#charlie morfydd interview

[fatcatlittlebox]

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[markantonys]

Nerdist interview

[luzriels]

#slay

[haladrielgifs]

[martanis]

CHARLIE VICKERS and the CAST of THE RINGS OF POWER for EW (in which he admits to having galadriel's theme on heavy rotation)

[moo1982]

Links of recent interviews

I loved these over the last couple of days and as I am starting to lose track I have made a list. Am I missing any?

The one where they talk about their characters obsessing over each other and their thoughts on S3:

https://youtu.be/vLMMEjxjsXY?feature=shared

30min with Charlie, Miv, McKay and Payne. (and Tevildo):

The one where they talk about what power means to them:

"This is what I have become because of you, you could have joined me and maybe you still will":

The one where Miv thinks Charlie would survive in the wild because he's Australian:

The relationship status one:

The one where it's confirmed Galadriel wasn't deceived but chose not to see the red flags:

The one where Miv says she knows what the fans are saying but Charlie doesn't :

The one were Charlie confirms Sauron really connected with Galadriel and could be vulnerable with her as she understood him like noone had done in hundreds of years. And where he seems to have taken it slightly personally that Miv may have found Annatar repulsive 😂

The one where they talk about Annatar having glammed up for Galadriel and commenting on the Halbrand with a curl:

The one where Charlie says Sauron still has good intentions though he realises he's gone too far. And wants to continue playing him with levity (which we all love). His favourite scene from S2 is when Elrond takes over as commander from Galadriel (he he, Sauron knows she loves power). Miv said the connection between Galadriel and Sauron will always be there (and changes the subject by talking about the little dog in the background):

The one where Miv says the most important moment of S2 for Galadriel is when she admits to Celebrimbor that she wanted "something Sauron offered her" and Charlie says (in full Sauron mode) "finally" with a big smile on his face:

The one where Charlie says Galadriel shows Sauron possibilities he couldn't have imagined and that's why he wants her...to join him. And where Charlie admits that, like Sauron, he likes order:

This is now a video link but has some great insights about their relationship. Like Miv saying that Halbrand knows a part of Galadriel that no-one else does and she is grieving for that loss and Charlie getting taken over by Halbrand mode:

The one where Miv says she had been looking forward to elves kissing on the mouth and Charlie laughs (of course). And where Sauron will keep pushing boundaries:

The one where Charlie says Sauron is so arrogant that he cannot imagine Galadriel will be able to resist him.

[rey-jake-therapist]

Miv drop your Tumblr account, it's alright we don't bite <3

[anetherealpoetess]

with new morfydd and charlie interviews get ready for my absolute favourite game: the antis leaping from "you ship haladriel" to "this means you’re responsible for every person in your fandom’s opinions, therefore it's your fault some random on twitter thinks charlie and morfydd would make a cute couple, and the fact you have not personally shut down their account means you are evil!!!" mhmmmm right okay babes. i really don't know what you expect us to do about some rando nutters. just block them like the rest of us.

but it’s never really about the actors, is it? the hand-wringing is just a smokescreen for the real issue: patriarchal ideals of female purity. we all know it. (god forbid women enjoy something transgressive without being shamed for it.) the 'how dare you ship real people' (we don't) line is tired, as is the 'how dare you don't shut down people who ship real people' (women are not responsible for their actions of complete strangers) but they trot out this nonsense every time in yet another sad attempt to stigmatise female desire. silly. predictable. same old story.

[fatcatlittlebox]

"We did a few interviews this afternoon and already I'm thinking about all the stuff...very similar questions I've been asked for the last 4 months but now hearing them through Morfydd's perspective has changed how I've seen a lot of things. It's a gift that you have. And. Yeah."

Bonus+

[spiderliliez]

Morfydd Clark | “TROP” Interview Talking about her tandem with Charlie Vickers.  And answering questions from season one and two. Interview by Screen Rant Plus [+] MORFYDD [GIF Collection] 🌻 [+] ..more on Galadriel ✨ [+] “The Making of The Rings of Power” 🎬

[highly-flammable]

So we’re hopefully getting dark-haired elf-eared bearded Sauron next season wearing long flowing gowns. Got it.

Girlies, time to rejoice. Unless you liked the grime on Halbrand, that is 😂

Source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/charlie-vickers-interview-rings-of-power-season-2-finale-1236021166/

[beyonddarkness]

Thoughts on Haladriel/Saurondriel

Okay, can I be COMPLETELY honest?

I always understood the shipping of Halbrand/Sauron and Galadriel, but for the sake of analyzing, I never let myself believe that there was any element of attraction from either side. Because they have a "cosmic connection," you know?

Something changed today (even though that "cosmic connection" is still very much a thing). I came to the conclusion that, while my pain for Galadriel has now increased manifold, I am so relieved from everything Morfydd said in her recent interview, particularly that the ambiguity behind their relationship was Charlie's idea (how dare he) because now I know that Charlie is Sauron, irl. Let me explain. (Prepare for a long read—bonus content at the end):

Charlie never told a lie in press.

"Were we in a relationship of seduction or power? It's up to the viewer to decide" (Morfydd).

What Morfydd said didn't give anything away. It truly leaves everything up to interpretation even more than before, and yet any way you slice it, everything makes sense. It fits with everything that everyone has said in press (the 'cosmic connection', 'it's not romantic', etc.).

Think of it this way:

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If everything was purely platonic, and Galadriel was not attracted to Halbrand in the least, then Sauron was tempting Galadriel with power. This makes sense, since we know that Galadriel left Valinor in large part because she desired to rule over a realm of her own. Power is very enticing to her.

That also means that Galadriel would never, ever, EVER think of anyone but Celeborn, which is nice. I mean, once Elves marry, that's it. No backsies. In this case, Sauron would be playing it safe, not fooling himself into thinking that Galadriel would fall for a MAN (of all things), after she has already been married.

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On the other hand, BOY is Sauron able to seduce.

Now, when we think of seduction, some of us automatically think:

But Galadriel most likely would not be enticed by an extremely forward approach. She would slap that guy so silly.

So here's why Sauron is terrifying: Halbrand is so nice.

His approach would be: Become friends first, to make it difficult to resist joining him in the end. He made himself attractive in a way that, if successful, would make her attached to him for much longer than if he was strictly flirtatious (a few thousand years should do it). He never said anything forward until their friendship developed to a certain point (1x06).

And as long as I've been denying that either side was attracted to the other, the one thing I have never been able to get out of my head is the fact that in episode 7, Galadriel called to Halbrand before anyone else. Later, she mentioned Celeborn to Theo (for the first time in presumably centuries, after she assumed Halbrand had died). Then, when she saw Halbrand again, she called him her friend, and he for some reason had to say:

"Nor will you."

Then he made that STUPID SMIRK, and poor Galadriel looked SO TORN. We just barely learned that her husband was in the picture, so he was fresh on her mind. And then we had this thrown on us, to indicate that something about this friendship was not right.

(Oh, the discomfort and second-hand embarrassment I felt for Halbrand, before I knew that he was Sauron.)

Since Galadriel hasn't seen her husband in centuries (even though she loves him a lot—I mean A LOT), she was very vulnerable to seduction, because... she was alone. Halbrand saved her life, rivaled her intelligence, didn't beg for her attention on account of her beauty, connected with her on a level that probably hasn't happened in a while, became her really good friend, made her feel free fighting at his side, etc. If that doesn't spark someone's interest, I don't know what does. (His looks are a major bonus.)

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Now, here is what's really unfortunate, and causes me pain beyond measure: Sauron wouldn't have fallen in love. But Galadriel would have, and he knew that.

No one (JD, Patrick, Charlie, and Morfydd) ever lied in any interview. Have you ever noticed that whenever they spoke of the lack of romance, they were always talking specifically about Sauron's perspective? :')

Here are some examples:

Charlie: "I mean, look. I don't see it as a... strictly—I don't know. I haven't run this past you guys [Patrick: 'Run it by!']—as a King and Queen thing. I love the reflection bit. But it's not like... I think ultimately, if she had said yes, he's very much the King, and she's like his sidekick, in terms of ruling." Patrick: "And it's not like a marriage—[Morfydd: 'How...]—proposal...—[...dare you.'] [...] Charlie: "You guys sent me something really early on. It's WH Auden, talking about good and evil in Tolkien, and the difference when it gets to evil. It's affection—I'm paraphrasing here—but affection goes out the window. And you see this relationship, and you see affection, but in the end, it's only for personal gain. [...] The whole season, you see them working together, and they have this sort of—we like to call it a 'cosmic connection'. Not romantic. [laughs] Although, I got in a lot of trouble for saying it wasn't romantic yesterday, because of the 'shipping'; the people shipping. [Interviewer: 'How dare you.'] [laughs] Yeah, exactly. And I think it's very clear on the raft that he's just using her for his own personal gain, rather than any sort of love and affection to her." (Empire Spoiler Special)

Charlie: "I think they have a 'cosmic connection', but I don't think it's necessarily, in his mind, a King and a Queen... like husband and wife kind of situation. I think it's more, 'I can use you to get what I want, and effect my designs faster.' Because ultimately, I think he would have ended up ruling by himself, whether she joined him or not. And when she says no on the raft, it angers him, but it's not the end of the world for him." (Deadline Inside the Ring)

So, if Sauron was trying to effectively seduce Galadriel into falling in love with him, it was always going to be one-sided. He would have never felt any real love towards her, but his goal would be to get Galadriel to feel something like that towards him. For personal gain.

And if Galadriel did feel something, how much more ashamed and violated would she feel in the end, knowing that he did it on purpose?

:'))))

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Here is the ultimate question:

Did Sauron tempt Galadriel with power, or seduction (or both)?

Here's the thing -> Charlie

Morfydd said in her interview that "Halbrand's hold on Galadriel was less connoted in the storylines," meaning it was more straight forward, and not much was implied. But she did not say which direction the scripts leaned, meaning Charlie said one of two things:

"Let's make it seem less romantic."

"Let's make it seem more romantic."

Either way, he's actually so mean, I can't put it into words.

Here's why both possibilities work perfectly: Every time Charlie or anyone else has talked about the lack of romance in interviews, they're always speaking from Sauron's perspective; Galadriel's feelings are wide open for interpretation. Whether Sauron tempted her with power or seduction, he never loved her. He knows how to seduce, and he does it well, but it doesn't mean he feels it. That's why I'm terrified of him, and I'm also afraid of Charlie.

Ever since that interview with Morfydd, I've realized that Charlie has a lot more to do with the character than he's letting on. He knows enough about Sauron to propose an idea that fits into the lore. The fact that the scripts were "less connoted," and he managed to convince everyone to make the relationship more ambiguous is just... GAH. How dare he!

Is it power or seduction?? Both work so well, it could very well be both at the same time! (Charlie and his ambiguities. *sigh*)

But again, it's a matter of what Sauron is tempting Galadriel with; not what he feels, himself.

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So, why am I relieved? Because Chapter 6. :)

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Bonus: Translation of the Haunting Music

It is time.

With all of this in mind, I would like to take a shot in the dark. Remember that ultra creepy/seductive part of the music in The Broken Line? A couple of months ago, I was driven crazy by the fact that right in the middle of a musical phrase, the vocals transitioned from Black Speech to Quenya, when Sauron's doing this:

I wanted to know the translation, so I used Paul Strack's lexicon. I managed to pick out most of the words in the music, but since I'm not fluent in Elvish grammar, I don't dare try to translate it. I will just give you the translation for each word, and let you decide what it means for yourself. It'll be fun. :)

Here's the music:

Here are the words (red is confirmed, purple is what I made out, and the [?] is the last word that I cannot figure out, for the life of me. So if someone could enlighten me, I would greatly appreciate it):

ash gul ishi ghash [ash] gul insangarë antani márië i cilmë [?]

Here are the translations:

Black Speech:

ash: "one" gul: "phantom" ishi: "in" ghash: "fire"

Quenya:

insangarë: "temptation" anta-: "to give, present; to add to" ni: "me, I" márië: "well, happily; goodness, good estate, being well, happiness" i: "the" cilmë: "choice, choosing"

In episode 6, Adar said in Quenya, "What I seek. Give it to me." His sentence ended with "antani". So... if "antani" comes after the subject of a sentence... "insangarë antani"? O_O

Someone please help Galadriel. I can hardly stand it. Where's Celeborn?

[martanis]

“It would be like if you had the most intense type of synesthesia, and then you met someone else that had the same type of it, but then you find out they’re the worst person in the world. But you can’t undo that feeling of what it was to be understood and connected in that way.” — Morfydd Clark for 📰 TV INSIDER ↵

[moo1982]

Nine interviews so far

For those who may have missed some, pasting the list with the links. Gosh it must have been exhausting doing all these while jetlagged but they looked like they had a lot of fun. They are such a joy to watch! 😍

[pinkbeastie]

is anyone getting sadder and sadder about the fact that when rop introduces celeborn morfydd will probably do interviews w that character instead of charlie

[thenerdsofcolor]

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