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Rant about Caleb's Main Story Line
he may be my main, but that does not mean im not allowed to point out my concerns regarding on how his character is presented to us by infold. slight spoilers under the cut but i will try not to.
alright this is my first time doing a rant publicly so bear with me TT TT
as much as i love Caleb, the story progression we have with him is questionable at first and a bit hard to really get invested in. for me at least, thats what i experienced. the first time i went though his main storyline and his myth, i was left confused in some parts and a bit detached to him. but after some replays, that detachment i had slowly vanishes (maybe its bcus im too far gone and cant really bring myself to dislike caleb TT).
my confusion mostly stems from the awkward goodbye he had with MC at the end of the main story, his crash out (that i now hold dear to my heart TT TT), and the fact that MC just accepts that he's alive without any hint of anger. like cmon, MC was literally working herself to death as a coping mechanism bcus of his "death", dont you think she wouldve, i dont know, hated him a bit for making her so miserable for a year?
to be completely transparent with you, screw that cliffhanger, that was absolute trash >:(
i think they shouldve released 3 chapters for them (the writers) to actually tie up the lose ends that was still clearly visible.
cuz aint no way theyre in good terms again after what just happened (and they were close again in his myth, which took place after Homecoming Wings like- ???). its confusing, and i can see why some people are left with disatisfaction on how things were wrapped up.
but after reading his cards, his anecdote, his secret times, and his interactions in his cafe, some of my grievances about him were a tad bit alleviated. a shame really, that it has come to that.
they slayed with his cards tho so i gotta give them that.
im really hoping that they straighten things up with whatever is going on between these two idiots. cuz as much as i commend them (infold writers) with actually presenting Caleb, all wrapped up in yandere-coded gift paper, the vibes are off and shit's all over the place yknow? they gotta clean that up
i also think that they shouldve put more cinematics in and less text boxes to actually tell the story properly. cuz some of the scenes didnt really work...? bcus it was reduced to just dialogues in boxes. give us more movement. this is the main story for crying out loud infold, you cant just treat it like how you would with a 5 star memory?
feel free to disagree or agree with me, its alright. i think its best and healthy to have discussions instead of arguments about stuff like this once in a while.
#i still love him though#infold just have to write his story better#i see people that used to like him deviate into disliking him bcus of homecoming wings#gotta be honest. i too got scared bcus of his tendencies but after replays it just grew on me#cuz now it makes sense. i just cant explain it why it does but it just clicks#lads caleb#love and deepspace#xyz ✈︎#drel's nonsense
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okay, okay, okay, bear with me
mobei jun already knows about shang qinghua as airplane
oki ive decided to take advantage of the fact that WE NEVER GET A MOBEI JUN POV AND I'LL BE FORVER SALTY ABOUT THAT SHIT
but like, shen yuan figured airplane out REAL fast, right? they barely spent time together before the immortal alliance and then it takes one surprise before airplane is saying stupid shit, right?
and i cant help but think, mobei jun aint dumb and he's been spending How Many Years crashing at shang qinghua's leisure house whenever the fuck he feels like it?
he also finds shang qinghua to be Hella Sus because come on, ofc he does. a human just declares their undying loyalty to you after one fucking meeting??? even if he believes shang qinghua is being sincere in the moment, the fact that he was so quick to betray his sect doesnt speak of a loyal servant
so why wouldnt he snoop? why wouldnt he pay extra close attention when shang qinghua says shit that doesnt make sense? why wouldnt he notice when shang qinghua speaks or writes in a language that he doesnt recognize? airplane canonically isnt fluent in english so if he used a bit of it, especially chinglish, wouldnt mobei jun be able to learn some of the meanings of the words just by context clues? especially when he has YEARS to decode it? like if airplane was fluent, maybe he could hide the meaning, but a limited vocabulary adapted to another language isnt actually super hard to decode. it's the same reason that you can generally understand what slang means before you look up the definition. you might not know what 'rizz' means, but you can pick up the meaning from context clues.
anyway im over explaining the linguistic aspects ALL IM SAYING IS what if airplane kinda depends heavily on chinglish to be his Secret Language that Theres No Way That Anyone Here Can Get. and sure, for most people, it does seem like gibberish. but again, mobei jun has YEARS at his side and reasons to nitpick at it and decode it.
like what if airplane had a habit of writing out pidw plot points in chinglish bc look he is Going to forget shit no matter what, he wrote that novel a lifetime ago, but theres some info thats pretty important for him to Not Forget. so mobei jun is just left with a huge stash of Impossible Information that shang qinghua writes about
everything ranging from future events to obscure demon world facts that theres just no justifiable reason for shang qinghua to know about and just everything in between.
but also what if shang qinghua wrote his feelings? his thoughts? his issues? like cmon, he literally has NO ONE to consult with about the insanity of his life before cucumber-bro, and his life is really crazy, and he used to be the person who wrote out his feelings via novel but look dude he's not about to tempt fate by writing out another novel rn so a diary makes sense. or at least like, random venting
and again, this isnt even mentioning airplane having some potential verbal fuckups that mobei jun can add to his ever growing file of "shang qinghua has something fucking going on"
and like, maybe mobei jun hasnt actually figured out the exact truth but he has some eerily close guesses. or maybe airplane wrote a lengthy journal explaining literally his entire fucked up life and mobei jun knows Everything.
look im just a little bit obsessed with mobei jun casually being aware for YEARS that shang qinghua is from another world and might have once had god-like powers over this world. i think this is very funny and i think it could work in a canon compliant way. cuz i also like to think that some of mobei jun's aggro at shang qinghua was a mixture of
you literally wont tell me who you really are. you claim to be my loyal subject but you wont even tell me your real name and Yes I'm Upset About That
you fucking fucker, you literally PLANNED that horrible event to happen???? you suck so bad omfg. THAT WAS TRAUMATIZING FOR ME YOU JERK NO I DONT CARE IF YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT IT NOW
your handwriting sucks and im mad that i didnt just have to decode your weird other language, i also had to decode your fucking horrendous handwriting and i dont know if i can ever forgive you for that
you barely ever show your real personality in front of me and i have to learn how you really feel by reading this fucking notes and YES IM UPSET ABOUT THAT
i also just love the idea of Something Happening to do with the multiverse and basically mobei jun is the only one who isnt remotely surprised lmfao. binghe is in crisis mode, cucumber thinks he's gonna die, airplane is freaked out, and mobei jun is just like "yeah, figured some dumb shit like this might happen. you didnt know binghe? dont you pay any attention to your husband :/ dude, they're not even good at hiding it, i thought you were supposed to be smart"
also the simultaneous heartattacks that cucumber and airplane would have that mobei jun just KNOWS like thats hilarious. imagine they need to talk about something secretly in public and its super urgent and mobei jun just starts using chinglish or webspeak or something perfectly and cumplane are FREAKING THE FUCK OUT
mobei jun: that mofo is hella sus, but keep it on the dl. ttyl i need to do a vibe check
cumplane: ?!?!?!?!?!?
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EPISODE 6: RETURN OF THE JEDI
Is it just me or have they just not explained the Death Star properly?
I cant take Darthy seriously anymore, he’s just a bag of organs
Whats quirrel doing here
OMG ELEPHANT SNAKE IS BACK
Isnt this that old caterpillar from Alice n wonfderlad
WOW LUKE REALLY SUITED UP FOR HIS MESSAGE- DID HE JUST SELL???? GOLDENFACE AN R2-oh right Hans in the carbon - way to go to the dark side Luke, triangular droid trade YOU ARE YOUR FATHERS SON LUKE
So much of Star Wars is just running into the problem with a glowstick and hoping it dies
Wow hansolo has been imprisoned, thrown into garbage, tortured, thrown into carbon, imprisoned AGAIN all cuz he has can’t shut my mouth disease
What even is their relationship with Luke btw, are they his adopted fWOAH WOAH WOAH WHEN DID LUKE TURN INTO A MAN??? Last I saw he was a child who couldn’t get a plane out of a lake AND THEY LEFT THE LAST MOVIE WITH ALL OF THTEM BEING TOGETHER wow the text in the beginning is more important than I thought
No seriously why is Luke dressed like a pastor whats going on
WOAH GOLD BIKINI LIEA - OKAY STORY TIME I USED TO WATCH PRINCESS RAP BATTLES AS A CHILD AND THE ONE I SAW WITH LEIA IN IT SHE SAID “I wore a gold bikini and the whole world lost its shit” ANF NOW I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS
Ok yoda we get it you’re 900 no ones talking about your wrinkles anyway with pastor Luke in the room, projecting much?
Is yoda suidicdal???
WDYM LUKE IS REaDY???? HE DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO BE READY EXCEPT FLY FACEFIRST INTO A MILITARY BASE HIS TRAINING ARC IS SO SHIT
Whos the other Skywalker?? lukes not even a Skywalker isnt his name Luke vader where’s skywalkers real son OH darthy’s deadname is skywalker
BABY WONKENOBIII IS BACKCKCKC-OMGWHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK WDYM LEIAS LUKES SISTER WDYM HE SUSPECTED THIS AFTER MAKING OUT WITH HER FIFTY BILLION TIMES??? WHAT THE HELL
??? HELLO>>??? WHAT TH EHELL??? WHAT IN THE GAME OF THRONES IS GOING ON??????? How is Leia a princess then?? HahahahaHAHAHA SO YODA KNEW …… ABOUT THEIR LITTLE TRIANGLE
Nice the gang is back together, waiting for chewbakka to be revealed as darthy’s next offspring
YES YES GOLDENFACE GETTING THE RESPECT HE DESEREVEVVES I LOVE GOLDENFACEEE
I cant believe these are the idiots the emperors trying to kill
"yes I could sense you were my brother when my tongue was down your throat"
Oh yes Luke hands himself over- haha darthy sensitive over dead name
Luke youre so stupid- but since jedis cant die is he gonna go to wherever yoda and obi wan is
Lando is growing on me, also squid guy
This movie is gonna end with emperor and Luke dead isnt it
Is the emperor a jedi too how else does he have power or something something Sith
Id make a horrible jedi- im made of hatred
Hansolo my pathetic little idiot
I JUST REALIZED WHO LUKE EP6 REMINDS ME OF - TROY BOLTON
IS HE BEGGING DARTHY TO KILL HIM WTF
You’re telling me this big of an empire cant take down 6 idiots lead by a happy go lucky guy, never heard of this before
OHMYGOSSDDHD. LYKE YOU IDIOT NOW HE KNOWS ABOUT LEIA
Hahahah a hand for a HAND- wait what…. Why does he have a robo hand too whats going on
Luke stop acting like you didnt hear about jedis 5 secs ago
Aw does darthy have a heart among his organs
OHMYGOD DARTHY IS A GOOD GUY????? ????? What A VILLAIN TTURNS GOOD ITS BEEN AGES SINCE I SAW A VILLAIN COME OVER TO THE GOOD SIDE
OMG DARHTY FACE REVEAL
Oh damn hes not as ugly as I thought he’d be
Kinda cute even - bro how did he even get this weak why’s he dying rn
He has such kind eyes
Yeah ok I am so lost I NEED DARTH VADER BACKSTORY RIGH FUCKIN NOW
Is the empire this easy to penetrate? No but they did it with the power of lOVE and FRIENDSHIP
Love lando
YES HAN THATS THE REACTION I HAD AN HOUR AGO ACTUALLY WTF
Yes Luke its so sad your daddy that blew up an entire planet in ONE second without a single thought died IM NOT FORGIVING HIM THIS EASY
No way thats it??? They took down the empire just like that???? What??
Damn no one in this world can dance
OHMYGOD ANAKIN???? HOW CAN HE SEE THEM NOW??? IS IT CUZ HES BETTER AT WEILDING THE FORCE
ok fine anakin is cute
(3/9)
#star wars#luke skywalker#cp2077#han solo#princess leia#r2d2#c3po#darth vader#obi wan kenobi#anakin skywalker#star wars review
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Hi there! I just stumbled upon your cozy blog thanks to a post mentioning that Viv will be working on a new series. ^^"
If it's true, then I'm worried just how she might do a terrible job especially since writing doesn't seem to be her specialty (like she's giving me Mindy Kaling vibes). She even announced planning to work on several more seasons of Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Shouldn't she at least finish both shows before even moving to other projects? 🤔
I also think in my opinion that she'd work best as a t-shirt graphic artist for Hot Topic 'coz most of her projects felt like a random showcase of her OCs from high school. They're also overly designed and her humor is rather too juvenile than hilarious.
Sorry for the ramble, I just like to share my thoughts out there.
Dont worry about rambling Anon, ive done my fair share and thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts.
I agree on so many aspects of what you said.
Viv shouldnt be making anything new without finishing the already tanking series' she has. Hazbin is only going to get worse [as seen from the leaks] and Helluva is losing the most diehard of fans, attention. she's sinking her career quicker and quicker. She can't write, and even admits that herself several times. She steals from smaller artists, refuses to credit her artists and employees, is constantly into controversy after controversy, She cant grow up.
Its funny how you mention she gives a Mindy Vibe and i TOTALLY see it. Mindy went on a tirade about how people were shitting on Velma and Viv does the exact same thing, istg those 2 must be sharing a braincell.
Also yes the Hot Topic thing, i have my own 2 cents to put in there.
i swear this has a point to it just stick with me here. If it doesnt make sense to you im sorry, im not the greatest at explaining things.
I grew up in the early 2000s and 2010s, so Hot Topic and Spencer's were major hot spots for me, and lemme tell you. In those times, HT and Spencer's wouldve laughed at Viv for wanting to sell her cheap ass merch there. In fact, most merch sold there now, wouldnt have been, but ever since the big boom of indie creations; these stores ended up with different purposes.
HT never used to be a online merch store for indie creators, it used to be an actual punk store for punk and alt teens. Same with Spencer's but it was more for adults. You couldnt find things that werent punk or alt in regular stores thats why you'd go to HT or Spencer's.
Thats where youd get your AOT merch, Black Butler, Supernatural, Addams family, Jack Skellington, Band shirts like Korn, MCR, BVB, and Splitknot were sold there.
But now, its HH and HB merch. Fnaf, [im a fnaf fan before anyone comes for for that] and sparkle bs.
You cant find the punk merch you want, cuz its being switched out for Vivs bullshit and being buried in the back storages until they start having major sales to just get rid of it.
Now Spencer's' is being turned into the New HT, and HT is being turned into the kiddie emo version of Claires. its so fucking sad to watch.
My point to all this is.
Viv didnt need to sell her merch in HT.
HT doesnt need to be selling her merch to kids.
Viv shows are not made for kids, but yet she sells her merch at a teen based punk store.
HT doesnt need to be pandering to every indie creator that calls them to collab or sell their shitty 40$ t-shirts.
Viv doesnt need more money.
HT and Spencer's need to get their shit together before they go fucking bankrupt and we lose the only 2 punk-alt stores to exist physically.
Last i checked, BlackCraft Cult doesnt have an in person store.
#fuck vivziepop#anti vivziepop#anti helluva boss#anti hazbin hotel#anon ask#helluva boss critical#vivziepop critical#vivziepop criticism#hazbin hotel critical#anti spindlehorse
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can you plz hate rant about the deadpool & wolverine movie… saw it last week and i didn’t like it all… very refreshing to see that someone shares my opinion lmao
i got u man👍 most of this was in my drafts from after the movie came out, but i just never got around to posting it. i added some other opinions ive had since then, tho theres still a lot ive said over the past month that ive totally forgotten about lol
the intro sequence was fucking HYPE‼️ but then, part way thru the movie, u realize....it doesnt ever hit that same mark again. WHERE TF WAS THE HUGH JACKMAN SONG THEY PROMISED? the trailers showed 95% xmen origins clips. the movie didnt mention it once. no the brothers line doesnt count. false fucking advertising. deadpools sexuality has been confirmed since 2014. and now, 10 years later, its still being reduced to gay jokes. and people still eat it up like its genuine rep.
that guy at the tva who’s whole punchline was that he likes men. why. in 2024. why is that allowed. his whole character was a gay joke. i mean so was deadpool, but this guys whole thing was. That. can i say homophobia? can i say i felt that? is that reasonable? this movie felt like a fundraiser for the future avengers movies to make up for all the recent flops.
i watched this shit twice and yea. i was right. the plot was half assed. once u watch it once, thats it. thats the fun. its all just cameos. the jokes didnt even make me laugh again, since it was majority shock based humor. my second watch thru i was trying not to fall asleep in my chair. the way it lacks plot isnt in the Not Coherent kind of way, but rather 'this couldve been a 40 minute monster of the week episode'....or maybe even a 2 episodes if they wanted to get freaky with it it just felt so separate from the rest of the movies, like it wasnt even a sequel.
literally, the movie begins with them abandoning the previous timeline and wade moving to a new ‘better’ one.....almost like hes moving over to a more sacred timeline.........separate from fox.........which is dumb af cuz the movie couldve been him accepting that whatever happens in ur life u cant go back and change, and u have to make due with the good u already have. the previous movie ended with him having a family, he didnt need a new one. i mean, they did that for logans 'learning moment', why wouldnt that also apply to wade? paradox literally says ‘hey we brought u in cuz the mcu is dying, so u should come over to the sacred timeline’ and then after he changes into his costume THEY CHANGE THE PLOT. THEY THROW THAT OUT. WITHIN MINUTES. now paradox is like ‘actually just your timeline is dying, and i wont elaborate on how that works. and also u dont get to go to the sacred timeline. and i hate you.’ WHY BRING HIM THERE AT ALL THEN IF THATS THE PLOT U CHANGED IT TO? ITS DOESNT MAKE SENSE. even if the plot was that he had to go to the sacred timeline cuz his own was dying, WHY WOULDNT HE BE ABLE TO BRING HIS FRIENDS?
what was the vanessa plot? they never explain why she broke up with him? theres like a tiny flashback where she says hes been distracted ever since he got rejected, rejected from what? clearly not the avengers, since that happens after she leaves him. so wtf was the motive here????? the cameos felt like props. especially the deadpool corps, which i feel like they didnt even skim a wiki article for. they just went off google images. which hurt me. cuz i reallyyyyy like those guys....in the comics, theyre a group of deadpools(consisting of lady deadpool, kidpool, headpool, dogpool, and deadpool), who in their first series save the multiverse from being destroyed(sound familiar?). theyre the GOOD GUYS. why tf would they hear cassandra nova say ‘hey im gonna kill the entire multiverse’ and go ‘alright sure whatever’. why were they in the void to begin with? how’d they get there? isnt the void just for movie continuities anyway? why was cassandra also there? how does the void work? why does the void exist? will someone please explain literally anything in this movie? why not have them come in later to save the fucking day instead??
oh lady deadpool...how they massacred ur character... OH KIDPOOL.....HOW THEY MASSACRED UR CHARACTER...... god speaking of that. cassandra nova had literally so much potential and they watered her down to just Evil Villain. she hasnt done much in the comics, but one the things she did in one them was using her powers for therapy on the xmen(which deadpool also made a cameo in). she sort of does this briefly in that one scene, but it was just so.....basic. bland. why was there no b plot with the rest of the main cast. did they think the audience doesnt watch these movies for them? cuz i sure fucking do. i was waiting for the continuation of colossus and wades epic romance arc. side note, the gay jokes in the previous movies felt even less queerbaity then these ones. this movies queerbaiting was just....sad. marketing queerbaiting. this movie WISHES it couldve been deadpool 2 levels of queerbait(shoutout to the extended sex mimicking scene set to In Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel)
did anyone catch at the end when deadpool was narrating and when he said ‘friends’ yukio and negasonic teenage warhead were on screen. did anyone see that. they disney gal paled them.
i know wade is supposed to be the Funny Guy but man. thats literally all he was this movie. the other ones has ANGST they had him be HUMAN while this one was like 'logan was mean to me one time ):' bro. what happened. where'd the writers go.
this wolverine was like. the wolverine 2014 wolverine. which is when fox wolverine started to lose character and just become grumpy and mean. hes also like that in Logan 2017, but the reason why this kinda attitude works in that one is bcuz hes old, hes fucked up, hes tired, and every fuck that comes outta his mouth he means it. and yet....still manages to experience other emotions. what a concept. ive read literal satire comics that understood his character more(shoutout to the What The--?! series). it just had me waiting for the 'gotcha! this wolverine is actually 3 dimensional!' but it never fucking got there. it was amusing in the beginning, but by like half way in, i did not give a single fuck about this guy. they tried to give him some emotional moment(like. the only emotional moment in the entire film) but it just...lacked the emotion. just 'heres my sad backstory. are u sad now?' and then they did the SAME THING AGAIN no we get it man u were at the bar instead of with ur friends and u went on a classic wolverine style berserker rage. why should we care tho?
i mean, sure, they could use the excuse of being in the type of depressive state where ur emotions numb out(speaking as a mfer with the came curse), and yea hes not the kinda guy to open up about his emotions unless he really trusts someone(which he would likely distance himself from forming connections with others after that kind of trauma), but with cassandra nova right there there was a missed opportunity for elaborating on that. for digging deep into his brain and telling why this fucked him up so bad. imo, if i were to write it, with everyone he gets close to he puts upon the expectation for himself that hes at fault for anything that happens to them. that he needs to be the savior, even in a friendship. to prove himself to be worth something. especially after a life of being convinced hes a burden by just existing as himself, he needs to have use in order to make up for the fact that hes Logan.
but whos going to save him? isnt he struggling too? whos gonna help you? looking at all the other logans across the multiverse, who is the wolverine? why do you keep falling for the same patterns no matter where you are and who you are? deadpool called sabretooth queen and she/her'd logan within like 5 seconds of eachother. that was pretty good ig
final verdict:
yknow. i think i get now the way fans reacted the way they did tho.
the other night i was rewatching the movie Hackers with my mom, saying that it was obvious the creators mustve known a lot about hacking in order to do such a good parody of it, out of love for the craft….but my knowledge of hacking is pretty minimal, so i have no actual fucking clue if that assumption is accurate or not. im just going off of a ton of references to hacking. for all i know, real hackers couldve hated this movie.
and thats how the average non comic fan saw this movie. they saw a buncha characters and references and thought ‘damn, they must really love the source material’ without knowing how much of a kick in the face it felt like to watch them get used and butchered like that.
#asks#deadpool and wolverine#well. here it finally is.#wade wilson#deadpool#wolverine#logan howlett#fuck it im putting it in their tags too HATERS RISE UP
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Cant believe people saw this and didn't find anything in it. Letterboxd reviewers i shant trust you again lmao
Anyway this shit was great. So many themes I enjoyed in this and fun theories I got out of what was left unsaid.
Let's start with dad. How many times has dad been to this little mountain resort? Whose to say. When dad meets our cuckoo specialist, dad has this strange expression on his face, almost like a struggle between a grimace and a smile before finally making a friendly remark.
When Gretchen first arrives in town, the woman comes to visit. Alma, the sister and as we later find out, one of the cuckoos, is with her surrogate mother (Beth) and dad so mommy dearest can't come to visit. Instead of watching from afar her darling daughter, she goes into the bathroom and tries to get in Gretchen's stall. Oh? Why is that?
Fast forward to the night Gretchen is biking home. Mommy dearest reaches out a hand to Gretchen while chasing her, easily could be to attack her. Could be.
Mom follows her to the hospital yet does not attack, only drawing nearer. She doesn't try to break the glass with super human strength. She just draws close to her.
Momma dear goes to Ed's car and flings Ed away. Obviously, she has the strength to flip the car if she wanted with Gretchen inside. But she doesn't seem to be hunting otherwise she would have tried to attack Ed instead of moving Ed out of the way. Mom reaches out to Gretchen with her horrible scream—or calling? Before getting shot at and runs away.
Gretchen is now in the lover's nest. And when momma dearest is caught by Gretchen, she does not attack. She also doesn't make her call. She doesn't need to as Gretchen isn't moving away from her anymore, isn't running away. Again, mother is shot off the scene.
In the hospital as Gretchen tries to escape with Alma, mother tries to follow the girls. When the shelves fall, mother escapes and searches desperatly for Gretchen, using her horrific scream. But she does not harm Gretchen. Nor attack her.
After Gretchen stabs mother and flees, she stops to watch as mother follows, reaching out, unable to make her horrific call anymore. Gretchen returns to the freshly made corpse and stares at features on mother's face that resemble her own.
As Alma is taken by Gretchen to freedom, she says with conviction that her sister will be okay.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
Let's back pedal to Alma. The doctor notes that the little girl has a striking resemblance to her surrogate mother, implying this normally isn't the case.
We also know there is some variation between the cuckoos and what they present like, and that the doctors have been working on making them stronger. In addition we know that their characteristics rapidly increase when touched by the mother.
Here's my theory. Long ago, dad met Gretchen's mother. They fall in love and move to America with baby Gretchen... a cuckoo who never ends up developing her cuckoo abilities like a recessive trait. Unknown backstory I wish to know.
Years later Dad meets Beth and goes to the mountains on their honeymoon and have Alma. Except Beth is of course the surrogate. Alma is a much stronger crop of cuckoo. Her vocal chords are cuckoo expressive even before meeting her mother, which causes her muteness. Again, they mention that cuckoos have basically been breeded for certain traits to strengthen them. It makes sense if Alma is more cuckoo expressive than... Gretchen.
Now my only question is, did Gretchen's surrogate mother actually die or was she abducted and brought back to the facility to repopulate her species? This could also explain why dad might come back to continue this project begrudgingly despite having initially run away to America. Is it possible Gretchen's birth mother was a cuckoo whose genetic makeup more resembled humans than the cuckoos and her own cuckoo development was long delayed without contact with her own cuckoo mother (cuz she moved to America)? And thus when she had Gretchen as a human would, Gretchen also did not develop cuckoo tendencies as she was conceived the human way? Idk. I just like the idea that Gretchen's birth mom wasn't dead the whole time and that cuckoo phenotypes could be recessive or even repressed until they get older. If this is true, I think the reason why the German guy doesnt care about Gretchen's life is because he thinks she is too human because she was conceived like a human. He doesn't realize mother still cares for her daughter even after she transforms into her cuckoo form. It also adds extra tragedy to Gretchen's kill of the cuckoo mother, the one daughter she had out of love.
That debate with the ex cop and Gretchen about Alma just feels more powerful if it comes from Gretchen knowing that Alma doesn't have to be like her cuckoo mom instead of just believing it strongly.
Which brings us to one of the most important elements of this story. The sister-sister bond. Alma and Gretchen come to rely on each other as sisters. Even when Alma is technically a monster, Gretchen still protects and cares about her sister. Is that alone not moving? We see Gretchen's empathy in an earlier scene too with the ex cop. As he sits across from her having recently killed someone, his head is down on the table. Gretchen reaches towards him for a long bit of silence and we're unsure what she's reaching for. Her hand goes over the knife and we think maybe she's going for it to protect herself. But then it goes past. Is she reaching for the gun? But no... she's reaching for his hand... to comfort him. I think this theme of empathy and caring is an important detail that frames how we should interpret the overall story, and force us to question the cuckoo's role in the narrative.
Really want to read the script just for a description of the body language. When mother cuckoo reaches her hand out, its not like an agressive grasp, but a pleading hand.
Lastly: I think Gretchen's relationship with her mother is very telling. She isnt over her death and speaks to her over the phone as if her mother were still alive, like shes clinging to her mother as she once knew her. The cuckoos form especially when the wig was taken off made me wonder if this is meant to be a metaphor for the monster that is terminal illness. The way terminal illnesses can transform the body of its victims into something unrecognizable and the fear that invokes in the people who love them. I think this too was a metaphor for grief. When Gretchen kills the cuckoo mother, I think metaphorically, she's letting go of her mother.
Idk I had a lot of fun watching the movie clearly. I found the idea of the monster seeking out love for her child instead of violence really compelling. And the affection between the sisters was also very sweet. Even when I know you're a monster, I still care about you. Just very precious. Definitly worth a rewatch just so I can feed my theory demons some extra food haha
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I'm SO here for your Balkan Dick Grayson takes! I was wondering how you feel about how DC writes or fleshes out Dick's Roma heritage. Are there particularly great moments of representation or particularly flop ones?
*starts shaking*
i honestly hate most of the writing. not only because they arent romani, i mean you can get some basic info about rom culture if you talk to romano people and i understand its a pretty closed culture (like fuck even though im part romani i still dont know most shit, although tbf rom people in turkey is p assimilated) so getting info might be hard, but FUCK dude they look at rom culture in an american pov and its like?????? why.
most rom people resides in balkans, and like bro even if you took some balkani culture to dickies writing or even in is living space itd make sense, since again, rom culture is p assimilated w the country they resides in. like even small things would be enough. a heavy velvety blanket w a tiger or a rose?? him sniffing bottles before drinking??? thats like the universel balkanian experience.
and weirdly enough i prefer the old stuff. like yes they were racist dont get me wrong but at least i was likr "aaah they are talking about it and dick is getting angry about the assumptions" aka that one god awful panel where bruce is like "ye ur kind is hot headed lmao" and dick is like "wtf" (i explain things great i know)
but now??? its used in an awful one-liner. and never referenced again. like what the actual fuck does "beautiful romani smile" means. thats. thats worse???????? thats so much worse than hotheaded cuz its used like "haha guys look i remembered dick is romani haha i know romani culture" and im like no????? shut the fuck up????
at least when people say rom people are hot headed i can be like "ye lmao we do start fights out of nowhere" and again ITS UNIVERSEL BALKAN EXPERIENCE. all balkanians have anger issues. we love chaos. but when its like "haha dick has a beautiful romani smile" im like "oh fuck off" cuz again, its such a narrow minded look at romani people.
i was gonna end it there but fuck it im not done.
rom people are stereotyped as "happy go lucky, have no worries even though the world burning, cant do shit unless a white person is guiding them, hot headed and potty mouthed". besides the last point this is the exact character assasination dickie got. they turned him into a romani stereotype because haha one trick pony robin. he used to be so much more but noo the writers cant actually handle a complex character so lets turn him into this rom stereotype, and say hes romani with a fetishizing ass line!!! i hate dc so much
sorry for long rant lmao im just. genuinely angry at this lmao
anw dick is balkanian now. i can handle mischaracterization of dickie but i will not handle americanization and frenchification of dickie
#again sorry for long rant this shit makes my blood boil#i guess im a hot headed roma hahahaha#ahaha#krilling myself
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I know you have plant lore but I need to know if you have animal lore too. I've known for a while that the Hend ranch is...well, it's a ranch. Ranches have animals.
The mainline Pokemon series loves to continue to dance around where any animal products other than milk and honey come from, and while I know Pokemon is moreso a species choice for Jarble rather than anything more concrete, it still does make me curious.
Are animals in the Jarble setting just normal real world animals? Are they *feral* Pokemon since all the Jarbled guys are anthomons? Are they Pokemon adjacent but in an evolutionary (irl definition of evolutionart) sense i.e. ask-scrafty?
Does Tucker see cows and oxen on the ranch and just nod his head? Is this a Goofy and Pluto situation?
*shoves a microphone in your face*
Your thoughts please I'm so normal about animals in Pokemon/Pokemon-adjacent settings and seeing how different people explain them.
SURE I'LL GIVE A LITTLE YAP 4 YOU I already did in discord but this is now the Public Version this version revised for the General Public
SO... For JarbleAU.... I wasn't sure what to do for a long time! Because I've done the animals VS Pokemon... Sentient VS feral... I've done pretty much every version of it for all of my blogs/stories. I had almost contemplated just "lol lab grown meat" and such because I didn't want to try and brace the subject again Cuz whenever I do I always get someone questioning it and whatnot When most of the time it is just a Goofy/Pluto situation and I have to use that one image from Gumball of "Don't think about it too much"
BUT for Jarble, I added the Imps. The Imps changed things. Because the Imps are considered "feral" creatures. Am I just going to have a universe with only 3 non sentient creatures?? That wouldn't make any sense. That would be like a HUGE deal then. I can't have Eden casually show SUPER RARE FERAL BEING THERE ARE ONLY 3 IN THE WORLD on a livestream. That would be like a huge in universe deal. SO... I had to make a decision. I had considered doing the "Sentient VS Feral" pokemon thing again. Much like how I do for Ask-Scrafty.... BUT.... Again I just am always iffy with too many connections to pokemon to Jarble. Despite everything. I know it's a pointless thing to stress over but what can I say, I be stressin. I can't have InternetStranger45 point at me again and go "UMMMM???" I cant do it man I CANT!!!
BUT ALSO ON THE OTHER END.... I did not want to add normal animals. Like I make this fantasy setting complete with ancient gods that literally alter your personality and core as a person... and then I'm just gonna have a like. Dog? I'm just gonna have a normal dog there?? No that's boring I don't enjoy it. SO.... I decided to make the wildlife fantasy creatures! NOT pokemon, but just... general fantasy creatures that resemble their animal species. Sometimes I might make them resemble pokemon species (Like how The Imps resemble The 3 Lake Guardians) but otherwise I wanted to make them separate creatures! "But jazzy... why keep the pokemon species but design all new fantasy creatures?" consider: I don't wanna. SO All Jarble wildlife will be fantasy based creatures! WILL there still be some awkward staring at a creature that is similar to you? Probably! BUT at least they will be a entire different species. That way it is... more akin to a Human viewing a Gorilla. Tucker can live in peace on a ranch knowing that he isn't entirely related to the cattle gkjadhgkjsd
THESE WILL BE GIVEN THEIR OWN POSTS BUT HERE A cow and a lizard!
#I toiled over what I should do about creatures for so long until I settled on this#but I drafted some designs just 4 eev because that is what friendship is for#JarbleAU#not art#text post
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Sorry bout this thing but I kinda wanted to tell my thoughts about your stuff. Im kind of hoping this will get drowned in your inbox honestly, since this is just a really long unsolicited rant of mine.
Sometimes when i scroll through your account and I encounter csa, incest and mentions of suicide in your posts I get uncomfortable but then I remember that one phrase that goes something like "Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comforted" and I just feel kinda bad bout myself.
When I was a kid my nannys bf forced me to kiss him in the lips whenever we met. I was 6. It was uncomfortable. I never did tell my nanny about it. My parents are both police people and my mother had long explained the concept of rape and how unconsensual touch is bad and you shouldnt allow that but something prevented me from telling anyone what was happening. I dont know why. I know they would immiedietly jail that guy if they did but somehow it felt like no one would believe me. I never told them until now, then when I was what, 6-8 years old? I cant even remember. Yeah somewhere around that, he molested me when my nanny was few feet away and asleep and for the next 4 years of my life i felt dirty. Desecrated. Stupid. I couldnt even look down at my naked body when i shower back then, but somehow I managed to trudge on living by trying to forget the fact it happened. Its been 8 years since Ive last seen him. Ive told anyone who I knew who doesnt care enough to be friends with me but cared enough to listen about it but my Parents are none the wiser and i plan on keeping it that way.
Also. Im a year away from being legal now. Ive thought about killing myself or just generally not wanting to exist anymore many times since then, cuz lifes equipped with motolov cocktails of "get fucked dumbass" and i somehow managed to get a coupon for at least a million of them.
(I hope that line made you laugh if you read this).
Coming back to the phrase i mentioned earlier, it feels weird whenever i feel something similar to the feeling of being triggered while looking at csa being depicted. By definition, i would be considered a victim, and id of course would be comforted by seeing similar experiences happen to people because relating to something usually induces a positive feeling. I dont. I see your art and it guts me. It guts me and the fact that it does also guts me, because what does that mean? I am supposed to be the comforted? Despite the fact that I was taken advantage of as a child and spent night after might thinking how stupid i was and why I let that happen to me even when I was equiped with the information that makes me less vulnerable than other children? So i do I correspond more with those who are defined as comforted then, was i not disturbed after all? Was i victimizing myself all along? Am I a bad person for thinking i was? No wait, that doesnt make any sense at all. Its all wrong. Why am I so guilty about this? Why am i subjecting myself to this?
And then it repeats.
I still go through your blog because well, i love tmnt, i love your artstyle, i love the way you tell stories, I love how you dont sugar coat csa, incest and other darker topics like body horror, erotism and sadism, i hate how much it haunts me, i love the fact i can relate, i hate how much you hurt them, i love the fact that you dont hold back, i love how you show the ugly sides of healing, i love how you depict how much people can change and struggle. Its comforting to me. Its discomforting to me. I stick hand into the fire knowing I would be burned, then I do.
And i like it. I like it somehow, like taking a nice smoke break when you have mild asthma, but like, better. Its a nice change of pace to feel so conflicted like this, its a nice change of pace to feel anything at all really.
But yeah. Tldr. Sorry for the trauma dump and your art makes me feel complicated. Its neat 👍
lot to reply to here! also, unfortunately for you, i check my inbox obsessively and dont get nearly as many asks as you seem to believe i do.
so firstly, no snappy saying is meant to encompass all of human experience, and you certainly shouldn't judge yourself for not fitting into it. easier said than done, i know, but still. i'm gonna try to address some things here, not gonna touch on all of it, but just know that i appreciate you sitting down to write me this.
(I hope that line made you laugh if you read this).
it made me smile, but i laughed at this, because it's a very sweet look into you writing this. puts into perspective how, even though this is public, it was written TO me. like a letter in victorian times or something. that's sweet, i like that.
and id of course would be comforted by seeing similar experiences happen to people because relating to something usually induces a positive feeling. I dont.
you're making a lot of assumptions here that are kind of wild in that "this thought process was clearly designed by your mind to upset you specifically" sort of way. I mean, would you say this to literally anyone else when they feel uncomfortable or triggered about viewing media that relates to their trauma? There's really no telling what a survivor will feel comforted by and you aren't Doing It Wrong by having a different reaction.
there's a reason i tag it as "csa tw" and that's so people can AVOID it as well as search it up.
how stupid i was and why I let that happen to me even when I was equipped with the information that makes me less vulnerable than other children?
i know you recognize at the end of the thought process that this is not true, but i feel the need to reiterate: there is no such thing as being less vulnerable than other children through your own actions. you can try to equip kids with knowledge that might protect them, but that doesn't make them any less vulnerable.
my dad told me about rape and molestation all the time, but he never accounted for the kinds of scenarios i was actually the most likely to fall victim to, partly because i don't think he actually knew much about childhood sexual abuse, and partly because he was more obsessed with the idea of me being kidnapped and raped/murdered than he was about forms of sexual abuse he'd consider more "mild"
No wait, that doesnt make any sense at all. Its all wrong. Why am I so guilty about this? Why am i subjecting myself to this?
i can't answer that one, unfortunately. personally, i like to feel gutted, it's cathartic to me. might be something like that to you, based on how you go on to describe it, but you might also be doing some kinda self harm.
I stick hand into the fire knowing I would be burned, then I do.
saaaaame. i triggered myself into a breakdown in class once cuz i'd been reading fucked fanfiction before class and i got SAD lol.
Its a nice change of pace to feel so conflicted like this, its a nice change of pace to feel anything at all really.
we are shaking hands over this.
anywho, no need to apologize! i am glad, if nothing else, to provide you with a strange and upsetting experience that is not entirely bad.
I really do adore hearing how my stuff makes people feel. it's like, a solid one third of the reason i do this. i still make stuff that doesn't exist to be shown off but WOW showing shit off and getting a response feels FANTASTIC. like, i'm in your head now!! you have been CHANGED by my ART. it's maybe the best part of being alive.
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destiel playlist !!! + song explanations . @smashstiel <3
downhill - lincoln
gonna be honest here i added it because in one episode sam said something similar to the lyrics and then it just evolved to be a destiel playlist even though uh
2. goodbye optimism - pedals on our pirate ships
honestly no clue but its a greaat song
3. i fought the law - dead kennedys
not even gonna show the lyrics bc its just an extremely dean song to me
4. instability - dragged under
5. cosmic meltdown - king mothership
:)) demon deal moment basically
6. youre wrong & im drunk - next attempt
another dean not destiel one bc that was still before i fully embraced it being a destiel one so its mostly dean now
7. ive been dead all day - bayside
and other stuff about god . so it had to be here sorry these explanations are shit i hope you get it
8. my darling dopaine - days n daze
THE song ever one of them at least .
dean with his thing about sacrificing himself ig!!!
9. alcohol and altar boys - bayside
kinda with the god thats wrong but imagine thats before dean knew for a Fact that god existed
10. wait - the dear hunter
INSANE good song. s1/early s2 dean. to me<3
11. ghost - the academy is...
god i love tai... so much william beckett love of my life i love tai
12. ive got all this ringing in my ears and none on my fingers - fall out boy
FALL OUT BOY CHEER AND CLAP FOR FALL OUT BOY!!!! theres a lot of fob here i love them sooo much holy shit
^ dean when he goes to sacrifice himself again
castiel when he was working with crowley maybe i cant remember what exactly happened there
13. killed by an angel - sunny day real estate
come onnn
14. how to slowly be replaced by pixels - happyhappy
brooooooo!!!! and also abt moving around with john and stuff theres an image limit but youll understand
15. let us burn one - chiodos
im gonna be honest i was really into chiodos then and it has a lyric about taking a soul away so it automatically went here
16. blood on my hands - the used
i love the used and i needed it here and also it makes sense but im not sure how to explain it. welcomee to my brain
17. heaven, iowa - fall out boy
i love fall out boy:) star crossed lovers forever :))
18. heaven's gate - fall out boy
yay ^_^
19. church hymn for the condemned - johnny hobo and the freight trains
the entire song but
20. 7 minutes in heaven (atavan halen) - fall out boy
bc i love fob and also bc dean as we all know does Great on his own
21. just one yesterday - fall out boy
22. love from the other side - fall out boy
23. would you be impressed? - streetlight manifesto
there waas a destiel thing here but since then i got into dbda and its such a dbda song to me now i cant remmeber why its here and cant even in theory say why by looking at the lyrics cuz its dbda
24. the sharpest lives - my chemical romance
mcr there has to be mcr. also
25. on the cross - the used
26. sold my soul - the used
27. sky on fire - sarah and the safe word
thats here because excuse me what is this . you cant convince me its a coincidence
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https://www.tumblr.com/damnfandomproblems/735911163883290624/responding-to-4420-a-lot-of-people-me-included
Hard agree with the first reply to this ask
But my question is(directed towards anon): why do you have to change a character in order to relate to them.
Also it really seems like you are just trying to make it seem like I'm against such people. Or even the identies or traits themselves. Which shouldnt need explaining that i dont, but here we are, i dont have a fucking problem with people with any such identities, and appearances. I dont have a problem with characters having such identities and appearances.
The problem does not lie in what is changed or added, but instead WHY it is changed or added to an already established character.
What it sounds like is that you (gen) are unable to relate to anyone who is in anyway different to you, does not meet certain standards or requirements, or cant fit into a box that you are able to understand and comprehend.
Like.. its no different from cishet people going "oh i dont relate to this character cuz theyre gay or trans, or not a vsco girl" or smth like that, and then changing the character.
I get it. These kinds of people arent the most popular, and are very rare in media(though are actually becoming increasingly more common). So you think you need to change existing characters to relate to them or be seen and included.
And ... Idk how to explain how damaging that way of thinking and treating others that way is. And you cant tell me its just characters because ive seen how queer people treat cishet people and characters. Like they are somehow lesser or boring.
And i saw how some people commented on my usage of "woke" i realize now that may have made me seem like the kind of person who hates those things, but im not, and it was more towards... Like how so many people in fandom engage in performative activism. They do all this stuff for praise and to seem like a better person. Thats what i mean by woke if that makes sense.
Like honestly i think itd be way healthier to make ocs/self inserts and draw or write them with characters being supportive or just... Acting normally. Which is already a thing. The selfship community and ocxcanon community is very much alive and it doesnt even have to be ship. i guarantee more people, even people who dont relate, would enjoy people making and including more ocs in fandom.
Also "inflammatory language" (or just how i speak when annoyed i suppose) seems pretty on par for a blog dedicated to people complaining about fandom sooo, gotta remember im a real human writing this and not some machine that'll write everything in the best way possible.
Posting since this is a response to a previous ask.
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For the character meme: beast wars dinobot
-cybertron-after-dark
hiiiiiiiiiiiii :)
How I feel about this character
Love Pink!
I think everyone's love for him was the reason why I decided to watch beast wars in the first place. And i almost quit the show after he died so i'd say i like him a normal amount (lie).
I have a love hate relationship with his design cuz its sooooo hard for me to draw like why did he do that he should have chosen something simpler.
His mannerisms and how tall he is makes everything in the show 10 times more funny(to me). ohhhhh I'm fixed on his voice and vocal tics it really does make him stand out from the rest of the cast.
He’s so mean too, a hating ass bitch, I can respect that. He’d be the best fast food coworker (he’d still work at popeyes!!). And sometimes he be loud and wrong, like ok CLOWN.
How do I say this nicely? Making fun of him is my favourite thing to do. Also since he is the fan favourtie (am i correct in assuming this?) everyone makes fire ass art involving him. always a treat, he never let me down.
All the people I ship romantically with this character
A good fight would make him hooooorny.
Tarantulas - one, I just think it's funny and two, that one episode when he was complimenting tarantulas's hunting skills?? Can you imagine them hunting things together??? I need it!! Dinobot in his evil cannibal twins era <3
Tigatron - uhhh the solitude uhh the warriors bond the best slow burn ever. They are opposites and dont understand each other at all. LITERALLY Law of the Jungle ep is just: tigatron doesn't behave the way DB wants him to so Dinobot is thinking “ *snorts* i can fix him!!”. It’s peak to me…
Tigatron so calm and wholesome, and Dinobot is…NOT pfttttt AHHH LIKE FIRE AND ICE FIRE AND ICE!!!!! They clash but go togetherrrrrr *sigh* who sees my vision 🥹
thats all my brain could come up with aack
My non-romantic OTP for this character
Cheetor and Dinobot lol hi grandpa take his ass to hot topic
My unpopular opinion about this character
Dinobot would not make a good leader. He’s not emotionally considerate and does not have the skills to “think past the battle”. He can fight, anticipate an ambush, command some soldiers but that's pretty much it.
Actual diplomacy, or caring about the health of his teammates? HA!
He constantly wants to abandon people, or overthrow someone, switching sides like crazy. Nigga never been loyal…and he likes to talk about his “honor”.
Now I really need some insight on what “predacon honor” is cuz wtf?? Rattrap was lowkey right, how could we trust him?
I was sad when he died but ion really feel like he needs to come back, you know? You could kind of sense that there was no direction the show could take his character.
And getting rid of him was the logical choice. He a lil self destructive and got some issues (that's why I love him) but after a while it got repetitive for me. I don't think this show was equipped to handle the characterization they were building up to so him dying was kinda a good thing dare i say.
He's a bottom 🏳🌈
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
More predacon interactions that hint at what his life was like before they crashed on earth.
The lil nuggets we get are so interesting to me, I need to see how the dynamics were before he ‘betrayed’ them.
He knows these guys so well im so madddd i missing out on all the dramaaaaaaa
i also wanted him to interact more with rampage...i cant explain it but....there's something there that needs to be explored
Eat more people
be weird
be a freak
Nerd out tenfold about history
Should have killed silverbolt whaaaa who said that
Thats all i can think of off da top of me headdd, thanks for the ask @cybertron-after-dark 💜
sorry for typos!
#bobs answers#bobs looseleaf#i hope none of my questions are answered in the comics cuz#that would be embrazzzzzzing#also the hottopic joke lives on#its all i can think about#you know i was talking about DB with someone today#so many silly jokes#all he know is honor. steal golden disc. eat hot chip and lie...#this look a lil long cuz im at the point where#EVERYTHING MUST BE ACCOMPANIED BY VISUAL AIDDD#was so tempted to draw DB as a lil emo dino but#next time....#next time kim....
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Wayward Waters Chapter 18
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Hello everyone! Chapter 18!
this Story contains Vore, Dont like dont read.
have fun reading!
and as always Reblogs are appreciated! (Also ASK’s are open so feel free to bother me!)
AO3 Link for those that prefer the layout there;
AO3 Wayward waters
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Walking back inside after this unusual conversation I kept an eye out for anyone really, be that Robin, Rikaad or any of the Halcyon crew that came with us.
While I did not see Rikaad I did see Robin talking to Ronan, both rambling about things,
probably cacti as that was the only common interest I knew they had.
Well nice to see they went along, Now where were the other two Crew members?
Walking outside into the needlessly perfectionist garden I saw Jamie perch on a fancy looking bench, digging grooves repeatedly into the wooden backrest.
“Jamie! Akeem! There you are!”
Jamie puffed up worse than a startled pigeon, claws digging even more into the wood.
“Calm down it's just me, and please don't scratch my face off”
Damn Jamie was really on edge, well no wonder when the entire island had seemed hostile.
Jamie blinked and then stopped the threat display.
“FUCKING SHIT! If i knew this place was like this i would have stayed home and bothered the other two while working!”
I flinched back a little at the volume, damn they had lungs.
“Uh, well i'm sure Rikaad is about to talk some sense into the people here, might take a while though”
Jamie just scoffed, walking sidewards to perch on Akeem instead.
“Yeah sure, as if that would undo the shit they already did, also do you really think people like that would just change their mind like that? And so fast? i'll tell you, they don't”
That I knew, I still didn't dare go alone to the town, or had actually been there aside from walking through with multiple people at once.
“I know, but at least some people are trying, so that's good right?”
Jamie just narrowed their eyes for a bit.
“Yeah sure, it's better than nothing, but it shouldn't have to be done in the first place, I hope we leave soon.
This place sucks, they don't even have the creativity for good insults! Which somehow makes it even more insulting? Aaarhgh!”
Yeah considering Jamie could swear like a, well sailor, it was not really a surprise they'd take bad insults as even more insulting.
“Well, I mean that says more about them than you? Like uh, if they cant even come up with a good insult they really are just stupid,
and it really shouldn't matter what they say cuz they're wrong anyway”
Jamie just stared unamusedly.
“Nice of you to try and cheer me up, but can it, i've heard that all before, but yeah it shouldn't matter but it fucking does, and they keep getting more stupid people to believe it as well.
Sure i can deal with one or two stupid people but if ten of those are after me i cant do shit either, and in the time you manage to explain to one of them why its wrong they get three more from who the fuck even knows where.
Worst of all is that in most places they face no consequences and that makes them feel like they are untouchable, and people like those do not like to have their worldviews challenged, absolutely complacent in their own ignorance to feed their stupid ego!”
It was a good thing that Akeem was made of stone as Jamie's claws scratched over the surface after the outburst.
But yeah, Jamie was right, it did look like that no matter where I went people did the ‘others’ and ‘us’ thing, though the only place I had not seen that was kariba Island, but that was probably mainly thanks to Cassidy and the self aware nature of the citizens.
“Well then i don't what to say, but i do know what it feels like to be the outcast, i still don't dare go near the town, i'm still afraid someone with a meaningless grudge will just backstab me and leave me bleeding in an alley or something”
Jamie stopped being so puffed up.
“Oh right, you're from the place that build this place, damn that must suck, i guess im just fucking tired of living in fear, in all honest i just want to maul someone, do you want to maul someone?”
While Jamie did have some points I absolutely did NOT want to maul anyone.
“I don't like violence, so id rather not”
Jamie scoffed.
“Well the entire existence of people like that is based on violence!
They want us dead simply for existing, and then cry when we defend ourselves! But i tell you you have to punch those people right in the face before they start getting more of them to wherever they are so they think twice about bothering you”
Valid advice, to anyone else.
I simply didn't want to hurt people, but i was sure as hell not gonna argue with Jamie about that now.
“I guess, though i'm not really the punchy type, but i do know people that are, and i have no doubt that Nea would do more than just punch”
I shuddered at the thought of what I heard rumors say about her, apparently she was quite merciless even to the people on her own team.
I was glad that she had decided to like me and not beat me up.
While I spoke Akeem had gently grabbed Jamie's face with his free arm, which somehow actually worked to calm them down?
I would not try that unless absolutely necessary, Jamie would shred me with those claws.
“I suppose we should all calm down for a bit, a hot head is not good at decision making”
Jamie bapped their spindly leg on his head.
“I know the only one allowed to get a hot head is you when you're standing too long in the sun, also next time it gets hot enough to do it do you think we can get Yamet to fry some eggs on your abs?
I'm pretty sure we forgot to put seasoning on them last time”
Of course leave it to them to try and fry eggs on a living statue because why not?
At least Jamie wasn't angry anymore, well, just less angry there was always some level of anger.
Though to be fair I hadn't even understood half of the things shouted at them.
Jamie hopped down from Akeem’s shoulder, perching on the bench again instead and grumbling.
“Half of these fucks would piss their pants if they ever met one of the Bigger Zoa’s anyway, not my fucking fault im tiny”
Tiny and filled with rage yes, also again that word, what the fuck was a Zoa?
“Uh, what IS a Zoa? I've heard someone shout it as we walked here and you just mentioned it again”
Jamie stared at me as if I was an idiot, which to be fair I sometimes was.
“I'M a Zoa dumbass, an Imik technically also? I think?
Hes Hybrid though, also Nymra is Zoa too”
“That explains nothing”
They stared with a deadpan expression.
“Zoa are the people that have animal traits, whatever those might be,
So things like Harpies, Avians, nagas and centaurs and so on are all considered Zoa, basically everything that's got a mix of Human and animal traits, I have my bird legs as you can see!
Imik got his fish scales and gills and Nymra is a Harpy, well i guess by that logic the fucking Kraken is Zoa as well”
They shrugged at that.
Huh, so Zoa was just a term for the ones with the animal traits?
“So it's just a word for people with animal traits?
Is it a mean thing to say or not? Also yeah if those guys had seen the Kraken they would have fainted for sure”
Jamie just tilted their head.
“Eh it's not a slur, not really at least, i guess it depends on how you say it, but then again i've heard people use weird things as slurs”
Yeah I was not about to ask about those.
Before anyone could say anything else Shalimar pelted something at Akeem and yelled, dragging a breathless looking Ronan by the collar.
He did not look like he was getting enough air.
“HEY THERE YOU ARE! The boss guy said he was gonna tell who's the new mayor tomorrow! Who do you think it'll be?”
She skidded to a halt maybe a few inches away from where Jamie was perched, receiving a hefty bap on the head from one of Jamie's spindly bird legs.
“We don't fucking know anyone here, why should we know?”
“I'm not asking you! I'm asking pointy ears here!”
She turned to me, clearly just wanting insider information ahead of time, probably to tease other people.
“What? No idea i don't know anyone here either, i didn't even know what Rikaad’s plan was coming here, go ask him”
“I already did! He told me to leave! Also my Dad is trying to catch me and send me back onto the ship, don't tell him I was here!”
With that she left, dragging Ronan still with her.
We stared for a few moments at where she disappeared.
“Well Ronan is gonna suffocate like that, if he does i want to be the new captain!”
Jamie proclaimed, standing straighter on the bench.
Oh so Ronan WAS the captain, well just because he owned the boat didn't mean he was good at being a captain, He got distracted pretty easily.
Akeem grabbed Jamie, their arms trapped at the sides.
“You would not exactly make a good captain either, i say we go and free him before he Does suffocate”
Jamie just huffed but ultimately let the stone man do whatever, Which in this case was to carry the Bird legged maniac after wherever the clearly hyper Shalimar went to help Ronan not get strangled.
To be fair there wasn't much one could do against the living statue, even swords couldn't scratch him and he had no problem tossing a full grown man twenty feet like he weighed nothing.
A good thing he was one of the calmer people in this rather hectic place.
“Donovan! Look!”
I turned around as I heard my ginger friend call me over, he was holding a bunch of flowers, ah he was making flower crowns again.
He stopped in front of me, holding up the brightly colored petals.
“They have so many flowers here! And most of them don't grow in Kamerasca! I wish I could bring them all back home!”
“Heh, if you take all of them the people here don't won't have any, but maybe you can get some seed packets and then try to make them grow back at home?”
“Ohh good idea! Maybe we can take some seeds directly from the plants here! Come help me!”
I let myself be dragged through the overly perfectionistic garden, Robin showing me how to get a few seeds from the plants that did have them this early before searching around the manor to see where all the gardening stuff was kept.
We also did find some beehives in the far back part of the garden, the little fuzzy insects buzzing around and not paying either of us any mind.
Though we still kept a respectful distance to the hives, really not wanting to be perceived as a sudden threat.
At the end of the day we had a total of maybe ten different flowers, not a lot but surely at least one would grow in the slightly colder climate of Kamerasca.
We also got called into the manor itself, nobody really deeming it safe to stay outside at night, especially for me considering my pointy ears.
Which was fair, I had seen how people reacted to Jamie, and if not for the Fae man putting his hat on my head I probably would have things thrown at me as well.
Hopefully he was able to find a name he liked.
Someone shoved us into a room all the way at the other end of the manor where barely anyone else was and I noticed that the ceiling here was pretty high up.
No doubt Rikaad had ordered for me to stay here in case I wanted to shift.
Did I want to shift? The last time I did I attacked a boat and lost a tooth.
The gap still felt weird and I was really glad that I had an extra pair that could replace the lost one.
Still, hopefully that would grow in fast.
I stared out the window for a few minutes before Robin's ginger hair appeared in the way.
“Are you okay? You've been, weird, is anything wrong?”
Well there were quite a few things, but i also did not want to worry him, especially not before sleep.
“It's just been a very weird week, and i don't like the gap in my teeth, i think i just need a break from the hectic stuff”
After this was over and we were back home I would definitely go into the forest and stuff my face into moss.
“Does the Ardua part of you not like the ocean? I mean it is more of a forest creature”
That was also a point, though how far did the Ardua mix with the actual me? I would have to ask Oakley that.
“Honestly? No idea, I'm just glad I know how to swim, maybe you're right though i do prefer solid ground to a boat by a lot”
On the mainland there was also a lot more space to do things than on the smaller islands here, not to mention I was not familiar with the environment here.
“I also like Kamerasca more than this, though they do have interesting plants here”
Suddenly he hugged me tightly, mumbling into my chest.
“I'm so glad you're okay, after you fell off i barely slept, i'm still afraid that i might wake up on the Victory Rose with you gone”
Oh, yeah he did see that pretty up close, no wonder that haunted his brain.
“Don't worry i'm still here, and I'm gonna make sure not to fall off again, yeah?”
He just mumbled something unintelligible.
“Want me to be fuzzy?”
He hummed an agreement and I had to pry him off before I could shift, the Ardua form just about fitting comfortably into the room.
Robin was immediately hugging my arm before I had even actually settled down, clinging to my arm as if I could disappear again.
Since he was clinging to my upper arm I couldn't exactly hug him, so instead I used my head to gently squish him, making him laugh.
“I'm not a pillow!”
I let out a huff and turned my head more, rapping the ginger with just enough pressure that he couldn't move away but still could shove it at my face.
“You are now!”
As far as I could see of him he had stuck his tongue out at me, shoving playfully at my face.
“Hahaha, come on! I'll end up drowning in all that fuzz!
And I managed to avoid that pretty good with water so far!”
Eh, it wasn't that much hair was it?
I lifted my head regardless and he slid down to the floor in a surprised heap.
Then I immediately put my head down again, trapping him again and he squeaked in joy, now trying to tickle the underside of my jaw.
It was not effective, the opposite really.
Apparently the cat part of this form was more integrated than I had thought, and I ended up purring loudly as Robin continued scritching at the thinner fur of my lower jaw.
He giggled and kept doing it, considering he had admitted in the past to liking the sound that was no wonder.
At some point he had slipped out from under my jaw and was instead shoving at my face again, trying to shove the lip covering the gap where a tooth was missing away.
“Mhh?”
“I just wanna see again, you did have splinters everywhere so I wanna make sure there aren't any, also I wanna take a look at the new tooth!
You did say it was gonna grow back!”
Oh right, though there probably wasn't much to see yet.
“Sure, though i don't know if you can see anything yet, i'm pretty sure most if not all of the new one are still in my skull”
I let him poke around a bit, and he actually managed to fit his entire arm into the gap, finding that incredibly funny for some reason.
“I bet I could stick my entire head in!”
“Yeah please don't, all my OTHER teeth are still sharp”
He just hummed in acknowledgement and tried to spy the new tooth growing out, to no success.
“Aww i can't see anything, but it kinda reminds me of a window!
I bet I could look out from inside!”
Of course he would come up with something like that, but to be fair he'd probably find it funny, and there wasn't really any other opportunity for it anyway as soon as the tooth grew back.
As expected he managed to talk me into it, to be fair that wasn't exactly a hard feat.
And now he was laying in my mouth, giggling over the fact he could look out like that.
After a bit I attempted to let him slide out again so he could sleep but he stopped himself by bracing against my remaining teeth.
I stopped tilting my head worried he might get cut, letting out a confused sound.
“I- uhm, can i- can I sleep inside? Im- im still worried that i might wake up to find you gone, or get another nightmare from when you fell off”
My mind blanked for a millisecond, though what he said did make some sense, at least regarding him.
Head said in the past he slept better when he wasn't alone, and considering that after I fell into the water he had the room alone it was no wonder he had gotten nightmares.
Well it really wasn't any inconvenience to me so why not?
If it made him feel better, strange as it might be might as well.
I gave an affirmative hum and instead of tilting my head even more forward I tilted it backwards, letting the ginger slide into my throat before gulping strongly.
Swallowing two more times he spilled into my pouch, immediately turning around and getting comfy.
I myself did pretty much the same, tucking all limbs close and getting comfy as well on the floor.
“Got what you wanted?”
“Mhm, yeah, thank you, i don't think i’ll have any nightmares like this”
He yawned and slumped over, the adrenaline from before apparently running out.
“Donovan? Why am I hearing two hearts? Are you okay?”
Oh he noticed that?
Well from where he was it was probably easier to hear.
He should probably explain.
“Oh, yeah, that, remember that I told you Ronan tossed an electric eel at me? Apparently the shock I got from that kick started my second heart somehow? But don't worry I'm okay, I mean two is better than one right?”
There haven been any problems with it aside from the initial confusion, and I was now pretty sure the nausea I had felt was from a concussion.
“Isn't it weird to have both-”
“Yes absolutely, i really wanted to throw up after waking up, and it took pretty long for my brain to register what it was as well”
It really was weird, but I had gotten used to it pretty quickly, which was also a bit strange but better than feeling awful for longer.
“As long as you're alright, though it does sound funny”
Of course to him it would, though it probably did sound a bit funny seeing as they weren't exactly in tune, whatever function that had.
“I suppose it does? I'm actually kinda glad i don't hear my own organs all the time, id go mad”
Fuck knew if i did id stab my own eardrums.
“Mhm, that would get annoying, and probably distract from talking to people”
Oh yeah that as well, and some people were already bad at listening anyway.
I could hear Robin yawing again, barely holding himself upright at all at this point
“Tired?”
Robin just hummed in agreement, yawning again.
I had to chuckle as the ginger stretched like a cat before settling down again.
Well it was late now, better i'd go to sleep as well.
“Goodnight then, wake me if you need anything”
Robin did not answer, already mostly asleep.
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Robin was glad Donovan had agreed to let him sleep in the pouch, he actually preferred it over having to sleep in a new and unfamiliar place.
And like this he didn't have to worry about Nightmares or Donovan disappearing again, he was literally all around him so there was no way he could manage to leave without Robin.
He twisted around until he got comfy on the warm flesh, feeling Donovan do pretty much the same outside on the floor.
Out of the two of them Robin had probably the better bed right now.
“Got what you wanted?”
Robin looked up at the voice, useless as that was in the darkness, and nobody could see him either anyway.
“Mhm, yeah, thank you, i don't think i’ll have any nightmares like this”
He yawned and laid back against his warm surroundings, Strangely enough hearing two heartbeats?
“Donovan? Why am I hearing two hearts? Are you okay?”
He could feel the body around him shifting in confusion for a moment.
“Oh, yeah, that, remember that I told you Ronan tossed an electric eel at me? Apparently the shock I got from that kick started my second heart somehow? But don't worry I'm okay, I mean two is better than one right?”
Robin hummed, finding it strange but he was really no stranger to his friend's weird doubled anatomy.
And hey, if both worked now that was better right?
“Isn't it weird to have both-”
“Yes absolutely, i really wanted to throw up after waking up, and it took pretty long for my brain to register what it was as well”
Robin let out a laugh, of course it would be weird to suddenly have two working hearts when he'd lived this far with only one.
“As long as you're alright, though it does sound funny”
It really did, the hearts weren't exactly synchronized but both worked to push blood through the giant body around him.
“I suppose it does? I'm actually kinda glad i don't hear my own organs all the time, id go mad”
Robin did have to agree with that, if he heard his own heartbeat all the time it would get annoying.
“Mhm, that would get annoying, and probably distract from talking to people” He yawned again, sliding down the damp wall a bit more, collecting in a heap at what was probably the bottom of the pouch.
“Tired?”
Robin just hummed in agreement, yawning again and stretching once before curling up again.
He could feel the large body chuckle around him, the walls slightly moving at the sound.
“Goodnight then, wake me if you need anything”
Robin mumbled something back but he wasn't sure if Donovan had heard it before falling asleep.
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The next time I woke up was by someone kicking at my outstretched paw.
“Oi, Fuzzbrain, get up, you missed breakfast and the bossman is having some sort of speech later to choose the new mayor or whatever”
I blinked blearily at the voice, seeing Jamie rake their claws through my fur.
Could nobody send someone less chaotic to wake me up?
First Nea and now this bird legged maniac.
“Mhm, gimme some time to get ready, i'll be out there in a bit”
Jamie shrugged and turned to leave, then turned back and rapidly bapped their clawed leg against my nose before hopping out.
“You ought to close your window at night!”
My head snapped to the, indeed still open, window.
Ah, fuck.
Well as long as it was only Jamie that knew it would probably be okay.
Probably.
Jamie wasn't the sort to go off and tattle, or had at least enough mind to know what to shut up about.
Well better wake Robin up now, i couldn't exactly go to that speech like this.
Poking at the pouch I softly called out to the ginger.
“Robin, wake up, Rikaad is doing some speech”
There was mumbling and he turned over, likely blocking his ears.
“That again? You really are not a morning person huh?”
Still, he had to get up, and I had to shift back.
“Come on, i have to shift back and i can't do that with you in there”
There was more mumbling and he seemed to finally wake up, if slowly so.
“Mhm? What time is it? Why'd you wake me?”
I could feel him sit somewhat upright, still rather groggy though.
“We have to get up, Rikaad is doing a speech or something,
and i have to shift back to fit through the door”
The door wasn't even half the size of the Ardua form, the room itself just barely big enough for it.
“Mh, okay, what's the thingy about?”
What did Jamie say again? New mayor right?
“Uh i think he's gonna appoint a new mayor, maybe some other things?”
He stretched and shoved a bit at the walls of my pouch.
“Alright, i hope if this is over we can go home soon, or at least go to a beach with nice seashells all of us together”
“eh if Rikaad wont come with i'll just drag him, or we can throw sand at him”
That made him laugh.
“With how fancy things he's wearing, it's gonna take forever to get out!”
“Yeah, speaking of getting out, your turn so brace yourself”
Righting myself as much as I could in the limited space I brought the redhead back up, letting him slide to the floor where he gave a thumbs up.
Though he still didn't get up, grabbing one of the discarded pillows and pulling it closer.
I poked at him with a paw, making sure every claw was retracted.
“Come on, we don't want to be late do we?”
“Hmmm fine, s’not warm anymore anyway”
With that he finally stood up, hair sticking out in every direction and making him look like a scraggly cat.
“Go brush your hair while I shift back, yeah?”
He nodded and yawned, walking out to get properly ready while I turned the bracelet gem and shrunk back into a more human size.
There was a mirror on the wall and after checking myself over I found that since I had slept as Ardua there wasn't much to be done.
Practical!
Now to collect Robin and head out for whatever Rikaad was doing.
Jamie really could have given a better explanation than whatever that was.
Eh they probably only halfway listened anyway.
NEXT / PREVIOUS / OVERSIGHT
#sstc#lizards writing#vore story#giant/tiny#soft vore#extreme cuddling#v0re#g/t vore#g/t story#sfw vore#Ardua#Sea of Barmea#nsx vore
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"why am i always stuck in the slowest grocery line?!"
To the people who say this: i believe everyone is,if you are like me,you might have asked yourself the following questions:
-Do shops do it on purpose so people will buy more while they are in line?
- Does everyone just naturally overgeneralise their own experience?
-Is shop management just bad at predicting the amount of customers?
-Or do they only open the amount of check outs needed so they can limit the people they need to pay to work there!?
-Like...woudnt that combined by the fact that people do buy more while they are in line maximise the shops their profit,thus they are doing it on purpose?!
- Im confused....
And more....
These are just few of the things ive asked myself or have heard people ask me.
Everyone seems to experience this,but why? Is it because:
-Shops want to maximise their profits while minimising their spending??? (encouraging people to impulse buy in long lines while also having to pay less checkout clerks)
- there is no good way to predict the influx of people?
-am i just overthinking this because everyone naturally believes that they have more impact on others/have been more impacted by others then is true?
A pattern ive noticed is: its a matter of perspective
But is it really our fault that we percieve it that way? Or are we being force fed that everything that maximises their profits is good?
I think its the latter one. Now hear me out,im not talking about the small bakery across the street run by the sweetest lady ever.
Im talking about the big corporations, for the mainly american demographic of tumblr it would be shops like target and wallmart. Here in belgium(dutch speaking part),it would be shops like Albert Hijn,Aldi,carrefour,colruyt,and the list goes on and on.(dont worry if you cant pronounce these names,that isent the point)
Ive seen it before,and im sure il see it again. Here are a few things why i came to 'such an absurd conclusion':
-there are a lot of known ways grocery shops use psychology to trick people like greenwashing,putting all unhealthy snacks(like candy and small chocolate bars)+cigarettes at the check out to lure people in to impulse buy because they cant resist their addiction to sugar/cigarettes,as a way to feel rewarded after waiting such a long time and a lot of other things.
-it would make sense,like i said earlier shops try to maximise profits but minimize their spending. This would also explain the self-checkouts:make people believe the shop is solving a problem(= for a good reputation) that they created on purpose(slower lines),while actually just firing more and more of their staff.
This might be a chaotic post,thats why il try to summarize my theory here(aka tl;dr): grocery shops slow down lines on purpose to make us impulse buy and cut their expences by paying for less checkout clerks,while also testing out self-checkout to solve their self imposed 'problem' just to have to hire even less personel.
There is your answer folks,see you next time.
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[totk] alternate dimension???
HAHA ok i simply can't go without writing this down but this time i will try my best to omit all spelling errors to preserve readability... tbh i wouldnt read this if you havent finished the geoglyphs
[spoilers!!]
ok im gonna be honest i've only finished botw and totk so this is gonna be moreso why the alternate timeline from botw is plausible in comparison to the actual placement of the timeline bc thats too much thinking and its been like a million bajillion years since i read the historia.
ok so firstly zelda doing different things in the past is def why the line would have changed from botw to totk but why was zelda the one who went back in time?? In botw the divine beasts are literally analogous to the current sages which is basically
vah rudania/daruk = yunobo
vah naboris/urbosa = riju
vah ruta/mipha = sidon
vah medoh/revali = tulin
that covers all four but what about link?? link gets his own divine beast (master cycle) too so why is zelda the sage and not link?? besides i heard this mentioned somewhere else (i forgot where) but link has the ability to literally slow down time when hes drawing his bow or looking through the scope and he can pause time with the menu but idk if thats actually canon LOL. either way link can also control time like zelda. But speaking of divine beasts the 4 helms can be found in totk as well but the item descriptions call them zonai while the general look of the pieces is clearly sheikha which is weird cuz whaaaat?? also idk maybe nintendo just wanted a way to explain amiibo gear but this just suggests that the divine beasts themsleves are also zonai of some sort. Ik people are saying they dont mention the divine beasts at all but impa and i think like one or two other npcs mention them meaning they are still here but zonai somehow which doesnt make sense in the context of botw.
also aside from the divine beasts theres some other things of note too: firstly, your house in hateno which zelda STOLE 😭😭liek man i paid good money for that sign... 3000 rs.... this is p minor but why would she just take the sign away unless it wasnt already there?? I mean ok maybe link wanted to live with her
[zora arc spoilers]
anyways point two about yona... tbh i thought she was ganondorfs spy or something at first because she came out of nowhere... im assuming she's muzu's daughter but we saw no sign at all of her in botw... maybe the devs hated sidlink that much lolol. In all seriousness tbh her appearance does seem to point to a shift in the events of 100 years ago unless she's not from hyrule which seems unlikley seeing that sidon grew up in zora's domain according to the botw dlc.
[zora spoilers over]
ok last thing... the bottomless swamp is gone!!
like whaaat theres a pond there now
I'm like 99% sure this is just because they needed a body of water that you can drop into safely but its also the only pond on ground thats actually got the lily pads from the sky in it which is interesting. I don't think they added any other new bodies of water aside from this though. Lorewise though it makes no sense at all that they removed that whole giant skeleton from here in a few years and even if they did iirc the ground around it was crackly and dry. Lanaryu/Zorana used to all be a desert and they said it took hundreds of years for it to become fertile so its kind of nonsensical that this area would only take a little while...
overall i think this is probably just nintendo trying to make it so that totk can be standalone but man it cant be that hard to write coherent lore
#totk theory#botw totk theory#tears of the kingdom#totk spoilers#zelda#the legend of zelda#botw totk
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because i cannot understand his hypocrisy. He fucks other girls with an intention to try to move on from reader. But still ends up at her door and to some extent its okay, but still even saying I love you to her doesn't seem at all like he is even trying to move on.
Not to offend someone but if I were in reader's place, I would've gladly let him fuck me (cuz why not!) But yeah that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Even if I would still have feelings for him, that doesn't me a I would walk straight into his toxicity.
He really puts blame on the reader even when he knows she broke up with him for his own sake and there was even full conversation of it, so it also doesn't leave the option for any misunderstanding either.
She even told him that she would be there for him while he is learning to improve himself. She is kind. To me what he does is plainly an asshole move and is making no redemption for it and his moves doesn't make sense to me.
Like what does he expect from the reader now? Seriously reader should also fuck with others if he is doing it. It should be from both sides. Only him doing so and still if reader takes him back, would only prove that she is blinded.
They should just break it off for real
dang this is crazyyy
something tells me u didnt really get the story so ill explain it to you again:
as mentioned, jungkook has never been by himself. he comes from a line of short relationships and situationships and his first actual love is y/n. he is extremely, extremely attached to her.
jungkook has never once blamed y/n, he has only stated the fact that she walked out on him which is true, she did choose to break it off with him. he doesn’t blame her for it, not at all, in fact he understands. he only reminds her that she has no right to fuss over what he does when they are not together anymore and he is right.
you say that y/n should just ‘start fucking others too’ and that it should ‘come from both sides’ but that’s where you’ve lost the plot.
again, jungkook has never been by himself. so his attempts at moving on is looking for affection some place else, he can’t imagine living without it because he never had to nor has he experienced it. (until y/n broke up with him.) he is scared of being alone.
y/n on the other hand, has a healthy relationship with herself as stated in pt1, doesnt cling to the past, forgives anyone that has hurt her without a second thought, always trying new things, always looking for change. the thing with her is that she has fallen deeply in love with jungkook but she isn’t terrified of being alone like jungkook is so for her to start sleeping around doesn’t make sense, she doesn’t crave that. you saying that just tells me you read reminder in a very black and white/one dimensional mindset when its much more complex than that.
i do agree that jungkook saying ‘i will never let you forget about me’ is narcissistic however he never once claims ‘i will never let you move on from me’. yes, he doesn’t want her to move on from him but that doesn’t mean that he’ll actively prevent it.
yes, he keeps showing up at her front door. yes, he knows she can’t resist him. that is selfish of him.
but its been made clear that if she tells him to stop, he will stop. jungkook will listen to whatever she says. he couldve thrown a way bigger tantrum when she first broke up with him but all she had to say was ‘stop’ and he stopped. he processed her words. he asked for one more night and he left without another word.
because he trusts her with his life. he loves her too.
every single time he returns to her home he very clearly asks if he can kiss her and if he can have sex with her because she can decline, she can tell him to leave and he’ll obviously respect that. she just cant bring herself to make him leave because she still loves him, still wants him, still craves him.
so that being said i hope i gave u more insight because i wholeheartedly have to disagree with what ur saying. i respect people’s opinions and thoughts nonetheless and i always encourage my readers to share their thoughts and reactions but you completely misunderstood the story and i just wanted to take the time explain it to you.
#clover over#reminder is a much more complex story than ur making it out to be#reread it after uve seen this if u want#love is complicated#inner battles are complicated#reminder jjk
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