#creole language

[kemetic-dreams]

The language emerged from contact between French settlers and enslaved Africans during the Atlantic slave trade in the French colony of Saint-Domingue (now Haiti) in the 17th and 18th centuries. 

Although its vocabulary largely derives from 18th-century French, its grammar is that of a West African Volta-Congo language branch, particularly the Fongbe and Igbo languages. It also has influences from Spanish, English, Portuguese, Taino, and other West African languages. 

It is not mutually intelligible with standard French, and has its own distinctive grammar. Haitians are the largest community in the world speaking a modern creole language, according to some sources. 

However, this is disputable, as Nigerian Pidgin, an English-based Creole language, is attested by some sources to have a larger number of speakers than that of Haitian Creole and other French-based Creole languages, particularly if non-native speakers are included.

[ranahan]

Just had to share this turn of phrase with the rest of the linguistics tumblr.

In: John Holm (2004), An introduction to pidgins and creoles. Cambridge University Press.

[plantaagomaajor]

north/south American creole languages are so beautiful... they tell a story of their speakers' survival despite the horrors and atrocities of slavery and of the endurance of love and hope and the human spirit throughout generations

[svartikotturinn]

It could just be a koiné or a creole…

It's always so disappointing when sci fi and fantasy books call their languages "Basic" or "Common". No language is apolitical or universal if they're all calling one language Basic, who made it that way? Why is THIS dialect "Common" and all the others are Special/Magical/Incomprehensible??? Show me even a hint of the politics, or give your language a real name

[celtrist]

Would love for them to bring up languages at some point.

Angel: "shit they're speaking French. Smiles! Translate!"

Alastor: "I'm not sure which is more insulting; assuming I can fluently speak and understand French because I'm Creole, or that you think French and French-Creole are the same thing."

[astrophilic-soul]

I don't dislike polygot America but I do think people give him too much credit lmfao. I don't think America would be fluent in many languages except English, Spanish, French and maybe some German. I get why people hc him to know Chinese, Russian and maybe Hindi, but I don't think he would be fluent in it any more than what would be needed for basic conversation. Like, English is already the "basic" language used internationally for diplomacy, American and British Imperialism has basically made that a default. Why would America even care to learn anything else?

[brainrot-time]

I'm once again thinking about how alone Victoire must have felt living with Letty, outside the bubble of best friendship that Robin and Ramy shared, conveniently paired with the other girl in their cohort.

Robin and Ramy got each other and Letty was always unwilling and unable to get Victoires experience. It breaks my heart that Letty could rely on Victoire for emotional support but not the other way around. No doubt she delved into all her childhood issues and the loss of her brother and Victoire did nothing but listen and be understanding while knowing she'd never be able to count on Letty for the same.

[goblinguistics]

Not really my part of linguistics, but AFAIK there is debate on whether English can be considered a creole or just a language that has been massively influenced by other languages. Creoles originate as pidgins (languages developed by speakers of 2+ languages to be able to communicate): if this is the case for English, then it is a creole language. The problem is that for English this is so far back that it’s really difficult to figure out how it came to be (as compared to more recent creoles born out of colonialism and slavery). So although English very well may be a creole, we can’t really define it as such because we’re not sure it is one

Hey lingüística side of tumblr, English has a well known reputation for borrowing, repurposing, and straight up taking words, rules, and even entire grammatical conventions from other languages right? Is there a reason English isn't considered a creole?

[salroka]

Headcanon that most Vashoth communities speak a creole language that's a blend of common and qunlat.

[bfpnola]

nov 9 - nov 13 readings

hi! this is reaux (she/they)! as many of you know, BFP is slowly waking up and will be undergoing a full makeover in the coming months. in the mean time, to help get back into the pattern of posting and to continue to share resources, i want to start posting what i read each week!

without further ado, here is everything i've been learning from and engaging with so far just between last saturday night [nov 9, 2024] and right now [wednesday afternoon, nov 13, 2024]! i tried to post this on tiktok @/edgeofeden.17 (go check me out for cool political talks and reading recs!) with my reactions as well, but they said it violated community guidelines :(

journal article: The House on Bayou Road: Atlantic Creole Networks in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries

wikipedia: Plaçage

wikipedia: Signare

paperback book: Africans In Colonial Louisiana: The Development of Afro-Creole Culture in the Eighteenth-Century

article: Why Is Gen Z So Sex-Negative?: A prehistory of the Puriteen.

article: Policy-makers must not look to the “Nordic model” for sex trade legislation

article: Sex workers face unique challenges when trying to unionize: Anti-sex work stigma and labor status create roadblocks in sex workers’ fight against the industry status quo

wikipedia: Decriminalization of sex work

short youtube video: "Decriminalization of sex work does not mean the decriminalization of human trafficking."

short youtube video: What About Legalization? Decriminalization is the only solution

short youtube video: Dis/Ability and Sex Work Decriminalization

short youtube video: "Helping people through police is inherently coercive." - Gilda Merlot

wikipedia: Page Act of 1875

essay: Uses of the Erotic: The Erotic as Power by Audre Lorde

wikipedia: Erotic Capital

long youtube video: KATHERINE MCKITTRICK: Curiosities, Wonder, and Black Methodologies // 09.14.20

journal article: Black life is Not Ungeographic! Applying a Black Geographic Lens to Rural Education Research in the Black Belt

journal article: Black matters are spatial matters: Black geographies for the twenty-first century

journal article: Unspoken Grammar of Place: Anti-Blackness as a Spatial Imaginary in Education

short video: Chicago Works | Andrea Carlson: Shimmer on Horizons

zine: Evaluating What Skills You Can Bring to Radical Organizing

diagram + workbook?: The Social Change Ecosystem Map (2020)

essay: How to Build Language Justice

guide: Anti-Oppressive Facilitation for Democratic Process: Making Meetings Awesome for Everyone

radical resource library: Center for Liberatory Practice & Poetry

short essay: The Short Instructional Manifesto for Relationship Anarchy

essay/blog post: Access Intimacy: The Missing Link

i think that's everything? whew. let's see how i finish off the week! if you need PDFs for anything i didn't directly link, lmk and i'll find a way to get it to you. might upload it to my google drive or something!

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topics: Louisiana Creole history + heritage, women of color + erotic capital, sex work decriminalization, Black geography, revolutionary organizing, language, relationship anarchy, disability, intimacy

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So we know how "Kendal" meant "right hand" in the earliest language spoken where the city of Vash came to be. Through this fun tidbit, we can see similarities in different parts of Aurora's language tree. There was a first language, which evolved overtime with isolation and regional dialects as language does.

In the calendar extra lore page, it's stated that sindahlan, the 28 day basically a month, means "two-hand pass" in reference to Sword's two full orbits. Assuming the word breaks down like the translation, 'sin' likely means two, 'dahl' means hand, and 'an' means pass. In Erin's narration/ journal entry in chapter 4, we learn that the storm is called "Dalan-Rakhn," meaning "the hand of chaos," by mountain folk. Since we now know that Rakhn is the name of some god (I saw theories he's a volcanic god?) who is likely chaotic, we can assume "dalan" means "the hand of" or something like that. So we have another "dal" meaning hand. To my knowledge, we don't know which mountian folk Erin was talking about, but they're likely not near Vash as Windscrest still called the storm "The Storm" and Kendal calls it the "Standing Storm." (side note- zooming in on the storm map on 1.8.1 and what we know of Rakhn being referenced to the north of Argist along with volcanic activity makes me think the mountains in question might be the ones at the top right part of the current continent.)

Word of Red states that "Kendal" is a very unusual name in current comic time, so potentially 'dal' meaning hand is from a much earlier branch of Aurora's language family tree. All in all, I quite like how you can see similar words across languages.

[ciderjacks]

cajundns and afro-cajuns need more rep pleaaasseeeee we exist we’re here why is the only cajun rep either derogatory jokes or the whitest palest cajuns ever or literally just some guy who happens to live in Lousiana

[mangotangerine]

Louisiana Creole/Kouri-Vini Resources

I started looking for this stuff because I'm writing a fanfic (well, multiple) where Alastor/his family speak Louisiana Creole, and scrounged together a bunch of resources on the language.

I put it all on a handy Notion site which separates the resources into different sections of Embedded PDFs (downloadable), Vocabulary/Lesson websites, and "About Kouri-Vini"

I am continually adding to this page whenever I find new things, but here is the collection of resources about the critically endangered language Louisiana Creole, including an out-of-print dictionary I managed to find. I edited the metadata of it so if you download view it you should see an outline where you can easily navigate to different parts of the dictionary.

If anyone has any specific questions/resources they've been trying to find that aren't on here (or have any they'd like to add!), let me know and I will rummage around and see what I can find, but I've spent the past few month scrounging around the internet to find this stuff.

[shvalmaison-la]

Nô langaj ❤️💙💚💛

Tiktok//JourdanThibodeux

[poisonedbeyondrepair]

Little tidbit for chapter 7! Decided to do some editing by listening, this was the wrong chapter to start with 😂 the Louisiana creole (Kouri-vini) and French sound dreadful but I was howling at the pronunciation for ‘pistache’ (pis-ta-sh)

Nah, “no hurting my little piss cake” 🥰😂

(If anyone is interested in learning about Kouri-vini I’m so down to talk. I’m by no means a native speaker but I’ve found some really good resources! Here’s an example of one of the sources I found and how Kouri-vini actually sounds:

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