#bi and lesbian SOLIDARITY yall

[macbxth-pdf]

The way social media loves to push content that pits bi sapphics & lesbians against each other is insane. And both sides fall for it every time. And it’s so draining. Like non sapphics literally admit to the fact that they know that stirring the pot literally gets them engagement.

And yet some how every time there’s always one person who says

“And notice how a (lesbian/bi girl) is always the reason why they act like this.”

Like unpack that shit for a second. If it’s trauma on both ends that’s for YALL to unpack.

[femgoddess-hecate]

Happy Lesbian day of visibility to all the adult human female lesbians and no one else 💖

[dream-sans-mogai]

Anyway, because I'm considered a bigger creator within the mogai community and I have a responsibility to address things given my bigger audience-

Please remember that Tumblr, especially LGBT Tumblr concerning discourse and intracommunity issues, is a hyper niche, reactive, violent, sensitive community with next to zero basis in reality at large and you should not take any of its opinions as absolute fact. Especially the mogai community's opinions.

A lot of people on mogai Tumblr talk big game with very clearly fake the-whole-bus-clapped stories about the real world concerning acceptance towards mspec monos, Neopronouns and Xenogenders and it's my job as an adult and guiding voice to remind people these experiences may happen but rarely do and you absolutely should not just tell random people you use purr/purrs pronouns or your a bi gaybian or you identify as Chronosian or other things like that because it's really fucking dangerous even in hyper progressive places like new york, cali and Detroit. It can be deadly in many many small towns, including ones in progressive states. Especially dangerous in non accepting states.

I don't say this to burst your bubble or ruin your hopeful world view but many stories of acceptance are fake, even if some are true, most of the community is underage and just cause your teacher may approve of your Soniccharic identity, doesn't mean they won't tell your transphobic parents. It's scary and dangerous out here for trans and gay people rn and I won't be one of the idiots who tell you to run and frolic with your Xenogender pins Infront of increasingly hostile transphobes. I want the younger gen z trans people to survive and I won't lie to you about the reality of the battle we all are staring down concerning project 2025.

Most of the people telling these stories live in progressive states and do not tell you about the failed times or exaggerate the acceptance they supposedly received. I'm telling you from the mouth of someone who grew up in a tiny town in South Ohio with less than 1,000 people, it's still just as dangerous as it was 10 years ago. I still get followed in my home town. I still get stares in my home town. My actual home town, a place I grew up in where people knew me as the gnc dyke for a good while in my last 2 years of school. Do not spread this shit around to everyone. Nex didn't think they would become a victim, Brianna didn't think she would be one of the unlucky ones, plenty of those we've lost did not think they would die in hate crimes. I almost died in two of the hate crimes I've experienced.

You need to be really fucking careful and although I love than Neopronouns and Xenogenders are becoming more accepted by the larger LGBT community, you need to be very very VERY careful about what you do, what you wear and who you tell what because word spreads fast in suburbia and hate spreads faster. You do not want to be wearing a pin the day some white cishet magat decides he's tired of the "pedophiles" and chooses you as the first victim because you were the first he saw. Don't hide who you are but Be. Fucking. Careful.

[mintmatcha]

wait i did not word my last thing well i promise i dont hate or blame bi women!!! and ik that being with a man doesn’t invalidate their sexuality!! I hate when people say that shit. my gripe is with knowing you are not going to pursue the woman you match with (for whatever reason which is valid!!) but still talk and act like it's going somewhere insteadof being upfront with what you want in that moment. Ik its not something that all bi women do and its not just bi women doing it!! its just something ive noticed a little lately (at least in my dating pool) ik its a small minority!! bi women pls dont hate me i love yall fr I believe in sapphic solidarity through and through im not trying to be a mean or gatekeepy lesbian :( (also mega apologies to cruel-hiraeth I really wasn't trying to generalize or be mean or invalidate bi women! I'm from Alabama ik its not always safe to be in a queer relationship) sorry for this mint I shouldn't have worded my original ask that way >.<

its okay! misunderstandings happen :)

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why do people hate on bisexuals like they are being paid to holy shit. i know u dont but i know ur bi friendly but i just came across the most rabid biphobia from a lesbian i’ve ever seen (no shit on lesbians i love y’all. with all my heart.) like.

cw misogyny

calling bisexual women “rape meat” and “whores” and “sluts.” yall i swear to god go talk to some bi women irl!!! why are we sewing hatred among each other!!! do y’all (biphobes) even care about female solidarity

They do not care, no. Bisexual women are just an acceptable target for their misogyny and homophobia.

It's why they also go after gay women who used to be trafficked and harass them I'm a similar way. They have that internal belief that sex with a man makes a woman less valuable, used, gross. Wow, where have I heard that before?

And it's harder to punch up at straight women, so they go for people they know they can reach and hurt.

[bruhhemianrhapsody]

steve and robin loving women and also being gay solidarity

[maxellminidisc]

I really do not understand where this whole idea of lesbians and bisexual women branching off into individual identities and communities being a bad thing stemmed from but god it frustrates me as a bi woman/bi person in general and as a person who loves many many of my awesome big sexy lesbians friends.

Bisexual women and lesbians may have congregated as the same group once but we're not anymore, and thats FINE and its actually a good thing! Because despite the overlap in experiences as women who are attracted to women (and yes I am including trans women when I say women), bisexual women and lesbians still have significant differences in experience and marginalization unique to their attraction that need to be addressed as separate communites because being aware of these differences provides a basis for us to tackle said issues in a way that is specifically conscious and adapted to our individual communities and forms of opression. God I hope that makes sense lol

Like as a WHOLE community we ALL have overlap in experiencing homophobia or bigotry directed as us for not conforming to gender and expression the way cis heteronormative society wants us to (i.e butch lesbians, effeminate gay men, trans/non binary people who do not pass/choose not to pass, etc) but we all as individual communities in one, face individual types of marginalization that we need to talk about so that those who don't experience it in the broader community and outside of it understand us.

For example cishet society hates lesbians for NOT being attracted to men and being attracted to women instead, it hates gay men for being attracted to men and not women, bisexuals are scrutinized for the fact that we have fluid attraction, trans folks but particularly trans women are hated for being women despite the assigned gender that society expects for them to conform to and at the same time intertwine that specific transphobia with misogyny which thusly creates transmisogyny (I'm sorry of I phrased this badly, I would absolutely appreciate correction!), etc. It is incredibly important that we acknowledge those specific and DIFFERENT experiences that we are targeted with because other wise it'd be like being blind to each others suffering.

And in the case of lesbian and bisexual women, trying to lump us in as one big group again erases the history of opression lesbians specifically face and fought for being women who do not show attraction to men and for being women who love women and take joy in sexual and romantic pleasure in loving women, and to do so proudly, despite societies insistence that women have to be with men. For bisexual women it creates and perpetuates the god awful attitude that bisexuality as an identity is simply not enough all in its own. It is yet another unnecessary ammendment made to bisexuality because y'all dont want to question the internalized issues you may have with it. Lesbianism excluding the attraction to men is not a threat to those of us who have attraction to women ALONG SIDE an attraction to men in ANY capacity, that is literally what bisexuality is for and that's ENOUGH!!! Some bisexuals are drawn more to women than men, but still acknowledge that part of them is still attracted to men and guess what, THAT'S STILL BISEXUALITY AND ITS FINE!!!! There is literally 0 need to impose an attraction to men on to lesbians like AT ALL and acting like we have to go back to being the same group does exactly that.

And to top it off, lesbianism does not exclude nonbinary folks and trans women just as bisexuality doesn't exclude nonbinary and trans people as a whole; trying to lump us in together with attraction to non binary people as an excuse is fucking stupid and gross. Because again, you're perpetuating the lesbophobic belief that all lesbians are trans exclusionist and the biphobic belief that bisexuals are transphobic and limited or binary in their attraction.

I of course haven't even touched on the specific difference of how bisexuality and lesbianism differ in terms of social impact such as ipv, addiction, depression, etc. There are lots of studies and statistics that show the numbers are different between us and even between us and the rest of the community! Being able to be separate respected communities allows us to see the impact of biphobia and lesbophobia as two specific forms of oppression and find the right kind if help and resources for us to heal as lesbian or bisexual women!!!

Do you like not literally see how trying to make us one big group with 0 acknowledgement of how significant our difference are is harmful?

[blackradandmad]

asking as a bisexual woman to lesbians only, what is something you would like to see bisexuals do differently to better support you as individuals or politically?

[neopronounsmybelovaed]

i wanted to correct something that an anon said on an ask: the meaning of bisexual hasn't "changed" to "become more inclusive", it has always been inclusive!! always been inclusive of trans and nonbinary people, etc

Yeah, bisexual has totally always been inclusive. I think anon may have meant that a more inclusive definition has become more widespread in recent years? Thanks for this ask to clarify though :)

[i-love-my-trans-body]

alloace and alloaro positivity!!! y’all are wonderful ✨

[exclusionists/aphobes/terfs DNI]

[jenifercheck]

Sometimes I remember how absolute biphobic the crazy ex girlfriend fandom became about Valencia.

[defness2electricboogaloo]

Okay so Susie Deltarune Bisexual not up for debate

[ifthepuppetmakesyousmile]

@the-bee-gees sent the prompt "Lesbian 🏳️‍🌈"

[postapocalyptic-cryptic-hold]

I have decided that bi girls are too pretty. If I see another one of y’all with the cuffed jeans and the turtlenecks and the belts I WILL marry you. Stop it. That’s illegal.

[bisansastarks]

Is is literally so healing to bitch to @nadjas about straight people nonsense

[cruelsister-moved]

imo lesbians and bi women don't have any systematic power to wield against eachother but we do, like all human beings, have the ability to hurt eachother. can we please put aside the competition to be the victim and dehumanise eachother, and stop trying to have discussions on a systematic level, and instead just try to like connect with eachother as women and as a community.

sometimes we have different needs and experiences and that's okay and we can compromise to help make eachother feel loved and supported and welcome without turning it into an ideological battle that it does not need to be. we can respect that we sometimes need our own spaces or language to describe our experiences and that doesn't undermine our solidarity. we can also step back and recognise when our hurt mutates into unnecessary cruelty!

no one expects gay men and bi men to act like their experiences are identical or to never have disagreements with eachother!!! it hasnt avoided my notice all the gbt men stoking the flames of an issue that doesn't impact them at all with zero awareness of our lived experiences. this is not for you to comment on. why do you view the interactions of wlw with such a microscope, yet when it comes time for gay men to stick up for lesbians, bi men for bi women, and trans men for trans women, suddenly yall are very quiet?