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Another arcane head-Cannon I haven't seen
(but probably exists somewhere)
Trans fem caitlyn need I say more.
So there isn't much to why I think this, besides the fact I think it would be interesting to her character. I think the idea of Cait being trans brings some interesting ideas about her life.
I also think it's weird that some people say you need a reason shown in said media to head-cannon something like Transness. This specific idea, in my experience, has only been used towards people headcannoning trans women. It's always used in a hateful way, trying to discredit a head-cannon. I like headcannoning transness as a trans person myself (Demiboy he/they). (Sorry for going on a rant about non arcane related things/getting a bit controversial there. is this controversial? Idk? I would hope not.)
In the end, I wanted to share my head-cannon of caitlyn being trans cause I don't see it much, but I want to.
#look at her she is trans fem#that is a trans women#i will die on this hill#arcane headcanon#hesdcannon#caitlyn arcane#arcane league of legends#arcane#arcane trans#trans women#trans#transgender#arcane caitlyn#lol caitlyn#caitlyn kiramman#trans caitlyn#caitlyn trans#caitlyn trans women#transgender women
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Its not a shock to me that most "transandrophobia doesn't exist" people are trans women, mostly white trans women. They have a very specific image of what a trans man looks like and it's only two categories: the hyper fem, tits out, make up, twink trans man who doesn't pass nor try to and the hyper masculine, bearded, t'd up, all the surgeries, big buff trans man who you could never clock. They genuinely think every "transandrophobia truther" is lieing about not getting privileges they don't fucking have.
They genuinely believe every trans man passes and therefore we get male privilege and they get backed up by trans men who do pass and think a cis man making rape jokes with them and asking about their lift set is male privilege. Lemme shatter the illusion because as much as you like to scream about some wide spread privilege that doesn't exist, most trans people, in general, do not pass. This is especially true for trans men due to the hyperfocus society puts on feminine features. I have never met a fully passing trans man and I've met over a hundred personally irl. never. I know they exist but the fact y'all think we, en masse, get male privilege is factually just fucking wrong.
Trans men are not more acceptable or palatable to transphobes. Trans men are not more likely to pass. Trans men in mass do not get male privilege by virtue of our lack of passing and our medical history. Most trans men are still affected by the gender pay gap and thus can not afford surgeries.
You do not acknowledge the existence of non-passing trans men, only uphold the voices of trans men who pass and have the money for surgeries (a small percentage) then wonder why trans men laugh in your face when you make claims about male privilege we do not experience.
We are more likely to be conversionally raped than you. We are more like to be forcibly detransioned than you. We are more likely to experience domestic violence than you. We are more likely to experience hate crimes than you.
Trans men's hyper visibility in online spaces dose not transfer to real life visibility. You are more likely to see white cis gay men and white trans women in any media or ever mentioned than even white cis lesbians or white trans men. Your rhetoric is the origin of the "theyfab" myth. Our issues are invisible to you cause you do not care about other trans people besides yourself and other transfems. Everyone and their trans mother knows about transmysogny and the issues you personally face yet you expect trans men to be silent about their issues and feel like they should be silent because they are men. Trans men are more likely to experience litterally all forms of violence over trans women in every single avenue of violence that exists; religious, sexual, domestic, familial, etc. We are more likely to be stopped and abused before we socially transtion than anyone else due to hyper vigilance of society over afabs. You can scream all you'd like about how we only bring up our sex/the gender we are often raised as when it's convenient but you always ignore those often traumatizing experiences when it's convenient for you.
Many Transmascs and trans men had a traumatizing upbringing because society views us as "bad women" and " bad women" get treated so much worse and by many more angles than "bad men" specifically because we were forcibly assigned as women. You take advantage of a lack of nuance in the community by trying to group us with cis men specifically because you group yourself with cis women. News flash, neither of us and our experiences should be grouped with ANY cis group because we do not have cisgendered experiences.
I seriously think you think you are the most oppressed group in the trans community and you are not, not by a long shot. You are not the most oppressed group in the transgender community and that's a statistical fact. The most oppressed group, by far, are two spirits and cultural genders by virtue of them being inherently indigenous and indigenous people being the most oppressed race of people in the community regardless of the location they are indigenous to.
You are literally taking advantage of the things that were drilled into transmascs at a young age to be seen and not heard and to be quiet and let others talk, that they are lesser than everyone. Everyday there's a new story in the community of a cis man or a trans woman getting a trans man/masc pregnant to hurt them or force them off t or to detransion, this is not a fucking accident. You are not men, no one ever said you were, but you sure love to silence them like they do.
I'm not quiet, you do not intimately know our issues the same way we do not intimately know yours, You don't get to tell us what we do and don't experience and the fact you'd rather cry wolf and suspiciously call us "bitches" than hear us out, tells me everything i need to know. That alt right to trans woman pipeline you said you escaped? Yeah, you didn't. Ur just an alt right trans woman, Try Again.
#levi speaks#people who arnt transmasc stop trying to claim you know transmasc experiences enough to say they are bs challenge#i see transandrophobia daily and i see their issues never addressed#theres a huge issue involving transmascs being raped to make them pregnant and stop their transition#its mostly cis men but ive seen multiple abusive transfems do it too and they dont talk about it#its like its a dirtt word like they cant acknowledge their own but expect us to apologize daily for the existence of kevin garrah#a trans man that wasnt remotely blair white Caitlyn jenner-ing up the trans community and disappeared 7 fucking years ago#curious why you guys keep haeping on our one guy when every week theres a new white transfem on my fyp#talking about the woke cult and how shes the only good one#then 3 weeks later apologizing cause the leopard ate her face#im not blind i notice a pattern#its always white trans women and cis gay men acting the fucking fool and i dont think thats an accident#i dont think theres no common thread#i still think they are women i also think they are still white and still think they have some masculine invincibility to criticism#then get shocked they arnt treated as darling princesses by the racists and transphobes they try to appeal to#i do think people that claim transandrophobia isnt real are doing so from a place of mysogny#wether thats internalized or not#they always sound like fucking reddit incels#just listening to the language they use when they talk about transmascs and cis women only tells me their fave podcaster is joe rogan#just bleeds pewdiepie asmongold ben shapiro nonsense#and then cry and point at you like every other white woman with her tears when you point it out 😂#i do not think most transfems are part of this issue#i do think they have general ignorance about issues facing the transmasc community but i think thats a two way issue#most transmascs dont know all the issues taking place in the transfem community#im specifically talking about the transfems who make hating transmascs and cis women a full time job#and claim they only feel safe around cis men#like ok you just outed urself as a run of the mill mysognist drawing weird lines but ok#before someone acts the fool im both#im intersex with transmasc and transfem experiences and identify as both#its ridiculous that i get slapped with an anti-self label cause i asked a transfem to care about the other half of the fucking trans communi
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I remember when she came out and thinking, this is it. This is who it will take to convince the sporty cis people that you can't just lock away being trans by focusing on being a good man/woman. I mean she won the Olympics Decathlon, the peak of human fitness. The athleticism Decathletes (and Heptatheletes, lest we forget that BS) possess is unreal, you need the body awareness to learn the technical events, the raw strength and agility to compete in the jumps, and incredible endurance in order to even finish the competition. If some one can reach the pinnacle of fitness for a man/woman, and it's still not enough to stop them from seeking to transition? That should have been the end of the, "Well instead of being trans have you tried..." She did, for years, became the best at it and still said, yeah fuck this noise I'm out. I genuinely thought the day Caitlin Jenner came out that she was going to help frame transness in a whole new light for some people. I guess she did, but in the completely opposite way. For that, she can fuck right off from Pride, from the community, he'll I'd snatch those big fake titties from her chest. "Girl, you wasted an incredible story and moment and chose to validate the fear mongering of the right, you'll get these back when you earn them."
#trans#lgbtq#transgender#trans memes#queer#queer memes#pride#lgbtqia#196#trans women#Caitlyn Jenner hasn't had Pride since the Wheaties box#trans community#trans experience#drive safe y'all
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The thing about Caitlyn Jenner is, she will simply say anything for attention. She thinks her money and privilege will inoculate her against the consequences of her own words.
She's making herself a trans token for the anti trans lobby on purpose because it's the only way she can cling to an ounce of relevance.
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I very distinctly remember when Caitlyn came out. Despite everything, all of the horrible things she did and said, the trans community afforded her respect. The first thing that anyone mentions when talking about Caitlyn is to remember; "Hey. Just because you don't like somebody, doesn't mean you get to misgender them, because being recognized as YOUR gender is not a privilege you earn, it's a right you should already have." This is a sentiment I still believe and always will believe.
The thing that I have learned as a follower of that belief is that usually the people who DON'T believe in that are the exact same people who will respect you to your face and then talk shit behind your back. They are the same people that will take a loan as an friend and refuse to give it back as an enemy. They are the same people who don't want to face the consequences of saying evil things about people but still crave that evil so wholeheartedly. They are the same people who care so very little about the people around them and the people in the same fight.
Those people are the same people who will misgender YOU and call you a trender after you tell them that misgendering people you don't like means that you don't ever actually believe anyone is really the gender they say they are. Even if this person is trans themselves. They are the same people who hold the privilege of being able to transition and if you don't, you're not really serious about this whole trans thing.
Caitlyn Jenner refuses to afford another trans woman the right to be truly seen. Caitlyn was respected in this right by us and by Dylan and by everyone in the trans community and refuses to do the same for a trans woman SHE doesn't like.
Caitlyn Jenner is still a woman. But she is not THE woman. She does not get to be the deciding factor in who is and isn't trans because there is not a single soul on this Earth who can do such a thing.
Caitlyn Jenner is miserable sitting in a corner with the people who hate her but she has no other outlet than to be horrible and follow their lead so maybe one day there won't be knives pointed so closely to her neck. Maybe the cis bigots will like me too if I show them I am one of them. But if they had their way, you would be dead or detransitioned just like every single other trans person in the world. They will NEVER like you because you are what they hate. Being a bigot is not enough to cover the fact that you are a gender deviant.
They still misgender Caitlyn. We haven't. We don't like you, but we see you as a woman. The people you are trying to impress never will, AND they don't like you.
Dylan Mulvaney is a delight. She is not a pedophile, or a sellout or evil or anything, she's a person that definitely makes mistakes but is LEAGUES better in almost every single respect to Caitlyn Jenner. She is a good person and I'm tired of trying to find every little fault in whatever representation we have because we really need to understand that perfect people and perfect representation doesn't exist and it never will and it never SHOULD. I see all of you saying "dylan isn't good but..." NO BUT. SHUT THE FUCK UP. Not here. Not right now. You are killing us.
This is as black and white and unnuanced as it gets. Dylan is not in the wrong and in fact, she is so so right. Caitlyn is using her platform for evil, she is a bad person not because she is trans but because she goes out of her way to be horrible. (And she's rich.)
This rant has no real point. But remember that Caitlyn is a traitor.
Trans rights. Forever and always, radically. Trans people deserve to be here. We are who we say we are just as any cis person is. Trans people are not delusional or predatory anymore than anybody else. We are not more violent, we are not more monstrous, and we have so much more humanity than any bigot. And most importantly and most annoyingly for y'all, we aren't going fuck all anywhere.
I know a lot of tumblr isn’t on tiktok, so to anyone who wants to say anything negative about Dylan Mulvaney please know that this is the person you’re putting down.
#im breaking the fingers of every terf who touches this post#shut the fuck up nobody likes you#i match violence with violence so be grateful that dylan is so kind#you don't deserve the pixels your text is written in#you don't deserve the bandwidth and server space your vile hatred fills#you don't deserve the ground you walk on#or the birds that sing overhead#they do not sing for you#they sing for me#for dylan#for all of us#you are doomed#so very doomed#and you know that#i know you know that#but you don't care#hatred is natural to you so its monstrous of me to ask kindness of you#whatever#swagever#dylan mulvaney#trans pride#trans women i love you#trans men I love you#trans community I love you#let’s all be kind#caitlyn jenner
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Keep your opinions off my body
What baffles me most is how far out of their own spheres some people are willing to crane their ugly opinions about matters that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM and HAVE NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER ON THEIR LIVES.
The legislation of, dominance over, and interference with female bodies, whether they be trans or pregnant or lactating or obese or skinny or elderly or underage or "virgin" or unmarried or married bodies, or bodies employed in sex work, makes me need to scream and gasp and tear violently at my hair and clothes.
I'm so sick of my body not belonging exclusively to me.
#it's my body#my body my choice#stop legislating female bodies#mind your business#I don't legislate your body#creepy entitled Congress#trans women are women#puberty blockers are a human right#Caitlyn Jenner can suck my dick#my humanity is a hill I will die on#feminism#LGBTQIA+#real men support human rights#real men are feminists#we are people first#gender and sexuality second
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Click on the photo to see the article & listen to what Caitlyn Jenner has to say about this. She has excellent points to consider.
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The first time I saw a trans woman was in porn. I was pretty young then, in early middle school I think. My first thoughts about trans women only existed in a sexual context, since that was the only place I saw us mentioned
The next time I saw trans people mentioned was a TV show presumably about trans people and transitioning. I didn't watch it, only saw the description because even as a kid I had already internalized the idea that it was taboo and I would get in trouble if my parents walked in and I was watching it
Eventually I saw enough TV and cop shows to see an episode with the dead trans hooker trope. It further reinforced the building idea that trans women were something else, separate from "normal" people and always on the outskirts of society
And then Caitlyn Jenner came out. At my Catholic middle school there were few kind things said about her and plenty of nasty comments, but this was the first time I saw trans people being publicly talked about
In high school my views on trans people started to fracture. On one hand, I was being pushed the idea that gender was about what's in your pants, that if you've got a dick your a man and there's nothing that can be done about it. On the other hand, early high school me had stumbled across some gender change erotica and quickly became obsessed with it. While it wasn't great representation, it was still pretty positive about transitioning. The people in those stories were always happier afterwards
I struggled to reconcile what parts of society were saying about trans people with my daydreaming about what I'd do if I woke up the next morning as a girl. Eventually I decided that it was just a fetish. I just thought it was hot, there was no way I could be trans because I was just a normal person. I wasn't weird or a spectacle for others to gawk at, I was just a person
Around that time I also met a trans person in passing for the first time. One of the trans guys at my high school was in one of the musicals that I went to because some of my friends were also in them. When I was talking to my friends about it after someone mentioned the trans guy and that he was trans. I wasn't really sure what to think so I kinda just didn't think about it. Thinking back, there were a few trans guys at my high school but I don't think there was a single out trans woman
Eventually in college I actually met some trans and nonbinary people. In some classes we introduced ourselves on the first day with names and pronouns which was my first exposure to people using pronouns other than just he/him and she/her. I had a few classes with trans and nonbinary people, including a survey of transgender studies class I took in my last semester. I had plenty of excuses for why I was taking it (I needed a few more credits to graduate. It still had room open. It fit with my other classes. It seemed interesting. I'm trying to be a good ally.)
Around this time as well I found some trans creators online like ContraPoints and Philosophy Tube (whom I had watched before she came out as trans). I was weirdly excited and interested when Odyssey Eurobeat came out as trans and I went to go listen to some of her music right after I heard. I was starting to have examples of trans people just being people. Not just porn stars or public spectacles, but people
Later I met and befriended a few trans women, one of whom was extremely open about her transness and happened to share a video which started the initial steps of my egg cracking and figuring out who I am now
If I had actually known any trans women, if the world had been kinder to trans people, if representation of trans women as people existed and was well known, I might have been able to realize who I was sooner. I would have been able to exist as myself for more than a tiny fragment of my life so far
Representation matters, both in media and in daily life. Trans people being out and open about who they are made it possible for me to realize that about myself. Please never stop being who you are
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Brianna is making themselves out to be a victim of “Trans Twitter”? Lmao, that is such a reliable canard. Trans twitter, that all powerful group that controls everything, is coming after poor Brianna—who remember, didn’t do anything wrong except back up a trans/homophobic racist by calling a Black woman a man 🙄
Hoo boy 😮💨
Brianna Wu has officially gone the route of Caitlyn Jenner
As if Brittney Griner didn’t go through enough hell as a fucking Russian prisoner, Brianna Wu had to get that “pick me, I’m different but still terfy” dig in, to make clear whose side they’re on
BTW, the phrase everyone seems to be missing in that twitter thread is “racialized misogyny” … that’s the reason a lot of white Starbucks feminists train their fire on Black women so much. Remember how Lena Wilson tried to go after Amandla Stenberg? Same thing: “queer” white women going after Black women for clout points—and the second they get called out on their bullshit, they fall back on playing the victim of an “innocent” misunderstanding. They tried to throw a Black person under the white feminism bus to grow their own status. And they absolutely know what they are doing, and you better believe that if their dig was more well received, there wouldn’t have been any apology afterwards (half assed as it was)
And that’s all without me even getting into the fact that Brianna was tweeting from a notorious conservative racist transphobe, Lauren Chen
Anyway, remember: if you scratch a TERF, a racist bleeds
#politics#brittney griner#racialized misogyny#brianna wu#transphobia#white feminism#starbucks feminism#transvestigators#racism#amandla stenberg#lena wilson
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I’ve recently seen some The Rocky Horror Picture Show discourse. And like people are questioning if Rocky Horror is transmisogynistic. Of course it does. Dr. Frank-N-Furter is intentionally a transmisogynistic villain. That’s the point.
It’s intended as ironic of course, as deliberate camp. The musical is intended as a parody of old sci-fi and horror movies, mixed with a camp drag aesthetic inspired by the contemporary glam rock movement. The mad scientist villains in the movies being parodied were often queer-coded, and vaguely effeminate.
So to parody that, Frank-n-Furter goes far beyond the queer-coding, and is outrageously effeminate and evil. He rapes people, kills them with an axe and serves them for dinner and force-fems them to take part in his climactic stage show. He is a Frankenstein parody, who literally makes an artificial man in order to fuck him (a joke about Frankenstein I’ve seen on tumblr). And does it all while wearing stockings, a bustier and heavy make-up. He is deliberately the ultimate evil man in a dress trope, referencing Psycho and all effeminate mad scientists in media.
That Frank-N-Furter isn’t explicitly a trans woman doesn’t matter. The musical deliberately blurs the line. The line “I’m just a sweet transvestite, from Transsexual, Transylvania” is like a perfect encapsulation of how horror movies treat transfemininity. “Men in dresses” (transvestites) trans women (transsexual) and a symbol of predatory horror movie villainy (Transylvania) are all conflated, making a pun of out how they all begin with “trans”.
Of course, it’s intended to be ironic. It’s a parody of queer-coded villainy in old horror movies by turning it up to eleven, so that you can’t take it seriously. The whole movie has this drag show camp aesthetic that it celebrates, and the supposed representatives of heteronormativity, Brad and Janet are turned in the end. Frank-N-Furter becomes a symbol of a hedonistic queer liberation “Give yourself over to absolute pleasure.. Don’t dream it, be it.”
This is the clear intent of Rocky Horror, and it’s how it became a “queer classic”. Does it work? I’ll admit that I enjoy the movie version. The glam rock aesthetic is fun, the songs are catchy, and they keep coming at a quick pace. A lot of it is admittedly that I love the old horror and sci-fi movies it’s parodying, so my cultural touchstones are similar. I’m the kind of person to get a thrill out of knowing that Frank-N-Furter at one point uses the exact same prop that Peter Cushing used in the second Hammer Frankenstein movie.
That is a different question however from how well it succeeds at subverting the transmisogynistic tropes it handles. Even in the most sympathetic possible account of the musical, it’s doing the equivalent of handling live grenades. Is it the creators tropes to subvert in the first place? Is it the fans?
Let’s talk about Rocky Horror’s creator, Richard O’Brien. He is certainly a weird and contradictory person, he identifies as a third gender and “70% male and 30% female“, and is using estrogen. So arguably he is a transfem enby and thus transmisogyny-affected. But he’s also a transmisogynist who doesn’t believe trans women are “real women”.( I would like to know what exact percentage of “female” as a transfem person turns you into a bad fake trans woman.)
Of course the important thing about O’Brien is that he is rich. He is in a vastly different class position than the majority of transfems. So while he may be taking estrogen and living as a third gender, he is simultaneously isolated by his own wealth from the effects of the transmisogyny he bolsters in the media (see Caitlyn Jenner for another example of a wealthy transfem doing the same thing).
And O’Brien is rich because Rocky Horror is a huge success. The stage show has seen tons of productions, the original ran for 7 years in the West End, and the movie is a slow but certain money maker, with probably the longest theatrical run out of any movie in history. He is swimming in residuals.
This raises the more interesting question of Rocky Horror’s position in the wider culture, and it’s status as “queer media”. It’s a movie which is just not passively watched but celebrated and performed by its fandom. People show up in cosplay to showings, “shadow casts” perform while the movie plays. And of course the original stage musical is still performed.
So we have to ask ourselves, what are people performing? And who is performing it? And I’ve already answered the former question earlier. Rocky Horror is largely an ironic performance of transmisogyny. And the fact is, the majority of people doing that performance are not the main targets of transmisogyny. They are largely TME cishet, queer and trans people. It’s “ironic” transmisogyny to be sure, I think most fans of Rocky Horror who have any understanding of what it is doing view Frank-N-Furter as the true hero of the show. But is it really their thing to be ironic about? Are transmisogyny-exempt people really the people who should reclaim with irony and camp transmisogynistic tropes in horror media? I don’t think so, and that’s why there is so much resentment about Rocky Horror from transfems. And it’s creator doesn’t help, because while he’s arguably transfem, he also spreads transmisogyny in the media.
It illustrates a lot of things, for example how imprecise “queer” is as a description of people. It’s an umbrella term, and does group together people who have much in common. But it also erases the material differences within the community. Queer people aren’t all equally oppressed.
So Rocky Horror status as queer media, as a campy celebration of queerness and parody of anti-queer tropes in genre films is kinda grating. Because it enables TME queer people to perform and celebrate Rocky Horror, because they are queer and it’s about “queerness”, when there are specifically transmisogynistic tropes parodied in the musical. It isn’t really their place to do so.
It appropriates specific transmisogynistic tropes in the media by thoughtlessly subsuming it into the general anti-queerness which it is part of.
Of course there are transfems who got to explore their gender at Rocky Horror showings. But I think the reason they did that is because mtf crossdressing is accepted as part of a camp ironic performance in such a context. It makes it feel safer to perform femininity in public, because you can backtrack and say it’s purely ironic. That’s no different from the comedy crossdressing in American Halloween parties, and I think we can all agree those are often transmisogynistic.
And of course, Rocky Horror is an example of how cis men can perform femininity, and get celebrated for it in mainstream society, while escaping the effects of transmisogyny that transfems experience, and in fact often furthering that transmisogyny. It’s often a (negative) performance of transfemininity, in which actual transfems play no part and are mocked.
Tim Curry is a very good example. He made his career from playing Frank-N-Furter, and he probably couldn’t have done that if he was actually transfem, and not just crossdressing for an ironic performance on stage and screen. Like I don’t have anything against him in particular, quite the opposite, he’s one of my favourite actors, love him in everything from Clue to Muppet Treasure Island to Gabriel Knight. My objection is to the patriarchal and transmisogynistic system that favors cishet men like him.
Speaking of crossdressing on stage, the drag culture which Rocky Horror is inspired by of course has a complex history. It’s deeply rooted in both African-American and queer culture, and transfems have played major roles in drag. But Rocky Horror is if anything even an appropriation of drag culture. It represents drag’s commercialization and recuperation into the mainstream. It took drag out of the gay bars being raided by the police and onto the more respectable West End stage, making a lot of money in the process.
Rocky Horror beyond any qualities it has as a stage and film musical, due to its popularity represents a lot of complex issues. It’s important to queer culture, but it also represents the commercialization and recuperation of queer drag into the cishet mainstream. And within the queer community, it is a shining example of how TME queers can appropriate specifically transfem struggles as their own. It shows how cis men can gain wealth and fame performing transmisogynistic caricatures (even if they are ironic and don’t mean it).
I’m not saying if you enjoy the musical that you should stop enjoying it. But maybe if you are TME, Dr Frank-N-Furter is not your “problematic queer icon” to reclaim.
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Can’t forget the best part
so can we all vote to change the LGBT to the radical rainbow mafia? It honestly sounds a lot cooler. Also girl you really have no idea shit about this community and it shows. Being trans does not mean you know shit about the community and how it started. Learn our history or shut the fuck up. The information is out there and very easily accessible.
#caitlyn jenner can fuck all the way off#whining about erasing women as if she didn’t literally erase one with her car#trans rights
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Yk… I feel like people have become So used to like TikTok doom-scrolling feeding their limited attention span and having most sapphic rep be TV-Y7 shows (She-ra, TOH, TLOK, etc.) that when they’re faced with a TV-14 show where they actually have to Pay Attention to little things like facial expressions over words instead of having constant exposition shoved in their face they don’t like it.
And this is not me saying you can’t be an adult and watch a TV-Y7 show, but you Do have to keep in mind that the shows target demographic Is younger viewers so they have to utilize stuff like exposition so younger viewers can easily understand it. And those shows have pretty black and white morals “Horde = Bad” “Princess Alliance = Good” all that fun stuff.
But Arcane isn’t like that, it makes you think deeper about what’s actually being told to you and I’ve had to do a couple rewatches myself to pick up on stuff I hadn’t noticed the first time. And putting those same black and white morals to the characters like these really does the show a disservice.
(I also think the "oh I don't like oppressor x oppressed" complaint to be Incredibly stupid because you could slap that onto practically Anything. Heterosexual relationships/Hetero-passing relationships? that's oppressor x oppressed because of men over women. Mixed relationships involving any white person? that's Definity oppressor x oppressed. Relationships involving a cis and trans person? yup oppressor x oppressed again. Reducing characters down purely to their socioeconomic status and occupation and ignoring all the nuance, complexity and logic of them and their actions frustrate the hell out of me because they refuse to think deeper than that.)
And I'd RATHER Caitlyn Show she's remorseful and changing through her Actions rather than a sob session of "I'm sorrys'" (Also, LAST time Caitlyn merely said words to Vi ("I won't"), her actions didn't reflect those words, so why would Vi trust a simple "I'm sorry" now? Not to mention we already got that "I'm sorry" plot beat when it came to Jayce and Viktor back in S1 with Jayce doing stuff like setting the Bridge Blockade (and No one wants to bring up the "oppressor x oppressed" thing when talking about Jayvik despite it being the same dynamic...))
(Let's also address that Vi never said "I'm sorry" to Jinx for joining the Enforcers. No, the "I'm sorry" in Ep 3 wasn't for That it was an "I'm sorry for what's about to happen" because they Both know that there's a high possibility that Jinx might be dead at the end of this fight, and I know this because Vi becomes defensive in Ep 5 when Jinx brings it up. Vi doesn't say "I'm sorry" for hitting Isha either (btw if you say Vi saw Jinx care for Isha as a "I'm a bad sister" then you just lack basic media literacy all together). Jinx never says "I'm sorry" for all the fucked up shit she does like kidnapping Caitlyn and forcing Vi to kill her. Also, Vi AND Caitlyn come up with the plan to take out Silco loyalists, Shimmer and Jinx so why the hell does Caitlyn have to apologize for that? Caitlyn admits that forcing Vi to take the badge was the wrong thing to do and gives an explanation as to why she wanted Vi to join her as an Enforcer, because Caitlyn's worry of "one of us comes back in a box" IS justified)
(I also think the time jumps have fooled the audience, because they feel that Caitlyn's scene with Ambessa in ep 4 is "a complete 180" when you have to keep in mind that Caitlyn's been watching how her actions have affected those in these 6 months that we haven't really been seeing her on screen; we see bits of her during the "Paint the Town Blue" montage and Even Then you see her damn near crying in one of those still shots and looking so exhausted and over it in another. Once again part of that "Arcane wanting you to use your brain to connect those dots instead of the show doing For you but the audience refuses to do so" kinda stuff.)
Also, do people need to go through their Own trauma, grief and anger in order to understand Caitlyn's actions/motivations? because it's kinda starting to look that way. Caitlyn wasn't maliciously manipulating Vi with the kiss and the "I won't" statement because when going through emotions like this, Caitlyn doesn't have the time to reflect on those actions and see how she is changing, it's more of a hope that she isn't changing in the way that Vi doesn't want her to (you have to remember that S1 Ep4-S2 Ep3 happens within the span of like a week, maybe two at the most; Caitlyn's not being given time to stop or think about what's she's doing or what's going on, she's merely going through the motions in a sense. So by the time we pick up Ep 4 and there's been months of shit happening under her watch, she's had Time to be like "I don't want to be this, I hate this and the person I've become in all this".)
(I mean we can have Another discussion of how a lot of hate is just performative activism. One of the reasons I Like Caitlyn so much is because she shows that even with good morals, someone from privilege can easily fall down that rabbit hole. Because that's happened to myself before. Despite being lesbian and mentally disabled I still come from certain privilege, while I don't come from aristocratic wealth, I still lived a life better than most and just being a white woman that also gives me privilege and I've had to do my own reflecting on how my thoughts and actions can affect others simply from that privilege; which is what Caitlyn's able to do herself over the course of the season, which it seems that none of these haters are able to grasp)
#arcane#arcane season 2#caitlyn kiramman#league of legends#arcane discussion#arcane analysis#arcane hot take#im done#this fandom annoys me#id love to have deep and insightful conversations on these characters#but everyone is a simple minded neanderthal that wont engage on that level
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I do genuinely want to ask about the dropout transmascs/transfems thing. Because what transmascs are already there? Ally might consider themself transmasc, but nobody else has ever referred to themselves that way, unless you consider every nonbinary or genderfluid person automatically transmasc ? But that's not true, a lot of trans people aren't either. I mean, there should always be more trans women, but I would argue this isn't a competition where only one kind of trans person gets representation. I mean, I'm a trans man. I feel more represented by persephone as a fellow binary transitioning trans person than ruha because we're, idk, "female". Absolutely there should be more transfems, but I don't think it's fair when people think there are so many transmascs. Because there really aren't more than one of us, either.
I suppose you're right. I haven't watched a lot of dropout's shows, mostly game changer and just a few episodes of d20. It's not like I have a problem with there being transmasc and nb rep. I think there should be more of that too. A show entirely consisting of trans people would be neat but we're not going to get that. I still do see there being more transmasc rep, though. Ally has been there from the beginning, from the collegehumor days, and we got to witness their transition throughout the years. They are a permanent fixture. I have yet to see any representation of transfems that thorough. I have yet to see a trans woman be a permanent fixture to the point where we can watch her evolve in realtime. I would love to see an actual response to the concerns on here, but it hasn't been taken seriously. It definitely feels like our voices are being swept under the rug. All for asking for a little bit more representation.
I suppose it especially struck me because there is basically no good transfem representation in our broader cultural context. There are trans-coded stories, there are characters written as trans, but I basically never see a piece of media telling the story of what it means to be trans without hiding behind metaphor, or to just let trans women speak about their experiences, what it means to them.
I don't see this as oppositional either. I would never argue for there to be less transmasc representation, I would argue that trans women in particular are especially in need of representation. And on the platform where diversity is a selling point, the lack of transfem visibility feels particularly like a gut punch. We see Ally all over the place, but trans women don't get that treatment. Just once, I would like to see a trans woman in the spotlight as she discovers herself, transitions, and speaks about her experience, and not have it blow up in the end. It's funny, for a moment I thought we were finally seeing that with Ava Kris Tyson. Then, you know. There was backlash before anyone even had a reason to be upset, and then they tore her apart once they had something they could point to and say "see! we were right all along!" It's extremely damaging that the most well known trans women are her and Caitlyn Jenner and Chris Chan, and that most of the "representation" in fiction is either an intentional mockery or extremely misguided.
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i know bethesda didnt actually think this through, but desdemona reminds me of those cis “allies” who call caitlyn jenner “he” whenever she fucks up. like, its not about her being a good person who we all need to be super nice to, its about how you think its optional to see trans people as the gender they fucking say they are. her being a woman is a fact, and not something you can choose to either humor or ignore. either both “good” and “bad” trans women are women, or neither of them are
anyway, dez calling coursers “it”s in a dehumanizing way sucks shit and really lowers my opinion of her. synths dont need humans to “gift” personhood to them, they already have it. either see all gen 3 synths as people or hand the railroad over to someone who does
#fo4#fallout 4#this may be a purposeful character trait they gave her or it may just be lazy writing#fallout#x6-88#not directly about him but its about him. the fandom can be cruel to him but at least 95% of us call him 'he'
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Don't you just hate it when one of the biggest grifters online decides to like a piece of media you like?
Gatekeeping is wrong. Forcing someone to like something in the specific way I interact and consume a piece of media is wrong. Art is meant to be viewed through a multitude of lenses, and each individual will have their own way of interpreting that creation. And that's good. That's fine. That's human.
But when an Anti-Woke Grifter who thinks alcoholism is a really cool personality trait and decides to brand everything about themselves as that; who has historically engaged and criticized films and shows and games and books in bad faith; who has put down women and POC's and Queer representation in media; who is one of the biggest dicks in the online space decides to actually pay attention to an art that is pretty much dipped, coated, laminated, and injected with fucking GAY, ANTI-PATRIARCHAL ENERGY—that's when I get mad.
For those not in the know, Critical Drinker has posted a review for Blue Eye Samurai, saying he likes it.
You know... Blue Eye Samurai?
The show that oozes Queer Wrath? Feminine Rage? Curb-Stomping Toxic Masculinity and the Patriarchy whenever and wherever it can? That Blue Eye Samurai?
See, he's done this before with Arcane.
He says he likes it. Him and his ilk say that, "Finally, the wokies have done something actually good!" and point to Vi and Jinx as strong female characters written well!
But they also say, dang, feels like all the men in that show are idiots and that they had to be dumbed down to make room for the rainbow-haired girlies brigade. Who have all remarked that Vi and Caitlyn's relationship is forced and being shoved down our throats because god forbid women like women!
I got sick of watching his Arcane review halfway, and this was before I knew what a douche Critical Sucker was.
So I ain't watching his Blue Eye Samurai review. Why?
His Glass Onion review was done in bad faith.
I didn't like She-Hulk, but that's because that show was a byproduct of abused VFX animators, creatively bankrupt executives, and writers desperately trying to manage a convoluted shared universe that continues to buckle under its own weight. Political Stinker over here thinks that it's pandering, stupid, feminist garbage. He is one of the biggest Anti-Feminist voices in Youtube.
Him and his incel brigade have an obsession over hating Captain Marvel and Brie Larson. These basement dwelling cucks rant and rave over a mediocre duology and an actress that just lives in their tiny heads rent-free.
He says that they are removing men from leading roles and roles of great importance!
So why would I want to listen to an inebriated libertarian's opinions on a show that has become the show for lesbians, trans mascs, and other lovely brands of gay and feminism that he oh so despises? He'll most likely praise the action and violence and shit like that, then probably say that Mizu and Taigen's homoerotic rivalry isn't gay actually. Or that Mizu and Akemi's narrative foils don't scream enemies-to-sapphics. Or that Mizu, WHO'S NAME MEANS WATER AND HER ENTIRE CHARACTER REVOLVES AROUND FLUIDITY ISN'T IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM FLUID IN HER GENDER AND SEXUALITY.
Fuck. I'm sorry. I don't even care if he doesn't say that. He's made so many disgusting, disparaging remarks about any piece of media that shows an inkling of progressive themes that what else am I supposed to expect?
If anyone watches it and sees this, lemme know. Watching an Anti-Woke bullshit video with just myself is just straight up wading through the desert without proper protection. No thanks.
Anyway watch Blue Eye Samurai again. Because I know you watched it. Watch it again. And again. And when you're done, watch Arcane. Watch She-Ra. Watch Dragon Prince. Castlevania. Watch anything "woke". Consume trans-positive shows. Make all the haters and even the ones who like it but have no ounce of media literacy irrelevant. Let them dry out and die, please.
#blue eye samurai#mizu#mizu blue eye samurai#taigen#akemi#arcane#vi#jinx#castlevania nocturne#castlevania
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lgbtq+ league of legends characters before pride month ends
aphelios has only ever been depicted in an mlm relationship (with sett)
blitzcrank is referred to using they/them pronouns. occasionally it/its. in one instance, he/him in the bees skinline
caitlyn smooches women
cho’gath doesn’t exist or something but is referred to using it/its
diana smooches leona (league of legends instagram promised me that leona and diana live happily ever after)
ekko is probably bi. he’s had a crush on jinx. in pulsefire, he and ezreal were romantically involved in some way. i believe a rioter said that they want to keep sexualities consistent across universes (ie across skinlines) though i’m not sure how recently this statement was made
evelynn changes her form (and gender) to best seduce her victims (whose genders do not matter)
ezreal is probably bi. several voice lines imply he has a crush on lux. see pulsefire ekko
fiddlesticks is referred to as it/they and is a corrupt magical girl in star guardians
fiora is implied to not be attracted to men even though she likes master yi in immortal journey
graves = gay
irelia probably smooches women and should be smooching me
kayn was once described to have a fluid preference in partners
k’sante gay
lee sin maybe had a romantic relationship with udyr but i don’t really care for either of them tbh
leona - see diana
lux makes rainbows and is forced to hide her true self. she might not be gay but some might find her story relatable in that way
miss fortune has suggestive interactions with vi in legends of runeterra
nami has a gf and a bf and they all hold hands and love each other and they both support her and riot games retconned nami and the marai being from targon even though i wrote a ten page fanfic of her journey to ionia to search for diana
neeko is a lesbian
nidalee reciprocates neeko’s feelings for her i think
nocturne is referred to using he/it pronouns. idc what anyone says i love u nocturne
rell is bi
samira once had a non-binary lover
seraphine might smooch girls
sett is bisexual
taliyah is trans
taric was made to be a gay stereotype though i’m not sure where he stands now. also is it troll to play q max taric bc porofessor recommends e max but i only play him in aram
twisted fate is pan and does gay crimes with graves
udyr - see lee sin
varus has two gay men inside him so ya
vel’koz was also confirmed to be non-binary in the instagram post i previously mentioned. this is not reflected in their bio. tbh all void creatures are kinda meant to be genderless but idk
vi smooches caitlyn
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