#carmel gat

[perfectlyvalid49]

I don't need you to mourn with us. You clearly don't view those lost as part of your community, so why would you mourn?

And I don't need you to comfort us. You've shown time and time again that you do not care for our pain, so why would I expect you to start now?

But I do need you to not celebrate our grief - to not treat our pain like a victory.

Because nothing has been gained here. Palestine has not moved closer to freedom. It has not gained ground, or resources, or allies. This does not move us closer to the end of the war, and if anything it strengthens Israel's resolve to continue fighting because the alternative is death.

So if you are celebrating, the only thing you are celebrating is death, and grief. And if you think that's worthy of celebrating, then I think you need to really think about if that's the sort of person you want to be.

[arunswild]

I don't really know what to say. This morning I got the news that six of the hostages were found dead, recently shot. I know the family of one of them, and they are the bravest and most resilient people I know. They gave me, and, well, everyone hope that their son would be back. I fully believed he would. Everyone did. I guess we just expected him to turn up one day at synagogue after all this time.

There are a few thoughts going through my head right now. Most of them start with the word "why", like,

Why did a 23 year old spend 11 out of the 12 months of his 23rd year in a tunnel?

Why do baby-murdering, hostage-taking, house-burning militias live two hours away from my house?

and

Why do I, an 18 year old, fresh out of highschool, know three dead people, ranging in ages from 19 to 32?

Some of them start with the words "what", like

What are they going to do now?

What awful, awful heartbreak am I going to hear about next?

and

What the fuck?

[alwaysfrowningslightly]

Baruch Dayan emet.

For all of our murdered family, stolen and starved. We loved you, and missed you, and prayed for your return.

We will always miss you.

[stupidjewishwhiteboy]

May their blood be avenged

[jewishstargal]

Waking up to see the news that Hersh and five others were murdered. They were alive just days ago. They survived for this long, only for lives to be cut short by the bullets of Hamas.

They were in Rafah. Where everyone said not to go, that's where they were. To everyone who said don't go into Rafah, their blood is on your hands.

[yourlocallostboy]

i've been trying to figure out how to word this since the news broke.

it's unbearably cruel that those six hostages were murdered so close to being freed. it's cruel that their captors might've heard their families calling out to them and murdered them anyway. it's cruel that they were kept, killed, and found in an area full of displaced civilians. it's cruel that hamas is using innocent gazan civilians as human shields, and then blaming the israeli forces for the incredibly high death toll when they have done nothing to protect the civilians under their government.

more so, it's terrible that people have been happy that the hostages didn't get to go home to their families. it's terrible that i haven't seen any anti-zionists who have claimed over and over and over that they want to limit the death toll, and yet the hostages receive no sympathy. they're angry that noa argamani was freed and managed to be happy despite the tragedy that happened to her.

i remember october 7th. i remember being so confused about why so many people were celebrating death. i remember thinking i must have been misunderstanding because these were good people and if they were happy about something that seemed so terrible then clearly i missed something? i remember when they convinced me that israeli citizens were all inherently complicit in the deaths of palestinian civilians.

i remember being vaguely aware of how inconsistent the western anti-zionist movement was, but being told that jews israelis were more inconsistent and therefore everything in the movement was fine. i remember feeling anxious every time i opened social media but continuing to do because i was guilt-tripped into thinking that to be a good person, i needed to look at and share graphic pictures of dead and injured people in gaza.

they don't care about people or lives. they will quite happily encourage people to destroy their mental health in the name of activism because this is how you help palestine!!!

i hope that the hostages' families and friends find peace. i hope the rest of the hostages are able to return home safely. i hope that gazan civilians are able to build a democracy and thrive. i hope the conflict ends soon and everyone affected receives the food, water, shelter, medicine, and whatever else they need.

may their memories be a blessing.

[girlactionfigure]

TICP - The Israeli Cartoon Project

[elliebelliegirl]

absolutely disgusting. free palestine from hamas

[dawnscales]

An Israeli source said three of the six hostages whose bodies were recovered from Gaza were supposed to be released in the first stage of the hostage release/cease-fire deal currently being negotiated. "They appeared in the lists given over at the beginning of July. It was possible to bring them back alive," the source said. According to the proposed deal for the release of the hostages that has been discussed recently, Hersh Goldberg-Polin, Eden Yerushalmi and Carmel Gat were supposed to be released in the first stage of the deal ( source: haaretz )

I've been crying since the news broke but knowing that three of them were supposed to come home just feels even crueler. The truth is none of them should have even been away from home. the past 11 months have been nothing but pain, fear and grief.

may their memory be a blessing

[frisrael]

Hostages and the spiral of devastation and hope

“Take a look at this picture. This is my sister Carmel. Actually, this is not my sister, this is just a photo of her. What I am here today to tell you is that she is not just a piece of paper, she’s a real person and she’s still a hostage in Gaza”When I saw Alon Gat speak at the Knesset, advocating for his sister Carmel, I was impressed by his quiet and gentle dignity. He spoke about his wife…

[hidingintheaether]

💔

All of Israel mourns the loss of these six beautiful souls.

May Hashem bring comfort to their families, may their memories be for a blessing, and may Hashem avenge them.

[queenwille]

Hersh Goldberg-Polin Z”L, 23 🕯️🕊️

Eden Yerushalmi Z”L, 24 🕯️🕊️

Ori Danino Z”L, 25 🕯️🕊️

Alex Lubnov Z”L, 32 🕯️🕊️

Carmel Gat Z”L, 40 🕯️🕊️

Almog Sarusi Z”L, 25 🕯️🕊️

Their bodies were retrieved back home by the IDF last night from a tunnel 20m underground in Rafah, after being executed in the last few days. HY”D. 🕯️🎗️

[lesfruitsdores]

Who are the hostages still held by Hamas?

On October 7, 2023, 253 Israelis and foreign nationals were kidnapped to Gaza by Hamas and gazan civilians. Since then, 105 were released in a prisioner exchange deal, 4 were released by Hamas and 3 were rescued.

However, 60 remain in captivity [as of 02/09/24] (4 of those were kidnapped prior to 2023). A recent investigation has concluded that more than a fifth of the hostages are dead and the fate of some other hostages remains unknown. This video explains how doctors determine which hostages are dead, based on the nature of their injury and by analyising footage and the victims' last phone calls. Additionally, during the operation in Gaza, the IDF has recovered the bodies of a few victims and returned to their families for burial.

Since I couldn't find this all in one place, I've compiled a list of: 1) hostages who are presumed alive; 2) hostaged whose death has been reported/confirmed; 3) hostages who were released or rescued. In the group of hostages presumed to be alive who haven't been released, the youngest is 1-year-old Kfir Bibas and the oldest hostage is Iraqi-born 85-year old Shlomo Mansour.

As we learn more information, I'll continue to update this post.

They need to come back home. I'm hoping for more successful rescue operations soon. Keep them in your thoughts.

Hostages still held by Hamas (presumed alive or fate unknown):

(1) (2) (3)

Abraham Eitan Mor (23)

Agam Berger (19)

Alexander (Sasha) Trupanob (28)

Alon Ohel (22)

Arbel Yehoud (28)

Ariel Bibas (4)

Ariel Cunio (26)

Avera Mengistu (37) – Has been held hostage since 2014

Avinathan Or (30)

Bar Kupershtein (22)

Bipin Joshi (23)

Daniel Gilboa (19)

David Cunio (33)

Doron Steinbrecher (30)

Edan Alexander (20)

Eitan Horn (37)

Eli Sharabi (51)

Eliya Cohen (26)

Elkana Bohbot (34)

Evytar David (23)

Gadi Moses (79)

Gali Berman (26)

Guy Gilboa-Dalal (22)

Hamzah Al-Zayadni (22)

Hisham al-Sayed (35) - Has been held hostage since 2015

Yair Horn (45)

Idan Shivi (28)

Itzhk Elgarat (68)

Karina Ariev (19)

Kfir Bibas (1)

Liri Albag (18)

Matan Angrest (21)

Matan Zangauker (24)

Maxim Herkin (35)

Naama Levy (19)

Nimrod Cohen (19)

Oded Lifshitz (83)

Ofer Kalderon (53)

Ohad Ben Ami (55)

Ohad Yahalomi (49)

Omer Neutra (22)

Omer Shem Tov (21)

Omer Wenkert (22)

Omri Miran (46)

Or Levy (33)

Rom Braslavski (19)

Romi Gonen (23)

Sagui Dekel-Chen (35)

Samuel Keith Siegel (64)

Segev Kalfon (25)

Shiri Bibas (32)

Shlomo Mansour (85)

Tal Shoham (38)

Tamir Nimrod (19)

Tsachi Idan (51)

Yagev Kirsht (34)

Yarden Bibas (34)

Yosef Al-Zayadni (53)

Yosef Ohana (23)

Ziv Berman (26)

Hostages confirmed/reported dead:

(Note: I couldn't find a report with the full list, but if you google each individual name you can find sources.)

Abraham Munder (79) - Body recovered on 20/08/24.

Alex Danzig (75) - Body recovered on 20/08/24.

Alexander Lobanov (32)

Almog Sarusi (26)

Alon Shamriz (26) – Mistakenly killed by the IDF

Amit Buskila (28) - Likely killed on Oct. 7. Body recovered on 17/05/24.

Amiram Cooper (84) - Status updated on 03/06/24.

Arye Zalmanovich (85) - Death reported by Hamas. He was forced to appear in a propaganda video.

Asaf Hamami (41)

Aviv Atzili (49)

Carmel Gat (39) - Body recovered on 31/08/24.

Chaim Peri (79) - Status updated on 03/06/24.

Daniel Oz (19) - Killed on Oct. 7. Status updated on 25/02/24

Daniel Perez (22) - Killed on Oct. 7. Status updated on 17/03/24

Dolev Yehoud (35) - Killed on Oct. 7. He was presumed to be a hostage, but his remains were found in Israel after months. Status updated on 03/06/24.

Dror Kaplun (68)

Dror Or (48) - Killed on Oct. 7. Status updated on 02/05/24.

Eden Yerushalmi (24) - Body recovered on 31/08/24.

Eden Zecharya (28)

Eitan Levy (53)

Elad Katzir (47) - Murdered by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. His body was recovered in Khan Yunis. Status updated on 06/04/24.

Eliyahu Margalit (75)

Elyakim Libman (23) - Killed on Oct. 7. It was presumed he was a hostage because his body wasn't found, but it was later discovered his remains were accidentally buried with another victim. Status updated on 03/05/24.

Gad Haggai (73)

Guy Iluz (26)

Hadar Goldin (32) - Body held hostage since 2014

Hanan Yablonka (42) - Killed on Oct. 7. Body recovered on 24/05/24.

Hersh Goldberg-Polin (23) - Body recovered on 31/08/24.

Ilan Weiss (56)

Inbar Haiman (27)

Itay Chen (19) - Killed on Oct. 7. Status updated on 12/03/24.

Itay Svirsky (35) – Killed by Hamas in captivity. His body was shown in a propaganda video

Itzik Gelenter (58) - Likely killed on Oct. 7. Body recovered on 17/05/24.

Joshua Loitu Mollel (21) – A released video shows how he was brutally murdered by a group of men on October 7

Judy Weinstein (70)

Kiril Brodski (19)

Lior Rudaeff (61) - Killed on Oct. 7. His body was taken to Gaza. Status updated on 07/05/24.

Maya Goren (56)

Mordechai Yonathan Samerano (21) - Killed on Oct. 7. His body was taken to Gaza.

Nadav Popplewell (51) - Status updated on 03/06/24.

Nik Beizer (19)

Noa Marciano (19) – Her body was found near the Al-Shifa hospital

Michel Nisenbaum (59) - Killed on Oct. 7. Body recovered on 24/05/24.

Muhammed Alatrash (40) - Killed on Oct. 7. Status updated on 24/06/24.

Ofir Tzarfati (27)

Ofra Keider (70)

Oren Goldin (34)

Ori Danino (24) - Body recovered on 31/08/24.

Orión Hernandez (30) - Killed on Oct. 7. Body recovered on 24/05/24.

Oron Shaul (30) – Body held hostage since 2014

Ran Gvlli (24)

Ravid Katz (41)

Ron Benjamin (53) - Killed on Oct. 7 and his body was taken to Gaza. Body recovered on 18/05/24.

Ron Scherman (19)

Ronen Engel (54)

Sahar Baruch (24) – Killed by Hamas during a failed hostage rescue operation

Samer Talalka (22) – Mistakenly killed by the IDF

Shay Levinson (19)

Shani Louk (22) - Body taken to Gaza. Her body was recovered on 17/05/24.

Sonthaya Oakkharasr - Killed on Oct. 7. Body taken to Gaza. Status updated on 16/05/24.

Sudthisak Rinthalak - Killed on Oct. 7. Body taken to Gaza. Status updated on 16/05/24.

Tal Chaim (42)

Tamir Adar (38)

Tomer Ahimas (20)

Uriel Baruch (35) - Status updated on 26/03/24

Yagev Buchshtab (34)

Yair Yaakov (59) – Killed on Oct. 7. Sons and girlfriend were released. Status updated on 15/02/24.

Yehudit Weiss (65) – Her body was found near the Al-Shifa hospital

Yossi Sharabi (53) – His dead body was shown in a propaganda video

Yoram Metzer (80) - Status updated on 03/06/24.

Yotam Haim – Mistakenly killed by the IDF

Ziv Dado (36)

Released/rescued hostages:

(1) (2)

Abigail Edan, 4, American citizen

Ada Sagi, 75

Adi Shoham, 38

Adina Moshe, 72

Agam Goldstein-Almog, 17

Aisha Ziyadne, 17

Alma Avraham, 84

Alma Or, 13

Almog Meir Jan (21) - Rescued by the IDF on 08/06/24.

Amit Shani, 15

Amit Soussana, 40

Andrey Zozlov (27) - Rescued by The IDF on 08/06/24.

Anucha Angkaew

Aviv Asher, 2, German citizen

Aviva Adrienne Siegel, 62

Bancha Kongmanee, Thai national

Bilal Ziyadne, 18

Boonthom Phankhong, Thai national

Buddee Saengboon, Thai national

Chalermchai Sangkaew

Channa Peri, 79

Chen Goldstein-Almog, 48

Clara Marman, 63, Argentine citizen

Daniel Aloni, 44

Dafna Elyakim, 15

Doron Katz Asher, 34, German citizen

Ditza Heiman, 84

Emilia Aloni, 5

Emily Toni Kornberg Hand, 8

Emma Cunio, 3, Argentine citizen

Erez Calderon, 12, French citizen

Eitan Yahalomi, 12, French citizen

Ela Elyakim, 8

Fernando Marman – Rescued by the IDF

Gabriela Leimberg, 59, Argentine citizen

Gal Goldstein-Almog, 11

Gal Tarshansky, 13

Gelienor (Jimmy) Pacheco, 37, Filipino national

Hagar Brodetz, 40

Hanna Katzir, 77

Hila Rotem Shoshani, 12

Ilana Gritzewsky Kimchi, 30

Irena Tati, 73, a Russian citizen, was included on the list but released separately from the exchange deal.

Itay Regev Jerbi, 18

Juckapan Sikena

Judith Raanan, 59 [Released 22/10/23]

Kaid Farhan Alkadi (52) - Rescued by the IDF on 27/08/24.

Karina Engel-Bart, 51, Argentine citizen

Keren Munder, 54

Komkrit Chombua

Kong Saelao

Liam Or, 18

Liat Beinin Atzili, 49, American citizen

Luis Har – Rescued by the IDF

Manee Jirachart

Margalit Mozes, 78, German citizen

Maya Regev Jirbi, 21

Meirav Tal, 53

Mia Leimberg, 17, Argentine citizen

Mia Shem, 21, French citizen

Mika Engel, 18, Argentine citizen

Mongkhol Phajuabboon, Thai national

Moran Stela Yanai, 40

Natalie Raanan, 17 [Released 22/10/23]

Nattaporn Onkaew

Natthawaree Moonkan, Thai national

Naveh Shoham, 8

Nili Margalit, 41

Noa Argamani (26) - Rescued by the IDF on 08/06/24.

Noam Avigdori, 12

Noga Weiss, 18

Noam Or, 17

Noralin Babadilla, 60, born in the Philippines

Nurit Cooper [Released 24/10/23]

Ofri Brodetz, 10

Ohad Munder, 9

Or Yaakov, 16, German citizen

Ori Megidish – Rescued by the IDF

Oriya Brodetz, 4

Owat Suriyasri, 40, father of two

Ofelia Adit Roitman, 77, born in Argentina

Ofir Engel, 17, Dutch citizen

Paiboon Rattanin

Pattanayut Tonsakree

Phonsawan Pinakalo

Ra’aya Rotem, 54

Raz Ben-Ami, 56, German citizen

Rimon Kirsht Buchshtav, 36

Raz Asher, 4, German citizen

Ron Krivoi, 25, an Israeli-Russian citizen, was included on the list, although he was released separately from the exchange deal.

Ruth Munder, 78

Sahar Calderon, 16, French citizen

Santi Boonphrom, Thai national

Sapir Cohen, 29

Shani Goren, 29

Sharon Aloni-Cunio, 34, Argentine citizen

Sharon Hertzman Avigdori, 52

Shlomi Ziv (40) - Rescued by the IDF on 08/06/24.

Shiri Weiss, 53

Shoshan Haran, 67

Surin Kesungnoen

Tal Goldstein-Almog, 8

Tamar Metzger, 78

Uthai Sangnuan, Thai national

Uthai Thunsri, Thai national

Wichai Kalapat, 28, Thai national

Wichian Temthon

Withoon Phumee, 33, Thai national

Yaffa Adar, 85

Yagil Yaakov, 12, German citizen

Yahel Shoham, 3

Yarden Roman-Gat, 35, German citizen

Yelena Trupanov, 50, a Russian citizen, was included on the list but released separately from the exchange deal.

Yocheved Lifshitz [Released 24/10/23]

Yuli Cunio, 3, Argentine citizen

Yuval Brodetz, 8

Yuval Engel, 12, Argentine citizen

[starlightomatic]

ok, another thing about october 7th is that like....

i think a lot of people have a compassion block with it bc they see an analog to 9/11 where it was used to "justify" a war and ultimately the actual people become political props

i guess what i want to, idk, dig at... is how using the people who died, survived, or were taken hostage as political props dehumanizes them and then when that is used as a reason not to care it dehumanizes them further

and then another piece to this is that like. within israel. the israeli government did not really act as though it gave a shit either. initial reports of missing persons etc were done by citizens rather than organized by the government. it took a ridiculous amount of time (was it multiple weeks?) before anyone from the government visited survivors in the hospital. the government dropped the ball with funding temporary housing for people displaced from the gaza envelope and the north, i think its largely been funded by nonprofits. i don't think there's been accountability for the massive security and intelligence failure that led to oct 7 in the first place. basically the government fucked up massively both before and after the attack, didn't take care of victims' families or survivors (not to mention abandoning the hostages to their fate), and regular citizens stepped in to fill that role instead.

so it's like a triple hit for those folks. the israeli government didn't give a shit, they're being used as political props, AND on top of it people around the world don't care and think they deserved it.

all of this to say that if you participate in that dynamic, if you dehumanize the victims, hostages, and survivors in your mind because they're political props, it's actually backwards. it's dehumanizing people who are already dehumanized. them being political props should make you care more, not less.

not to mention that many of the hostages' families have been calling for a ceasefire/hostage deal to get their loved ones back. the niece of carmel gat (one of the hostages) speaks at protests for a deal. the sibling of chaim katzman (one of the people killed) went on the news months ago saying that their brother would not have wanted this war fought in his name.

so it's spitting on that activism as well when you view those folks as on some level responsible for the war because their loved ones are being used justification.

[pissvortex]

Hi! What's your opinion on Hersh Goldberg-Polin, Eden Yerushalmi, Carmel Gat, Alex Lubnov, Ori Danino and Almog Sarusi?

tbh i see them around school we dont talk much but they seem chill 💯

[girlactionfigure]

Baruch Dayan HaEmet

The IDF recovered the bodies of 6 Israeli hostages who were murdered recently in Gaza.

This was Carmel Gat

May her memory be for a blessing.