#baddel

[butch-bakugo]

Oh my God a fucking " anti-transandrophobia truther" perisex fuck wrote word for word, in a massive fucking post " I wonder if intersex people know being Intersex affects your gender" (NO SHIT???)

And!

" I'm pretty sure all the afab/cafab (coercive meaning ya know ... GENITAL MUTILATION OF INTERSEX BABIES FORCING THEM INTO THE AFAB IDENTITY. The whole camab/cafab thing was stolen from the intersex community.) intersex people who claim the transfem title don't actually have transfem experiences"(regardless of the kind of the type of intersexuality they are?? You are just outting yourself as someone totally fucking blind to actual intersex experiences.)and! " They need their own term because they don't 'fit'". They tried to dress up the offensive bigoted nonsense they just spewed by trying to make it sound like they had our best interests at heart and "shouldn't be forced into using perisex language".... You are litterally trying to push intersex people you don't like out of our terminology to other them .... This literally reeks of literal terf rhetoric " most intersex lean one way and therefore shove them under that label" like...

Ur both intersexist freaks and bigots just in different ways. Imagine trying to claim you care about intersex people then try to determine our labels for us and push us in the way you think we should go regardless of our actual fucking lived experiences because you don't like sharing the transfem community with people who've experienced both transmysogny and transmascphobia. Not to even mention the fact the last time people tried to make a term to talk about their experiences, you've not shut up about it in years and called it a mens rights movement to try and silence an entire fucking portion of the trans community so you don't have to care about them. You literally fucking said " trans men experience both transphobia and mysogny but not at the same time (we do????) but trans women do" ok and ur blind to Transmasc issues because you think that nonsense and we are the same as cis men. Ur blind to our issues in the way you accuse us of being blind to your issues but only expect us to shut up and listen.

Anyway, denying that trans men can't face their own issues while also ignoring any trans man who disagrees with you and then attempting to delegitimize all intersex people who look you dead in the face in the transfem and Transmasc playing fields and tell you ur wrong...

Bro just say you hate Transmascs and anyone who might be slightly aligned with them and go home you intersexist piece of shit.

Also the whole " stop calling anti-transandrophobia truthers baddels! That's something specific"

My brother in CHRIST, THEY ARE LITTERALLY UNIRONICALLY IN THE USERNAMES OF THE PEOPLE YOU REBLOG FROM. BULLSHIT.

Anyway the fact y'all are all fucking white trans women and CONSTANTLY bring up black and indigenous people's experiences with gender while also being unironic baddels aka a horrifically abusive to trans men (including rape) and racist ASF movement within your community tells me everything i need to know as a native american two spirit intersex person with no "lean" whose experienced transmysogny and transandrophobia.

This is why they don't trust you motherfuckers, you got no class, just entitlement and weak ass attempts at silencing people you already hate and a weird trauma fetish for black and indigenous people. There is over lap between the transfem experiences and bipoc experiences but there is also an overlap between Transmasc and bipoc experiences, nonbinary and bipoc, like almost everyone can relate to our shit, ur not special 😭 leave us alone and don't use our oppression to try and legitimize your fundamentally transphobic views.

[corviddusk]

Question do you call yourself a baeddel as a slur reclaiming or do you have anti-transmasculine/transmed/etc views? I am personally not transmasculine but I avoid people who associate with the baeddelism (discourse stance) community, you interacted with one of my posts and I just wanted to be sure you were a safe person for all trans people to be around.

For me it's quite complicated I'll preface it with this: It is slur reclamation and I interact with and engage with writing and posts from others who are often labeled it- including those who I sometimes take issues with. I do not see myself as anti-transmasc and I care a lot about transmasculine people.

I think transandrophobia as defined by Genderkoolaid is a faulty theory and both ignores some forms of oppression and fails to understand more accurately where the cruelty towards transmascs and men is coming from. I don't like saying it's not real as transmasc specific oppression is 100% real and there is a lot of transandrophobia discussion that is genuinely helpful and should be drawn from.

I however have started using the term Transemasculation and have been trying to better define the concepts. I have an article called Transandrophobia Vs. Transemasculation but it is also important I note I did make a glaring error in that article by steamrolling the concept of "punishment for masculinization" which I am now working on an entire article for as I feel not only did I ignore something due to my own issues and biases, I also missed an opportunity to further outline how insidious the oppression against transmascs is.

More extensive explanation under the cut since I'm very wordy already

Bæddel is a term I have only ever called myself after someone on bluesky added me to a supposed list of them. Specifically this is someone who I used to be mutuals with on another account on Twitter before I left a cult of personality I was in that they were I'm the orbit of. No I am not joking when I call this thing a cult, it's how I was under the control of my abusive ex-mentor. This ex-mentor goes hard against supposed Baeddels and spreads misinformation about them. This has been retaliatory aggression and violence as one woman in a friend group broke up with her. She has since stalked and slandered this poor woman for a year. She was called out as a dangerous predator by a friend of this woman and that is why she turned her sights against these people.

By getting out and now helping people to whatever extent I can take on the label of Bæddel is not only reclamation as an intersex transfem but also reclamation for the trauma and pain of my main abuser in my college years. This is a deeply personal thing for me.

Modern day "Bæddels" are by and large transfeminists who are erroneously labeled as anti-transmasc when in actuality they are just against the faulty concept of misandry. There is no such thing as misandry and trans men are not oppressed for being men. Trans men are oppressed for being transgender/transsexual. A lot of people have gone hard against a wonderful theorist, Talia Bhatt, because she has a book coming out called "Trans Rad Fem" in actuality she has no ties in beliefs to those of TERFs and SWERFs her work is radically liberating to trans women and fems, and is radical for transfeminism. Much like some people here will label themselves radically inclusive this is not about holding similarities to TE"RF"s or SWE"RF"s as those people are not feminists nor are they particularly radical. They're bigots and nothing more. Their ideology is based on further cementing oppression against women.

I do however take issue with some of the behavior of some individuals labeled Bæddels (to be clear it is a slur and if you call someone that you're using a slur against them. Stop fucking doing that if any of you reading are). I hate the term "theyfab" with a passion and no matter what see is as transphobic and a slur. It's used primarily by cis people to attack enbies and pretending it's this profound transfeminist term is fucking disgusting. I hate anyone who dares to say "cuntboy" or, "zippertits" those horrendous sexualizing slurs were used against me during the decade I identified as a trans man. They're deeply fetishistic and reduce people to a porn category.

I am however okay with the term transandrobro and birthday boy.

Take that all as you will.

[kagemorijin]

regardless if you do or don't believe in the concept; saying vile cracked out shit about "transandrophobia truthers" (you know; a group of majority trans people) is transphobic lol

[fuck-it-icons]

Can't believe I have to say this in 2025 but if you think all Transmen have male privilege, don't face mysogny, don't have independent issues not faced by the rest of the community or otherwise don't believe in transandrophobia or literally fucking identify as a transradfem or baddel

Get the ever loving fuck off my blog.

[gaogaigoatgrrl]

how do you pronounce "baeddel" anyway. "baddel"? "bay-del"? "bee-del"? something else? is it even "ae" or is it "æ"?

[creaturebeeing]

one thing that really bothers me in the conversations about transandrophobia is how people imply that infantilization isn't a Big Deal.

The posts I've seen argue that being infantilized just hurts feelings and trans men/mascs just have to get thicker skin.

This is so incredibly hurtful for so many reasons. I want to think more on it and add to this post later but I just wanted to get it out there that the idea that infantilization is just hurt feelings and doesn't lead to loss of body autonomy and rights makes me want to scream

[preciousangelyu]

@faithfulservantoftheking

Beaming over meeting up with his friend it didn't take long for the canine to nuzzling their cheeks together to show how happy goofy was to see the human again "ayuck! it been so long but it so swell to see you doing well yuu"

-Yu grinned at Goofy. It was nice to see the other again, with everything that had been going on, he had been worried that the knight might have gotten hurt, or worse.

-"I didn't mean too lose track of everything. I am just glad to see you now," Yu admitted, smiled still on his face. "How have you been? I am sure you have been busy."

[wolfgirliosef]

things i would show stalin if she was still alive today:

rubix cube

baddelism

(lenin is alive in this scenario as well) lenins video essay channel

letterboxd

google translate

prostate orgasm

all the covers of suliko in other langauges

all the translations of her works

toki pona

[milf--adjacent]

Something that convinced me that transmysoginy exists more than any other argument was how immediate and violent the reaction from TMEs and adjacent folks was. As soon as you bring up the very idea of queer groups having power dynamics it's a flood of "You're intersexist" "You're transandrophobic" "You have no idea what's going on" "you hate gnc people", etc. etc. without ever trying to debunk the argument, and often resorting to character assassinations.

To 'debunk' the argument would mean they would have to address it which means facing their possibly hidden biases upon which they build their own narrative of superiority. They wanna say "you're a bunch of baddel bigot transfem supremacists" when in reality we're chipping away at their own supremacist values simply by mentioning that we are whole people who are consistently forgotten and undervalued by queer communities at large. They think we "want on top" when all we want is an end to veiled hate and dismissal of our thoughts, feelings, and experiences because we were forced to walk through life with a big 'M' on our records and somehow that means we lived the good life until we started "pretending" to be women. All we want is to be considered and included.

Like there was this gushing outporing of support for that post that told trans women to stay alive then told trans men to stay alive, and a bunch of TME people were like "I've never heard it phrased for trans men before!" and while I can respect their experience 1. We curate our own experiences here, so maybe follow some more positive trans men and you'll see plenty of transmasc positivity (I see plenty and I'm not even looking for it!) and 2. Which part of the community has a long, lingering, often unreported suicide issue? Which types of trans people are ostracized from the groups and communities that are supposed to help them and care for them? Which group of trans people makes up the bulk of the trans suicide stats?

Trans women are dying of lonliness and despair every day, and some TME people want to turn it into a "both sides" issue of "balance" and "fairness." I think one side lacks proper balance and fairness since one side has entire stores and clothing lines dedicated to their needs, but when I want a bra or shoes in my size, I have to wade through listings labeled "CROSSDRESSER SISSY BOTTOM TRANSEXUAL CLOTHING FOR MEN" to find something. I go to the queer support group and I am the only transfem in the room and the whole organization is run by TME people. I go to pride and there's so much fanfare for the drag queens who live their lives as gay men and only adopt womanhood as a performance, but even for the fucking TRANS MARCH, only one transfem is given space to speak on stage, and she is quickly bustled from the stage so a TME DJ can spin a super mid remix of I Feel Love (should have just played the extended dance mix for fucks sake) and yet another drag queen can perform.

It's not just me noticing these things, and many transfems aren't half as brave as me because of histories of abuse and neglect.

To even validate the argument that transfems are overlooked and neglected would be to address one's role in making that happen so consistently, so it's easier for that type of TME person to cast individual trans women as some sort of monster than to address their own internalized transmisogyny. No one likes to be told they're hurting someone, but no one goes full hater as quickly as a white queer person who is told their lack of empathy empowers transmisogyny.

[sapphic-boy]

Since apparently someone screenshotted something I said about baeddels, I just wanted to let my followers know all the posts I've made or reblogged about that topic were old and since then I've found out that baddelism as an ideaology was kinda just one friend group and their ideaology basically died out and now the word is used a lot just to disparage transfems and isn't something that people should be calling anybody

Also let it be known that if I hate someone who happens to be transfem and is transandrophobic, my issue with them is solely that they're transandrophobic, I have zero issues with transfems and as a transmasc it would be incredibly shitty of me to hate people in my own community, transmascs and transfems and transnuetrals and transdrogynes and every other trans person needs to stick together for the good of the whole trans community

[plaidos]

come the hell on they keep listing us together as baddels or whatever im surely less stupid by now

[doberbutts]

Maybe it's my years in the biphobia trenches speaking, but is it just me or is a lot of "baddel" stuff just blatantly, word-for-word recycled biphobia?? I swear I'm getting deja vu.

Why do you think I've been refusing to let that line budge for so long over here?

Like. Ignoring that I have bi, and pan, and ace, and butch, and nonbinary friends. I've seen this play out with people swapping the identity but not the logic or wording over and over again. I know this trick and it's a bad one.

And I have said from the start one day it will be us. One day I will want the allies who've been through it once before already. It's all recycled and repackaged garbage. And when it's not our turn anymore it'll be someone else.

[janederscore]

ok im sorry but its absoloutely hysterical how everyone is perfectluy content to use baddel as a slur casually with the flimsiest justifications imaginable But if you ever ever point out that it is in fact a slur every dipshit in a 567 mile radius is lockedf and loaded to tell you just how much it isnt and Actually youre an idiot for thinking so

[t4tails]

trans women are still amab they still use amab privlege to oppress transmascs, transfems do not have oppression like transmascs u see transfems oppressing transmascs and using there prilvlege and deny they have it? baddel FREAK

idgaf lol

[velvetvexations]

I’m not familiar with the term baddel (?) beyond a lot of threads discussing why it’s a transmisognistic conspiracy theory

it's a medieval word for intersex people that a clique of trans women on Tumblr used to label themselves while pushing radfem bullshit until eventually a sex abuse scandal broke them up

now "baeddel" is an insulting term for transradfems, many of whom actively still identify themselves as baeddels

[rjalker]

hey so what's up with people pretending baeddels never exist and don't exist right now, as though there hasn't been a recent surge of people literally proudly putting baddel and variations of in their name the way TERFs do with "rad" and "womb"? and downplaying the whole thing as "niche tumblr ideology" like it wasn't a real cult with real world consequences for all of its victims?