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query for the Dick Grayson fans:
If Dick didn't have to be Batman or take care of Damian during the 2009/2010 era - what do you think he would've done instead?
I personally lean towards staying in New York, as I know that's where he was living since Bludhaven got nuked. But I don't know anything else more specific since I'm not super versed in Nightwing comics before that particular era. Obviously the Titans would come back into play.......
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Some context for the question:
I'm currently writing a frighteningly expansive au where BfTC changes pretty drastically, thus shifting later comics a good bit. TLDR is Cass becomes Batman so Dick doesn't have to, and Bette Kane is the one who takes care of Damian until Bruce returns from his time travel shenanigans. Jason goes through a real Greek tragedy ordeal dealing with his life post-UtRH and post-Bruce's death. Tim's storyline throughout the 2009 era stays the same, he just actually communicates with people just a teeny-tiny bit more. Steph also becomes Batgirl like in canon, but I just don't like a lot of the writing in her Batgirl run - so I'm currently trying to reconcile that with what I think would be a lil better. The au has a very large Bette Kane focus too, as a what-if to Bette being incorporated to the larger dynamics of the "Batfam".
#dc#dick grayson#nightwing#dc comics#dickie fans pls reply!!!!#I need this for my au#taxonomy!verse#batman#battle for the cowl 2009#batman and robin#batman and robin 2009#fyi im a Dick Grayson should be an independent hero enjoyer#I prefer him with the titans most of the time#dickbats
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Selina Kyle is the most forgiving person ever. Ivy mind controlled her multiple times, Harley shot her, Jason pushed her off a roof.
#dc comics#dc#comics#comic books#batman: hush#batman hush#gotham city sirens 2009#gotham city sirens#battle for the cowl#bftc#character appreciation#character analysis#selina kyle#catwoman#funny#media commentary#character dynamics#poison ivy#dr pamela isley#harley quinn#dr harleen quinzel#jason todd#red hood#batkids#batfam#gotham sirens#batman comics#catwoman comics
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First panel is by Tony Daniel and from battle for the cowl, the rest is my art.
There is nothing that can convince me this wouldn't have happened if Damian held onto consciousness a little bit longer, he loves antagonizing people.
The image appears as if it's posted twice because I had no clue which would be more convenient for reading, one row by one row, or all at once. probably depends if you're on desktop or mobile
#dc comics#damian wayne#robin#i mean not yet but :P#dc fanart#dick grayson#nightwing#batman#battle for the cowl#2009 era batfam stuff#batfam#jason todd#blood cw#my art
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for the ask game, an AU where (somehow…) jason and tim (begrudgingly) team up in the search for a hero/battle for the cowl era (either when jason says tim should work with him on the gang stuff or when batman jason asks tim to be his robin) :]
for the ask game!
god, Search For A Hero my beloved. for the Search For A Hero version of their team-up, I think I'd write it something like this
I think the biggest reason Tim says no when Jason asks him is Jason asks Tim too early in the arc. as the storyline develops, Tim gets more and more desperate to best Ulysses, which is what pushes him to make the mistake that gets Ulysses' siblings killed. he's in a tight spot and he misjudges the situation. (i think the guilt he carries from that moment is one of the biggest inciting incidents for becoming Red Robin) so, i'd introduce Jason to the plot just a little later. just as Tim is on the edge of desperation. Tim isn't entirely adverse to working with villains if he thinks he can stay on top of them. so instead of sending Jason to prison, i think if Jason came to Tim at the right time, Tim would begrudging accept Jason's help
part of Tim's plan would be leveraging Jason's power with the mafia/mob scene in Gotham. they'd agree that topping the gangs would just cause a power vacuum (i'm pretty sure that's actually addressed in SFAH but i could be misremembering) so it's more about a balancing act, which is where Jason thrives. Tim is right on the cusp of being willing to do more morally questionable things, so it'd be a fun internal war for him to second-guess himself at every turn.
there would be such a delightful lack of trust in their partnerships. TIm has *zero* reason to trust Jason, and while Jason likes Tim enough, i don't think he's naive enough to put any trust in Tim. so there'd be moments where they don't fill each other in on aspects of the plan. Jason kills people behind Tim's back, Tim keys in his cop friend behind Jason's back. it builds the tension between them with a lot of hot arguments that get more and more charged.
the jealousy. there would just have to be a scene where Jason gets wildly jealous over Ulysses' complex over Tim. Ulysses tries so hard to pit himself as like, Tim's biggest adversary, his opposite. and Jason would *despise* that. sure, Jason is working with Tim, but part of the fun is that they're still enemies as they do it. i think it'd be sort of fun to have the moment where Ulysses blows Tim up be something Jason witnesses and he raises unholy hell about. because if anyone is going to kill Tim Drake, it's going to be him. and that angry possessiveness is what makes the romantic/sexual tension something neither of them can ignore anymore.
Tim deciding to put on the Red Robin suit to fight Ulysses would be where Jason just. goes full tilt possessive "he's mine i marked him that's my suit. see. mine. i said so." and Tim would push back but. what ground does he have to stand on bc he could've picked any suit with any cowl to protect his head after the blast, but he did choose Jason's. it was his own open invitation to Jason in a way. and well. they fuck nasty about it. and then Damian becomes Robin, so why not Tim keep the suit and just maybe, keep Jason in his back pocket.
and!! for the Battle for the Cowl version. man on one hand i love "Tim accepts Jason's offer to be his Robin" fics but i feel they lack a bite to them, so this is personally how i would try to pull it off, while being relatively in character.
so the biggest thing for me is, TIm agrees to be Jason's Robin not because he trusts or likes Jason, but for the same reasons he became Robin in the first place: to keep Batman stable. being Jason's Robin isn't about wanting to work with Jason, it would be Tim knowing there's no world Jason is ever going to stop and seeing Jason slowly tip over the edge of madness and well. if Tim was self-sacrificial enough to do it for Bruce and attempt to do it for Jean-Paul, he can do it for Jason.
him agreeing would i think startle Jason. like, Jason's offer was never particularly serious because he's at the point he knows Tim wants nothing to do with him. so when Tim says yes it sort of. snaps Jason out of the rage BftC puts him in. he's so startled but enticed by the thought, he willingly agrees to stipulations Tim sets, like no murder. like even if just to see where this goes, Jason jumps on the chance.
i'd really want to keep Dick and Damian as Batman and Robin, and the weird divide that would exist with Dick/Damian and Jason/Tim both running around as Batman/Robin and how off kilter that puts Gotham. like Gotham is so baffled by it, it actually makes criminals easier to handle. because they have no clue if they're getting the Batman who needs Robin to keep him in line, or the Robin who needs Batman to keep him in line. people know there's two Batmans, two Robins and no one knows quite what to do with that information. who's the "real" Batman? who's the "real" Robin? and on the personal level, the divide between Dick and Tim would be unmistakable. Dick would know what Tim's doing and try to convince him Jason is a lost cause bc well, Dick at this point *really* believes Jason is a lost fucking cause. So Dick's genuine care and concern for Tim just drives a further wedge between them.
i think there'd need to be a scene where Tim flat out asks if Jason even *wants* to be Batman. in a sort of attempt to slowly ween Jason off of being Batman, but also because i don't think Jason ever really wants to be Batman, he just wants Batman to be what his vision of justice is. and it'd be the first real heart to heart they have, discussing the legacy of the Robin and Batman mantles and how it's affected them. it'd be heated, but it'd be their first real conversation as just. Jason and Tim.
to me, i think the end goal of this AU would be Tim successfully "taming" Jason, and not in like a soft way, but in like a manipulative way, where even Jason knows that's what Tim is doing, but he just goes along with it because it's the first real human connection he's had in a while. also, i would work in Scarlet, Jason's sidekick in Batman & Robin (2009) as like. a pseudo daughter figure for them to help Jason find his humanity a bit. so it's not just Tim as Jason's rock, but also this misguided girl they'd both try to help. and well, then they ride into the sunset and all that, but still have a complicated, toxic dynamic they're both aware is unhealthy, but as balanced as it can be.
#ask game#necrotic festerings#jaytim#tim drake x jason todd#jason todd x tim drake#timjay#batcest#i love these two arcs so much#battle for the cowl *is* bad. that's why is fun fodder to try to see what you can get out of it.#and search for a hero is just. GOD it's a good fucking arc.#i think i'd be more likely to write the bftc version of these ideas but i'd write either if ppl rlly like the concepts tbh#trying to balance canon characterisation when bftc is your basis is just fun. it's like a lil challenge#jason and tim as batman and robin is such a fun thing to me.#bc you have to consider tim's motivations in it and how he views robin as a servitor of batman#also i just need more jaytim fics where they take in scarlet okay#i'd also accept duela dent#scarlet bby i miss you you were so cool as a robin parallel#truly the only thing that salvages jason in batman & robin (2009)
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Being a huge fan of 2009 era of batman comics but also a huge cassandra cain fan. it's hard out here.
#stupid fucking dc editorial#her red robin issues are so good i want to see more#love batgirl 2009 but i wish there was at least an issue or two with cass in it#since cass has always been such an important part to stephs story#i dont like battle for the cowl but i mightve if she was bigger in it#because where the fuck was she?!?#ugh#dc#dc comics#batfam#batgirl#batman#cassandra cain#delirious tumblr user slippy rants
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2009's Batman and Robin Vol.1 #1 cover by Frank Quitely and Alex Sinclair (original pencils, sketch variant, 1st printing & 2nd printing).
#Batman and Robin#Frank Quitely#Grant Morrison's Batman#batmobile#comics#DC#dc comics#batman reborn#cover#Dick Grayson#Damian Wayne#dynamic duo#2000s#cool comic art#pencils#2009#final crisis#Batman R.I.P.#art#Robin#death of batman#battle for the cowl#cool#Bruce Wayne's legacy#great duo#cover art#Batman#brat#best robin costume#cool look
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dick grayson & tim drake: siblings
nightwing (1996) annual 1 // batman: battle for the cowl (2009) #1-3 // identity crisis (2004) #7 // batman: battle for the cowl (2009) #1 // red robin (2009) #1 // batman: gotham knights (2000) #26 // nightwing (1996) #6 // nightwing (1996) #138 // detective comics (1937) #874 // nightwing (1996) #25 // nightwing (1996) #110 // nightwing (1996) #139 // blackest night: batman (2009) #1 // red robin (2009) #12 // blackest night: batman (2009) #3 // red robin (2009) #11 // quote by erica e. goode (x)
#dick grayson#tim drake#dick & tim: brothers of all time#webweaving#dc comics#GUESS WHOS BACK ON HER USUAL BS#ok but this quote kills me... it's so them#also i wanted to put soooo many other panels im so grateful that we have so much lore for their brotherhood
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batman & robin 2009 // dceased: hope at world’s end
okay so we have dick and damian to be replacement batmen when no one else could
batman: battle for the cowl // super sons #11
gun batman and gun batman 2.0 jason and tim
robin war
and then jim gordon as cop batman……. for some reason
batman (2016) #5
i think i’m gonna start a compilation of as many people wearing the batman costume as possible, bc i feel like it’s a pretty large number
#reading robin war was so weird to me for so many reasons; but the one that i stayed hung up on was cop/iron man batman#mine#ggw liveblog#battle for the cowl#batman and robin 2009#robin war#super sons 2017#dceased hope at worlds end#dceased#there’s more but i haven’t personally seen them#i think i could include terry mcginnis obv#and thomas wayne maybe?#i looked it up and apparently clark had a combination batman/superman costume at one point??
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JASON TODD MUST-READ COMIC GUIDE :]
ROBIN
Batman (1940) #408-411, #416
Detective Comics (1937) #569-574, #580 & #581
Superman (1939) Annual #11
New Teen Titans (1985) #20, #21
Batman: The Cult (1988)
Batman (1940) #422, #424, #425
Batman: A Death in The Family
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000) #43-45
RED HOOD
Under The Red Hood & Red Hood: Lost Days (I recommend reading Lost Days first, but it's up to you)
Nightwing (1996) #118-122
Green Arrow (2001) #69-72
Batman: Battle for the Cowl & Battle for the Cowl: The Underground (2009)
Task Force Z (2021)
Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing (2023)
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On the misconception of Jason attempting to take Tim's life at Titans Tower:
I've seen people be confused about this one, so I figured I'd provide some context/ analysis/ what have you, for anybody who might be interested.
Now, the incident we're talking about occurred in issue 29 of the 2003 Teen Titans book.
There is a lot that could be said about the whole issue, but in the interest of not having this post run on forever, let's just focus on the end to the actual physical altercation between Jason and Tim:
Jason warns Tim of the dangers associated with being Robin. He uses himself as a cautionary tale, making it clear that this isn't about envy; that Jason has no interest in being Robin again himself. That that's not what this is about.
Then he knocks Tim out.
Tim is unconscious for a while and Jason uses this opportunity to very dramatically put the word out there that, yep, he is indeed the real Jason Todd and he's ready to cause trouble.
When Tim comes to again, he is injured, yes, but okay overall. He isn't bleeding out on the floor, close to death. In fact, he's very much able to just sit up and have a normal conversation with people. All in all Tim is fine, and Jason has left.
And, well, that's that. At least from Tim's perspective.
The issue actually concludes with a really interesting page featuring Jason's narration:
Here we see Jason easily concede that Tim is good. No malice, no hate, no ill wishes towards him. And Tim is doing fine. Jason is shown to be in no way surprised that Tim is alive and well, back out in the field. Because he was never out to seriously injure Tim, let alone kill him.
Jason didn't want to take Tim's life at all. He had ample opportunity to do so, but he didn't. One of the reasons the whole confrontation went down the way it did, is because Jason was genuinely excited to meet Tim (see the intro narration of the issue). Aside from delivering the warning discussed above, Jason wanted to see for himself what Tim is capable of, what makes him tick. And he has no problem admitting that Tim is indeed good at what he does.
It's obviously an important incident in their lives, but Tim was never in any real danger here. Getting into brawls is nothing crazy at all in their line of work, and Tim has canonically acknowledged that he holds no ill will towards Jason over the whole thing, e.g. here in issue 8 of the 2011 Red Hood and the Outlaws book:
Summary/ conclusion: Does Jason feel guilty about things he's done to Tim in the past? Yes. Does Tim hold it against him? No. Was their fight at Titans Tower a murder attempt? Not at all.
Thanks for reading! I hope this helps clear some things up for anybody wondering (:
Bonus: Jason talking about Tim in Battle for the Cowl (2009) #2
#I'm not properly Back TM but I did say I was working on this so I figured I'd make it available#don't fillet me#Jaytim#Jason Todd#Tim Drake#meta#my stuff#Finn's Meta Posts
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do you guys have any recs for jaydick comics in canon? or any comics that have them interacting a lot really haha ;-;
Heck yes!
Some good ones with lots of J/D interaction are:
Brothers in Blood (Nightwing vol. 2 #118-#124)
Batman: Battle for the Cowl (2009)
RHATO Annual #1 (2016)
Nightwing: Year One (Nightwing #101-106, ft. Robin Jason)
Nightwing Annual 2021
Batman Vol. 1 #416 (First Meeting)
Batman and Robin Eternal #1
Grayson Vol. 1 #12
Robins (Volume 1)
Batman and Robin Vol. 1 (#4-6)
There is some interaction in Under the Hood but not too much.
Not comics, but some other forms of media are:
Wayne Family Adventures (webcomic)
Batman Ninja (animated film)
Gotham Knights (videogame)
Batman: Gotham By Gaslight (animated film)
Lego Batman: Family Matters (animated film)
Dynamic Duo (upcoming animated film)
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question for the people that have read Battle for The Cowl: The Network or are fans of Charlie Gage-Radcliffe: does this little foreshadow/storyline thing with Charlie ever get explained?
When I first read this, I was pretty confused. The Network takes place after Birds of Prey #116 and #118. So uh....what's Rory talking about?
Or am I just stupid and the panels are just implying that Charlie's just overusing her powers, which is exhausting her?
#charlie gage radcliffe#rory regan#barbara gordon#oracle#ragman#misfit#dc comics#waspdoesathought#battle for the cowl 2009#battle for the cowl: the network#batman#birds of prey#mentioned
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List of Bat Family Team-Ups and Crossovers from the Batman: Reborn Era
While to me the late 90s and early 00s produced the quintessential Bat Family, 2009-11 (plus Convergence) gives us a maturing and quickly evolving Bat Family; forced to reckon with the themselves and their pasts, to sustain a future. Crossovers had a very different tone to 10 years prior; all that shared history now boils to the surface, asking if these already complicated relationships, new and old, will stand the test of time. I also added links and bolded my favourites.
For newer readers: This is the period after Bruce Wayne's "death", which caused a reshuffling of monikers and Gotham to break into chaos. The extended Bat Family at this point includes Dick Grayson (Batman III), Damian Wayne (Robin V), Stephanie Brown (Batgirl IV), Barbara Gordon (Oracle), Helena Bertinelli (The Huntress), Dinah Lance* (Black Canary II), Tim Drake-Wayne (Red Robin), Cassandra Wayne (Black Bat), Selina Kyle (Catwoman), Kate Kane (Batwoman II), Renee Montoya (The Question II), Jason Todd* (Red Hood II) and Bruce Wayne (Batman I).
Team Up Comic Runs
Batman and Robin 2009 (#1-26)
Dick and Damian
Batgirl 2009 (#1-24)
Steph and Babs
Birds of Prey 2010 (#1-15)
Babs, Helena and Dinah
Team Up/Crossover Arcs
Battle for the Cowl (#1-3)
Dick, Babs, Tim, Damian, Helena, Selina, Squire, Cass (cameo), Dinah (cameo), and Jason (antagonist).
Batgirl Rising: Point of New Origin (Batgirl 2009 #1-3)
Steph, Babs, Cass (flashback), and Dick and Damian (cameos)
Revenge of the Red Hood (Batman and Robin 2009 #4-6)
Dick, Damian, and Jason (antagonist)
Life After Death (Batman #692-697)
Dick, Helena, Selina, Babs and Damian
Blackest Night: Batman (#1-3)
Dick, Tim, Damian and Babs
The Eighth Deadly Sin (Batman Annual #27 & Detective Comics Annual #11)
Dick, Renee and Damian
Leviathan (Streets of Gotham #5-6)
Helena, Babs, Dick and Damian
Batgirl Rising: Core Requirements (Batgirl 2009 #5-7)
Steph, Babs, Dick and Damian
Collision (Red Robin # 9, Batgirl 2009 #8 & Red Robin #10-12)
Tim, Steph, Dick, Babs, Damian, and Helena (cameo)
Blackest Knight (Batman and Robin 2009 #7-9)
Dick, Kate, Knight & Squire, and Damian
The Flood (Batgirl 2009 #9-12)
Steph, Babs, Selina (antagonist), Helena (antagonist), and cameos for Dick, Tim and Damian.
Pipeline: Chapter Two (The Question: Pipeline or Detective Comics #859-864)
Renee and Helena
The Hit List (Red Robin #13-17)
Tim, Dick, Damian, Cass (epilogue), and Steph (cameo)
Batman: Imposters (Detective Comics #867-870)
Dick, Babs, and Renee (cameo)
Black Mass (Batman and Robin 2009 #16)
Dick, Damian and Bruce
Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Batgirl
Steph, Babs and Bruce
The Great Escape (Batman #703 & Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Batman and Robin)
Dick, Damian, Tim and Bruce
Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Oracle
Babs, Bruce, and Steph (cameo)
Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Red Robin
Tim and Bruce
Planet Gotham (Batman: The Return)
Bruce, Dick, Steph, Damian, Babs and Tim
Batman: The Black Mirror (Detective Comics #771-781)
Dick, Commish Gordon, Babs and Tim
All the Rage (Detective Comics Annual 12 & Batman Annual 28)
Dick, Bruce and Renee
The Lesson: Frogs, Snails & Puppy-Dog Tails... (Batgirl #17)
Steph and Damian
Judgement on Gotham (Batman 708, Red Robin #22, Gotham City Sirens #22 & Batman #709)
Dick, Selina and Tim
The Streets Run Red (Batman and Robin 2009 #23-25)
Dick, Damian, and Jason (antagonist)
Five Minutes Fast (Batgirl 2009 #22)
Steph and Squire
Batman Incorporated: Leviathan Strikes!
Steph and Bruce (part 1) | Bruce, Dick, Damian and Tim (part 2)
Hostile Takeover (Birds of Prey #12-13)
Helena, Renee, Babs and Dinah
The Gates of Gotham (#1-5)
Dick, Cass, Damian and Tim
7 Days of Death, Part 3 (Red Robin #25)
Tim and Cass
Storybook Endings (Batman #713)
Dick and Damian, but cameos for Bruce, Tim, Steph, Babs, Helena and Selina.
Unsinkable (Batgirl 2009 #24)
Steph and Babs, cute cameos for Damian and Cass
new reader note: Flashpoint ends Post Crisis continuity here but the 2015 Convergence event revisits this continuity for one last time, giving us a few more complete endings.
Father and Sons (Convergence: Batman and Robin)
Bruce, Damian and Jason
The Love Song of Stephanie Brown (Convergence: Batgirl)
Steph, Cass and Tim
Just One More Thing… (Convergence: The Question)
Renee, Helena and Kate
Birds of Rage (Convergence: Nightwing/Oracle)
Dick, Babs and Dinah
#batman reborn#batman#bat family#dc comics#batfam#comics#dick grayson#damian wayne#stephanie brown#barbara gordon#helena bertinelli#dinah lance#tim drake#cassandra cain#kate kane#renee montoya#jason todd#bruce wayne
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Do you know if you’ve ever done a post that dismantles the misconception that Dick “stole” Robin away from Tim to give it to Damian? I’ve seen posts debunking a lot of stuff on your poll but i have a hard time trying to find ones that succinctly tear that one apart lol
I've got you
Damian's intro to being Robin is told 2 ways, one in pre new 52 continuity, in battle for the cowl, and the other in post new 52 continuity, in secret origins 4.
in battle for the cowl, Damian starts in his black and white league of shadows uniform. Then, he's shot by Batman!Jason and Dick has some "i'm responsible for this child" moment, but does not make him Robin. We see Damian pretty much right after he regains consciousness:
Alfred tells him to earn his keep and gives him the Robin outfit, and next thing we see he's Robin
That's Battle for the Cowl, the pre-new 52 story (and also aside: first thing Damian does as Robin, what Alfred is setting him up to do, is to save Tim's life with squire (link))
Secret Origins 4 is for the broader part my favorite (I do like Damian saving Tim's life in Battle for the cowl tho), and I think it's way mroe focused on Damian's character.
We start, we see he's trying to establish a connection to his father
and he's clearly resentful about not having a connection to his dad
Alfred's worried Damian's going too far
So Alfred has Dick bring Damian back to the Batcave and says he found something
Dick is clearly in on it in that he knows it is going on, but it is framed as Alfred's idea, with him forging the letter, him being the one reaching out to Damian and worried he's going too far and contacting Dick (and dick saying he doesn't know much about Damian beforehand in this comic and Alfred explains), and Alfred being the one who seemed to have made the suit, since Dick said he liked it and alfred says dialogue implying it was his design decision (never wise to stray too far from perfection")
anyway the implication is that Alfred made Damian Robin to try to give him a connection to his father, because Damian was inconsolable (but... in the assassin way not the crying way :P)
even in Red Robin #1, which I assume most people (who read comics :P) are referencing for Dick 'giving' Damian Robin, all Tim says is how can you let Dick w
So it might be reasonable for the reader to assume here that Dick made Damian Robin.. but since he didn't, Tim is just asking how he can let him wear it. I have a post fully breaking down this scene here (link)
#pokemonisbeast1999#dc comics#damian wayne#robin#tim drake#alfred pennyworth#dick grayson#batfam#secret origins#battle for the cowl#2009 era batfam stuff
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All right, I'm actually trying to tally this up: what are the actual storylines people can think of that are about Dick and Jason's relationship that feature them on page together? Ones where it's basically just them up against each other or working together, rather than intermixed with a lot of other family (so for instance, I'm not counting things like Tom King's scene announcing Bruce and Selina are engaged, or Batburger).
My immediate round up off the top of my head and a quick scan of appearances consists of:
Nightwing Year One
Jason's 1980s NTT appearances
EDIT: Batman #416
Brothers in Blood - Nightwing #118-122
Climax of Battle for the Cowl
Batman & Robin 2009 #4-6 and #23-25
Red Hood and the Outlaws Annual #2 2017
Blood Brothers - Nightwing Annual 2021
Maybe Joker War? But that's got Babs and Tim around as well
#that's just...really scanty#the thing is they very rarely work together as a team#they fight each other a little more often#but there is not a lot to base their relationship off!
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Hello there! I was wondering if you could help me with some comic recs. I've been looking to read the Batman's-lost-in-the-time-stream stories specifically the ones where Tim tracks down evidence of Bruce not being dead (blowing up the LoA and losing his spleen in the process etc), but I find it tricky to pin down the exact comic names and numbers. I figured asking was worth a shot since you seem to know your way around the various continuities. Thank you! 💙
Hi! I will freely admit that I had to Google a lot of this, because I haven't read most of those comics since they originally came out and my memory is fuzzy, but I do think I can at least point you in the right direction. The majority of what you're looking for re: Tim is going to be in Red Robin, but a lot of this storyline spilled over kind of everywhere and crosses into several smaller event storylines, but as best as I can remember/find: (Note: These are all comics from around 2008-2010, so when you go looking for them, keep them separate from a lot of the current ongoings that have reached these numbers again. XD)
Bruce "dies" in the Final Crisis mini-series
Portions of that story also spill over into Batman R.I.P. 2008 (Batman vol. 1 issues #676–681). For memory, it's a separate story from the fight with Darkseid that "killed" Bruce, but aspects of it are intertwined with that main story, so feel free to skim if you want.
"Nightwing: The Great Leap" (vol. 2, issues #147-153) is part of the Batman R.I.P. storyline that will lead into Last Rites and Battle for the Cowl
The final issues of the Robin vol. 2 series, issues #175-183, are also part of the lead-up to the Last Rites storyline (and then part of the main storyline itself)
Last Rites is spread out across Batman #682-685, Detective Comics #851-852, Nightwing #151-153, Robin #183
Okay, for Battle for the Cowl storyline, there's a lot going on, but you can read the three issue mini series (Battle for the Cowl #1-3) and then kind of pick-and-choose what you want from the tie-in oneshots. I'm not sure how important most of them are, if you're just here for main Batfam drama, but the DC fandom wiki has a good list of them all.
This leads us into the Batman Reborn storyline, which is Dick as Batman and Damian as Robin and there's a lot of comics going on at this time that are dealing with the general fallout but not necessarily specifically about Bruce being lost in time. But I really liked this era, so of course I'd recommend reading it anyway.
Red Robin is where you're going to find the "Tim really looks like he's having a mental breakdown and goes off to find Bruce" content that you're looking for, those issues are the prime material for it, just that there's context spilling everywhere first before you get to them.
Batman and Robin from 2009 is Dick and Damian's side of everything that was going on--they do have other stuff they have to deal with, they're fighting against all the usual cases in Gotham popping up, but the "Bruce is lost in time" story does have a lot of context here as well, that Dick actually is doing research into this as well.
Early on in both of the above two comic runs (within about six issues or so) was an event called Blackest Night where all the dead came back to life and it's mostly about that, but the Batman tie in issues had Tim coming back to Gotham and the issue was raised of, "wait, why does Bruce's corpse look all wrong?" and people start to believe that Bruce is alive. I'd say read the two Batman tie-in issues for sure and at least skim the main Blackest Night #1-8 for anything Bat-related.
Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne #1-6 is Bruce's side of his "death" and eventual return.
Bruce Wayne: The Road Home is the follow-up/aftermath of that and is spread out across several oneshots and the order is generally: Batman #703 (prelude) --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Batman and Robin #1 --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Red Robin #1 --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Outsiders #1 --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Batgirl #1 --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Catwoman #1 --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Commissioner Gordon #1 --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Oracle #1 --> Bruce Wayne: The Road Home: Ra's al Ghul #1 --> Batman: The Return #1 (These are NOT issue #1 of their given series, these are all separate oneshots--aside from the Batman #703 prelude, of course.)
@fantastic-nonsense also has a really great context-laden post here about the storyline of them searching for Bruce and is very helpful to understand all the moving parts! If I missed anything major, hopefully she or someone else can step in and give us issue numbers. I know that's a lot of comics to throw at you, but it kind of goes to show that this is how some of the Bat-storylines used to have more of this kind of stuff, where they had big, sprawling events and everything kind of spilled over onto everything else. I don't miss having to buy a zillion issues to keep up with a storyline taking over my favorite book, but I do miss the interconnectedness of stuff like this, when it worked, it created storylines that genuinely were game-changing in the Batman franchise. Hopefully, this helps and if nothing else you can know that you inspired me to go pull out some of these runs and reread them to refresh my memory. (Even if I'm still mortal enemies with Grant Morrison, they wrote a lot of the comics that were at the height of my interest in DC. XD)
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