#c!tubbo neg

[x-i-l-verify]

c!Clingy, after stalking a sick, injured torture victim for weeks, breaking into his house, hunting him down like an animal as he desperately tried to defend himself/flee, and murdering him in cold blood in the very room where he was abused, starved, and tortured for nearly an entire year:

[barzfrommarz]

100 red flags chapter 20 spoilers

Now look I understand he is hurting, he is bottling up his emotions and I sympathize with that and can understand him lashing out but....please shut up for the love of fucking god you aren't helping the situation and are just proving the fact that the server isolates him when there are people who have done worse but aren't treated nearly as bad and holy shit I seriously don't care that you “lost respect for him” he is literally here because of a fucking suicide attempt and you know that. When will we be able to not lash out back at a clearly mentally ill man and make things worse for five seconds and just try to make things better instead because he literally cannot handle people lashing out so suddenly like this and yall made him feel threatened and he only has one healthy coping mechanism which is humor but yall took that away so he resorted to the ugly ones which just made you lash out and made things worse and now he's spiralling again for the third time and god knows he might have finally killed himself this time.  God these characters are in a never ending cycle of miscommunication and hurting each other

[sherpaherp]

At this point all I can say is if you don't watch Philza your opinion on Q!Phil means nothing

Sick of seeing people say that Q!Phil is a bad person and taking cc!Phil's obviously ooc moments as 'proof'

'i can't believe q!Phil just laughed at q!Tubbo's death in front of Sunny'

I can. Because it's Philza. Because it's block game. I'm sorry that your heavy rp moment on Tubbo's side was someone playing a video game on Phil's side

[haloberry]

Listen— listen to me when i say i want, full-heartedly, for Frubbo to come back.

But, for it to make fucking sense.

Fred, at this point in time, is like a guest star more than a full on love interest to q!Tubbo.

And yes, that coral date which i have my own issues with meant they are on good terms, but not enough for you to ignore the plotholes.

For Fred to have come on Valentines wouldn’t have made sense. For Fred to come back at all right now doesn’t make sense. Not until we address what had happened to the Bear Workers in the first place, and for where he went after the date.

For Fred to come back right now, it would have to cover where the og Fed Workers went, why there was no further communication, and why the Board decided to move spawn in the first place.

We need more actual lore before Frubbo lore me thinks, and until we get it, its just not going to feel right for Fred to pop back up in the storyline and “save” Tubbo.

As of now, unless the federation is directly involved with q!Tubbo’s revival, it won’t feel right.

[yoki-loves-stars]

i always loved the fact that Ghostbur became their own person

He always was treated as a memory, as leftovers, ashes of another person. Something to grieve about, someone to mourn. The person he knew as many things: a great and a terrible leader, a cold, evil or a caring and kind person. The memories of whom they held, yet they never were that person, never even knew them.

And when after going to limbo once he says that he no longer wants to go back to being Wilbur, that he doesn't want to die for Wilbur even though he believed people he loved needed that leader. For the first time he makes a decision for himself, to be himself even though it potentially can dissapoint his friends. He makes a decision not to sacrifice himself. He develops his own personality his own memories

i might be just crazy on the trope of clones/people that should've been a specific person creating their own life

and then Wilbur fucking Soot kills them

[cellberry]

Did you guys hear that c!Mumza canonically managed to save the souls of the Triple Ts when the nuke went off? She brought c!Tommy and c!Tubbo to meet c!Ranboo and Michael B in the nether-looking area and c!Jack to the End to meet the remaining Syndicate members. They can travel between the realms at any time ofc.

[pixiestickjoker]

old dsmp edit i made last year that i never posted lol

all animation clips belong to SAD-ist :D

[jackmanifold-daily]

dsmp finale doodles for the only guy ever

[ladyddanger]

Can’t stop thinking about c!Pumpkin duo being c!Tubbo’s idea of a healthy relationship. He and c!Ranboo get in a fight once and the whole time c!Tubbo is waiting to get hit or kicked out because that’s just what happens when you fight with your husband.

[piningpebbles]

just my quick two-cents on the ending but i thought some elements were really well done (c!jack’s feelings and bitterness, c!clingyduo getting to fight c!dream, c!sam’s reaction’s to dream’s death, c!punz’ reveal, etc.) but others (specifically the amnesia and kind of tone-deaf sudden sympathetic view of c!dream) were done really poorly. so while i really enjoyed some parts of it, and it’s always going to have that essence of the dream smp that i love so much, the ending (tommy’s last stream specifically) felt really cheap in terms of how it left the characters we’ve come to know so well.

here are some ideas i came up with for other ways i thought could’ve been cool for the ending to follow:

- tubbo and tommy kill dream. punz revives him but ends up turning on him and ultimately teaming with tommy and tubbo again but for real this time (though for his own reasons aside from just power). he doesn’t have to be a good guy, in fact this could’ve set him up to both get c!dream out of the picture and get punz into place as the major antagonist for the next chapter.

- tubbo and tommy kill dream. punz revives him, but this time tubbo and tommy run across the server telling everyone (if not everyone, just c!sam) that dream’s back and sam ends up working together with them to trap dream (and punz?) back in the prison. but just when sam’s ready to resign himself back to his own personal hell that is pandora’s vault, tubbo gets the idea to nuke the prison with the two still inside, where they all go to the nukes and find jack. jack and tommy argue, setting up jack as the current main antagonist for the next chapter as nothing is resolved between the two. and then sure enough, tommy, tubbo, sam, and jack all see the nukes blow up the prison.

- this one i actually thought was going to happen!! tubbo and tommy kill dream. punz revives him, and tommy plans to trap them both at the prison so tubbo can set off the nuke and kill them. the nuke is set to pandora’s vault. jack goes to the nukes, thinking tubbo’s on his side, and ends up targeting aiming the nukes towards tommy’s house/the hotel/bad and skeppy’s mansion. the explosion does reach the prison, but the impact only ends up killing dream and punz. tommy, tubbo, and jack then talk and help rebuilt whatever was caught the blast. if bad’s mansion is caught in the wreckage it’s a good building point for the egg to focus in for the next chapter.

[vim-is-posting]

dsmp characters i wished interacted more

Sam and Puffy

responsibility gang!! feels like the only Adults(TM) that aren't Phil.

try to do things right... (one constantly misses the mark and the other doesn't shoot much).

short sheep woman. tall creeper man.

if you headcanon mama Puffy, drama! or, no drama—if you don't wanna make her an involved parent >:)

Sam and Ponk

i need this. i need more raw emotion colliding with a stone-faced wall. i need Ponk to call Sam a bitch a bad person. and i need Sam to be conflicted—and hide that confliction.

Dream and Punz

MY BOYS! look at them! i need the boyfriends to commit crime together. and be soft and tender with eachother, because they are the only person the other can truly let their guard down with.

Tubbo and Dream

i mean... Tubbo, compared to Tommy, has seemingly matured more and seems more willing to try and understand Dream IF he ended up in some circumstance where avoiding or fighting Dream isn't an option.

Dream seems like he'd potentially put forth efforts to somewhat explain himself to Tubbo if given the opportunity (and if it didn't mess with His Plans).

George and Sapnap

there isn't enough. they care about things in such different ways. they don't talk. they can acknowledge situations in silence—of course they would, they know eachother well enough—and move on without words.

Sapnap is action oriented, he'll step in if he feels it's right... George withdraws further, avoiding confrontation if it isn't just a declaration of feeling or opinion.

[lockthespirits87]

No but I am so confused on why c!tubbo and c!tommy decided to invite c!punz. Because from a character and lore stand point, it made no fucking sense

They literally have no reason to trust c!punz. Yeah, he saved both of them one time, but other than that, c!punz has always been actively fighting AGAINST c!tommy and c!tubbo. He killed c!Wilbur twice. He fought with c!schaltt in the Manberg vs. Pogtopia war, if I remember right. c!tubbo and c!tommy should not trust c!punz.

And if anyone is thinking "well they were so happy they must thought of him since they wouldn't be alive without him" or "they owed him for saving them", both of those still should not have done shit for them to trust c!punz.

c!tubbo and c!tommy are both heavily traumatized characters. Sure, they were almost delirious with happiness, but obviously they weren't delirious enough. c!tommy mentioned not wanting c!bad because of his no swearing thing. cc!tubbo, using his face cam to show c!Tubbo's facial expressions, looked uncomfortable with having c!Sam join them because of when he kidnapped c!Michael. Point is, they can still recognize people they don't trust or like. Like I said before, c!Punz has done ONE thing to help c!tommy and c!tubbo. They are naturally suspicious and on guard at all times. They were not delirious enough to lose that suspicious or alertness

Second, c!Punz got paid for helping c!tubbo and c!tommy, right? They no longer owe him shit. They can (or could have, I guess), happily ignore c!punz. There is no debt, and if c!tommy and c!tubbo want peace, bring a mercenary is not the right step to do so.

If they left without talking to c!punz, sure he would have found c!dream was dead eventually, but c!tubbo and c!tommy could've had a HUGEEEE head start on c!dream, especially because they didn't want to be in the smp mainland anymore. That could have been a perfectly happy ending.

Granted, I'm still excited for the lore coming and the streams and all that, I'm just saying we could have gotten a happy ending if they didn't talk to c!punz like they shouldn't have done, in alliance to their characters and the lore

[mc-pumpkin]

Logically I know lots of niche dsmp info is lost or forgotten by plenty of fans, but I hate SEEING it. I hate seeing a take that says "UM you're fucking stupid if you think c!Phil is any sort of father figure to c!Tubbo" because, while I get where they're coming from, and I agree that c!Phil isn't very fatherly to c!Tubbo like. at all. I ALSO know that it is in fact true that c!Phil said "we picked c!Tubbo up from a box on the side of the road" and "you started calling me dad and I never corrected you" and calls Michael his grandson!

So while I don't lean into this at all I do see why someone else Would because these things Have been said. It's fine to dislike it but I think it's incredibly rude to call people stupid for enjoying something harmless >:|

[needlebeetles]

hey quick question. What, in your opinion, was the worst day of c!Tubbo’s life? Metrics here range from changes in behavior, to levels of isolation, to the degree to which it upends his status quo.

[un-seener]

I don’t know how any of y’all can call that ending good when it has Tommy apologizing to Dream. With Tommy saying he understands Dream. Sure, you could say Tommy has an unhealthy thing going on and it’s meant to show how fucked up he is but it’s not even remotely framed that way. Not even a little bit. Like hey hi what the fuck I don’t care how much history or what his reasons were. Either Tommy should beat that motherfucker with an axe or spit in his face with a defiant “guess we’ll both die” and that’s it. Why would they ever think this was a good idea

[zenoisnotkarma]

RECENT DSMP LORE SPOILERS FOR TOMMY AND TUBBO'S STREAMS.

These are old but god it would be so cool to see c!Ranboo on c!Dream's side.

Also a great way to bring Ranboo back since Tommy and Tubbo want to destroy the revive book.