#but what if there were 2 robins
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Personally think dc should have another fans choose poll but instead of choosing weather or not a character should die it should be to select what Tim Drakes hero name should be
#but what if there were 2 robins#but they don't specifically tell anyone#(but the ppl kinda figure it out after awhile)#and then its do you pray to get the smol stabby robin who won't hesitate to kick your ass#or#the slightly taller (mildly concerning) robin who won't always resort to violence#but can and will ruin your life#and potential prospects if he deems you a Bad Guy#dc#robin
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I've realized that there's this specific type of found family that I adore where it's just this one extremely concerning kid going around doing all this dangerous and reckless stuff and just summoning all these parental figures to them who all end up so stressed out and going "Kid, kid no. Go get some sleep, take care of yourself. Please, I can't keep doing this. Please just stop."
#found family#found family trope#it's just this one chaos gremlin and the 500+ parents#and the parents are losing#mha#sing#sing 2#nimona#star wars#ashoka and anakin both count here just for what they were putting obiwan and the clones through#star wars the clone wars#dc#marvel#arguably both spiderman and the robins#they would absolutely be friends by the way. at least one of them#castle swimmer#attack on titan#well at least early attack on titan. goes out the window soon after that really#troupe talk#ao3 tropes#fanfic tropes#fanfic#seabeast#sea beast
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actions have consequences
#WET french cat back again#robin le normand#spain nt#+#i burst out laughing when i saw he got a straight red at 20 mins when they were 2-0 up#also what is that reaction hes like no then yes give me card
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what do you mean there are batman trading cards. and why did i find out through a twitter post.
"I'll trade you a dick grayson grieving at a flying grayson poster for a joker looming over jason's dead body with a crowbar 🥰"
#i reblogged with the pics and what the trading cards is called btw <3#this is huge news to me.#literally what the hell#were you guys aware of this ???#i'd love to buy a pack or 2 holy shit !!#dc#dcu#dc comics#batfamily#batman#nightwing#dc robin#red hood
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I want a Batfam au were Tim and Damian have a normal sibling relationship, but due to the fact everyone else in the family has been the only child up until their adoption into the family and don’t necessarily have the most normal sibling relationships with each other (Jason+Dick pre Jason’s death didn’t talk, Jason has heavy resentment for Tim, Dick is more of a distant mentor/hero to Tim, Cass isn’t around much, and Duke is new to the family) they don’t realize Tim and Damian have a perfectly normal sibling relationship. But to their only child brains they don’t know this and subsequently they think Tim and Damian have a really unhealthy relationship and hate each other. Like they get Canary involved to observe them and she’s just really confused because her and Sarah (White Canary, and her little sister) do all this stuff all the time, this is normal.
#batfam#batfamily#tim drake#damian wayne#batman#red robin#dc robin#batfam au#Like siblings trying to kill and endanger each other is normal#(I know people that have chased their siblings around with knives and put their siblings in washing machines)#And seemingly hating your sibling is an average day#I feel like the majority of the Batfam don’t understand sibling relationships bc they are only children#Yes I also know that Damian and Tim were only children too#But out of the Batfam I think they have the most sibling esc relationship#Like calling your brother ��my little/baby brother” and “brat” in less than 2 pages is exactly what siblings do#I feel the rest of the Batfam are more distant with each other#Dick in Bludhaven#Jason with his own place#Cass traveling#Duke being new member of the family#They have their moments of “yeah they’re definitely siblings” but Tim and Damian are constantly acting like siblings#Their relationship is fundamentally different from the others in my head that I can stop thinking about it
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for some reason this question has been killing me this week and then suddenly i realized i should just run to your blog and ask you!! how old were tim and steph when they first met? my brain is giving me fourteen and fifteen but i'm now realizing i could have made that up instead of basing it in comics. (feel free to reply privately or publicly, dealer's choice)
Ah yes, the familiar character ages struggle😂
When it comes to comic characters (DC and Marvel especially) characters ages are rarely ever mentioned and when they are it’s generally extremely inconsistent
That being said, I don’t think Stephanie is even relevant enough for DC to have ever even mentioned her age definitely not that early in her appearances at least :(
However, I think it’s a fairly safe assumption to say her and Tim are the same age and his age is a bit easier to find or at least make an educated guess, and actually you pretty much got it!
Tim and Stephanie meet in Detective comics issue #648 which came out in July of 1992
In Robin (1993) Issue #9 which came out some time late 1993, we see Tim shopping for a car with his dad which implies that he can legally drive as a civilian which means he has to be at least 15 1/2 as that is the requirement in America for a driving permit. This is further supported when in Robin (1993) issue #116 we get to see Tim celebrating his 16th birthday (Which quick sidebar also tells us his birthday is July 19th!)
With that in mind we can reasonably place Tim at around 14 years old at the time he and Stephanie meet since the comics have a good bit of distance between them. And if we assume him and Stephanie are around the same age that would place her in that range as well
So yeah, saying they were 14/15 is a fairly good timeline even if you accidentally made it up😂! Hope this helped!🖤
#Sorry if the release dates are a bit off#I wasn’t alive in the 90s so I have to trust alternative sources#This is some rough guesstimating so if you have a different age headcannon I am not at all saying you can’t still have it#robin#tim drake#dc comics#tim drake robin#spoiler#stephanie brown spoiler#answering asks#thanks for the ask!#i hope this makes sense#i hope this was helpful#Also it’s a 95% sureness of the birthdate being the 19th just cause the numbers were bubbly#So it could have been 14th#But it looked like the 19th so I am almost positive that’s what it is#Tim Drake age guide#Stephanie brown age guide#Batfamily guide#Clarifying I would prob say Tim is like 14 and ten months or 1/2 when he meets Steph but that’s just me
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Why do author and creators and all those people who make shit put characters named Jason through so much? Like, I'm genuinely asking.
#jason grace#jason todd#jason voorhees#jason dean#what is the reason#jv saw his mom get decapitated#jt got beat with a crowbar#and brainwashed#and killed#all of which were done by the same person#jg gets unnecessary amounts of hate because he raised to be a soldier from the age of 2#and I don't even know what the hell happened with jd#i will not stand for this#tse's madness#I'm unnecessarily angry with life today#I should probably tag this with more tags hold on#hoo#dc comics#dc robin#heroes of olympus#heathers#friday the 13th
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Does anyone remember BBC's Robin Hood? Marian being a total girl boss would put on a mask and hood and suddenly she was THE NIGHTWATCHMAN and Guy of Gisborne (who was in love with her) could never recognise her and he would be like WHO IS THIS MAN??? MY ENEMY! I MUST KILL THE NIGHT WATCHMAN. Then The Nightwatchman would do a backflip and and run away. Also everyone was gay apart from Robin.
#Also everyone was gay apart from Robin#This show altered my brain chemistry as a child#Much deserved better why were they so mean to him#bbc robin hood#Also as a child I was so devastated by this show like inconsolable after series 2#It was so silly and camp but also sometimes serious like WHAT WAS THE TONE??#This was my Roman Empire
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Every week someone makes a post about how annoying it is that Dick Grayson fans don't acknowledge his flaws, and every week someone replies with an explanation that the flaws OP listed are entirely fanon and inconsistent with canon as it actually happened and at this point I have to assume that none of those explanations are ever going to stick because clearly some people just want the fanon to be true.
Anyway, I'm just putting this here for me to edit and add relevant-to-the-topic links later so I'll have them nicely at hand to read and sooth my frustrations when it gets real bad out there. (Echo chambers are good when we use them to drown out character mischaracterizing fanon.)
#dick grayson#canon vs fanon#yes this is about 'dick was a bad brother to jason' yet again#😮💨#super problematic how dick didn't pack up his life & become a devoted big brother to the new son of a man who had already disowned dick#like in-universe he is respectfully supportive of the kid who's wearing his name and uniform#but he was also a 19 year old living in a different city and not given any indication that he was a member of bruce's family so...?#dc comics#this fanon tendency to try to cram nuclear family dynamics and angst onto relationships that do not fit that mold arghhh#add to that how real-world knowledge makes it extra ridiculous to act as if 'omg dick was such a jerk for not being there for jason!!!'#yes their interactions were minimal - I'm pretty sure that keeping dick as a titans character was the entire reason jason existed!#let's be real about jason: his character & what led to him being robin were completely different pre-crisis + his post-crisis run was brief#understandably there are 'flashback' stories to flesh out his time as robin. the worst of these disregard characterization from that time#but even with flashbacks the worst that canon actually shows would be that they weren't close? which...okay?#idk what kind of expectations some people have for the former-ward so sort of foster kid who was explicitly kicked out of bruce wayne's lif#apparently he should've 1) begged his former guardian to acknowledge him as family & 2) assumed the role of bestest big brother either way#i'd ask people to stop and really think about the 'family' structure that existed in this time period where they insist dick was the bad gu#but at this point it's clear that people who want him to be the bad guy truly don't care about why we think it's absurd#anyway i'll end this with a reminder of what I'm pretty sure were the ages etc of the parties involved:#jason (12) gotham. adopted son of bruce.#dick (19) nyc. former ward of bruce. fired from role as partner to batman.#bruce (30+) gotham. raised dick as his ward → fired dick as a partner → never indicated dick still had any place in his life → adopted jaso#oh so my tags just cutting off the final letter like that? i will not be correcting them 😡
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That one post of my mine predictably aged like fine wine. Never let somebody on comic twitter in the writer's room😭😭😭 Like imagine a 1 to 1 adaptation of literally any event?? -1b at the box office. "Who are these people???"
#Anywayyy I'm writing a retelling of DC and it is honestly so fun to imagine the characters in a new but familiar light#Like the biggest reason why I was never interested in writing fanfic before 2 months ago is because I never felt like those characters were#I felt... uncomfortable writing it not because i thought fanfic was bad or anything but because I felt it was weird to write for example#“XYZ DID THIS AND DID THAT AND DID THIS” like maybe he did?? I wouldn't know I don't know him like his creator!!!#But comic characters feel like more flexible due to the many interpretations over the years but firm enough where I can decide how to take#Certain traits and minimize them or expand on them#Also 1 to 1 adaptations suck balls to write. I'm not sure if that's universal but the whole fun of writing is coming up with new ideas#Writing a straight adaptation would be kind of writing a translation into a new medium. Which isn't bad. Novelization are literally those#But a common sentiment among writers I've seen is that Novelizations aren't that fun either unless you get to experiment either#Adapting comics into a new format and retelling them is kind of hell because you have all these intersecting plotlines and insane events#That's just tangled up in a story with a timeline that literally makes its contradictions into plot lines. But it's FUN coming up with ways#To condense a character's origin and sort of rewire it into the story you want to tell. Because yeah I think a lot of people miss is#that at end of the day#you tell stories about people and their struggles. You need to find a way to fit those moments of joy sadness love.#Like a movie about Jason Todd being RH will never be emotional as Jason Todd dying because you'll have less time to feel the love and pain#that Bruce felt for him. Like sure#flashbacks and exposition but that can only go so far. At the end of the day#It will always be about RH vs Batman. That's what people came to see. But that's not all Jason is. He was Robin before he was RH. A 1 to 1#Adaptation will never translate that to screen. Plus you (sadly) have shared universes now and a movie can only jump around in time so much#For example in my fic if I wanted to add Tim and faithful to his source material I would need to add so MUCH about Jason death#About like Bruce grieving without skipping all over that and missing the human element. It would severely mess up pacing.#I don't know i love how adaptations can make you see the characters in a new light or elevate the source material#Iwtv my beloved doesn't adapt the books exactly but reimagined in it a way that I like much more#Anyway this proves my point about comic fans being weirdly childish and omfg I hate to use this term...anti intellectual 😮💨😮💨😮💨#Everyone who writes or yknow reads should like understand this on a fundamental level. One to one adaptations are safe but boring.#Like the Psycho remake was bad not because it made bad changes but it barely made any changes.#Anyway watch amc iwtv to understand good adaptations better than your average comic stan on twtter#Not a rant I just love discussing adaptations#Long tags
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can we pretty please get a live action al ghul based movie
#i have the whole thing written in my head#have been thinking about it for weeeeeeks#ras al ghul#talia al ghul#damian al ghul#ends with a waist-down angle of bruce with damian standing in front of him with the#i thought you were taller line from son of batman#or whatever it is#but it has to be after the batman 2 or even 3 depending on what robin they use#if they even go through with a robin#(please)#batman#bruce wayne
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robin obsession has evolved into i accidentally made like 3 or 4 fan robins im normal i think
#i dont knooow if babybird counts hes part of a concept thing i might not even go w in earth-r#its just a split version of jason w another half or something but i didnt get to that#and the other ones 2 of them were jokes#one i dubbed the ambigurobin cuz i wanted to make up a character that was like ''this could be any robin''#and with different bits and pieces mashed up but turns out when you mash a bunch of guys together you get a new kind of guy#aand the other guy. hes part of a duo the joke for him is hes edgy and inspired by 2000s dA ocs and its just.#the concept was what if batman and robin were the same age (teens) they fucking hate each other and i got too endeared by it#oh and the third one is just self-indulgent hes not a joke exactly but i felt silly making him for fun lol#maybe i will post them one day i might post the teen batman and robin cuz i like them. the batman isnt Batman but idk a good name 4 him#<- they were also semi- next gen i drew that robin w a flinx oc i made for a lol and ig thats good reasoning for them being bat and robby#i have many dc ocs actually theyve been piling up. 90% are for fun or self-indulgent and who knows which will ever be posted
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> be a robin buckley fan
> be lesbian
> project on robin
> look up "internalized homophobia robin buckley" on tumblr because it's cathartic
> 3/4 of the posts are about st3ddie or just about steve
#saw one in which steve was like ''no robin you don't understand! i have never been loved! i don't know how that feels like!''#i have several grips about that interpretation#going from the fact that's not true (dustin is clearly a big steve fan + robin herself cares about him deeply)#to the fact he probably wouldn't be introspective enough to voice his emotions this concisely not to mention he'd probably wouldn't take#a moment to realize he's never felt loved if that were the case. i mean. he could think that. when he's like 35 and more in touch with his#inner world. 19yo steve can't even get the hint that hitting on a girl who's already clearly taken (nancy) is wrong so like i don't expect#him to be that smart#but i can live with people having takes i don't agree with. my opinion doesn't have to be everyone else's opinion if you see steve that way#it fine#what bothered me was the fact he was saying this to a lesbian living in the 80s lmao#who tells him that 1) her whole life has been an error 2) she doesn't think he'd want to be close to her if he truly knew her and 3)#3) is paralyzed by fear of social suicide if she dares believe for even a second that the girl she likes may like her too#like i dont need people to do deep dives into robin lore and quote from memory lines from Surviving Hawkins abt robin feeling like she's#rotten inside. not supposed to have friends. feeling like something is wrong with her and that pushes people away etc etc#the fact that she's a lesbian should tell you enough abt who has the biggest chances of being loved 😭#also bothered me that it showed up when looking up posts abt internalized homophobia because?? where's the internalized homophobia therw#unless it's gay steve feeling bad abt it in an AU (as if canon robin didn't go through it)#like look im not bothered to find steve-centric content in the robin tag cos people are gonna tag her in posts mentioning her.#she's his friend.#but there are barely any posts at all about robin's internalized homophobia. like i saw 2 or 3. compared to all the steve or steddie ones#where's the love for my babygirl 😭😭#anti steddie#not really but y'know i don't wanna bother anyone#edit: the bit about there being like 3 posts on robin w internalized homophobia isn't exactly true. there are a few. but they still feel#drowned in st3ddie posts#like something isn't right here
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"why does jason have a white streak when other characters who die or use the lazarus pit dont 🤔" bc its a visual representation of how death and resurrection changed him in a way it didnt for the others you chud
#these same Buffoons get really confused as to why jasons death and resurrection is consistently treated differently from other characters#most comics characters are allowed to die for a little while without any real consequences#in or out of universe.#thats not what they were ever doing with jason.#back in the day people would say shit like the only characters in comics that dont come back from the dead are jason todd and uncle ben#jasons death was in 1988 and he came back in 2005#and for all that time--almost immediately post crisis--he was The Dead Robin#so yeah the narrative does treat his death with more weight than a character who was dead for like 2 years irl#and it should.#dc#its also really fucking annoying when ppl write someone saying shit to jason like 'we've all died you arent special'#like im going to hit you with hammers if you dont stop missing the FUCKING point
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It’s wild how so many people are fundamentally incapable of recognizing queer characters unless they explicitly say the words, “I’m gay” on screen
#like season 1 and 2? sure maybe you can overlook Will’s queercoding and believe it’s just a result of the bully’s homophobia#season 3 is a huge stretch but it’s hypothetically possible to believe will is just a late-bloomer or asexual#but how on earth do you watch season 4 and still genuinely have no idea will is gay?#and this is not a rare occurrence#it’s astonishing how many people you have to literally explain the van scene to cause Will’s sexuality never crossed their mind#you didn’t see him staring longingly at his best friend the entire season?#some people’s minds are so aggressively heteronormative that they assumed will had a crush on el#and even after noah has explained that will is gay 50 million times#people still are confused and think it came out of nowhere or they quickly forget#somewhere there’s a fan who doesn’t keep up with stranger things news and doesn’t really use social media#a fan who is the exact opposite of chronically online#who hasn’t heard about NOAH coming out let alone Will’s sexuality#who will walk into season 5 and be utterly flabbergasted when Will comes out as gay (let alone when Byler happens)#and they’ll say that Will being gay is a huge plot twist they never saw coming#and they’ll be 100% sincere#and that’s truly baffling to me#do people think shows just randomly include melodramatic rain fights where ‘it’s not my fault you don’t like girls’ is said for no reason?#do people think the show went out of its way to show wills rejecting the attractive girl in his class cause they were in a silly goofy mood?#I genuinely wanna know what goes on through people’s heads when they have no gaydar or media literacy#even today there are people who still think romantic stobin should happen and think that Robin isn’t really a lesbian#will byers#byler
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Obsessed with the dynamic (not romantic, not platonic, but a secret third thing--both and yet neither) between two characters who knew and cared about each deeply years ago when they were both younger and life was much less complicated.
But then, tragic, transformative circumstances separated them. Assuming that this separation was certainly permanent, because how could it not be?
And yet, somehow finding each other again years later, and sometimes they aren't sure whether the reunion that they once longed for with every fiber of their beings is a blessing, a curse, a joke, or a punishment.
Because they've both changed in the intervening years--largely because of the hellish circumstances that caused their separation. They've both changed completely and irrevocably, even if one of them has changed much more noticeably and dramatically than the other to the point of seeming a complete stranger. It is about leaning to see and appreciate all the things that have changed about the other and all the things that have not changed. It's about learning to reconcile beloved, often rose-tinted memories with the complex, yet-equally-compelling reality of the person those memories are about.
#it's the very particular sensation of loving someone who is both recognizably your beloved childhood partner-in-mischief#while also being someone so different (physically; mentally; and/or emotionally) that you can scarcely see their past self in them#and knowing the feeling is mutual#and also knowing that the only person who can truly understand the full extent of the change in you is each other#because their transformation is linked to your own#forged in and through the unique experiences that you shared and the way you were separated#it's the idealized adoration of youthful playmates/pseudo-siblings#transforming into a very different but no less powerful connection in adulthood#that's what really gets me#it's just#*chefs kiss*#estabalena#nahyupollo#jaydick#anyway this post is specifically about estabalena and jaydick#and to a lesser extent apollo/nahyuta#but it doesn't really matter if people tag and respond with other ships#even the narumitsus provided they recognize that not every post was made for them#it goes double for jaydick and estabalena tho since they each have two (2) shared formative and transformative experiences#that few (if any) others can possibly understand#for estabalena; it's the 41 years of suffering in the dark times and the crystal well magic flowing through ones veins#for jaydick; it's the experience of being "Robin' and feeling that the role and all it means was ripped from you too soon#and then it's the experience of dying and your family failing to welcome you back with open arms#because you didn't come back 'right' or quick enough#and that you 'chose' to stay away rather than circumstances forcing the issue#apollo/nahyuta also has the jaydick parallels in terms of bruce and dhurke#it's recognizing that your very human shared father figure failed you in many ways#even as he simultaneously saved you in others#he made you both the best version of yourself while also creating or enabling all of your worst tendencies#just
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