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Guys it’s happening❤️

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Bruh what if S5 starts with Will getting Vecna'd on that hill? I mean it is a huge possibility. My baby boy has it coming for him i am afraid

Hey nonny, I'm sorry that i took a bit to get to this.

Listen this may very well go into cornplating territory. But listen to me. I've been dying to talk about the possibility of Will already being in a Vecna vision. Check this out

I'm sorry but from the moment we go on Will's pov feeling the neck thing until the colour of the sky changes (like it did when Vecna transformed into Max's mom) NOBODY MOVES EXCEPT JONATHAN!!! Check Hopper and Mike out!!! That's so fucking weird bro!! I invite you to rewatch the scene again. It looks weird, it looks jarring, it takes place in a WHILE. Know when we saw that last?!

Lucas in the scene when Max takes off the headphones and stars taunting Vecna. I invite you to rewatch that one too because it is jarring how still he is. Literally unmoving while Max talks,moves,etc. And if you closely look at him, the only thing he does for a while is . Look at her. Like Jonathan here. Literally only sideways glances. Lucas genuinely looks entranced and it turns out it was Vecna already!!

Now. What's super fucking weird about this is that we immediately get so many pov shots of El and the other characters it can't be solely a Vecna vision. Like, Erica and Lucas, the entire school,everyone is seeing this. But...Maybe it's both??? Anyway I haven't put my finger on it yet but my gut says Will is getting visited by Vecna RIGHT there and then. As a recruitment attempt, but visited nonetheless.

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Milevens are straight people who don’t know how being gay feels because wtf

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this is the wildest take i’ve seen in a WHILE

bro acting like we’re this huge conspiracy is a WILD take to have. like we’re not simply pointing out things FROM THE SHOW. this comment is so dramatic too like- “to chip away at the fabric of reality” sit down 💀 it reminds me way too much of the argument the far right uses against trans people “we don’t care who you ship but stop pushing it on us!” when we’re literally just existing in a shared space. just say gay people make you uncomfortable and move on.

this was under @butter-bubbles reddit post (incredible read btw very detailed and well done)

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"i wish will didn't ruin this shot" and they act like noah was in the shot for funsies just cause he wanted to stand there and not literally put there by the directors almost like....it's all planned and on purpose and like the whole point.....shhhh guys they're almost figuring it out

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I WAS NOT READY FOR THIS

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It becomes so obvious that Milkvan isn't supposed to be endgame when you compare the development (or lack thereof) of their relationship to Lumax's. Mike and El are supposedly the main characters and "the main couple" of the show, but if this were actually the case, then why wouldn't the writers spend more time developing their relationship like they have developed Lumax's?

Truth be told, Mike and El's storyline does not have much "development" beyond what happens in the show on a surface level. In s1, they meet each other, become friends, and Mike hides and protects El from the people who are trying to harm her. When he loses her at the end of s1, he subsequently misses her a lot in s2 and they spend the season looking for each other. It's very sweet when they reunite, but even so, not a lot is happening with their relationship besides the obvious, which is that they are happy to see each other again.

Contrast this to Lumax in s2, which portrays an actual relationship DYNAMIC that goes beyond a surface level. Lucas likes Max, and Max likes Lucas, but there are so many layers to how they feel about each other and what is actually going on between them. Lucas likes and cares about Max and wants to get to know her better, but he is genuinely afraid for her safety and doesn't want to involve her in the supernatural. On the other side of it, Max is clearly drawn to Lucas the more she gets to know him, but she has a difficult time trusting or opening up to people, especially when she realizes that the boys are deliberately shunning her and leaving her out of the know and AV Club meetings. Not to mention the entire problem of race, wherein Max is afraid of how her racist, emotionally abusive brother is going to react to her becoming intimately involved with a black boy. Needless to say, Lumax from the very beginning is a complex relationship that has lots of layers, while Mike and El's relationship is pretty straightforward: boy loses girl, boy and girl miss each other, boy and girl are happy to be reunited.

While s3 doesn't do a whole lot for Lucas and Max other than showing them being cute together, it does set the stage for s4 Lumax, which beautifully continues the aforementioned themes. In s2, we are introduced to the idea of Lucas wanting to open up Max and allow her to be in the know, but he does so with the fear that she could get herself killed: that he could lose her. Max, too, is unsure about the amount of risk that comes with opening herself up to somebody, and the answer to both of these problems is both characters' worst nightmare: Max getting hurt and them losing each other. We see Lucas trying so hard and doing everything he can to reach out to Max. He loves her so selflessly and wants her to know that he is there for her no matter what, but she is of course still so traumatized from what happened to Billy and scared of what Vecna is doing to her that she struggles to open herself up freely. And when she finally does, she STILL reaps the consequences and is targeted by Vecna. And of course Lucas feels like his worst fears have become a reality, and Max's ultimate fate is a direct follow up to the initial conflict that was set up for Lumax in s2.

Think about how much thought had to be put into creating that relationship for it to not only work but to be well-executed within the show itself. Not to mention that all of these story elements get developed by way of Lumax developing both as individuals and as a couple. We see them succumbing to their fears. We see them growing apart and together. Most importantly, we see them COMMUNICATING. Max pulls away from Lucas because she is afraid, but Lucas pulls her right back in and assures her that he is there for her, he is protecting her, he loves her. Do we see any of this depth for Milkvan? No. Because there isn't any depth.

In what season (or scene for that matter) have we ever watched Mike and El struggle against what they are faced with both individually and as a couple?? Mind you, there have been plenty of opportunities in this story for Mike and El to develop and to take things on together. And in a very literal sense, they DO take on things together, these things are just utterly surface-level and transparent. Mike is scared that people are under or overestimating El and what her powers are capable of, so he bats for her and tries his best to advocate for her and be by her side. Okay, that's great. El, on the other hand, worries that Mike could be holding her back so she tries relying on herself and her newfound best friend for strength (interesting writing choice lmao). Again, great. But what's happening here beyond a surface level? Nothing. There are no subsequent layers to Mike and El's relationship that the show would have us dive into. And if we ARE in fact supposed to dig into Mike and El's relationship, we are only doing so...

To directly contrast the lack of depth in Milkvan's relationship to the depth we see in Mike and Will's relationship. Milkvan hasn't been layered and built up the same way Byler has because they are not a main focus of the story. Byler IS, on the other hand, which is why their relationship is just as fleshed out and developed as Lumax's. Milkvan gets virtually no development beyond a surface level for four whole seasons, meanwhile Byler's relationship shifts and changes again and again. Even from the beginning, when we barely see Mike and Will interact, we are shown that they share a special bond that is contrasted to the platonic friendship that the other boys have, and we see Mike ceaselessly, endlessly searching for Will with no intention on ever giving up (side note: when Mike is missing El in s2, does he ever throw the tantrums he threw for Will or try to get everyone else involved in finding El the way he did for Will?? Does he ever claim to be the "only one who cares about El?" No). When he finds Will, he stays stuck to him like glue and does everything in his power to watch over and protect Will, the same way Lucas does for Max. In s3, we see Mike and Will's relationship get rocky and we see them struggle, but we also see Mike develop and go the distance as far as mending his relationship with Will, which is something we barely see for Mike and El in the same season. And then in s4, we see the ultimate demonstration of Mike and Will literally working as a team, taking on each other's problems, and most importantly, COMMUNICATING about said problems. They check in on each other, they make sure that the other is okay. They are real about their feelings and don't deliberately hide things from one another (besides the fact that they love each other, ofc, which they only feel the need to hide because it is unsafe and because they are afraid of how the other would react). Needless to say, Lumax and Byler are both well-written, fleshed out, and get development. There are many layers to these relationships as well as shifting dynamics and real, relevant plot threads. Milkvan gets none of these things. Probably because their relationship does not go much deeper than "they care about each other." The only thing worth exploring in terms of the depth of their relationship is all the things Mike isn't able to do and the ways he isn't able to be there for El because his priorities lie with Will.

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MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎄

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oh so they REALLY are endgame

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Here’s my @bylersecretsanta for @madwheelerz !! A cute lil Mistletoe Kiss 💜

Bonus:

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Defeating the dragon for God Will…

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Happy birthday to Finn 🔆❤️

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"Without heart we'd all fall apart even El me especially El me" is not only incredibly not subtle foreshadowing but also a literal chekhov's gun especially considering the focus Will is going to have next season. Like oh Will told us what would break him emotionally and what gives him strength to withstand (amongst other things) the literal supernatural evil that pursues him. This information will however not be used in s5 in some way, the season where Will will come face to face with the enemy. -> makes no sense at all.

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If y'all know Vickie's queer you should know Mike. She never said she was. Maybe she was just surprised to see Robin that didn't have to be attraction. Her boyfriend didn't like Fast Times but Steve said maybe it was a brother. Idk guys could still be straight idk

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Sadie's wrap post!

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