#aos jim/carol

[xspuhurax]

You’re no one.

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[chekovs-merkin]

giving aos kirk a kid is cute and poignant. giving tos kirk a kid makes me want to call cps

[woman-of-many-fandoms]

So this is something else that's been in my mind. Assuming AOS Kirk got Carol pregnant (I know her and McCoy had better chemistry, bit if) how would AOS Kirk handle it? He already has a butt load of daddy issues and I think he wouldn't like the thought of his kid growing up without a father like he did. I can honestly see him trying to make it work. I know TOS Carol told TOS Kirk to stay away but I think she saw he wouldn't be happy and how hard TOS Kirk worked to make captain which AOS Kirk didn't. AOS Kirk may want to try.

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Thinking. Abt this but with Bones. Like. Post-Tholian Web? Post-Mirror Mirror?

For AOS, could be after Into Darkness and/or Beyond.

A Bones who's just. So anxious. So stressed. So overwhelmed that it starts taking a toll on his health. Maybe he doesn't even realise - or maybe he does and tries his best to push through it until it knocks him on his ass. Kind of in the vein of "You don't actually know how tired you are until you stop. And then you just physically cannot start again." It becomes his new baseline, a problem that just brews and storms in the distance.

And he just carries on. And keeps going and going and going until one day he realises that 'Oh fuck, I'm not okay' and has about 5 seconds of warning before he straight up collapses, doesn't matter if it's on the bridge, in the madbay, on a planet - he's going down. (Maybe a repeat of Tholian Web where he just straight up faints into Spock's arms? Full whammy, why not)

Maybe it's a high-tension situation getting resolved that does it. The pure relief of it reminds him of how tired he is. How tired he's been for a while. His body sees that momentary rest and goes "More of that, please. And I'm not asking."

And he's so rendered by it that he doesn't grumble about being coddled like he normally would when he wakes up. He knows not to fuck with the medbay staff - they're just as firm as he is on recovery, and that's not by accident - and he knows that Spock and Kirk will be hovering, because they see any problem as something they, too, should shoulder the burden of.

...And because they're some of the most protective people in the damned universe. And that goes for pretty much all the people on board the Enterprise.

In some scenarios, it's just a case of letting his body and mind rest properly. In others, there's a lot more recovery involved than anyone initially expects. Luckily for him, he has a found family who are determined to be there with him at every step. It just takes a couple reminders, every once in a while.

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[merrysithmas]

since carol marcus essentially invents the star trek version of the A Bomb i'm gonna need her to have the type of concerning brilliance that just cannot be confined, be maddening, enviable, conflicted, morally ambiguous, and not entirely ethical send post

[captainofthestrangestship]

Look I love emo McCoy who blows up his life because of the things that happen in STID or in Beyond as much as the next guy but what about an aos!McCoy who doesn’t do that and actually likes being on the Enterprise?

So the events of Beyond happen slightly differently so that both Jim and Spock both decide to leave the Enterprise, ie for this they have to be way more emotionally closed off than they actually are at the end of the movie. Meaning after they go through the hours of debriefing necessary after Beyond, Jim tells Spock that he’s accepted the role of vice admiral on Yorktown, saying he’ll recommend Spock for the Captaincy. Spock stands there for a second, like this is super awkward, I have decided that my presence is more requited on New Vulcan and I am continuing Ambassador Spock’s work.

They would stand there in an uncomfortable silence neither willing to talk through this and if its even a good idea or not and then they both nod at each other, “this was a great discussion, good luck on New Vulcan” “I wish your endeavour as Vice Admiral is fulfilling” and get the hell out of there.

At some point later Jim finally tells McCoy, he’s been putting it off since he knows Bones will try and talk him out of it and he really can’t handle that.

Bones of course tells him he’s being an idiot and what the hell do you think you’re going to do behind a desk. Jim just tells him its what he wants and that he’s doing what best for him. Bones doesn’t push too hard and just tells him some day he’s going to wake up and hate his life so much that he would be willling to steal a spaceship just to be captain again.

But then Bones sorta throws him for a loop, and tells Jim he’s going to miss him and the Enterprise won’t be the same without him. Not that he would ever admit it but Jim was sure that Bones would also leave the Enterprise if he left and maybe even take a position on the Yorktown, Cos like Bones hates space and Bones has sorta gone above and beyond for Jim. Jim really doesn’t know what to do about this. Since he’s emotionally closed off he does’t ask Bones to leave the Enterprise with him, so he just lets that idea go.

So McCoy stays as CMO because he’s already done the whole running away when things get tough thing and he actually loves being in space and exploring the great unknown, he just likes to complain. Also he can’t exactly hypo Jim and drag him back onto the Enterprise to be captain

Meaning Sulu becomes captain, Uhura is still chief communications officer, Chekov is the navigator,  Scotty obviously stays as CE, Carol comes back as science officer and some rando is the pilot. (dont know who the first officer would be either Uhura or Chekov or maybe a new person who’s older)

Over the next five years McCoy stays in touch with both Jim and Spock, basically trying to get both of them to realise they belong on the Enterprise but neither budge. 

The crew have fun wacky hijinks in space, while Jim and Spock both grow to hate the work they’re actually doing. Maybe Jim gets promoted to admiral which he some how hates even more. Spock realises he still is sorta out of place among Vulcans and has not actually married a good Vulcan girl and had children like he thought he was going to (how he survives pon farr is anyones guess) McCoy can see it on their faces when they talk but he’s stuck in the middle of deep space so theres nothing he can really do. (he also knows they have to come to this realisation themselves) However McCoy is having a great time, loving space, loving his job and doing the badass doctor thing. (I do think he tells them this hoping it will change their minds or maybe make them jealous or to be like what the hell guys I’m enjoying life, you guys should be happy too. This does not work)

Then finally the five year mission is over, Jim and Spock both go to Earth to see the triumphant return of the flagship. 

McCoy just looks at both of them for a few moments and asks if they’re ready to steal that spaceship yet (and to get their heads out of their asses)

[anewstartrekfan]

Reading an old Star Trek book and to my surprise Jim Kirk has always had Daddy issues

So the only Star Trek book I’ve read was the one explaining how the tribbles episode was made and the aftermath, so trying to read Enterprise (1986) with some basic knowledge of trek post 2009 is fascinating. Cuz you see where the breadcrumbs of some of the characterization and even backstory come from.

In chapter 2, Sam Kirk and Kirk’s mom show up to Kirk’s ceremony where he takes command of the enterprise. They talk about George Kirk Sr. being in Starfleet, (he’s dead here too) something that I don’t think was in any of the episodes or movies. And how he was always distant and away. And they’re clearly going for some parallels/dramatic irony with the Wrath of Khan when it comes to Kirk not believing he could’ve developed a relationship with his father as an adult. And it plays into the tragic aspect I love about Kirk.

Upon reflection he’s happy that Carol rejected him (he proposed to her in chapter 1) because he doesn’t want to leave anyone behind while on the job, only returning for sparse visits the way his father did. But at the same time, Jim craves companionship. And he can’t get it in his current job because as captain, it is not ethical for him to date anyone else on the Enterprise.

Anyway the long and short is if we take this book into account, Kirk has always had daddy issues. It’s just in TOS EU it was abandonment issues whereas in 2009 it was dad sacrificed himself so high expectations issues.

The little details like the mom’s name getting carried over into the aos movies are a good touch, but then seeing George Kirk being a Starfleet officer actually get incorporated into the 2009 movie as an important plot point, and then also using his absence in Kirk’s life but just in a different way as part of Kirk’s backstory is so cool to me.

A difference though is unlike fanfic tropes, Winona is actually a good mom and wants Jim to succeed in his career where his father failed in his Starfleet career. Unfortunately though Jim appears to be falling into the same pitfalls. As in lack of communication and unwillingness to play workplace politics.

That last burn from Winona tho… like damn girl I felt that.

Another thing I want to backtrack to, Sam Kirk. Sam being the alleged chosen child, the one that was supposed to follow in George Kirk’s footsteps but didn’t, and then Jim strolled in and did even more than what Sam was supposed to do, and Sam and George never reconciled. Like dudes this book is almost 40 years old and this stuff was in strange new worlds last year. Tho xenobiology appears to have morphed into xenoanthropology (tho according to the fan wiki he’s still a biologist so idk what the deal is)

For the record Sam’s characterization isn’t remotely the same here. Likely the choice to keep him out of Starfleet all together removed any sort of resentment of Jim potential like he has in SNW. There’s still tension though, as Sam tries to force Jim to confront why he’s reacting like this to his first mission for the enterprise being an escort job for a flying horse.

Shifting gears back to Jim needing to learn how to play workplace politics. The assumed reason for Pike leaving the enterprise. While SNW is doing the whole, Pike knows he won’t fly the enterprise forever and about the disfigurement and is cool with it, I find if fascinating that he’s more, sad about it here and that he got promoted out of the way for pushing too many buttons. It would be a sad ending but I wonder if SNW would incorporate that into its eventual ending. Hell I wonder if that’s what happened to Kirk between TOS and TMP.

Anyway big picture is this book is a fascinating time capsule and it’s fun seeing just how much has stuck around over the years both in fandom and in the franchise itself. Whether or not that’s the book’s doing is questionable but still. Fun to think about.

[twinkboimler]

after posting a fic late last night I realized it was my 25th star trek fic so! I just want to highlight my personal favorites that I've written!

An Endless Stream of Tomorrows: TOS movies-era spirk. After the events of The Voyage Home, Jim and Spock are back on Earth in Jim's apartment and Jim is overcome with the need to immediately propose. what remains unsaid: TOS-TOS movies-era. Five times Jim thought he should leave a note or write a letter and the one time he finally did regarding Carol Marcus and David. Takes place across the years as Jim finds out about David and considers reaching out. I'm just a sucker for this one LOL intuition: AOS spirk. While delivering supplies to a mining colony, Jim gets hurt and Spock has to save him. Good ol' Vulcan touch telepathy to force them to confess their feelings. Under the Surface: AOS spirk. Multi-chapter. Kinda a character study that somehow hit 30k in length. I really tried to get into Jim's head with this one. This fic is so near and dear to my heart. shore leave at yosemite, take two: TOS movies-era mcspirk. Expands the final scene in The Final Frontier when the three of them are all camping together. Literally just three elderly men confessing their feelings before going at it. What I've Been Meaning To Say: AOS spones. Post-Star Trek: Beyond, the bridge crew all rent a beach house together for a week for some needed shore leave. Leonard shows up late and finds when they all go to bed that there has been a miscalculation in the number of rooms they needed. Bed sharing + feelings realization and confession.

Enjoy!

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Official AOS Character Bracket!

And here’s the final bracket! Round One will go live tomorrow, 7/24 at 10 am EST!

Full List:

Round One:

Left Side:

Admiral Alexander Marcus vs. Chief Engineer Olson: poll here

Kalara vs. Keenser: poll here

Ayel vs. Ben Sulu: poll here

Khan vs. Captain Christopher Pike: poll here

Krall vs. Nero: poll here

Nyota Uhura vs. Commodore Paris: poll here

Montgomery Scott vs. Dr. Carol Marcus: poll here

Hikaru Sulu vs. Thomas Harewood: poll here

Right Side:

Pavel Chekov vs. Sarek: poll here

Spock vs. Demora Sulu: poll here

Amanda Grayson vs. Kevin: poll here

Winona Kirk vs. Manas: poll here

Captain Jim Kirk vs. Ambassador Spock: poll here

George Kirk vs. Jaylah: poll here

Dr. Leonard McCoy vs. Syl: poll here

Gaila vs. Captain Richard Robau: poll here

Round Two:

Left Side:

Chief Engineer Olson vs. Keenser: poll here

Ben Sulu vs. Captain Christopher Pike: poll here

Nero vs. Nyota Uhura: poll here

Montgomery Scott vs. Hikaru Sulu: poll here

Right Side

Pavel Chekov vs. Spock: poll here

Amanda Grayson vs. Winona Kirk: poll here

Ambassador Spock vs. Jaylah: poll here

Dr. Leonard McCoy vs. Gaila: poll here

Quarter-Finals:

Left Side:

Keenser vs. Captain Christopher Pike: poll here

Nyota Uhura vs. Hikaru Sulu: poll here

Right Side:

Spock vs. Amanda Grayson: poll here

Ambassador Spock vs. Dr. Leonard McCoy: poll here

[gremlines]

star trek aos legally blonde au

jim kirk goes to starfleet academy to win back his ex, gary mitchell, via academic excellence in the command track. kirk (and gary but that's less impt) get recruited to work under pike's mentorship, and meet his other protege, science track cadet first class spock who has a 🎵 chip on his shoulder 🎵 and who initially butts heads w kirk but they end up working closely together under pike and it all comes to a head when kirk finds out pike knew his dad and kirk thinks he only got the mentorship bc of nepotism (no sexual assault in this pls and thank u!)

and uh idk the Big Case they end up working on involves tom leighton (narratively as fitness instructor brooke windham) who has been charged w murdering actor anton karidian

featuring leonard bones mccoy as the begrudging roommate but narratively as paulette, uhura narratively as vivian (but not as gary's girlfriend), carol as kirk's friend from back home (narratively the delta nu girls), and whoever u want as delivery man brandon

[quantum27]

personal wants for snw s3 whenever it comes out (studios pls give your workers fair things pls and thank you)

Ortegas development. I know a lot of ppl noticed this but she was really just "hehe fly the ship" this season. Tom Paris was like the Pilot character before this and he had tons of hobbies. Give her some. Let her have a story episode or something or just. Idk. Let her do some shit.

I want to see Dr Korby and i want him and Christine to be insane together. When they mentioned him my brain went wild because he had one of those most wild plots in tos.

Probably never get this but I'd love a gag where they replicate the original gorn suit and have one character they do not acknowledge look completely different than the rest of the gorn. I miss ridiculous looking gorn. Don't get me wrong I love the new designs but also I miss funny guy.

someone acknowledging that Kirk keeps showing up for no good reason. Like. It would be such a good joke if pulled off right. That or like emotional if they're like "feels like destiny is pulling me here"

Carol Marcus. I wanna see her and hopefully have her written like her original characterization. (Calm, sassy, passionate. Etc) into darkness aos Carol is badass but let's be real she's literally not the same character.

Also I would love to see Jim be defeated when she tells him she doesn't want him in their kid's life. I don't think Jim Kirk would be a good father (not a bad one just like. He's awkward with kids canonically.) But cutting off contact would be. Awful emotions.

Less spock. Not saying we shouldn't see him but I wanna see the characters we aren't as familiar with. I love Spock but I just wanna spend more time with the new characters.

Perhaps we will get that enterprise crossover since everyone loved the lower decks one and enterprise deserves love. Star trek characters age into their 100s even as humans thanks to medicine and aos references Admiral Archer so. (Scott Bakula ily <3)

[thegeminisage]

WRATH OF KHAN breakdown

i watched this movie with catherine maulthots six days ago and liveblogged it incoherently on a notepad file on my phone because No Way was i opening this devils website when spock could die any moment. i am recording my experiences here for posterity

firstly i did know going in that he was going to die. this made me wracked with anxiety. more on that later. actually when kirk walked up and was like ha ha arent you supposed to be dead i almost lost it .5 seconds into the movie

absolute first thing was that we werent sure whether or not the thing in the beginning was a test. absolutely LOST MY MIND when i realized it was the kobayashi maru. every ten seconds during this movie i went "omg an aos reference" even though i knew it was really the other way around. somehow i thought mister perfect tos jim wouldn't cheat on the test so when they sort of hinted at what he did but didn't say it i was FROTHING to know more

bones's gay little posture. that's it that's the whole bullet

bones coming to jim's place at night was like the opening of some retro gay porno. DELIGHTED to find out that jim's allergies were not in fact an aos fanon but based in both aos and tos canon (re his little old man glasses)

mad that all of the movies seem to flirt with whether or not james t kirk should retire or captain a starship and then never resolve that question ever. it's like will shatner's insecurity about aging was leeching into the very script. girl we ALL KNOW what he should be doing so either shit or get off the pot

birthday gifts cute though. oh my fucking god. a book and glasses and he shows up with both repeatedly throughout the film

khan's tits were amazing. even as an asexual, even queer as a two dollar bill, i am full of admiration for what he had going on. he was rockin it

when they put the little worms into chekov and terrel cathy was like "omg THATS why they called them khan worms" and then i got to say "omg spn reference" instead of "omg aos reference" and we were so excited she wasn't even mad about it. also, they were so gross, oh my god, i couldn't look, she had to tell me when it was safe to unhide my eyes

meanwhile we're also mercilessly mocking the oversight that allowed khan and chekov to know one another. how did that plothole make it into production

EYE personally was very shocked at the amount of non-annoying women in the movie (two??). i liked both saavik and carol though i had to google to see if saavik was a human or vulcan. VERY cute that spock gave her the wheel to fuck with kirk specifically even though anyone but kirk being captain is so WEIRD. spock can be acting captain but not actual captain!!!

i ALSO knew from spoilers that carol had had kirk's fucking child which i may have accidentally also ruined for catherine so when a woman with an adult son mentioned james kirk onscreen we both became a little. unwell.

khan's "i shall have him" this sort of sexual tension is one of many things missing from into darkness. NOT that i want to see b*nedict c*mberbatch have that with anyone bc he is quite literally so ugly i have to cover his face with my hand when i watch into darkness but they should have cast a better person as khan and then made him have sexual tension with kirk.

cathy on the khan worms coming out of chekov's ears: wow, i love that! me on the same thing: i hate it

khan's "i wish to go on hurting you" no comment

khan yell REALLY GOOD. glad to see some things never change. william shatner was like i have been and will ever be a huge fucking ham

when carol marcus went "can i cook or can't i" i decided to go ahead and start liking women again. nature is healing, etc

if i had seen kirk pop that apple in his mouth while talking about how he didn't like to lose before i wrote gambler's knife. well. the fic probably wouldn't have changed much but my brain chemistry has certainly changed now. i can't explain w human words. AAAAAAUGH

spock's line about "sauce for the goose" was so out of character we had to check the transcript and make sure that was him speaking and not kirk. "sauce for the goose"??? sir, you're a vegetarian

the cgi was surprisingly good in whatever version we watched. it really holds up, which is ironic considering we had 20-minute vistas of it in the previous movie, where it was just okay

spock's death. i cried all the way through. don't text.

i did have a vague idea of what was going on when he melded with bones bc you literally cant avoid spoilers but i didn't have Details so i was very shocked for a second until i remembered

SPOCK'S FUNERAL. oh he would have been insulted to hear jim call him human!!!!! but he WAS

kirk trying to run away from his kid was really good. if i hadn't been blinded with tears i would have really enjoyed it. didn't like the "you've never faced death" bit though bc OBVIOUSLYYY he was on tarsus iv.

anyway then they panned to the coffin and i was like SURELY HES GONNA POP OUT AND SAY SIKE but he didn't. he didn't and i just had to live with that. and we had planned to watch search for spock immediately the next day but fate intervened and i had to skip it TWO DAYS in a row and nearly died. the end.

also, i didn't realize the book spock had given kirk was the one he quoted at the end!!!!!!! really horrible.

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