#call it what it actually is: abuse
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currently thinking of how abusive some hockey coaches are and how players are supposed to act like that sort of stuff is normal
#tw abuse#hockey#hockey culture#the ken klee situation in particular is what has me thinking about it#it has me think of babcock who is already known to be a horrid piece of shit#i think of katey stone who emotionally abused her players in harvard#i think of daryl sutter who went as far as to hit a player#i think of donnie harkins - pkane's honeybaked coach who constantly broke kaner's gear and yelled at him and made him cry#...kane was 14 at the time by the fucking way#john tortorella is also a pretty questionable coach at times too#and yet the players (and fans) are supposed to treat this as “normal”#and im tired of the media also glorifying it too#and im tired of it being shrugged off as “being hard on players”#call it what it actually is: abuse#its not normal. it does nothing except fuck up the players mentally#and in kane's case im genuinely convinced harkins' treatment of him had a pretty ugly mental impact on him#which would probably explain why he kept getting into so much off-ice trouble when he was in his 20s#(but im not a psychologist so...)#sports and abuse
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hot autistic adult women are always saying they're doing fine really and everyone is nice to them and they just need to figure out a few little things and then everything will be perfect
#this is actually not about anyone on here its about my own mother#who refuses to call anyone a fucking asshole or even notice that theyre behaving badly#never been able to figure out if shes actually puzzled by my reactivity and irritability#or if shes just pretending shes puzzled due to some 20th century female behavioral conditioning#shes had three abusive marriages and twice as many abusive or just bad boyfriends#at what point do you just get fed up?#i mean for me i already know the answer but rhetorically?#notice the pattern already#GET MAD#STRIKE AT THEM#ATTACK
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#asoiaf#a song of ice and fire#valyrianscrolls#i feel like i see people bring up this line all tje time to criticize theon and call him awful but its like.#the most blatant obvious line where he looks in the camera and says Haha My Dad Would Beat Me and Call Me Names. Fathers Do That!#and its like. oh my fucking god i knowww . I KNOW people think hes annoying or a piece of shit and he is atrocious dont get me wrong but#hes literally the most blatant metaphor of how abuse can affect a person into who they are#like no shit sherlock he desperately wants the starks to accept him. his actual dad would fucking beat him and he got taken outta that home#and placed in a new one where like one guy liked him as a friend but everyone else was kinda cold#<- WOAH! a metaphor about the foster care system and the way it affects a person.#like fucking obviously he bends over backward to try to get the approval of his peers or have fatherly approval#What else did you expect. Why do you think he makes all those choices ramsay suggests to him about trying to#get the respect of all of his men. he doesnt want to lose the respect. like.#Okay. Done now thank you#grace post
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ive been watching the dog motif show... why is no one talking about this guy. isaac lahey come home from france,,,, sweet boy,,,, we miss you,,,
#teen wolf#fanart#isaac lahey#x#there is actually so much to his character that it makes me wanna gnaw my fingers off#what do you mean he dug his own grave and accepted the bite with the assurance that it would save him from his abuse#but in reality he just traded one angry man for another#and he never escapes this cycle#and there is no other ending to this story#because he gets written off the show but he doesn't even get a tragic death bc the actor wanted to keep all his options open#daniel sharman when i fucking catch you#ugh#also i think this post is very on brand for me#sorry falsettos fans another niche no-demand fandom inside a fandom was calling my name#god i love bad television#punica granatum
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danny and officer martinez's relationship in "late at night, when the nightingale sings" in a nutshell:
Martinez: FREAK! GET YOUR FUCKING KID!
Battinson, on the other side of the crime scene: he don't bite
Martinez, with Nightingale firmly attached his arm, visibly biting him: YES HE DO!
*points at them* Danny is the Bugs Bunny to Martinez's Elmer Fudd.
Another Officer: i can't believe you're fighting with an actual twelve year old. Martinez: i swear to god that is not a twelve year old, that is a little hellion that crawled out of batman's shadow one dark and stormy night and decided to dedicate his existence to tormenting me. Officer: Are you really that mad about him putting a sticky note on your back-- Martinez: thats not the point
in danny's defense: the word "freak" is. a mini beserker button for him for.... obvious ghostly reasons, so like, even if its not directed at him, he still very much unappreciates Martinez's insults at Battinson. Danny may or may not be projecting.
he's not going to hurt the guy! not in any serious or permanently disfiguring way at least! But he is going to leave mean sticky notes on the square part of his spine that he can't reach, and stick salt in his 3AM Late Night Crime Scene Coffee, and kick the bottom of his heel while he's walking so he stumbles. And other petty, infuriating things that tally up and boil over, over time.
#dpxdc#danny fenton is not the ghost king#dp x dc#dpxdc crossover#blood blossom au#dpxdc memes#dpxdc au#the only thing martinez is right about is the fact that danny is. in fact. NOT twelve.#he's just shrimpy because he's half-dead#there's eventually a 'martinez vs nightingale' board in the precinct called the beef board. it tallies every time one of them gets got by#the other. danny is currently in the lead by a wide margin. martinez is very limited in what he can do bc of multiple reasons. but one#of them is the fact that batman HAS punched a cop before. three actually. and he won't hesitate to punch another if martinez actually did#anything to harm nightingale. and also nightingale shows up so rarely and doesnt stick around long enough for martinez to retaliate#or properly plan ahead. its kinda a wild card whether or not nightingale pops up on the scene.#nightingale: i am just a little guy!! the littlest of boy!! baddabing-baddaboom! you wouldn't do nothin to a little guy would'ya?#battinson who atp knows full well that if it werent for the blood blossom danny could turn martinez into a red smear: *would you?*#danny: if it werent for the laws of this land i would have committed acts of violence against You Specifically :)#and also like. every single other officer insulting batman and callin him a freak. they're not safe either martinez is just the poor sucker#that i have a name to give the face to#danny's a good kid but also i don't picture him totally.. hm... mentally stable? he's a little spicy. as a treat.#he's kind at his core but also he found his family's corpses and was isolated from society for 4 months by his abusive godfather and was#poisoned with quite literally the only toxin capable of destroying him entirely and can no longer (currently) use his powers without dying#instantly. so he's! he's doing his best! like between being chaotic and being kind he's def gonna choose being kind but also.#he's living on borrowed time and is in a constant active state of being slowly eaten alive by his own bloodstream. it weighs on ya psyche#danny's barely even processed his family's death and now he's got all this other trauma stacked on top to address. he is Windows EXP rn#tormenting martinez is just. an itty bitty way he can let loose some of the stress he's ignoring.#considering danny's alternate timeline was: world annihilation. he thinks he's doing pretty well all things considered
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All the stupid little things Doctor Harley Sawyer does that endears me to him
-Giggles like a school girl when he closes a door on the player. He thinks it's so funny to mildly inconvenience you. Suffer, germ, go the long way around. He does this multiple times and it never fails to get a laugh out of him.
-Has some kind of soft spot to music; Piansaurus and Yarnaby are near identical in intellect and physical ability, the only advantage Yarnaby had to gain the Doctor's favor was he could play music, and did so when near the Doctor. Also Harley personally requested Yarnaby be able to play music because he thought it'd be funny??? And I just think that's cute.
-Makes old man noises like he's stretching when awoken as a computer and it just feels so Extra. He is not physically capable of stretching but he will stretch and hum and haa like he was just risen from slumber anyway.
-"Innocence is bliss, and she is OH so innocent". The emphasis and mic crackling volume on "OH" in this line delivery does so much to my brain. He hates her cutesy little act so much.
-That fruity ass little wave he does when he yeets you down the trap door
-Bonus also the "not even the ground beneath your feet is yours" at the start of the chapter really didn't fit with what he was saying and I have chosen to interpret it as him setting himself up to do this later. He already knew he was gonna chuck the player down the trap door and he wanted a very cool one-liner call back to go with it.
-Has a habit of picking "Problem Children" specifically for projects, both in Quinn for Yarnaby and Kevin in Doey, even against other scientists judgment. Maybe a remnant of how he was a "problem child" that was removed from a special project because of his difficulty? I love a grown ass man who is projecting his traumas onto Children. Always fun in media.
-Picky eater. That's all. I think it's cute. Fuck sweet pickles you're so right bby those things are nasty <3
-In his logs and tapes he always refers to subjects by their test number and with It/Its pronouns, but for some reason in this chapter he calls them all by their character names and correct pronouns, even the Prototype gets it's name and Pronouns correct. I' just curious about this change in demeanor because it was such a staple of how he interacted with the toys before.
-"Come on in, the Doctor will see you now" The verbal eye roll. The distant annoyance. The boredom when the player escapes his little morality trap. I also really like the light up in his tone when the player DOES kill the Critter to escape.
-Brags that his mind isn't easy to break like the other toys, then gets this real far away tone when in his voice on the elevator ride to his boss fight talking about the bell tolling,. Death is coming. His life's work was to prevent it's approach and yet here it comes, up an elevator shaft, for him.
-"I'll bury myself so far down that no one will ever find me! Not you, Not the Prototype, Not Anyone!" The desperate delivery of this line feeds into the previous point. He is falling apart and he's scared and a lot like Doey he doesn't trust anyone anymore and just wants to be left alone.
-Crying in his death scream
#Harley Sawyer#Poppy Playtime chapter 4#Sorry sorry sorry I just#I think he's just so#Fascinating#Hurt kid hurting kids hurting kids#Poppy Playtime is a real cycle of abuse game and I just#I'm always so much more fascinated on the Start of the cycle in those kinds of stories#That one headcanon post that said Harley's 'you didn't save anyone' death voice line was more at himself than the player#Got me COOKING#I think... he really meant well......#He's not a good person he's not a caring person#But he did mean well he did believe what he was doing was for good reason#I actually do think we should compare him to Doey just in the ways they react to being Hurt#I guess though specifically Kevin#They both want to isolate. They both don't trust anymore.#It's interesting to me how they cope and Don't Cope with the situations their in#Also I'm scumming the wiki cause I'll be honest I did not watch all the tapes personally#And I love that the Wiki calls him out as 'Childish' for being a picky eater and violently against sweet pickles#Like... I'd still call him childish but more for his angry outbursts or the way he giggles at closing a door at someone#And not because he has Food Preferences.#Anyway I like this guy I think he's weird#Another kind messed up guy I want to be the emotional support for
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Relativity Falls but at the end of the summer Stan learns the very important lesson of not being “selfish” and returns to New Jersey alone.
Through the years the excuses as to why Stan can’t come visit pile up. He broke his leg, caught the flu, has a summer job, broke a vase in the shop and is under house arrest etc etc.
Ford eventually gets fed up with all the excuses and stops calling home. Stan obviously doesn’t want to see him anymore now that he got other friends with his freak of a brother out of the picture.
3 years pass and the police are standing in front of the Shack.
Filbrick Pines is dead and Stan is nowhere to be found.
[or alternatively the police brought Stan to live with them now that Filbrick died, but Stan is almost unrecognizable from the boy who left three years ago. He's polite and keeps to himself, but there's a rage just beneath the surface that makes others question if there is more to Filbricks death than meets the eye.]
#gravity falls#stanley pines#relativity falls#tw child abuse#at least implied#did stan kill filbrick? yea. was self defense. not that that makes it better for stan#The thing is Mabel and Dipper projected themselves far too hard onto the kids.Obviously Ford is like Dipper and Stan like Mabel. #So they need to teach Stan to be less selfish and give Ford a safe space away from bullies or the pressure to succeed.#Stan just needs to learn to give Ford some space and let him have his own things and friends. #No Stan. Just because Ford made a friend doesn't mean you’re Fidds friend as well. Go and play with your own friends.#[Stan doesn’t have friends. He’s not like Mabel but in between all the failed crushes no one realised that. He only has Ford.#No one who actually gets to know Stan wants him to be around for long.] #But the problem is he’s really good at pretending he's fine. He always had to be fine after being hurt when he protected Ford from bullies#or when his mother was sad after a fight with Filbrick. And he was certainly never allowed to show weakness in front of his father.#He learned that lesson the hard way.#Sidenote: Ford not wanting to play with Stan anymore now that he's got someone smarter to talk to :’)#It sure proves all of Stan's fears to be right.#Throughout the summer no one sees that Stan is incredibly lonely and scared of losing Ford. And it's not helping his crippling self worth#issues when Mabel tries to talk to him about how she used to be quite selfish as well. And about what Stan can do to be better.#Trust them. Mabel and Dipper have been through the same thing. They’ll help so history won’t repeat itself.#Stan returns to parents in the middle of a divorce. Caryn leaves withShermie and Stan has to stay behind with Filbrick. It doesn’t go well.#Filbrick won't let Stan have his own phone or pc. All calls are supervised and Stan cant visit Ford when he can earn his keep instead. #Stans too scared to bother Ford and reach out to him because that would be selfish. And he can’t lose his brother more than he already has.#Dipper and Mabel really messed up that one. They wanted the twins to be less codependent and not do the same mistakes they did#and didn’t realise they only helped one kid :’).This isn't meant to be character bashing or even commentary on canon Mabel.#Just a little excuse for more stangst XD I also like to think they don't have the same story as the Stans in this AU.#They're different people with different parents and different dreams.#No way it would end the same way. They probably just didn't talk for a couple of years or something.#if anyone know a fic like this TELL ME surely someone wrote something like this. i need it.#time to sleep amd think about stan being lonely and hurt and calling ford to tell him that he cant visit again
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This may just be me, but I think if you ship a canonically very abusive, manipulative and toxic relationship, you don't get to judge or call anyone degenerates for their own fucked up ships, actually.
#gravity falls#billford#stancest#yeah it's about those two specifically#but this could apply to shipping in general#i just saw an artist i generally like saying “it's so disappointing seeing artists i liked ship stancest and be proud pls be ashamed!”#saying it's disgusting and gross and the people in their comments were all in consesus that these people are weird and sickos yada yada#and i don't think they realise that it's the exact same logic people use to hate on billford shippers. like down-to-the-letter the same.#it's weird seeing people be like if you ship incest you're gross and disgusting but if it's abuse it's totes ok and doesn't reflect you irl#not only does that reasoning insinuate that incest is not another form of abuse which is YIKES#but it reads as tho abuse is not “severe enough” to stop people from shipping it while incest is even tho both are very bad which is worse#you either believe that what you ship reflects you irl and no one should ship anything immoral or you don't. it's just that simple.#you don't get to pull that “rules for thee but not for me” bullshit#your rationalisation does more to normalise and water down these crimes than someone shipping them while acknowledging it's wrong ever will#i don't even ship stancest or have any feelings on it whatsoever btw i'm just enough of a loudmouth to call out hypocrisy when i see it#unrelated but i need to stop making my tags longer than the actual freaking post 💀#momento rambles
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Imagine if you were a gay or bi man who tried a certain firefighter show because of all the attention it was getting for one of its mains having a later in life bi awakening.....and between seasons you ventured into its fandom in search of material to tide you over til the next one. And you're greeted by a deluge of posts and fics that are just cheerfully homophobic towards one half of the newly out bi character's canon relationship on the basis of 'well he's not the RIGHT gay guy' and pushing the idea that actually its fine to cheat on him because Reasons and he's sexually predacious based on......behind the scenes implications people have divined like they're reading fucking tea leaves.
But don't get it twisted....this fandom, like all fandoms, really cares about representation!
Sorry not sorry, but we really need to kill this idea that fandoms are welcoming and inviting and inherently progressive when they're frequently insular and reductive as fuck. Every single fandom I've been in has had major trends of people doubling down on their own headcanons and fanon interpretations of the characters and willfully enacting trends aimed at running off people who like the 'wrong' characters (usually characters marginalized along one or multiple axes), like the characters in the 'wrong ways' or other bullshit.
Scott is a Bad Friend fics overtaking Teen Wolf fandom was not incidental, it was a FEATURE of the fandom, because the vast majority of that fandom did not want to share its space with anyone who had the nerve to like its main character. Survivors complaining about or criticizing the prevalance of rape fics in a certain fandom has in my experience always led to a reactionary UPTICK in those fics, with gems like 'this character can, will, must be raped' in the tags making it crystal clear that some of these fics exist because how fucking DARE anyone try and push forth a narrative not agreed upon by Fandom Main.
I could cite examples for so many other fandoms, with the commonalities always being that vast majorities in these fandoms are explicitly reacting defensively to being asked to be more mindful of fandom trends revolving around or exacerbating racism, homophobia, transphobia, rape or abuse apologia, ableism, etc....
With the most prolific fucking rallying cry across countless fandoms being "No the fuck we will NOT be doing that," because lolololol.....
Fandom is an inherently progressive space, didn't you hear?
#anyway this has been on my mind in general for a few weeks now#and its more about fandoms just being fandoms#and like....what if they werent though#these patterns migrate from one to another as fans migrate from fandom to fandom bringing their bullshit with them#like do people never get tired of just trying to call DIBS and claim fandoms for themselves while shutting out anyone else#who might have a lot to fucking offer if you werent being so gd intent on staking a claim instead of sharing perspectives#and exploring new possibilities?#and I know not everyone links certain problems with racist homophobic and other behaviors to my own issues with dark fic and rape and#abuse apologia but I do inherently see it as sharing large portions of venn diagrams even though I do not consider being a survivor to be#something that demarcates privilege in the way that axes of identity do#as its situationally based rather than inherently identity based#but the way it can affect and shape large parts of peoples' identities begets commonalities#but my point is just.....a big part of why I so often lump it in is specifically because of how people react to these things or#defend against criticism across the board#like most people know my stance on censorship and how my blood boils when its people who are throwing accusations of#censorship at those raising criticisms....#but the point is just.....think about what censorship actually IS in all practical senses of the word#its about shutting down conversations. limiting the flow of information the sharing of perspectives and experiences#THATS WHAT MAKES IT BAD#now......what about criticism inherently lends itself to any of those things if you DONT accept as a foregone conclusion that criticism#is only ever offered up in bad faith and meant as a silencing tactic#instead of just a request or offered avenue of ways for things to be done better rather than not at all?#who is ACTUALLY out here trying to shut down convos and limit possibilities?#is it really the people being critical of fandom behaviors and trends?#or the ones doubling down at the first hint of any criticism and aggressively ramping up how frequently and visibly they engage in#the criticized behaviors in efforts to drive people away or as a silencing tactic of their own?#just saying
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Sometimes I like to consider what Bateman would be like if he'd gone into something other than finance...
Anyway more hospital AU content. Eat up.
((TW: Patrick being himself. Misogyny, being a creep, blood, cringe ass dialogue, etc.))
#patrick bateman#american psycho#my art#AP hospital AU#anyway to the like 3 of you that liked my AU post eat up ig#tw // blood#cw//#tw//medical abuse#not sure what else to call that but this mf is a walking red flag so be warned.#((I cannot reiterate enough he sucks guys he's actually terrible))#I'm actually terrible at writing dialogue it's sort of bad LMAO it's cringe sorry guys </3
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I don't know who needs to hear this but:
The British Mandate of Palestine =/= the State of Palestine.
There has never been a Palestinian state. That's not trying to justify anything or whatever, it's just the fucking history. The area now known as Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories was once "Judea" the homeland of the Jewish People, a self governing region/country/area. It was then colonised by multiple empires, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Arab Caliphate, the Ottoman Empire the British, Empire. None of these are a Palestinian states; these are all the result of imperialist colonising ideologies.
There could have been a self determined state in 1948 but instead there was a war because proto-Israel was attacked and defended herself.
If you need to rewrite history to justify your hate, maybe you're not as progressive as you want to think you are.
Edit: as I've said many times, I'm very pro 2-state solution. This post is not about that but I will not have this being used by other people to straw man me and lie about my beliefs
#like its possible to criticise the israeli government without straight up lying about the history of the land#and you know what... if you dont straight up lie in your argument people take you seriously!#if you redefine legally defined definitions and change history to fit your argument people will just ignore you#and they're right to do so because you are obviously deeply unserious and habe no interest in actually moving towards peace#grow up#if your movement acted like adults then maybe they would be taken seriously#if your movement acts like antisemites and racists then thats how you will be treated#if you abuse people calling for peace because it's peace for all and not destruction for the villains in your mind then you aren't peaceful#peace is for all#not just the people you've woobified into infantile innocence#vents
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chat what if i made the angstiest animatic of lloyd and harumi and their horribly toxic relationship. would i be burned at the stake and called a llorumi shipper. or does media literacy still exist in the world
#ninjago#lego ninjago#ciftrchats#i’m not a llorumi shipper#i don’t think they should be in a relationship#however. i think that they are both messed up enough and have such weird convoluted feelings for each other#that they would be#and it would suck#and i need to observe them as it gets worse#does this make sense#like they really have the most interesting dynamic and i need to be able to make stuff about it without people trying to call me a llorumi#llorumi shipper*#like no it’s just part of the show#yeah it’s abusive and sucks and lloyd should get a restraining order and harumi should get a therapist and jail time#but it also is what it is i didn’t make the show#i didn’t write them having feelings for each other#that wasn’t me go blame the writers#i think that’s odd as hell actually#why did they do that#but hey i’m going to explore that idea bc they both don’t know how to take care of themselves#and they both would 100% get into an abusive relationship#so maybe i will make that animatic actually
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ya know for a fandom that is screaming from the rooftops that the books are ‘dark fantasy’ they sure do complain about people taking those darker elements at face value or even god-forbid exploring them
#idk I was just thinking about how I could make acotar worse because my own life is feeling like hell rn lmao#and it just kinda reminded me that….. literally everyone I’ve ever seen praise this series has called it a dark romance where the villain#gets the girl. but then……when we correctly point out that to be a villain rhys specifically has to do bad things and not be remorseful#suddenly we’re reading too much into it and that’s not what the author intended and we’re just being haters or even abuse apologists#idk idk it just feels like they (the fandom at large ig) claim that they like a certain thing- in this dark romance- but when they’re#confronted with the reality of that thing/trope they want the moral superiority/clear conscious of not actually having that thing/trope#or even having to actually engage with it#and this is coming from someone that hates dark romance!!!#I can’t fucking stand it and I hate the prevalence and normalization of it from tiktok/instagram#but if you’re saying you’re reading a book because it had this specific trope then stand on business!#you can’t have it both ways eventually you gotta pick one#either you do actually like dark romances and villain love interests#or you want the mmc to always be in the right and good to the fmc at all times and morally pure#anti rhysand#anti sjm#sjm critical#anti cassian#anti feysand#anti nessian#acotar critical#anti acotar fandom#fandom critical#gold talks.tag
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can i be fr for a minute?? sending abuse to people online for holding different views than you is not activism and in fact actively hurts your cause. most people are not extreme in their viewpoints, you can give them a new perspective if you're willing to spend some time explaining shit. if someone is saying something you disagree with and you rush in there to condescend to them and call them disgusting and subhuman and dont even TRY to explain calmly why their views are harmful, they're going to shut you out instantly and double down on their views.
most people are simply genuinely ignorant to the issues they're talking about - they just pick their views up from the news and the world around them and express opinions because that's what every person does. if you run in there and tell them they're scum for it, what then? if someone does that to you, are you going to think "maybe i should do some research" or are you going to think "this person is an asshole, im blocking them." a lot of you think you're activists and then refuse to do any kind of actual WORK to support your cause.
#this is not about the isr*el thing even tho thats obviously a huge issue rn#its just a pattern ive observed online#im not saying you have to be kind to people who oppress you dont twist my words#but if youre trying to support any cause and you think calling people names is going to help#youre a fucking idiot lol#people call themelves activists and pro-X cause because they called their opposition dirty c*nts online#how the hell is that meant to help anyone? theyre just going to retreat into their propaganda chambers because you proved what the leaders#of those spaces have been telling them#you can obvs block people if you dont want to deal w them but thats a neutral action. sending abuse harms ur cause.#text#like educating ignorant people is hard work! yeah! its also the entire fucking point of activisim#and if you think its too much effort then just stop pretending you give a shit tbh#like my parents managed to change our neighbour's very xenophobic stance on migrants with a calm conversation#some people will listen and some wont and shes not exactly going out to protests for migrants rights but shes not hostile anymore#and a lot of yall think that isnt good enough but let me tell you it IS good because these things take time!#unlearning things is MUCH harder than learning them in the first place and a lot of people grew up in environments that taught them#very discriminatory and conservative views and its actually not their fault. and its hard to educate yourself differently on something you#have no idea is not true. where do you start w that?
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consistently I'm a little annoyed about the rift between c!Tommy and c!Dream fans in this fandom. like I like your guy too! I think he's great! actually, I think our guys have a lot in common! I'd love to see your take on this really messy, complicated relationship!
oh wait you think c!Dream is a pure evil, completely heartless villain that exists to do nothing but torment c!Tommy, who is of course a sweet innocent uwu baby who did absolutely nothing wrong, and therefore deserves to be murdered twice, imprisoned, isolated, starved, and tortured with no control over his own autonomy (but prison was actually way better than exile, which was the worst thing that ever happened to anyone on the dsmp. obviously. because c!Tommy tried to kill himself. yeah. don't think about c!Dream walking into a wall of lava and burning himself to death multiple times because he was so incredibly desperate for human connection. that was to escape, right? c!Dream couldn't possibly feel real emotions -- that would mean he's a person that -- oh no -- deserves compassion despite the terrible things he did. oh no -- that would make him -- gasp -- a lot like c!Tommy!) and actually he deserved more than that. he was never actually punished. c!Dream always won (citation needed).
also, c!Tommy was a child. do I have to say that again. well, I will anyway. c!Tommy was a child. c!Tommy was a child. c!Tommy was a child.
great.
#discourse#dreblr#c!discduo#to clarify I don't think c!Tommy deserved exile#obviously#no one deserves to be manipulated and abused and bullied#I don't think anyone actually thinks that exile was a good thing#to be fair#it's a really annoying strawman but people keep bringing it up#c!Tommy went through some pretty horrific shit!#but so did c!Dream#there is no law on the dsmp#if you're mad at c!Dream because he blew up L'Manberg -- good for you#in the nicest way possible I do not care#doomsday was not a crime#no one even died#DOOMSDAY WAS NOTHING MORE THAN PROPERTY DAMAGE#what would you call c!Tommy griefing c!George's house again?#sorry for ranting#I'm just tired of not being able to follow like any c!tommy apologist blogs because they have inevitably posted#super rancid takes about c! and cc!dream#why is c!discduo discourse such a mess#why can't we be friends#I don't want to argue with any post directly because I think that's rude#but I wish we could have lore discussions in good faith and actually learn about each others' favorite characters#without accusing each other of being abuse apologists or whatever#I know I came off as kinda mean here#I'm sorry#no one's going to read this anyway#I'm just sensitive and this is frustrating
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it makes me wanna scream that both bruce and jason have been referred to as a prince of gotham. you literally don't understand how i feel about this!
bc on the one hand, for bruce, it's a statement on who he is and what he comes from and his family's influence on gotham.
but on the other, for jason, it's what he could be, it's what willis wanted for him. he wanted his son to be something more and for him to have a better life and a future that willis didn't have and catherine gave up.
for bruce it's a name for the media! it's a tagline on a magazine!
for jason it's a sign of love! it's a hope for the future! it's full of potential!
its something about unintentional parallels
#personal post#im feeling many things all at once.#don't care for willis todd but it's a mixed bag ig#bc he was definitely abusive to jay and catherine later on and some of what he tells jason in his letters very well could be him bein an#unreliable narrator yknow? like he's seeing their life & his parenting w rose colored glasses almost#but him wanting better for jason n calling him his prince of gotham got me im not even gonna lie#+ alfred calls jason a prince of gotham and that got me i had to take a minute#that's from one of the few issues of rhato 2011 i actually read tbh#didn't like how they characterized basically everyone
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