Westerosi Common Tongue, High Valyrian
MOTHER: Mariya Frey (of House Darry) FATHER: Merrett Frey, Ninth Son of Walder Frey SIBLINGS: Amerei "Gatehouse Ami" Frey, "Fat" Walda Frey, Marissa Frey, "Little" Walder
FACE CLAIM: Gemma Arterton HAIR COLOR: Chestnut Brown EYE COLOR: Light Brown TATTOO(S): N/A SCAR(S): N/A
ATTRACTS WITH: Captivating charm and compassion, complexity, humour, loyalty, marvellous mind, eccentricities, humanitarian conscience, high ideals and inspiring imagination, exaggerated curiosity
LOSES WITH: Self-righteousness and brutal honesty, emotional defenses and paralysis, lack of deep personal engagement, unreasonable arguments and opposition
BIOGRAPHY: Meryll was the fourth daughter born to Merrett and Mariya Frey. Four girls, and no sons. Her father had been greatly disappointed by the birth of another daughter. Meryll can't remember if anyone ever told her that, but as a child, she must have sensed it on some level, because as early as she can remember, she tried to be the son her father wanted. She dressed in boys clothing and followed him everywhere. He taught her how to care for the horses, how to fish, how to ford the river when the waters were high, and other practical skills.
After Meryll's tenth nameday, Merrett and Mariya were finally blessed with a boy -- "Little" Walder, and her father finally had a real son. She was getting to an age were she couldn't really pass herself off as a boy anymore anyway. Around this same time, Merrett began suffering terrible headaches as a result of a head injury suffered when he was a squire. He started drinking heavily and became known as the Twin's biggest drunk, none of which improved his mood. He was a mean drunk and Meryll began to feel as if her very existence offended him somehow. Fortunately, her Uncle Danwell and Aunt Winnifrei, who had not been able to have children, stepped in and raised Meryll as if she was their own.
Meryll begged for a sword but Uncle Danwell didn't think it wise to give such an unruly girl a blade, and instead presented her with a bow. She turned out to be a natural with a good eye and steady hand.
Growing up at the Twins, Meryll was close with her three sisters, Amerei, Walda and Marissa, as well as an uncle of similar age to her, Olyvar, and a cousin, Alesander. Meryll didn't have a bad relationship with her mother, but Mariya wasa prickly woman, lacking in warmth.
While home at the Twins, Meryll spends as much time as possible outdoors, and can often be found reading by the riverbank. She is particularly fond of tales of the great knights, her favourite being Ser Barristan the Bold, Ser Gerald Hightower, and Ser Duncan the tall -- in that order.
VERSES:
There will be blood | Pre- Red Wedding (AGOT, ACOK)
This is a time of uncertainty for House Frey. Meryll has kinsmen who are loyal to the Starks, and kinsmen who think the only way for House Frey to survive is to kneel to King Joffrey. In this verse, Meryll can be found in:
The Twins (default)
Kings Landing – attending the Tourney of the Hand with her Uncle Danwell
Winterfell – as Catelyn’s wards along with Little Walder and Big Walder
The Dreadfort – helping pregnant sister Walda
10 things I hate about you | Post- Red Wedding
Meryll is conflicted about her family’s actions and is looking for a way to leave The Twins. It is a dangerous time, however, with House Frey being persona non grata, and it’s hard to know who to trust. In this verse, Meryll can be found:
At The Twins, plotting her escape
Travelling around Westeros, hiding her identity
Across the Narrow Sea | Post- Red Wedding, in Essos
Meryll has accompanied her childhood hero, Ser Barristan Selmy, to Essos to find Daenerys Stormborn. In this verse, Meryll can be found:
in various locations of Essos, still searching for Daenerys
anywhere along Daenerys’ book or show route
#muses#|| meryll of house frey#|| meryll: surly river siren (about)#|| meryll: leather boots and hidden daggers (wardrobe)#|| meryll: misty mornings and forest streams (aesthetic)#|| meryll: i'd give him a good kick in the shins (musings)
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“It is better than the songs,” she whispered when they found the places that her father had promised her, among the high lords and ladies. Sansa was dressed beautifully that day, in a green gown that brought out the auburn of her hair, and she knew they were looking at her and smiling.
Our precious cinammon roll is enjoying herself (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
“His armor is bronze, thousands and thousands of years old, engraved with magic runes that ward him against harm,” she whispered to Jeyne. Septa Mordane pointed out Lord Jason Mallister, in indigo chased with silver, the wings of an eagle on his helm. ... The twins Ser Horas and Ser Hobber, whose shields displayed the grape cluster sigil of the Redwynes, burgundy on blue. Patrek Mallister, Lord Jason’s son. Six Freys of the Crossing: Ser Jared, Ser Hosteen, Ser Danwell, Ser Emmon, Ser Theo, Ser Perwyn, sons and grandsons of old Lord Walder Frey, and his bastard son Martyn Rivers as well
Look at Sansa showing off her skils in history and heraldy.
Jeyne covered her eyes whenever a man fell, like a frightened little girl, but Sansa was made of sterner stuff. A great lady knew how to behave at tournaments. Even Septa Mordane noted her composure and nodded in approval.
GRRM subtly reminding the readers that Sansa has a certain inner strength that is rivalled by few.
The most terrifying moment of the day came during Ser Gregor’s second joust, when his lance rode up and struck a young knight from the Vale under the gorget with such force that it drove through his throat, killing him instantly ... His cloak was blue, the color of the sky on a clear summer’s day, trimmed with a border of crescent moons, but as his blood seeped into it, the cloth darkened and the moons turned red, one by one
This is clearly a foreshadowing for the Mountain Clansmen interrupting the Winged Knight's Tourney and blood spilling into the Gates of the Moon.
She had never seen a man die before. She ought to be crying too, she thought, but the tears would not come. Perhaps she had used up all her tears for Lady and Bran. It would be different if it had been Jory or Ser Rodrik or Father, she told herself. The young knight in the blue cloak was nothing to her, some stranger from the Vale of Arryn whose name she had forgotten as soon as she heard it. And now the world would forget his name too, Sansa realized; there would be no songs sung for him. That was sad
I remember in the early years of being part of the ASOIAF fandom and frequently going on the forum site Westeros.org. This scene was often used to proof that Sansa was a sociopath. Which is weird, because first of she admonishes herself for her lack of reaction and in the end she's still saddened by Ser Hugh's death. Secondly, anyone with a brain can see this scene establishes that Sansa, like her brother Bran, can keep her composure in the face of death.
Ser Loras was the youngest son of Mace Tyrell, the Lord of Highgarden and Warden of the South. At sixteen, he was the youngest rider on the field, yet he had unhorsed three knights of the Kingsguard that morning in his first three jousts. Sansa had never seen anyone so beautiful .... To the other maidens he had given white roses, but the one he plucked for her was red. “Sweet lady,” he said, “no victory is half so beautiful as you.” Sansa took the flower timidly, struck dumb by his gallantry. His hair was a mass of lazy brown curls, his eyes like liquid gold. She inhaled the sweet fragrance of the rose and sat clutching it long after Ser Loras had ridden off.
It should be noted that while Sansa initially was taken by Ser Loras beautiful looks, what made her fall for him was the romantic courtly gesture of him giving her a red rose and unofficially declaring her Queen of Love and Beauty. Meaning in order to capture Sansa's heart you have to shower her with romantic gestures. Interestingly enough, the pedophilic characters who Sansa is often shipped with (*coughs* cujo come again *coughs*) don't show any sign of being romantic enough to court Sansa in the way she wants to be courted. The oone who does fit this description is our sour patch kid Jon Snow. Now he knows how to court a lady. Your ugly pedophile fave can never compare to him (✿◡‿◡).
“You must be one of her daughters,” he said to her. He had grey-green eyes that did not smile when his mouth did. “You have the Tully look.” “I’m Sansa Stark,” she said, ill at ease. The man wore a heavy cloak with a fur collar, fastened with a silver mockingbird, and he had the effortless manner of a high lord, but she did not know him. “I have not had the honor, my lord.” Septa Mordane quickly took a hand. “Sweet child, this is Lord Petyr Baelish, of the king’s small council.” “Your mother was my queen of beauty once,” the man said quietly. His breath smelled of mint. “You have her hair.” His fingers brushed against her cheek as he stroked one auburn lock. Quite abruptly he turned and walked away.
What I would like to know is WHY ON EARTH IS SEPTA MORDANE SITTING IDLY BY AS THIS CREEP IS TOUCHING SANSA. This old woman has one job and she can't even do it right. ╰(艹皿艹 )
Sansa and Septa Mordane were given places of high honor, to the left of the raised dais where the king himself sat beside his queen. When Prince Joffrey seated himself to her right, she felt her throat tighten. He had not spoken a word to her since the awful thing had happened, and she had not dared to speak to him. At first she thought she hated him for what they’d done to Lady, but after Sansa had wept her eyes dry, she told herself that it had not been Joffrey’s doing, not truly. The queen had done it; she was the one to hate, her and Arya. Nothing bad would have happened except for Arya.
imagine reading this part and not seeing how Sansa is desperately trying to convince herself that Joffrey isn't who she thinks he is and even then she barely convinces herself by the looks of the next passage:
She could not hate Joffrey tonight. He was too beautiful to hate. He wore a deep blue doublet studded with a double row of golden lion’s heads, and around his brow a slim coronet made of gold and sapphires. His hair was as bright as the metal. Sansa looked at him and trembled, afraid that he might ignore her or, worse, turn hateful again and send her weeping from the table.
Sansa shows signs of having the battered woman syndrome. Did the fandom notice this? Did they even care about Sansa and the horrible situation is in? Of course they don't. They are too busy hating on her. This is why I fucking hate a certain section of this fandom when they speak on the so called dangers of Sansa being the ideal westerosi noble lady. When you can't understand the great nuance to why Sansa made that choice during the Trident incident and why she chose to forgive both Cersei and Joffrey then you should keep your mouth shut and never ever talk about Sansa.
And Joffrey was the soul of courtesy. He talked to Sansa all night, showering her with compliments, making her laugh, sharing little bits of court gossip, explaining Moon Boy’s japes. Sansa was so captivated that she quite forgot all her courtesies and ignored Septa Mordane, seated to her left
Notice how only after Joffrey love bombs her that Sansa finally decides to forgive him and thinks that what happened at the Trident was only a fluke. Once again does the fandom notice? Of course not. They are too busy sucking off the fan favorite characters and don't bother to understand the nuance to Sansa's chapters, especially her AGOT chapters.
“Do you need an escort back to the castle?” “No,” Sansa began. She looked for Septa Mordane, and was startled to find her with her head on the table, snoring soft and ladylike snores. “I mean to say … yes, thank you, that would be most kind. I am tired, and the way is so dark. I should be glad for some protection.”
I swear this woman is the WORST SEPTA IN PLANETOS.
Sansa could feel the Hound watching her. “Did you think Joff was going to take you himself?” He laughed. He had a laugh like the snarling of dogs in a pit ... Suddenly terrified, Sansa pushed at Septa Mordane’s shoulder, hoping to wake her, but she only snored the louder. King Robert had stumbled off and half the benches were suddenly empty. The feast was over, and the beautiful dream had ended with it.
Sansa is clearly terrified by Cujo come again and yet some people have convinced themselves that this is a grand romance.
Sansa could not bear the sight of him, he frightened her so, yet she had been raised in all the ways of courtesy. A true lady would not notice his face, she told herself. “You rode gallantly today, Ser Sandor,” she made herself say. Sandor Clegane snarled at her. “Spare me your empty little compliments, girl … and your ser’s. I am no knight. I spit on them and their vows. My brother is a knight. Did you see him ride today?” “Yes,” Sansa whispered, trembling. “He was …” “Gallant?” the Hound finished. He was mocking her, she realized. “No one could withstand him,” she managed at last, proud of herself. It was no lie. Sandor Clegane stopped suddenly in the middle of a dark and empty field. She had no choice but to stop beside him. “Some septa trained you well. You’re like one of those birds from the Summer Isles, aren’t you? A pretty little talking bird, repeating all the pretty little words they taught you to recite.” “That’s unkind.” Sansa could feel her heart fluttering in her chest. “You’re frightening me. I want to go now.”
Sansa tries to start a conversation out of politeness and this nasty man has to derride her for this. He goes on to mock her skills and even when she makes a clever comment he still denigrates her despite knowing full well that her courtesies is something she should be fucking proud of. God this man is so hateful. He can't accept anything being good and kind. Everyone needs to be as equally miserable as him. (*  ̄︿ ̄).
Sandor Clegane put a huge hand under her chin and forced her face up. He squatted in front of her, and moved the torch close. “There’s a pretty for you. Take a good long stare. You know you want to. I’ve watched you turning away all the way down the kingsroad. Piss on that. Take your look.”
This is the second older man that touches Sansa's face without her consent, but sure tell me how cujo come again, is so much better than Pedofinger and the King of Incels.
The rasping voice trailed off. He squatted silently before her, a hulking black shape shrouded in the night, hidden from her eyes. Sansa could hear his ragged breathing. She was sad for him, she realized. Somehow, the fear had gone away. The silence went on and on, so long that she began to grow afraid once more, but she was afraid for him now, not for herself. She found his massive shoulder with her hand. “He was no true knight,” she whispered to him.
Despite the fact that cujo come again has been so rude to her, had every intention to break her spirit and her ideals, Sansa rises above it, and shows us her unyielding side. 'He was no true knight.' And she's right. Even if the insitution of knighthood is corrupt that doesn't mean chivalry isn't worth upholding. In fact it's especially in face of adversity that you should stay true to the knightly ideals. Cujo come again take note from Sansa Stark.
The Hound caught her by the arm and leaned close. “The things I told you tonight,” he said, his voice sounding even rougher than usual. “If you ever tell Joffrey … your sister, your father … any of them …” “I won’t,” Sansa whispered. “I promise.” It was not enough. “If you ever tell anyone,” he finished, “I’ll kill you.
In case you guys didn't know, threatening to kill someone is a great way to start off a romance. /s
Next chapter our reluctant detective: Ned Stark.
#asoiaf reread project#rereading agot#Sansa Stark#a little bit of Jonsa#anti asoiaf fandom#anti sandor clegane#anti sansan#i am quite opinionated in this post#so buckle up everyone
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Current Royals Roster as of Chapter 39
King’s Landing Royals Current roster, including September call-ups:
Starting Pitchers (6):
Bronn Blackwater, Garin Greenblood, Jaime Lannister, Loras Tyrell, Steelshanks Walton, Raynald Westerling
Relief Pitchers (11):
Lyle Crakehall (middle relief), Andrew Estermont (middle relief), Cleos Frey (left-handed specialist), Edmund Gardener (middle relief), Thoros Myr (closer), Lorimar Peake (left-handed long relief), Josamyn Peckledon (left-handed middle relief), Lewys Piper (middle relief), Meryn Trant (set-up man), Kermit Tully (left-handed reliever), Karyl Vance (middle relief)
Catchers (3)
Rego Draz, Podrick Payne, Brienne Tarth
Infielders (7)
Daven Lefford (second base), Arryk Leftright (utility player), Erryk Leftright (utility player), Addam Marbrand (shortstop), Arys Oakheart (first base), Casper Straw (second base), Balon Swann (third base)
Outfielders (6)
Beric Dondarrion (center field), Osmund Kettleblack (left field platoon), Dickon Manwoody (center field), Dickon Tarly (right field), Damon Vypren (utility player), Gendry Waters (left field platoon).
Currently on Injured List:
Danwell Frey (60-day IL, torn Achilles tendon, required surgery, out for season)
Dontos Hollard (60-day IL, torn Ulnar Collateral Ligament, required Tommen Jon surgery, out for season)
Moreo Tumitis (60-day IL, shoulder tendonitis, out for season)
Recent Royals Transactions:
ACTIVATED Jaime Lannister from 60-day IL; currently serving 10-game suspension for inciting benches-clearing incident vs. Harrenhal
MOVED Moreo Tumitis from 10-day IL to 60-day IL
RECALLED C Podrick Payne, OF Dickon Manwoody, IF Casper Straw, RP Karyl Vance, RP Andrew Estermont, and SP Lorimar Peake from AAA
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Chapters: 8/? Fandom: A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin, A Song of Ice and Fire & Related Fandoms, Game of Thrones (TV) Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Jaime Lannister/Brienne of Tarth Characters: Brienne of Tarth, Jaime Lannister, Cersei Lannister, Tyrion Lannister, Selwyn Tarth, Genna Lannister, Kevan Lannister, Cleos Frey, Barristan Selmy, Tywin Lannister, Wylla Manderly, Humfrey Wagstaff, Dick Crabb, Danwell Frey, Alliser Thorne, Bronn (ASoIaF), Osmund Kettleblack, Podrick Payne, Janos Slynt Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Baseball, Alternate Universe - Modern Setting, yes this is The Baseball Story!!, (for everyone who's heard me talking about it for a while), pitcher!Jaime, catcher!Brienne, typical misogyny against a female who wants to play baseball, at least at first, and yes there is twincest at the beginning, warning: This Author is a lifelong St. Louis Cardinals fan, and she's not shy about admitting that parts of this story will draw on recent Cardinals history, More characters to be added later, Slow Burn, yeah I probably should've warned for that a little sooner, and more tags too Summary:
All Brienne Tarth's ever wanted to do was play baseball. Aresd thisll the world's ever given her is scorn for thinking a woman could be as good as a man--until she's drafted by the King's Landing Royals. Now she's got a chance to make her wildest dreams come true.
Jaime Lannister overcame a rocky start to his career to become the premiere pitcher for the King's Landing Royals. He thinks a woman playing professional baseball is ludicrous--until he meets Brienne Tarth.
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Cold - Jaime Lannister
Hello! So this is my part for @justauthoring ‘s 14k challenge! Also a bit of my pilot as to know if I start a GoT sideblog, if enough people like this one.
Pairing: Jaime Lannister x Reader
Prompt: “Look, if this is gonna happen, then you need to do it. I can’t risk getting stabbed again. I just can’t” (prompt 21 if I remember correctly)
Word count: 2409
Warnings: This has no happy ending I’m sorry but I could do a part 2 on demand I guess
"Get off of me you prick-- oof" Your teeth were clenched as you fought against the two men dragging you across the court. They had stopped trying to be gentle a while ago, but it didn't dim the fire enraging you. They finally stopped in the middle of the place, holding you in front of the Black Fish. He looked at you with half contempt, half admiration before his eyes trailed onto the barred door. You couldn't help but follow his stare, your heart skipping a beat knowing who was on the other side of it. "Just say the words girl" The Tully man spoke, barely sparing her a glance. "And you're free to go"
"You won't make me change my mind" She sneered. "I won't give in"
"Want some advice. Don't sacrifice yourself for them" He grunted. "He's not worth it" "I'm loyal to house Lannister" She spat at his feet. "As you wish" He sighed and walked away. You were held there for a few minutes, until the door opened to let Edmur Tully in. He didn't even spare you a glance and went straight up the watch tower. Moments later, the door opened again. You began trashing against your hold again as you watched the Lannister army walk in with Jaime at their head. "Jaime!" You yelled, getting his attention. "Let her go" He commanded to the man, and seeing as the Tully forces had surrendered, he did as told. You let out a breath of relief as you went to him, and halted your steps at a modest enough distance from him. You hadn't seen him in years, but he had gotten even more handsome, if he even could. "Are you alright?" He asked in a breath after a quick visual analysis for apparent injuries. "Quite, thank you" You replied, catching his glance as it set back on your face. "... And your husband?" He hesitated, but managed to hide most of the disgust in his voice. He never liked that your father married you off to a Frey. "Killed in combat" You replied without much emotion, but a bit of sadness for your next words. "So was the boy" "I'm sorry" His voice was low. He did his best not to sound even remotely joyful of the news. Of course he would have never wished for you to lose your infant child, but he knew this arrangement had never made you happy anyway. Neither him, if he was being honest. "It's fine-- Watch out!" You woke up with a gasp, clutching your left side where you remembered vividly the steel piercing through. You had reacted quicker than Jaime had and put yourself in between him and the Black Fish's sword. You had been reliving this memory in your dream more often lately, and you really wished it would go away. It bitterly reminded you of the worst mistake you had ever made. Days after the stabbing, when you had woken up again, Jaime had been at your side. You had been granted a chamber in the Twins, one where the rising sun spilled warmth into the room. He had been there, sitting on the side of your bed to make sure you woke up again. You had left the Twins not long after, and he had closely looked after you for the time of your travel back to the Capital. Every time your carriage would stop he'd check on you, he'd make sure your wound was cleaned and bandaged again every few hours. You had caught up on the lost time, and you had really thought the spark that had been there years ago when you first met was back and stronger than ever. But then, when you had reached King's Landing, everything changed. He had only checked on you once, a few days after your arrival, and avoided you when you began to walk around again. When crossing paths with your became inevitable, he would only advert his eyes and nod in half acknowledgement, and it broke your heart. The final blow, you thought, was the day you had been summoned into the throne room by the Queen. There were only five other people around her, and you had felt small under their stare. "Lady (Y/N), my dear" Cersei had greeted with a smile that didn't quite reach her eyes. "You look better than the last time I saw you" "I feel better, Your Grace. Thank you" You had politely lowered your head. "Good" She had simply replied. "I have an important matter to discuss with you today" You had only nodded, suddenly feeling uneasy. You hadn't known if it was her smug expression or the stares from the two men you recognized as the Tarlys, but you had had a bad feeling about the outcome of this. "As you know you are one of the last Tyrell alive, and the only one who respected her pledge to the throne through thick and thin" She had began. "The future of house Tyrell now weights on you, whether or not you were prepared for it" "Of course, Your Grace" You had agreed with it. Your cousins might have broken faith with the Lannisters, but you hadn't. "And from what I've been told, you are no longer married to Danwell Frey. Such tragic fate for your son" She had trailed off. "But a Lady with your name deserve better than the Frey, won't you agree?" You hadn't replied, only gulped and glanced quickly at Jaime, who had been staring emptily directly in front of him. "Once the war is over, you will marry Dickon Tarly to unite house Tyrell and Tarly again" Her words had been like a second blade in the wound. You didn't want to marry ever again, not when you had just been reunited with Jaime. Your first marriage had left a bitter taste in your mouth and you wanted no part in another one again. You had tried to catch Jaime's glance as a plea for help, but to no avail. You had swallowed hard and forced yourself to meet the Queen's eyes again. You had taken a deep breath and curtsied, pushing back your true feelings deep inside. "I will fulfill my duty, your Grace. Thank you" You looked outside at the sun rays peeking at the horizon and sighed, knowing it was useless to try and sleep again. You stretched and got out of bed, starting your routine earlier than usual. As you were slowly getting dressed, you realized how much of an idiot you were to stay loyal to the Lannisters. You should have taken the Black Fish's advice when you still could and go wherever you wanted. You weren't exactly a prisoner of the Queen, as you had a proper chamber and could go out in the gardens at any time, but you weren't free to leave either. Now that your new promised had been executed by the Targaryen girl, you weren't worth as much in her eyes. There were no one left important she could marry you off to; you were only a pawn she no longer needed. You quickly braided your hair, then grabbed your bow and quiver from under your bed. You had always loved archery, but your marriage to the Danwell Frey had you putting it aside. However, now that all you ever had was free time, you liked to sneak off somewhere private and practice. You stayed all morning by the sea, just shooting all of the arrows in your quiver and picking them back up to do it all again. It relaxed you as much as it gave you a foreign sense of freedom you knew you would never really taste. When you got back to your chambers, the door had been left ajar. You tensed up and carefully pushed it open, your fingers twitching on your bow. Though, your shoulders sagged when you recognized the golden hair of the intruder, who had his back to you. "What are you doing here?" You said sternly as he spun around, eyes wide. "(Y/N), thank the gods" He took several steps in your direction. You noticed me wasn't wearing his usual armor, but rather was clad in a leather jacket and a cloak and opting for low profile colors instead of the flashy red and gold. "We need to go now" "What's going on?" You took a step back as he took one forward to bring you with him, and hurt flashed in his eyes. "I don't have the time to explain now" He started pacing around. "We need to--" "I'm not going anywhere with you until you tell me what is happening" Your tone took a sharp edge. "Please" He begged. "Just trust me" "Ha, that's rich" You snapped. "Why should I trust you after you've betrayed me that way?" Jaime flinched. "It wasn't like that" "It wasn't like that?" You repeated, your eyes widening in anger and disbelief. "You knew how I felt about marriage, and most importantly, you knew how I felt about you. How we felt about each other. Was I just a toy for you?" "No!" He exclaimed, almost frustrated. "I felt for you the same way, you know it. I never wanted that for you" "Yet You just stood by and watched. All you had to do was speak up" You replied in a half whisper, before your voice took a more cynical edge. "But no, you wouldn't have done that now, would you? Because the she would have known, and you couldn't have that" He didn't deny your accusations, which made you chuckle dryly. Of course, you wouldn't be enough for him to go against his sister, his lover. "I believed in you, Jaime" You said as you put your bow down and started to undo your quiver belt. "I believed in us. And look where it got me" "Alright, I'm an idiot and I'll never be worthy of you. There, I said it" He hurried his words. "But please, believe me when I say that we both need to get out of here while we still can. She almost had me killed, (Y/N)" That made you pause for a moment. You looked into his eyes and saw nothing but urgency and desperation. You knew Jaime, and despite the fact that you weren't ready to even remotely forgive him, you did believe him. You sighed and gave him a nod, and his shoulder untensed slightly. "Bring your bow and a cloak, we'll get the horses" /-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/ You brought your horses to a halt when you were far enough from the capital to put on your gloves, as the temperature had suddenly dropped several degrees. You watched a single snowflake fall on the black leather covering Jaime's golden hand, and suppressed a shiver of fear and uncertainty concerning what would happen next. You had been informed of Cersei's planned betrayal, but you still hesitated to ride up North like that, as you were still very much flagged an enemy. Just like he had read your mind, Jaime then spoke up. "We can't just ride to Winterfell alone" He said, gaining your attention. "We can't" You agreed. "They'll hang us" He took a moment to think, then looked to his left. "The Lannisters army's camp is down this road" He stated. "I'll try to rally as much men as I can to ride up with us" "That would be smart" You nodded. "I might need your help as well" He then added. "Can you try and convince the old Tyrell allies to ride North? I'm sure they'll follow you" You went rigid in your saddle. By sticking by the Lannisters, you had betrayed your family's decision to side with the Targaryen queen. You had been seen as a traitor then, and you doubted your reputation got better when the traditional Tyrell allies had been forced to switch alliances after the taking of High Gardens. Telling them now to change allegiance once again and pledge yet another oath to the Tyrells would get you killed for sure. "Look, if this is gonna happen, then you need to do it" You sighed, fidgeting with your reins. "I can't risk getting stabbed again. I just can't. Not for you" His expression went from disappointed to pained by your last words. It was like he only then realized he had let you down in the worse way after you had literally taken a knife for him. Like he finally understood how much he had hurt you. On one hand you felt satisfaction to see him get even a small portion of the pain you had felt. But on the other hand, the part of you that still loved him ached from the mutual suffering that was happening right now. In any cases, he had deserved your words and their harshness. It didn't mean, however, that you enjoyed it. You had never been a cruel person, and you wanted to think you'd never be one. "Fair enough" He muttered dejection in his voice. He began to turn his horse toward the camp, but he paused mid way. "For all it's worth, I'm sorry. I'm terribly sorry about everything I did to you, and everything I didn't because I was a coward. I can only hope one day you will find it in you to forgive a complete fool, but I won't hold it against you if you can't" Tears welled in your eyes at his apology. He seemed so broken at the moment; it almost made you forgive him on the spot. But you remained strong and held eye contact, chin high and shoulders squared. "I guess I just wanted you to know I do love you, and that I have no excuse for not realizing it sooner" He added, making you choke on air. You once again almost lost your composure, but held it together by some miracle. "I'm sorry, (Y/N)" "You should go gather the men now" You spoke up, trying to cover up the shakiness of your voice. "I'll wait here" It wasn't the answer he expected, but he nodded nonetheless, head low in defeat. He galloped in direction of the camp, and only when you were sure he was far enough, let the tears fall down your cheeks. You had been waiting years for that confession, so why did it feel like you had been stabbed all over again?
#justauthorings14kspecial#jaime lannister#jaime lannister x reader#jaime lannister imagine#game of thrones#game of thrones imagine#GoT#GoT imagine
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Dropping Benjen and adding:
Jarrett Frey is an imagining of one of Danwell Frey’s stillborn children if one had lived.
He is a Grandson of Waldar Frey and born in 272 AC and is about 28
He’s a knight and also scoured the seas as a pirate on and off and was a first mate before he went back to land shortly as his kin are being killed off (or all slaughtered in show verse)
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So I've been thinking a lot about House Whent based on conversations with @racefortheironthrone on his upcoming “Bran II” CBC. House Whent is confusing, because we have a good number of House members but not a lot of information on how they all fit together. Nevertheless, I decided to create a proposed (emphasis on proposed) Whent family tree to use as a working model for future meta thoughts/fics. I mean, this is as much fic as it is meta anyway - actually, probably more so - so take that for what it's worth.
So, here’s the family tree I came up with. It’s built on basically four, I think reasonable assumptions:
There were three successive Whent rulers of Harrenhal after the Lothstons. This assumption is supported by the career of Ben Blackthumb, whom Gendry reports “[s]mithed for Lady Whent and her father before her and his father before him, and even for Lord Lothston who held Harrenhal before the Whents”. I also think it not impossible that over a period of roughly seven decades (from the time Maekar I gave it to the former landed knight House Whent sometime in the 220s - and probably later in the decade, to have Ben still around to smith - to the death of Shella in ~300 AC), there would have been just three rulers.
Shella was a Whent by birth and Lady of Harrenhal in her own right. Again, Ben Blackthumb's history with Harrenhal, specifically citing the father and grandfather of Lady Whent, strongly indicates that this is the case. It also explains why Shella continued to hold Harrenhal in her own right in the main series, despite having a husband styled “Lord Walter”. Speaking of which ...
Shella was married to Walter to keep Harrenhal with House Whent. It is a sad but true fact of the series that in Westeros, a woman who wishes to rule in her own right has a far more difficult time asserting her right to do so than a male counterpart. This would have been no less true of Lady Shella, who was not only the heiress of a House whose lordly honors went back only two generations, but had succeeded after the last Lady of Harrenhal, Danelle Lothston, had supposedly gone mad and turned to the black arts. If Shella married her cousin Walter - the most senior male descendant of First Lord Whent - not only would these potentially competing claims be combined, but Harrenhal would stay in firmly Whent hands. This in turn explains why Walter is styled “Lord Walter” in various sources: although he ruled in right of his wife, Walter enjoyed the benefit of being a highborn man in a highborn man’s world, and I think patriarchal Westerosi society would have simply assumed that he would be running the affairs of Harrenhal. (I sense a parallel to, say, the Hayfords calling little Ermesande’s husband “our lord Tyrek”.)
Minisa Whent was Shella’s sister. There is no direct evidence for this, but their children seem to have been very roughly of an age (all four of Shella’s sons were knights in 281 AC, while the “fair maid” seems to have been around or just under Lysa’s age), and I think it fits nicely with Hoster’s marital ambitions. By marrying the younger sister of the heiress to Harrenhal, Hoster Tully could not only establish close ties with his greatest vassal family, but also put himself in a perfect position to snatch up Harrenhal if Shella proved as bad a ruling lady as Danelle.
As for Sarya and Wynafrei, I think it makes sense for them to be of the same generation (technically, I think Oswell was older than Sarya, but for some reason the family tree put her as older and I didn’t feel like it was so essential a point to delete everyone of that line and redo it). Both seem to have married their Frey spouses in the 270s (Alyssa Blackwood, the wife immediately preceding Sarya, died sometime after 269 AC, while Bethany Rosby, the wife immediately after Sarya, gave birth to her first child with Walder in 278 AC; Danwell, meanwhile, was born sometime between 252 and 261 AC, so the 270s seem a likely era for him to wed), and I like to think that perhaps the Whents made it a double wedding. If Danwell, only the eighth son of Lord Walder, were to have a bride of House Whent - a new lordly House, but not too new by the 270s, and certainly far greater than the Freys - then perhaps the Whents insisted that Walder make Sarya Lady of the Crossing.
I think this family tree also nicely explains Ser Oswell joining the Kingsguard. As the younger son of a junior branch of House Whent, with his brother and sister-in-law/cousin producing four male heirs who would presumably have sons of their own, Ser Oswell’s dynastic prospects were probably not terribly high. As kin by marriage to the Tullys, however, and a grandson of Lord Whent, Ser Oswell had more than suitable credentials for a white cloak.
Again, this is as guesswork as anything. But until we get more information, I’m sticking with it.
#house whent#headcanon#shella whent#walter whent#minisa whent#oswell whent#sarya whent#wynafrei whent#ruling ladies
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Grassroots justice
Not quite sure where this is going, but I want to do a little thinky on the role of the smallfolk in the Riverlands situation. Start from this conversation here:
Jaime pulled back his golden fingers and turned once more to Lady Mariya. “How far did Black Walder track this hooded woman and her men?”
“His hounds picked up their scent again north of Hag’s Mire,” the older woman told him. “He swears that he was no more than half a day behind them when they vanished into the Neck.”
“Let them rot there,” declared Ser Kennos cheerfully. “If the gods are good, they’ll be swallowed up in quicksand or gobbled down by lizard-lions.”
“Or taken in by frogeaters,” said Ser Danwell Frey. “I would not put it past the crannogmen to shelter outlaws.”
“Would that it were only them,” said Lady Mariya. “Some of the river lords are hand in glove with Lord Beric’s men as well.”
“The smallfolk too,” sniffed her daughter. “Ser Harwyn says they hide them and feed them, and when he asks where they’ve gone, they lie. They lie to their own lords!”
“Have their tongues out,” urged Strongboar.
“Good luck getting answers then,” said Jaime. “If you want their help, you need to make them love you. That was how Arthur Dayne did it, when we rode against the Kingswood Brotherhood. He paid the smallfolk for the food we ate, brought their grievances to King Aerys, expanded the grazing lands around their villages, even won them the right to fell a certain number of trees each year and take a few of the king’s deer during the autumn. The forest folk had looked to Toyne to defend them, but Ser Arthur did more for them than the Brotherhood could ever hope to do, and won them to our side. After that, the rest was easy.”
Martin, George R.R.. A Feast for Crows (A Song of Ice and Fire, Book 4) (p. 510). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Here’s Jaime’s framework for pulling the rug out from under outlaw bands: both outlaws and nobles are dependent on the smallfolk. Nobles tend to think it’s the other way around, but realistically, the nobility needs to have a reliable population of commoners to grow their food, make their clothes, and maintain their castles. Many nobles are so accustomed to the smallfolk giving them tireless productivity and unflagging loyalty, they don’t see how their lifestyles depend on the common people far more than vice versa.
Meanwhile, outlaw bands also cannot exist without the peasantry on their side. Outlaw bands tend to be poor on infrastructure, liquid assets, and other resources. Their combat style relies on subterfuge rather than brute force. Common households give them hiding space so they can escape detection and capture by the nobles’ knights and men-at-arms. Commoners feed them so the outlaws can approach the nobles on their own terms. To neutralize the threat posed by outlaw bands, the nobility needs to have the peasantry on their side.
That’s where Jaime comes in and says: you don’t brute-force the peasants’ loyalty. The way to deny the outlaws their support system is by being nice to the smallfolk. Not just nice, but respectful. Ser Arthur Dayne was generous and communicative with the people supporting the Kingswood Brotherhood. He made them feel heard and appreciated. He showed them that the crown would allow them greater security and prosperity if they supported the crown’s interests. Without the shelter, food and discretion of the smallfolk, the Kingswood Brotherhood were vulnerable and easily defeated.
For a little digression, I want to ask: can anyone imagine Tywin Lannister taking this approach to law enforcement? Lord Tywin, the one who arranged the gang-rape of a young girl because she had the cheek to give her love to his son? Jaime had to learn that from Ser Arthur, and only when his father was far, far away, because Lord Tywin would’ve washed his mouth out with soap.
That much aside, if we look at Jaime’s leadership in his Feast/Dance arc, he’s already taken an interest in playing nicely with the smallfolk. He orders his soldiers to stay out of the fields, he has them stay in the village and use their own provisions at Pennytree, for example. He also executes one of the Mountain’s guys (ergo the crown’s forces now) for merely attempting to rape a serving girl. By demonstrating to his soldiers a zero-tolerance policy on rape, he’s making the women of the Riverlands much safer.
He doesn’t think of this as the way to disempower the outlaws, though. The fields are off-limits and the villagers’ pantries remain untouched because the commoners need to eat. The attempting rapist has to die because girls like Pia shouldn’t have to deal with that shit.
However, this is not to say Jaime doesn’t respect the danger posed by outlaws in the Riverlands. He’s not about to be lax with security at Castle Darry:
The castle gates swung open slowly. “My coz will not have room to accommodate a thousand men,” Jaime told Strongboar. “We’ll make camp beneath the western wall. I want the perimeters ditched and staked. There are still bands of outlaws in these parts.”
“They’d need to be mad to attack a force as strong as ours.”
“Mad or starving.” Until he had a better notion of these outlaws and their strength, Jaime was not inclined to take any risks with his defenses. “Ditched and staked,” he said again, before spurring Honor toward the gate.
Martin, George R.R.. A Feast for Crows (A Song of Ice and Fire, Book 4) (p. 502). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Again, it’s not a matter of brute force, it’s about the balance of risk and benefit. Widespread hunger makes the army’s work more difficult. And he understands that his father’s warmongering has left a lot of Riverlanders with little to eat.
Not that the Lannisters are all alone in taking food out of peasants’ mouths:
“Can we starve the castle out?”
Ser Daven shook his head. “The Blackfish expelled all the useless mouths from Riverrun and picked this country clean. He has enough stores to keep man and horse alive for two full years.”
Martin, George R.R.. A Feast for Crows (A Song of Ice and Fire, Book 4) (p. 555). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Here’s the contrast between Uncle Brynden and Lord Edmure Tully: when Edmure has frightened smallfolk, he brings them into the castle. Catelyn thinks it’s sweet of him to have that impulse, but when a castle is about to be under siege, you don’t want to increase the ratio of warm bodies to food stores. Then we have Uncle Brynden the Blackfish, who chases the inessential folks out of the castle AND scours all the spare food stores from the countryside to keep the castle out of the Freys’ hands.
In terms of giving the middle finger to the Freys and Lannisters, Uncle Brynden knows what he’s doing. In terms of maintaining relations with the smallfolk, though…the peasants don’t care about which family holds Riverrun nearly as much as they care about how they’ll feed their kids through the winter. When they’re going hungry, they’ll remember who emptied out their pantries. Jaime seems to think their chances of capturing the Blackfish are slim following the Riverrun surrender, and that may be true, but at the same time, I’m not sure how far Blackfish will get in a countryside that he made sure to pick clean of food.
And I don’t think the Freys are making themselves any more popular with the peasantry, either, but they’re not the ones who took the bread off hungry Riverlanders’ tables. Just sayin’, the smallfolk may not be real invested in the position of House Tully in the near future.
Surely, there’s a reason for Feast/Dance having so much to say about the realm, especially the Riverlands, going hungry following the war. Maybe it’s simply GRRM’s way of showing us how the Riverlands are a tinderbox and it’s about to get very ugly very soon. That much may be true, but then so much of our data on the Riverlands situation comes to us through Jaime’s consideration for the smallfolk. The part where he advises Ami and Mariya on how to keep the smallfolk on their side, especially, is noteworthy.
Will any of this play a role in Brienne and Jaime’s conflict with Zombie Catelyn and the Gang? I’m not sure what, if any, that role would be. I think it’s a factor that should be kept in consideration, though, until we get TWOW. They’re dealing with outlaws, depending on smallfolk, and Jaime has some well-tested ideas about how to interact with outlaws and with smallfolk.
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Hi! How are you? I don't remember well but is it mentioned in ASOIAF that Nymeria &the wolf pack are hurting smallfolks/travelers or hunting their cattle? I could be wrong but the wolves are seen as menace by some dwellers&travelers? I think there was something in Brienne's POV in Feast but I'm not sure. Would be grateful if you could comment on that
Hey Anon! I am doing well, thank you so much for asking :)
From what I can remember, I think there are four instances like what you are specifically referring to where POV characters hear/are told about a direwolf pack causing trouble.
1) Arya hears about a wolf pack led by a huge female wolf during her march north with Yoren in ACoK:
“It’s been a bad year for wolves,” volunteered a sallow man in a travel-stained green cloak. “Around the Gods Eye, the packs have grown bolder'n anyone can remember. Sheep, cows, dogs, makes no matter, they kill as they like, and they got no fear of men. It’s worth your life to go into those woods by night.”
“Ah, that’s more tales, and no more true than the other.”
“I heard the same thing from my cousin, and she’s not the sort to lie,” an old woman said. “She says there’s this great pack, hundreds of them, mankillers. The one that leads them is a she-wolf, a bitch from the seventh hell.”
(….)
The man in the green cloak said, “I heard how this hellbitch walked into a village one day … a market day, people everywhere, and she walks in bold as you please and tears a baby from his mother’s arms. When the tale reached Lord Mooton, him and his sons swore they’d put an end to her. They tracked her to her lair with a pack of wolfhounds, and barely escaped with their skins. Not one of those dogs came back, not one.”
— ACoK, Chapt. 5, Arya II
2) The example I think you were referring to in AFfC, where Septon Meribald tells Brienne about a great pack of hundreds of wolves led by a “monstrous she-wolf, a stalking shadow grim and grey and huge” (aka NYMERIA AF!) seen around the Trident:
“Dog keeps me safe upon the roads, even in such trying times as these. Neither wolf nor outlaw dare molest me when Dog is at my side.” The septon frowned. “The wolves have grown terrible of late. There are places where a man alone would do well to find a tree to sleep in. In all my years the biggest pack I ever saw had fewer than a dozen wolves in it, but the great pack that prowls along the Trident now numbers in the hundreds.”
“Have you come on them yourself?” Ser Hyle asked.
“I have been spared that, Seven save me, but I have heard them in the night, and more than once. So many voices … a sound to curdle a man’s blood. It even set Dog to shivering, and Dog has killed a dozen wolves.” He ruffled the dog’s head. “Some will tell you that they are demons. They say the pack is led by a monstrous she-wolf, a stalking shadow grim and grey and huge. They will tell you that she has been known to bring aurochs down all by herself, that no trap nor snare can hold her, that she fears neither steel nor fire, slays any wolf that tries to mount her, and devours no other flesh but man.”
— AFfC, Chapt. 25, Brienne V
3) Danwell Frey complains to Jaime about the growing number of wolves in the Riverlands in AFfC:
After the toast Lady Amerei stopped weeping and the table talk turned to wolves, of the four-footed kind. Ser Danwell Frey claimed there were more of them about than even his grandfather could remember. “They’ve lost all fear of men. Packs of them attacked our baggage train on our way down from the Twins. Our archers had to feather a dozen before the others fled.” Ser Addam Marbrand confessed that their own column had faced similar troubles on their way up from King’s Landing.
— AFfC, Chapt. 30, Jaime IV
4) Also in AFfC, Ser Dermot tells Jaime about finding hundreds of wolves near Riverrun led by a “she-wolf of monstrous size” and Jaime ~specifically~ wonders if it could be Nymeria:
The next day Ser Dermot of the Rainwood returned to the castle, empty-handed. When asked what he’d found, he answered, “Wolves. Hundreds of the bloody beggars.” He’d lost two sentries to them. The wolves had come out of the dark to savage them. “Armed men in mail and boiled leather, and yet the beasts had no fear of them. Before he died, Jate said the pack was led by a she-wolf of monstrous size. A direwolf, to hear him tell it. The wolves got in amongst our horse lines too. The bloody bastards killed my favorite bay.”
“A ring of fires round your camp might keep them off,” said Jaime, though he wondered. Could Ser Dermot’s direwolf be the same beast that had mauled Joffrey near the crossroads?
— AFfC, Chapt. 44, Jaime VII
As far as commenting on it, I suppose it depends on what you were looking for; but here are my thoughts for what they are worth… I definitely think the “giant she-wolf” is Nymeria, and that she is the alpha of the pack people have spotted. I also think it’s particularly important that not only have other characters besides Arya seen and mentioned the direwolf, but that Nymeria and her pack are doing something distinct and notable: causing problems in places, and for people, who are affiliated with enemies of the North and anti-Stark forces.
I think there is some really clear and heavy symbolism present that could be indicative of Arya becoming “alpha” of her own “wolf pack,” and potentially becoming a leader/commander of some form of Stark/Northern forces. Nymeria’s namesake was a warrior queen, a skilled general and fierce commander, who led her people on a dangerous journey to safety in Essos after the Rhoyne was conquered by the Valyrian Freehold and their dragons. Nymeria of Rhoynar also played an (obviously) integral role in Nymeria’s War, the campaign where she and her husband, Mors Martell, conquered the various kings of Dorne and united the land under the rule of their combined house, House Nymeros Martell. Now Nymeria the direwolf is also a strong leader and the commander of her own forces, the wolf pack. There is so much about leadership, loyalty, courage, and the “strength of the pack” woven into Arya’s narrative. Additionally, her time with the Faceless Men has taught her so much about discipline, strategy, and resourcefulness, and has helped her to really hone her mental dexterity. I could definitely see all of this as foreshadowing for Arya becoming an effective and formidable leader/commander in her own right.
I also think it’s more than possible that, like Nymeria, Arya will raise a little hell for enemies of House Stark and the people who betrayed her family.
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Wives of Lord Walder Frey
Perra Royce, first wife of Lord Walder Frey. Mother of Stevron, Emmon, Aenys, and Perriane Frey.
Cyrenna Swann, second wife of Lord Walder Frey. Mother of Jared Frey and Septon Luceon.
Amarei Crakehall, third wife of Lord Walder Frey. Mother of Hosteen, Lythene, Symond, Danwell, Merrett, Geremy and Raymund Frey.
Alyssa Blackwood, fourth wife of Lord Walder Frey. Mother of Lothar, Jammos, Whalen, Morya and Tyta Frey.
Bethany Rosby, fifth wife of Lord Walder Frey. Mother of Perwyn, Benfrey, Willamen, Olyvar and Roslin Frey.
Sarya Whent, sixth wife of Lord Walder Frey.
Annara Farring, seventh wife of Lord Walder Frey. Mother of Arwyn, Wendel, Colmar, Waltyr, Elmar, and Shirei Frey.
Joyeuse Erenford, eighth wife of Lord Walder Frey.
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