#berniebro

[heterorealism]

[jakeowen]

the thing that’s absolutely nuts about grad school is that i’m an adult, most of these people are adults, and we can generally be normal like adults do. but also. some of these people??? are 22. how is that allowed

[hero-israel]

https://www.tumblr.com/tikkunolamorgtfo/751375168159531008

I swear to God, people's fucking sociopathic hatred of Jews is literally gonna get all of us and democracy killed at this rate.

"Oh, Ukraine is led by a Jew and has a small contingent of Nazis that don't represent the whole? Let's let the Russian fascist with even more Nazis on his side win and exterminate them in the name of opposing the EEEVIL American empire!"

"Oh, the Jews are fighting a messy and complicated situation against a terrorist organization, while the Jews' leadership is a far right wing nut who's doing this to stay out of jail and is basically hated by a substantial portion of the civilian populace for his incompetence and cruelty, but they're also stuck in a bad situation because of said Qatar owned terrorist organization! KILL ALL JEWS in Israel and let the American Fascist Trump defeat Biden and risk plunging the world into a authoritarian hellhole because our fee fees feel bad!"

It's ridiculous how much people gleefully turn to evil and are willing to allow humanity to suffer as a whole just because they hate Jews more than they value humanity.

I had a close friend hit me with "There should be NO further support for Ukraine or Israel, and the protestors are anti-war". It was dismaying and we were only able to work it out instead of having an awful fight because this person is Jewish and a two-stater - that kept SOME things on the ground - and also because I'd memorized enough greatest hits from posting here that I could ask the right questions really quickly.

It is not at all a coincidence - nowhere near, not remotely - that the message spread to online leftists and bitterclinging BernieBros is to support authoritarian dictatorships worldwide. "The system is rigged" evolves very easily to "THIS system and all it claims to be true must be undermined, whoever is against it is who I'm for".

[crescent-coral-base]

Former Facebook friend I have long since nicknamed "Comrade Maximum BernieBro" to me in 2016:

You seem to think being President is like being a King, an Emperor, or a Dictator. Sensible Republicans and the Supreme Court will rein him in and moderate him. It's more important that we stop Hillary from winning.

Me in response in 2016:

It's not a matter of whether *I* think the president is like a king, emperor, or dictator. It's whether Donald Trump thinks he's a king, emperor or dictator and if the Republican Party and the judges and justices a President Trump will appoint think that President Trump is AND SHOULD BE a king, emperor, or dictator, and, consequently, above the laws which govern ordinary men.

Me today in 2024: Well, we have our answer to that question, don't we?

[woman-respecter]

wait feel free to ignore this if ur not taking more chappell-related asks but i hadn't seen her full statement on the election before and the context somehow makes it worse. her saying to "vote small" on local matters and such specifically feels like such a republican-leaning statement. like don't worry about the wannabe dictator that could take the white house as long as your local republican rep seems sane

nah i didn't mind the vote small thing too much. reminding people of the impact of downballot races, from school board to governor, is one of the tactics that us normies use to convince the disillusioned berniebros to get out the vote, so i appreciate her saying that at least

[radfemsiren]

I suspect the elon musk hate partially comes from a place of shame at having once liked him… very similar to how former harry potter obsessives are now equally as obsessed with jk rowling. I remember the days of elon musk and reddit going hand in hand. Every millennial nerd loved him, he was an epic science bro, he was making rocket launchers and posting memes, he was literally tony stark, etc. Now that he’s MAGA, they have to overcompensate and seethe at him.

True! And it’s very funny that I often lambast the internet about having short term memory, but I actually did forget how much of a beloved figure he was💀

Never to communities I was in, but he was the messiah to Berniebro and center lib men for so long… I have no idea why a rich businessman from an apartheid emerald mining family was so highly regarded in the first place amongst lefty men, but male supremacy does hide the flaws of male celebs very well.

If he didn’t go full mask off alt right, they’d still fight for him now, no matter how many stories come out of him being terrible to his wives and children, and being a typical con artist, shady businessman

[collapsedsquid]

Similar to the way that The Last Jedi was about Poe's need to #standwithher and not run away from the Resistance as a BernieBro despite the Resistance's total failure, the new Star Trek Picard is about whether 7 of 9 must over come her selfishness in organizing independently and join the feckless and abusive American democratic party/federal bureaucracy/Federation

[cyarskj1899]

Hope your protest vote was worth it, Dearborn.

She like those with their revenge votes just murdered every Palestinian.

Her name is Rania Masri. She's a Berniebro bigmouth. She claims to be a human rights activist, but apparently doesn't give a single shit about marginalized populations within the United States.

[cyarsk5230]

WE DON’T UNDERSTAND out of control RADICALIZED kids!

Any protest on ANY college campus that is INCITING RACISM, ANTISEMITISM, & VIOLENCE should be SHUT DOWN!

IDGAD what BernieBros think, colleges have an obligation to keep ALL STUDENTS SAFE.

SHUT IT TF DOWN!!!

[nictelsm]

Is it just me or has Big Lips Berniebro Mcgee been in too many houses? I come across a website often where it gives us supposed information about specific people, and the supposed info on Andrew Hussie on that site lists a lot of houses. I don't know if he's been renting them or if it's just his other family members, but he is definitely messed up when he moves houses after a few weeks or months. Jeesh.

Maybe I'm the wrong one here and I maybe he's moved houses once a year or two, but y'know.

[opold]

not the queer polyfag horrorslut blogger claiming berniebro protest voters were the reason Hilary lost in 2016

[dhaaruni]

Does that book talk about what Hillary's standing among younger blacks was like? Ngl, I'm genuinely curious how many of them bought into the Berniebros' BS.

Yeah I mean, Bernie definitely did better with younger Black voters than older ones in 2016 and 2020, but Hillary Clinton got 73% of the vote in the 2016 South Carolina primary and won every single county over Bernie and the median age of a Black person in South Carolina is 35.7 years old. That's a millennial, not even Gen-X lol.

And, in 2020, Bernie lost every single county in the Michigan and Florida primaries, including Alachua and Washtenaw, where the Universities of Florida and Michigan respectively are located, and Biden won Wayne County, which is Detroit, with 54.4% of the vote, greater than the margin he won the state by, so like ... yeah.

[mariacallous]

Hi Boss,

I turn to you as the most thoughtful lady around for something I'm... I guess struggling with.

So listening to the Podcast "A Little Bit Culty" and the hosts started talking about how "both sides" in (American) politics "feel a little bit culty" they cited the labels they'd been called for expressing that most softly in the past "Trumper, and what was it? LibTard?" and basically saying "us vs them" is culty and that demonizing other is and how you can agree with some stuff without being 100% on the same side (which I do agree with)

and of course as a dyed in the wool true believing Democratic Democrat, my knee jerk gut reaction was "NO" but I'm struggling somewhat to come up with an intellectual non-emotional response to that. Now maybe it's one of those things where people claim victory because you had an emotional response to being told you're the same as conspiracy theory, white nationalist, homophobic anti-science nut jobs.

I would also point out being called a "Trumper" isn't an insult as such, its saying "you're a support of a former American President" vs LibTard which is saying being a liberal makes you mentally subnormal.

idk what are your thoughts, are there "a little bit culty" elements on the left? are they influential? and how much of the right is... kinda a cult?

I think they're oversimplifying and conflating things, for the most part - that both-sidesism thing is so easy to pull out and point to.

That said...

One of the things that struck me from rewatching The Way Down was when one of the commentators/speakers/experts they had said/argued that a cult is "a group of people who have a common bond or belief which maybe is not mainstream" and then went on to say that what is usually discussed is a "destructive or abusive cult" where, "instead of the group existing to serve the needs of the followers, the followers exist to serve the need of the leader" because obviously that kind of distinction is not made (how cults are defined and whether it is inherently pejorative or negative is a huge debate and is a whole other thing tbh).

The examples that they provided are actually pretty horrible ones to justify their argument - "us vs them" has been around since time immemorial and is actually one of the most consistently mainstream things around. Political polarization is not (inherently) "culty", and the issue of demonizing your opponents is just as mainstream.

Being called a Trumper (or Trumpeter or MAGAhead or whatever) is not the same as being called a libtard for the reasons you point out - like the implication of mental deficiencies or issues with Trumper et. al is implied whereas with libtard that's just explicitly and directly insulting someone's mental capacity.

I think that a lot of the BernieBros or leftists are "a little bit culty", at this point, based on how they've been acting and responding ever since 2015. There's a rigidity and continued fixation on a particular person or particular set of specific legislation or other totemic acts as the key to personal and political salvation and anyone who doesn't believe or follow them the right way is suspect and not worthy of support/deserves castigation, but even they aren't on the same level as the right.

Because the fundamental difference between the culty or ideologically extreme elements of the right versus the left is that the former is actively and loudly arguing for the death of and general violence towards those they oppose or perceive to be in opposition to them, and, for the most part, the left isn't, and certainly not to the same extent or same capacity and capability. It's like saying the chihuahua and the caucasian ovcharka are equally aggressive and equally equipped to attack.

[ozymandiasdisorder]

This is the same as berniebros who believed that Bernie was actually a communist who was just hiding his true beliefs

this shit is QAnon for democrats

[whatreyoulookingatdicknose]

Still funny, after all these years #election216 #election2024 #originalstopthesteal #berniebros

[linuxbian]

Right now it's "the is left failing bc it's too mean to men", but I distinctly remember that it was the misogynistic BernieBros that centerists were handwringing about last time. Inch resting.