#bæddel

[clowncary]

transandrophobia draws blood.

Azriel Pierce is a afro-latino transmascfem kafin who goes by they/them. Kafin is a gender label that does not fit into the binary, nonbinary, abinary or others and therefore can only be described by one’s self or personality.

the label of transandrophobia.

transandrophobia, the result of trans + androphobia, is broadly known as the fear of masculinity and manhood present in genderqueer people (masculine nbys, masculine intersex people, butches/studs/dykes/masculine women, trans men, transmascs). it was first described by a trans man of color named Saint in 2017.

i tend to include masc women/butches/dykes/studs in this because transandrophobia is known to not be used as an opposite to transmisogyny or a gender specific term for just men. it is quite literally a form of oppression against masculinity and manhood that is not cis, het or non-queer, and inherently includes masculine women because TERFism often uses radical feminism to attack queerness— often denying masc women their womanhood and trying to separate it from their identity and presentation to imply they’re “secretly men”.

we have now established that these identities are inherently affected by transandrophobia:

masculine nbys

masculine women

butches/studs/dykes

transmascs

trans men

masculine intersex people

so transandrophobia can be experienced based on the culutral views of masculinity or suppression of trans manhood for the recreation of cis womanhood in men. this can include corrective rape and sexual assault, transandrophobic medical abuse and mistreatment of transmasc bodies, the refusal to provide life-saving testosterone when eligible, social settings being hostile to queermasculine people, butches of any kind being refused lesbianism or harassment in bathrooms for appearance, and so on.

this statistic from The Trevor Project’s 2023 U.S. National Survey on the Mental Health of LGBTQ Young People, revealing that transmascs/trans men and nonbinary people (followed by those gender questioning) are more likely to suffer from forced sexual contact.

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/research-briefs/sexual-violence-and-suicide-risk-among-lgbtq-young-people/

what comprises transandrophobia is androphobia and sexism.

all these people will experience sexism in unique ways that cannot be called transmisogyny due to the nature of attacking their masculinity first and foremost, then their assigned sex next. when said masculinity is attacked, TERFs will use that to deny them the right to it on the basis of their sex traits. an intersex man can’t be a man because they happen to have a body that is not perisex, therefore, the limits to their manhood is applied by reducing them to an object or a “disorder”. alongside intersexism, that is transandrophobia.

androphobia is the fear of manhood and the patriarchy, and when transmasculine individuals experience this, it becomes the fear of queerness that develops into “freeform masculinity”, bridging away from the commonly seen toxic and patriarchal masculinity and into it’s own category — something of a “cenntriarchal” form (cenn- from “cennend”, meaning parent).

the cenntriarchy does not refer to a specific gender or group as the head of a family, nor does it imply that those in the authority are all of one gender. instead, it is used to describe when those of any authority are of any gender and therefore would create societies that are diverse enough to allow men, women, nbys, thirds, and others to be centered at the foundation rather than behind women/men. this would challenge the ideas of what masculinity, femininity, and androgyny are supposed to look like or how they act in society because it features different cultures and religions.there is the belief that trans men and transmascs have the ability to uphold patriarchal forms of masculinity the moment they are men, which is a false statement created to “pin the patriarchy on the mule”. in this world, a hybrid is not considered to be as good as a horse — even if that horse is not purebred. cis masculinity will always be more valuable than trans masculinity and trans men cannot benefit from a concept that believes them to only be their sex traits and never their self. there is only one way masculinity can survive in queer spaces without the dominance of manhood, and that is the cenntriarchy allowing the possibility for everyone to contribute as the authority over their own rights regardless of gender.

standing by transmasculinity.

a common pushback against transandrophobia seems to be the idea that trans men are just transitioning towards cis manhood, as if they’re not men yet. they aren’t women, but they aren’t men either, so they stay in the gray zone of being defined by their agab or their sex traits.

the isolation of manhood from transness is a tactic used to correctly gender trans men without having to acknowledge their gender as being related to trans manhood, even if that fear is towards those who uphold the patriarchy — which trans men, by identity, do not fit in the patriarchy. when trans men and cis men are perceived as the same type of manhood, the assumption becomes that trans men are of the patriarchal system instead of being completely outside of it.

Saint has stated that “transandrophobia is the way that the fear of men impacts the material reality and mental/physical health of transgender men.” he has said that transandrophobia is not simply when a transmasculine person experiences misogyny or sexism, given that everyone experiences it, but that it is when the queermasculine identity is faced with trouble, hardship, oppression, or hatred because of said relation of manhood.

to put it simply, the irrational fear and subsequent hatred of transmasculinity and trans manhood. that is a broad definition of transandrophobia amongst all others.no one hates cis men for being men, it is hate of their ability to use their cis status and patriarchal power. cis manhood is preferred, actually, it is widely accepted, it is “natural”.. trans men on the other hand don’t have those privleges, and are hated for being failed cis men and confused women, who are then hated for being related to cis men by being men incorrectly.

even being in proximity to transmasculinity has comments like “kill all men”, and “why would you want to be a man?” thrown your way or in the direction you walk towards.

those who are interested in separating the transmasc community into halves of cliques and discrediting POC in the creation of transandrophobia terminology and discussion will also forget that many of the ones speaking about transmasc oppression are of color. they whitewash our terms, then our community.

https://www.tumblr.com/killjoycatlady/726305694582751232/doberbutts-is-a-black-trans-man-who-has-spoken?source=share

most known critics of transandrophobia are the most exclusionary radical-leaning trans queers who have fallen to TIRFism and Baeddelism.

those who engage in Baeddelism/TIRFism also have a habit of ignoring transmasc struggles, or claiming that our invisibility is easier to handle. this is not the case, given that transmascs have the highest suicide rates since last year.

to me, Baeddelism/TIRFism isn’t protecting trans women, trans men, nonbinary, and other queers from harm but actively allowing it to fester through discourse and strife. there is no protection for us and there is no language for us to use in order to convey our pain that isn’t refused or called a “copy” of transmisogyny to indicate that men are oppressed.

the denial of transandrophobia does not directly cause these deaths, this suffering, but it restricts the way we can communicate how transmascs are dealing with this pain of being left out of our own communities, our identities, our literature, our ability to be seen.

we do not want hypervisibility, we want help surviving.

[2cutte2bcis]

[chaoticbimbo]

third wave bæddels jihad against the incel mindset not against testosterone

[oldenglishtextposts]

ne beþearf locian wæpenwifestran? afeoht þin eagan!

[Image ID: a black and white typography edit that reads "don't want to see transsexuality? pluck out your eyes!" in the right bottom corner is a medical model of teeth. between the teeth is a single eyeball. the entire image is textured to look aged and photocopied. /End ID]

inspired by matthew 5:29

click for quality (instagram) (my shop) (as a print) (as a shirt)

[gaylilrat]

kinda sucks that bæddel is like, a discourse term now (idk how it's like here on tumblr but back on twitter it's currently a rereclaimed reslurred reclaimed slur) because it's such a fun idea on paper, I want to reclaim the slur that was used for people like me on this island 1000 odd years ago, a direct enforcement of the historical precedent, an establishment that we are and always were, so on

[velvetvexations]

Since I'm not transfem, I prefer to present this as a question, sparked by observations about many transradfems.

Do you think bæddel-adjacent / TIRF / transradfeminist people kind of sweep under the rug all the parts of transmisogyny where perceived manhood/masculinity and hypermasculinization are weaponized against transfems?

Like, so much focus on the femininity/womanhood part, but like... Radio silence if anyone brings up how radfem views of men or masculinity can and will harm transfems in basically any part of their transitions due to every negative stereotype of men being thrown at them 10-fold?

And that bringing up the latter would be treated as if it's misgendering.

Just like transmascs being treated as deviant women being talked about gets treated like we're misgendering ourselves, coming from the same people...

Absolutely. Transradfems treat gender identity like hard laws-of-physics reality and completely forget that our categorizations of ourselves are still relatively arbitrary just the same as assigning gender based on sex. If someone hates trans women because they see us as men, transradfems see that as hating women - which they should, of course, because it is literally that, but the problem is taken to be seeing us as men and seeing us as men alone. It's just the miscatagorization. The irrationality of the hatred in and of itself is not questioned, because, you know, rather choose a bear and all. They can't understand how their own attitudes towards men reinforce the paranoia and scrutiny over the possibility of male infiltrators.

It makes me wonder if part of the reason they minimize TERF harm towards transmascs as a weird form of jealousy. I don't want to get too dark, Velvet Nation, but my family (not me personally) has a history with bad things happening to one person and that being taken by someone else as a sign of favor. I can imagine someone being irrationally upset by the fact that people who are born with the gift of acceptance as a female not only waste it but protest against it, and then if they detransition are seemingly (all TERF benevolence is a lie) welcomed with open loving arms in a way that's unobtainable for them when they go from M to F.

[st-dionysus]

The "Evil Bad Bæddel" and "Gross Transandrophobia-Truther" are actually making out sloppy style in real life.

People only behave this deranged online.

In real life me and the girls are talking about our over lapping issues, ways we can help each other, and how to bridge gaps in out communities, inbetween going to problamtic T4T BDSM play parties.

There is no mass Transmasc Vs Transfem conspiracy, you idiots. We are lovers. We are friends. We are trans people dealing with a complicated issues and terrifying everyday bigotry from a thousand different sources and at the end of the day it's so important that we are able to look towards each other for comfort and strength.

[noneedtofearorhope]

what did the transfem metalhead wear to the show?

her bæddel jacket

[thomas-flynn]

Male -> gay -> trans woman -> transbian -> bi lesbian -> transfem -> "gay" -> bæddel/tma/transfem separatist -> nonbinary transfem -> "tranny faggot" -> nonbinary -> "faggot" -> detrans "kink" -> genderfluid -> gay -> femboy -> guy/dude -> mtftm -> amab transmasc

Pipeline where the common theme is being gay for cock but wanting to be in afab spaces (gender is fake, why do we even have them?)

[gremlingirlsmell]

bæddel m

a transfem who needs so so so much love

[clowncary]

Apparently we need a refresher...

This is an archive (not by me) for the "Hot Takes" from Baeddels. If anyone even regurgitates these beliefs, they are alongside one of the dangers to queer community (transphobia, exorsexism, anti-trans and queer legislation, misgendering, restrictive gender binaries, IGM, etc).

thank you to @/nothorses for these posts here ... https://www.tumblr.com/nothorses/704122852220223488?source=share and https://medium.com/@greyson.not.horses/when-b%C3%A6ddels-took-them-d75d9e1688d6

Baeddel Believers agree that:

- All manhood is oppressive.

- Gender can be a choice.

- One’s gender has ethical consequences.

- Being a man is ethically bad, including transition to manhood.

- Being a woman is ethically good, including transition to womanhood.

- Trans men male privilege.

- Trans men have it easy regarding passing, go “stealth”, and benefit from male privilege due to AGAB.

- Trans men are misogynistic and transmisogynistic, and must be held accountable.

"...the term “Baeddel” itself is likely more applicable- if not exclusively applicable- to intersex people, rather than trans women. Making their reclamation of it as a “transmisogynistic slur”"

Let's Talk About Bæddels: A Comprehensive Retrospective. Intersex People, paragraph one.

Many baeddels will excuse this intersexisms, some using their intersexness as an excuse.

when you see a baeddel in YOUR COMMUNITY, you stand the fuck up and say something. I want to hear your voice. YOU shouldn't sit down and shut up, I want to hear you scream. This is not fearmongering, this is talking about a form of radical feminism and lesbian separatism that have been active since the 2010s and still present, with spotted activity, in 2024.

[2cutte2bcis]

I wanna make one thing crystal fucking clear: I’m an anarcha-bæddelist and no transmisogynist asshole (cis or trans) can stop me!

🏴🏳️‍⚧️

[weepingwitch]

love those posts whining about "tme/tma" and "transfem/trans femme" etc, and the constant linguistic goal post moving to keep trans women from being able to name and talk about ourselves. one of the initial uses of "bæddel" a decade ago was as a word to refer to this grouping of people!

[littlespaceinsurrection]

I wrote a wikipedia article on "bæddel" and "bædling"! after extensive review of all available scholarship, i conclude i have no fucking idea what they mean but i think bædling has a higher chance of referring to the kind of person we would now call transfemmes

(in case you're wondering why theres no citations, thats the lede and you dont need citations there)

[mulherergativa]

'bad' being from 'bæddel' makes me feel like in 2300 English the word 'tra' from 'tranny' would be used in a similar manner

[trans-lunarinjection]

ppl on this site really love making extremely vague posts that could be about any intracommunity issues like racism in queer communities or transmisogyny but when you look in the tags the post is actually about how those mean tranny bæddels are being so so rude to men for thinking man-hatred is a real axis of oppression that should be held above others.