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fenrysmoonbeamswife · 16 hours ago
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The difference is plain old misogyny and favoritism. They didn't care that she hated herself. Amren called her a pathetic waste of life, Cassian said he didn't understand how her sisters loved her, Rhysand hates her, Mor said she should be thrown into Hewn City. They don't care about that. They don't care how she feels or why she's doing it, they only care about how it makes them look and the fact that they aren't involved
Nesta drank and danced because she enjoyed it and they still had an issue with that so where's the excuse for that? What's the difference there? Nothing
I wish people would stop trying to put a deeper meaning on their blatant hypocrisy
"Cassian normally looked forward to Winter Solstice for a host of reasons, starting with the usual three days of drinking with his family and ending with the riotous fun of his annual snowball fight with his brothers. Followed by a steam in the birchin and more drinking, usually until all three of them passed out in variously stupid positions. One year, he'd awoken wearing a blond wig and nothing but an evergreen garland around his groin like a loincloth. It had itched and scratched awfully—though it was nothing compared to his pounding hangover.
But yeah, god forbid Nesta drink and have sex
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hrizantemy · 3 days ago
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me when i hear people defend feyre attacking the lady of autumn by saying she didn’t mean to/beron was her intended target: 
 how 
 how is that better?
like okay we all hate beron but he’s still a high lord, still someone you invited to form an alliance/negotiate with diplomatically. in a court where you are a guest might i add. you are a child they all saw practically naked two days ago, now playing house with a man (sorry, male) who willingly or otherwise tormented them for the better part of half a century .. because he gave you a pretty crown? how does one expect these old ass fae to not be condescending or reluctant? i’d have asked her to let the adults do the talking if she was piping in every two seconds telling me what to think and how to act.
the high lords’ meeting is my roman empire because it’s one of those instances where you have to let your jaw hit the floor because in what world - except one where sjm expects everyone to love her blorbo’s for all their correct opinions and positions - did any of that work?? with no consequences?? in fact they’re rewarded for their behaviour: tarquin rescinds the blood rubies, everyone’s chiming in about how they knew rhysand was the good guy all along, no one cares about the high lord who is why they’re all free rn (okay feyre broke the curse — tamlin’s curse. tamlin killed amarantha. he is why rhysand is free to rewrite history and the others have a future) i’m surprised there wasn’t a scene where the lady of autumn apologises to feyre for being in the way of her attack smh
This is one of the reasons I cannot like Feyre. The justification that she “didn’t mean to” attack the Lady of Autumn or that “Beron was her intended target” makes absolutely no sense and, frankly, makes the situation worse. How is it any better that her recklessness and inability to control her powers led to an innocent woman nearly being killed? The Lady of Autumn was already a victim of Beron’s abuse and violence, and Feyre—who should, of all people, understand the trauma of being hurt or manipulated by powerful individuals—just becomes another threat to her. How is that defensible in any way?
Even if Beron was her intended target, that doesn’t excuse the collateral damage of almost killing someone who was completely uninvolved in the fight. Feyre’s powers are vast, yes, but she constantly wields them with this mix of entitlement and carelessness that makes her more of a liability than a hero. It’s one thing to make mistakes; it’s another to make catastrophic ones and have people excuse them as if the consequences don’t matter.
And let’s be real—Feyre is never held accountable for these actions. The narrative either brushes it off or turns it into another moment for someone to coddle her and tell her how amazing she is. Meanwhile, the Lady of Autumn is left to fend for herself, as usual, trapped in her abusive marriage, and probably now terrified of Feyre as well. The complete lack of responsibility Feyre takes—or is made to take—for her actions is one of the biggest reasons I can’t root for her. She’s not a savior; she’s a wrecking ball with a savior complex.
The entire High Lords meeting was, without question, a complete disaster. It was supposed to be this grand gathering where the courts would come together to ally against Hybern, but instead, it devolved into petty squabbles, veiled insults, and outright hostility. Rhysand, for all his posturing as the most “progressive” High Lord, walked into the meeting with an attitude so smug it practically dared the others to disagree with him. Tamlin, true to form, took the bait and immediately turned the whole thing into a personal grievance fest. Beron was his usual insufferable self, Helion was flirting, and everyone else seemed more interested in holding grudges than actually saving the world.
Nobody trusted anyone, and honestly, who could blame them? These are the same people who’ve been at each other’s throats for centuries, and now they’re supposed to just shake hands and work together? Rhysand’s attempts at diplomacy mostly amounted to thinly veiled threats, Feyre’s speeches did little to inspire confidence, and Amren just sat there looking like she wanted to kill someone. It was all spiraling into chaos.
And then came Nesta.
Nesta, who was barely even acknowledged as part of the delegation. Nesta, who didn’t care about politics, alliances, or playing nice. Nesta, who was so angry, so filled with righteous fury, that her words cut through the nonsense like a blade. When she stood up and spoke about what Hybern had done, about what they would do if the High Lords didn’t put aside their differences and act, she commanded the room. She didn’t appeal to their egos or try to manipulate them; she just told the truth in the most raw, unflinching way possible.
Her speech wasn’t about Rhysand’s court, or Tamlin’s grudges, or Beron’s smug indifference. It was about the people who would suffer and die if they didn’t unite. It was about the horrors she had witnessed and endured. It was about the cost of their pride and their inaction. And for the first time in the entire meeting, there was silence.
That speech was the turning point. It was the reason the High Lords agreed to set aside their centuries of animosity and work together. Not because of Feyre’s attempts to “inspire” them, not because of Rhysand’s threats, but because Nesta Archeron reminded them of what was at stake.
And here’s the kicker: even after she was the one who secured the alliances they needed, the credit still went elsewhere. Feyre, Rhysand, and their crew walked away looking like the saviors, while Nesta was left on the sidelines again. The meeting may have been a mess, but Nesta was the only reason it wasn’t an outright failure.
Bonus mention: My man Thesan was the only unproblematic one at that entire meeting. He showed up, minding his own business, probably thinking, “I am a healer, not a referee for this soap opera.” While everyone else was busy airing centuries of dirty laundry, Thesan was out here like, “So
 about that war threatening all our lives?”
He didn’t come for the drama, didn’t throw unnecessary shade, and managed to keep his court from looking like an absolute circus. Honestly, if I were him, I would’ve been this close to kicking the entire Night Court delegation out.
If anyone deserved to walk out of that meeting with dignity, it was Thesan. The man probably, sat down with a glass of wine after, and said, “Never again.”
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youareatragedy · 22 hours ago
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"Shut up! Everyone in ACOTAR is flawed, and that’s why we like them!
True. But when you only like the characters your favorite character likes, it becomes a double standard. It’s a problem when you like these characters so much that you refuse to admit how problematic they actually are. It’s a problem when you’re so biased that just because your favorite character dislikes Character A, nothing that character A does—whether it’s saving universes or saving your favorite character’s life—matters to you. It’s a problem when you stop thinking critically and justify destroying an entire country as revenge against an ex, simply because it aligns with what makes your favorite character happy.
That’s childish. That’s not how adults should consume media. What’s next? If SJM had Rhysand say that Illyrian women should live in a Handmaid’s Tale society, would you applaud it and say, "Oh good, that makes sense. Rhys is awesome. Finally, the females in Illyria have a clear purpose"? I’m begging this fandom to stop being cringe and step away from this "if I say jump, you ask how high" mentality.
Rhysand isn’t warming your bed at night. Calling Nesta an ungrateful bitch—when she’s simply young, setting boundaries, and healing at her own pace—sends a harmful message to the real world, whether you realize it or not. Similarly, shouting that Rhys was SA’d while insisting Tamlin should have just submitted to Amarantha sends another damaging message—and neither are messages we should be okay with.
Rhys isn’t real. Cassian isn’t real. The Inner Circle isn’t going to show up with Christmas presents and hot chocolate to chat with you and ask you to be a part of their "found family".
Turn your brains ON. Love Rhys and the IC, but don’t be blind to the fact that they’re insanely toxic characters who should face consequences. And stop calling people who like Nesta or Tamlin "abuser apologists" when you’re willing to ignore Rhys and Cassian beating up a very traumatized Azriel or gloss over the fact that Feyre endured SA by Rhys UTM.
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ladydeath-vanserra · 2 days ago
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seem to have struck a chord with some people by saying Cassian was Nestas caretaker and should never have had sex with her throughout the entirety of ACOSF
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tilseptemberends · 2 days ago
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Man, I get so annoyed when I see people using Rhysand's parents as an example to justify Cassian not acting like Nesta’s mate.
Rhysand threatened to kill Nesta to Cassian's face and Cassian proceeded to punish Nesta for actions she was already feeling regret for and given her growth at that point likely would have apologized to Feyre in private for. (If they even let her speak to Feyre in private that is)
Rhysand's father realized that his mate's wings were going to be clipped and misted every other person involved in the situation to stop it from happening. When she was later killed by Tamlin's father and brothers Rhysand's father took Rhys to the Spring Court to kill Tamlin's entire family.
It's not the same.
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the-darkestminds · 7 months ago
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motherrstorm · 2 months ago
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elain: my entire world was turned upside down, my body was violated, and I'm really struggling to grasp this new lifestyle. Im not ready to face lucien or acknowledge the mate bond at all.
the ic: okay elain, that's absolutely okay. we'll let you have your space from everything + lucien and give you protection from him should you need it.
nesta: my entire world was turned upside down, my body was violated, and I'm really struggling to grasp this new lifestyle. Im not ready to face cassian or acknowledge the mate bond at all.
the ic: LMAOOO. you're going to stay with him in a house you can't leave, he's going to be your caretaker and have influence over your day to day tasks, he's going to take you on dangerous missions for us, and we don't gaf that he's fucking you when impulsively having sex is one of the reasons why we put you in the house.
ps: if you don't listen to him, we'll deport you. good luck babe💋!
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kataraavatara · 10 months ago
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these were a little too real for tiktok. maybe someday

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seleneprince · 5 months ago
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ACOSF, except that Nesta refuses to move to the House of Wind and packs her bags to leave to the "human lands", but instead of actually going there, she stops at the Spring Court and kinda forces Tamlin to take her in. After all, Spring is close enough to the human lands and she's sure none of the IC would look for her Spring.
She and Tamlin clash at first, but then Nesta tells him that Feyre wanted to lock her in the House of Wind for "her own good" and Tamlin has to take a walk outside the house to not break anything because what the fuck? Those people haven't forgiven him for locking Feyre up to protect her and make him miserable because of it, but suddenly it's okay when they do it? Unbelievable.
They drink together and bond over the Night Court's hypocrisy, how they were treated by them, and Feyre. They start living together. Tamlin plays the music and Nesta dances to it. They spend time in silence in his library or taking relaxing strolls around the garden. Nesta does more healing there that she could've done in the House of Wind. Eventually, she and Tamlin become good friends.
Oh, and she meets Eris again and they actually get to know each other outside the Night Court's machinations. They have a slowburn romance and get married eventually, turning Nesta into the High Lady of Autumn. She helps Tamlin rebuild his court and strikes an alliance between both courts, and she thrives with positive relationships and a man that genuinely loves her and doesn't try to change her.
Also Lucien makes up with Tamlin and returns to Spring, adding him to Nesta's friendship circle.
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roseadleyn · 2 months ago
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is nesta archeron truly a bitch, or are you all inherently misogynystic and expect women to be friendly and laugh freely ( or whatever bullshit sjm wrote at all times), and the minute a woman doesn't conform to your rigid standards of what makes a woman worthy of respect — which in itself is insane — you simply must demonize her and call her every derogatory name ever
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litteraslegit · 2 months ago
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No. of people who have claimed that Rhysand is the most powerful High Lord in Prythian:
Rhysand
Inner circle
Feyre after falling for his self-centered ass.
And no one else :)
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gwandas · 7 months ago
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you guys ever think about how cassian’s insecurities were completely made up by the voices in his head while nesta’s insecurities are affirmed by cassian at every presenting opportunity
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hrizantemy · 2 days ago
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Day 18 of ACOTAR Games: This or That
Which do you prefer?
Nesta as a scholastic traveller in Prythian
Nesta as a ballet dancer in Midgard
Your contenders: @achaotichuman @litnerdwrites @umthisistheonlyusernamenottaken
I love the idea of Nesta Archeron as a scholarly traveler in Prythian. It’s not just the absurdity of imagining her, with her sharp tongue and even sharper glares, navigating the politics of the courts armed with nothing but ink-stained fingers and an overstuffed satchel. It’s the hilarity of the situations she would definitely find herself in—half because of her curiosity and half because she refuses to take anyone’s nonsense.
Just imagine it: Nesta dragging herself across Prythian, collecting rare tomes, scrolls, and stories, looking perfectly composed until you notice the smudge of dirt on her nose or the way her boots squelch because she refused to ask anyone for help crossing a swamp. She’d be that traveler who arrives at court looking like she spent a month wrestling kelpies, only to haughtily inform everyone that she is there on scholarly business.
The potential for comedy is endless.
The beauty of Nesta as a traveler is that she would be good at it—methodical, curious, and brilliant—but she’d still clash with every personality and situation imaginable. Feyre would try to micromanage her travels. Rhysand would insist on slipping into her itinerary like a nosy chaperone. Cassian would show up uninvited, insisting that she couldn’t possibly go anywhere dangerous alone, and Nesta would snap, “You are the danger, Cassian!”
In the end, Nesta’s travels would be less about her academic pursuits and more about her outsmarting everyone who doubts her. And if she ends up publishing a scathing treatise titled On the Utter Uselessness of Fae Males in Times of Crisis, well
 that’s just a bonus.
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shadowqueenjude · 7 months ago
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Eris is one of the only people who can keep up with Nesta on the dance floor, Bryce is a dancer, Lucien as a courtier can certainly dance, Gwyn and Azriel can sing songs for Nesta to dance to, Nesta is constantly compared to a queen and Helion wants her (Rhys too but he’s in denial) and Lanthys promises to crown her the queen of queens, Nesta loves reading and so does Lucien, Tamlin canonically has a giant library and so does Helion, and you’re telling me Nesta ended up with
that.
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ladydeath-vanserra · 4 months ago
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imagine having Nesta being compared to royalty, to an untouchable queen only to have her end up with a man who laughs at her falling down the stairs and not the untouchable prince of the autumn court
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infiniteetcetera · 7 months ago
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One of the most annoying things to me about the “poor Cassian he’s just a sad little brute of a warrior and Nesta makes him feel so inferior” arc in ACOSF is that it’s literally ALL CASSIAN’S OWN FAULT. Yes, his early childhood is especially traumatic and unfair but he was taken in by Rhys and his mother young enough (even earlier than Azriel) that he was given far more luxuries than any of the other Illyrians. The timeline is a bit screwy for the bat boys early days but Rhys took power relatively young after the war and Cassian was immediately put into a high ranking position of political power. He has all the money/power/luxuries he could want and also he’s FIVE HUNDRED+ YEARS OLD.
This man is not some poor sad underdog being belittled by a LITERAL TWENTY YEAR OLD WHO SPENT MOST OF HER LIFE IN POVERTY. Even the foil they try to do between him and Eris for sympathy is ridiculous. Yes, Eris is politically strategic, well dressed, knows how to dance and be diplomatic but CASSIAN COULD BE THOSE THINGS TOO and we know that not just because it’s obvious from his standing (which again he’s had for centuries) but because LITERALLY AZRIEL IS.
Azriel is described as the politest one constantly (even better at it than Rhys), Azriel knows how to dance expertly with Nesta (without needing sudden training from Mor), Azriel knows how to handle Eris and general diplomacy and AZRIEL HAD THE SAME UPBRINGING AS CASSIAN IF NOT A WORSE ONE. Again, the weird dichotomy they try to create between Cassian and Nesta about their social standing is ridiculous enough because it misrepresents Nesta but also the victimization of Cassian as if it’s somehow the worlds fault for his behavior and vilifying of people like Eris and Nesta for calling him out on it is insane.
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