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bro S2 REALLY came for Caitlyn's Neck like god damn!

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sorry I'll get back to posting Arcane in a minute but I SAID the SC's upholding the Ban because that Annoying POS wanted to "save it" and he put most of them there so Of Course they'd do what he says but being raised by a narcissist this type of behavior won't work on me. you're not going to light my house on fire then demand praises for putting it out. that aint how this shit works.

Am I pissed that we've been having our tails yanked nonstop? Yes. am I pissed that there's going to be an influx of people like "so he's your king now right" (so THAT'S INSANE)? Also Yes.

just those fish with the chum buckets on their heads like "all hail plankton" ass shit like where's Spongebob singing Goofy Goober when you need him?

these next 4 years (hell maybe more because they already mentioned wanting to get rid of the 2 term limit) are going to be EXHAUSTING

(I'm also not leaving Xiaohongshu because I've found a group of wlw who are Just as chaotic as I am and I LOVE them! so from the bottom of my heart trump, and I mean this with the most sincerity, 你是个小婊子)

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OPP THERE IT IS

usamericans, do you remember in the incredibles when syndrome made the robot go haywire just so he could swoop in and 'save the day'

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I think I have the same issue with Jinx that I do with Wanda:

Just As characters, I Really like them, I think they’re very well written, I could talk about them all day and would love to go on insightful ramblings on them.

The Issue is the Fans— or should I say THOSE fans that Baby them and go “oh pookie could do no wrong!” while Crucifying other characters (Caitlyn and Billy are the first that come to mind) despite the statement of “them doing no wrong” is just Objectively not true

At this point it’s starting to make the character less enjoyable for me because I see this behavior Nonstop and its Exhausting because it’s the same repetitive arguments over and Over and OVER again

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ok but I NEED to know which of the creators/writers/animators took a long hard look at Caitlyn and was like "damn... this bitch be lookin like a mongoose"

I MEAN--

it's Uncanny

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I’ve seen a couple people bring up “Vi could have gone to Ekko and the Firelights instead of joining Caitlyn and the Enforcers” when others mention that Vi’s “home” is where her family/loved ones are, she isn’t really loyal to Zaun Especially when it’s been run into the ground by Silco. However, there’s a couple of problems with this.

1) the way the Firelights operate doesn’t really fit Vi’s mo. The Firelights hide/observe most of the time and are strategical in how they combat Silco and his crew. Meanwhile, Vi’s a “punch first, ask questions while punching” kinda gal, she doesn’t think twice when she see’s Sevika she goes in knee first, she and Jayce go fist flying into one of Silco’s Shimmer facilities to destroy it. so it’s pretty logical to say that there’d be opposition on how shits being run between her and them.

2) But More Importantly, Vi thinks Ekko’s dead at that current point. She doesn’t see him from S1 Ep7-S2 Ep9. She sees the explosion, assumes he’s passed, and after that doesn’t see him when she goes after the Shimmer Facility, has her rematch with Sevika, and gets kidnapped by Jinx. During Act 1 of S2, the Only person left in Vi’s life Is Caitlyn, Vi feels responsible because Jinx has murdered her mom and wants to protect Caitlyn. She joins Caitlyn because Caitlyn explains to her her fears of one of them ending up dead if Jinx and Caitlyn fight 1v1 and expresses her frustration with everything falling apart at the seams, and with Caitlyn’s strike team there aren’t any civilian casualties like there Would have been from a full scale Enforcer Invasion, because with the Enforcer invasion we'd probably see a scene similar to the opening bridge scene where Vi and Powder's parents died (because Yes using the gray Is bad, but no one actually dies, Viktor’s declining health is due to a prolonged condition of constantly living with the stuff for several years). So if Vi thinks he’s dead, why would she just up and ditch Caitlyn for the Firelights when there's no one there that she gives a shit about?

Now it could be argued that Vi thought Jinx was dead to until she shows up again, but the thing with Jinx is that Vi can see she was saved with however much Shimmer Singed injected into her. The same can’t be said for Ekko, so the argument that Vi thinks he’s dead still holds up because Vi doesn’t see him after that.

This is part of an issue that I’m seeing with the fandom where they seem to forget they have more imminent knowledge than the characters do, and they’re making arguments based on Their knowledge rather than the characters. Which is pointless when you’re trying to make a character analysis because a lot of the time it falls into a personal bias because of the information that the audience has. And I'm seeing this kind of fallacy all over the place when it comes to discussing Vi and Caitlyn especially.

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hot take but Timebomb has more in common with Catradora than Caitvi does: childhood friends to enemies to lovers(?) where ones the right hand to the guy making everyone's lives worse (Catra&Hordak/Jinx&Silco) the other is the rebellion (Ekko and the Firelights/Adora and the Princess Alliance), they actively almost murder each other quite a few times on the battlefield, at one point there's an alternate dimension where everything is "almost perfect", one becomes suicidal after losing everything/one and they have to fight a robotic overlord that mind controls everyone to not have free will, oh and one gets a dramatic haircut

like you saw Caitlyn in that "Commander Kiramman" role and just Ran with it despite when putting further thought into it, she and Catra have basically Nothing in common

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Yk… I feel like people have become So used to like TikTok doom-scrolling feeding their limited attention span and having most sapphic rep be TV-Y7 shows (She-ra, TOH, TLOK, etc.) that when they’re faced with a TV-14 show where they actually have to Pay Attention to little things like facial expressions over words instead of having constant exposition shoved in their face they don’t like it.

And this is not me saying you can’t be an adult and watch a TV-Y7 show, but you Do have to keep in mind that the shows target demographic Is younger viewers so they have to utilize stuff like exposition so younger viewers can easily understand it. And those shows have pretty black and white morals “Horde = Bad” “Princess Alliance = Good” all that fun stuff.

But Arcane isn’t like that, it makes you think deeper about what’s actually being told to you and I’ve had to do a couple rewatches myself to pick up on stuff I hadn’t noticed the first time. And putting those same black and white morals to the characters like these really does the show a disservice.

(I also think the "oh I don't like oppressor x oppressed" complaint to be Incredibly stupid because you could slap that onto practically Anything. Heterosexual relationships/Hetero-passing relationships? that's oppressor x oppressed because of men over women. Mixed relationships involving any white person? that's Definity oppressor x oppressed. Relationships involving a cis and trans person? yup oppressor x oppressed again. Reducing characters down purely to their socioeconomic status and occupation and ignoring all the nuance, complexity and logic of them and their actions frustrate the hell out of me because they refuse to think deeper than that.)

And I'd RATHER Caitlyn Show she's remorseful and changing through her Actions rather than a sob session of "I'm sorrys'" (Also, LAST time Caitlyn merely said words to Vi ("I won't"), her actions didn't reflect those words, so why would Vi trust a simple "I'm sorry" now? Not to mention we already got that "I'm sorry" plot beat when it came to Jayce and Viktor back in S1 with Jayce doing stuff like setting the Bridge Blockade (and No one wants to bring up the "oppressor x oppressed" thing when talking about Jayvik despite it being the same dynamic...))

(Let's also address that Vi never said "I'm sorry" to Jinx for joining the Enforcers. No, the "I'm sorry" in Ep 3 wasn't for That it was an "I'm sorry for what's about to happen" because they Both know that there's a high possibility that Jinx might be dead at the end of this fight, and I know this because Vi becomes defensive in Ep 5 when Jinx brings it up. Vi doesn't say "I'm sorry" for hitting Isha either (btw if you say Vi saw Jinx care for Isha as a "I'm a bad sister" then you just lack basic media literacy all together). Jinx never says "I'm sorry" for all the fucked up shit she does like kidnapping Caitlyn and forcing Vi to kill her. Also, Vi AND Caitlyn come up with the plan to take out Silco loyalists, Shimmer and Jinx so why the hell does Caitlyn have to apologize for that? Caitlyn admits that forcing Vi to take the badge was the wrong thing to do and gives an explanation as to why she wanted Vi to join her as an Enforcer, because Caitlyn's worry of "one of us comes back in a box" IS justified)

(I also think the time jumps have fooled the audience, because they feel that Caitlyn's scene with Ambessa in ep 4 is "a complete 180" when you have to keep in mind that Caitlyn's been watching how her actions have affected those in these 6 months that we haven't really been seeing her on screen; we see bits of her during the "Paint the Town Blue" montage and Even Then you see her damn near crying in one of those still shots and looking so exhausted and over it in another. Once again part of that "Arcane wanting you to use your brain to connect those dots instead of the show doing For you but the audience refuses to do so" kinda stuff.)

Also, do people need to go through their Own trauma, grief and anger in order to understand Caitlyn's actions/motivations? because it's kinda starting to look that way. Caitlyn wasn't maliciously manipulating Vi with the kiss and the "I won't" statement because when going through emotions like this, Caitlyn doesn't have the time to reflect on those actions and see how she is changing, it's more of a hope that she isn't changing in the way that Vi doesn't want her to (you have to remember that S1 Ep4-S2 Ep3 happens within the span of like a week, maybe two at the most; Caitlyn's not being given time to stop or think about what's she's doing or what's going on, she's merely going through the motions in a sense. So by the time we pick up Ep 4 and there's been months of shit happening under her watch, she's had Time to be like "I don't want to be this, I hate this and the person I've become in all this".)

(I mean we can have Another discussion of how a lot of hate is just performative activism. One of the reasons I Like Caitlyn so much is because she shows that even with good morals, someone from privilege can easily fall down that rabbit hole. Because that's happened to myself before. Despite being lesbian and mentally disabled I still come from certain privilege, while I don't come from aristocratic wealth, I still lived a life better than most and just being a white woman that also gives me privilege and I've had to do my own reflecting on how my thoughts and actions can affect others simply from that privilege; which is what Caitlyn's able to do herself over the course of the season, which it seems that none of these haters are able to grasp)

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Yea, no the wiki’s wrong on this one (also I’m pretty sure that the wiki is run by fans not the creators, so take a grain of salt with what it says)

Jinx is being held in the dungeons of Piltover’s Capitol, not the Kiramman estate. We saw the same area at the end of "Heavy is the Crown"; and the council wouldn't be having a meeting in the Kiramman estate, seeing as how Caitlyn isn't a member.

Ep 1:

Ep 8:

But what does make this MORE awkward is:

These four have Their meeting in the same area that Caitlyn and Vi got all steamy soooo....

From league of legends wiki

1. Jinx was kept in a bunker below the Kiramman mansion not at Stillwater or some other jail.

2. Cait kept Jinx close by to Vi just in case.

3. As others pointed out, the place was clean, with the sun shinning through.

4. So CaitVi scene was at Kiramman mansion….could have move it upstairs after

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I'm gonna be so serious, y'all are remembering POWDER and Ekko and not JINX and Ekko when screaming about how much you "wanted Timebomb endgame over Caitvi"

shoving JINX in a relationship with her current mental state is not a good writing choice whatsoever, because Ekko literally had to keep rewinding time because she kept trying to kill herself. If Anything, That relationship would be rushed and fanservice because they would have jumped the gun in 2 episodes vs the 2 seasons it took for Caitvi and showing their ups and downs throughout their whole relationship.

The alternate universe works because Powder doesn't become Jinx and the two don't separate, unlike this universe where the two have been at odds for 7 years and almost kill each other back in Ep 7 of S1.

"But Cait never said sorry!" she didn't really have to, because Vi never stopped being in love with the girl that she Knows Cait is at heart, the Cocktail Molotov scene in Act 2 makes that VERY apparent. Cait saying that she was waiting for Vi to recover to address Jinx is the start of it because Act 1 Cait wouldn't have even Considered doing that, because she was so gung-ho about putting a bullet into Jinx that she Demanded Vi move out of the way for her to do so. She holds herself accountable with the mistakes she's made ("We can't erase our mistakes. None of us." that wasn't just a line targeted at Jinx to prove a point, there's deeper meaning behind it), and moving the guards out of the cell proving that she trusts Vi and her judgment on Jinx is that apology, Caitlyn has always been an "acts of service" kinda person over being a "verbal" kinda person; it's all over the place in S1 but Especially here in S2. But even after she takes Vi's shirt off, you could tell by her eyes and body language that she was most likely going to stop herself again to apologize for hitting her because the wound was in the same spot she initially hit, which was part of the lead up for This wound to even happen, but Vi's the one that just pulls her back in instead.

I'm also gonna add on that Vi thinks she made the wrong choice in trusting Jinx and thinking Jinx's changed because Jinx locked her in the cell and ran away again. So why in the Hell would Vi go chasing after her Again to be met with the same result time and time again? Vi isn't responsible for Jinx's mental health and y'all saying that are just weird. And I think it's apparent that Stillwater probably wasn't even in the top 10 things in her head being with Caitlyn, she was just running wild on emotions that she hasn't allowed herself to feel like-- Ever. And even if it Was Vi probably would have said she wasn't comfortable being in a jail cell of all places.

What was I talking about? Oh right, Timebomb.

Like Yes, it's shitty that Ekko doesn't get a happy ending considering he's the most unproblematic in the entire show. But people tend to forget that at the end of the day, Arcane is a TRADGEDY. It's not She-ra, it's not The Owl House, it wasn't going to be wrapped up in a neat little bow where everyone gets to smile and walk into the sunset with their loved ones, especially considering the fact that this season's being used as build ups to other stories, it's relatively clear that this isn't the last we're going to see of a lot of these characters. When they come back into play? well... who's to say?

But also, let's address that a lot of the Caitvi hate is just straight up homophobia at this point because a lot of people can understand Mel's admission to manipulating Jayce as an apology but Cait's actions we're suddenly braindead and need shit completely spelled out. like good lord I'm so tired of this. Y'all would NEVER have survived Catradora let me tell ya...

(My next post is gonna be a long winded rant about Maddie so stay tuned for that...)

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I think it makes the most sense that both Vi and Caitlyn die in the alternate universe. Because it could be enough that Vi dies because of Jayce's illegal contraband, making Piltover responsible for the death, but the way that Piltover is even at the start of the show they could be like "well they were stealing they deserved it" or some other nonsense but if the daughter of a councilor were to Also die due to Jayce's illegal contraband, that would be enough for them because not only did it affect Them but two daughters of two of the top people from both Piltover and Zaun die so they'd have to mend.

But this also proves that Hextech was the problem in the alternate universe, Not Vi. Because of the deaths, the Council doesn't send hoards of Enforcers to Zaun in response, Hextech doesn't get off the ground, Piltover doesn't become this "City of Progress" leaving Zaun in the dust, with Piltover and Zaun able to mend and things aren't as hostile in Zaun both Vander and Silco are able to mend their own relationship so things like Shimmer and Silco's deal with Marcus doesn't happen, like the list goes on.

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I would like to remind everyone getting all fussy about the "dirt under your fingernails" line from Vi is that psychologically, the meaning of the phrase "dirt under your fingernails" means "staying grounded, humble, and connected, to keep one's head out of the clouds, always keep one's feet on the ground, never get too caught up in one's self, spend some time on the front line."

By saying "nothings gonna clean me out" she means that she's going to stay connected to Caitlyn, this is basically a love confession from Vi. And its a line that fits Vi's character really well considering that for the entire show she's spent her time being caught up in herself, questioning the decisions she makes and her relationship with others (namely Jinx and Caitlyn). she's finally grounding herself, and I find that extremely poetic.

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ok now that I'm done freaking out over Caitvi (for the moment...) can we talk about how it was Mel (Ambessa's daughter) AND Caitlyn (someone Ambessa manipulated to be like one of her own) to be the ones to fight Ambessa? like Muah! Love it! Perfection!

A Mel and Cait tag team wasn't something I knew I needed Until I had it! (Similar to how I didn't know I needed Jayce and Ekko interacting until I got it back in Act 1)

(But I really hope that with the "new stories" they mentioned that this isn't the last we see of characters like Caitlyn, Vi, Mel, etc. otherwise I'm REALLY gonna miss them! like-- wtf do I do now?!)

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Caitlyn IS, and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a "Actions speak louder than words" kinda character and it frustrates me to no end that no one understands this

Caitlyn: breaks off her relationship with Ambessa,calls off her entire crusade against Jinx, woman who killed her mother, and lets her go. All because of Vi. And that's not to mention multiple visual details in her reactions and expressions that are saying more than words.

Some people: BuT shE diD'nT sAy "sorry".

I honestly cannot...

It's not even about nuance or subtlety, y'all really need everything spelled out for you?

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yall were going CRAZY last week over the spitting, handcuffs, tackling and whatnot saying "oh these two kinky fucks"

and then have the AUDACITY to act shocked and surprised that they did the hanky panky in a jail cell

like make up your minds people!

(I mean I could also go into detail about how it's symbolic and where the two first met and this that and the other but like-- I'll leave it at this is the Least surprising thing to come from These two considering their kiss back in Ep 3 was basically in a sewer of all places)

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I FUCKING CALLED MADDIE'S STUPID LITTLE SNAKE BITCH ASS!!!! I KNEW IT!!!

I've been saying for the past WEEK that there were too many little moments with her giving too knowing of a look with Vi and Cait at the memorial, to the way Ambessa says "in private" at her, the "void i was able to fill" thing didn't sit right with me, hell even rewatching her conversation with Vi in the First Episode was giving me warning flags, but EVERYONE kept saying "You're being too paranoid!" "You're just pissy that she slept with Caitlyn and saying she's evil to justify it!" blah blah blah!

I EXPECT apologies for Everyone that questioned me! the first and ONLY time my fully conscious gut decision lead me in the right direction and I Wasn't making a half assed joke at 3 in the morning! muahahahah!!!!!!!

(I'm gonna be relishing in this for the next week I'm SO not sorry)

ngl, if the thing with Maddie is what I think it is, I'm gonna be annoyed at it Definitely, but I don't think I'll be raging quite like I've seen other people doing. But if Maddie turns into a "wolf in sheep's clothing" kinda thing with her kind words, bubbly personality, being adoring of Caitlyn and all that noise THEN I'm gonna be pissed.

Cuz I'm Already mad enough at Ambessa and if Maddie is lumped on top of the pile I'm gonna turn into a LUNATIC. Like there's only So much I can take from this show before going insane...

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The Act 3 fight against Ambessa in a nutshell:

"Ok just leave the planning to Mel and Cait and for the Love of ALL things holy don't let Vi and Jayce within 20ft of each other while it's happening. With that, we should be all good! ... hopefully ... maybe..."