#anti-wyler

[jiminysjournal]

I put the Parks & Rec codename meme to a template. Here's an example, using my Wednesday Addams ships (plus a BroTP and a NoTP):

A key:

Eagle One: The character in question

BTDT: Either a ship from a previous incarnation or one from the past (in this case, the former)

CDT: Either a ship from a more recent incarnation or the one you ship for the present (again, the former)

It happened once…: One-sided; use the asterisk to indicate on whom's part (so, yes; I'm saying Amanda has an unrequited crush on Wednesday — one which she will deny, by the way)

If I had to pick…: For any other acceptable ships/any ships with a character of a different gender than you usually ship the character with (Joel is the ONLY acceptable male LI for Wednesday!)

Eagle Two: BroTP (such as literal siblings)

I'd be lying…: Crackship (hear me out…)

Broke It: NoTP (or, at least, one of them)

Three transparent templates under the cut.

[brenshor]

Omg he's a fucking actor, I never got that. I wondered if he painted or sculpted or what kinda artist he could be like Xavier, but HE'S A FUCKING ACTOR!

[cupoteahatter]

What if I said that Wednesday and Tyler aren’t as toxic as everyone screams they are

What if I said that it’s the circumstance that they find themselves in that is toxic

What if I said that it is because of that toxic circumstance that the two of them have found themselves embroiled in something that appears simple and yet is utterly complicated

What if I said that this is the miscommunication trope being used correctly?

What if I said any of that, hm?

[darklinaforever]

What does that have to do with the Wyler tag ?!

Seriously ?!

But also, I don't understand the mention of Hunter being gay either ?! The link given by the anon doesn't talk about the people who ship the actors, but simply the characters of Tyler & Wednesday !

Yes Hunter is gay. And ? Tyler is not. So what's the connection ? Again, the link is about the characters, not the actors.

And yes, whether they like it or not, the scene looks like they could kiss. They're literally close to each other, breathing heavily ? Literally a cliché in terms of romance, especially among enemies to lovers ?

This is literally a request and a answer trying to make the Wylers shippers seem crazy when the link it's just a Wyler scene from the show with background music ?!

Also, I don't understand the person's delirium answer to say that enemies to lovers works in fandoms and fanfics but not well on screen today ? Literally, what are you talking about ? It's still one of the most popular tropes that has existed since always !

And the same arguments again ! "What difference does it make that Tyler is Laurel's victim for Wednesday ?! He almost killed Eugene and Enid !"

Yes... Eugene essentially under the orders of Laurel, his master to whom he is forced to obey and who tortured him ?

Note also that Laurel technically didn't tell Tyler to kill Eugene but to take care of him and that strangely, he's the only victim of Tyler who escaped death ? Coincidence ? Maybe not !

And if you want an explanation for Enid, it is implied that the Hyde offers a second personality, different from the human version ? The Hyde is not Tyler. It's a second personality. Literally, these people are being dishonest on purpose.

And they go so far as to agree that the Hyde should be excluded ? While the show is literally about the treatment of the marginalized ? The excluded from society ? And they think it's positive that there is a category of outcast among the outcasts themselves ?!

Clearly not.

The treatment of Hyde is something that needs to change in this show ! And for that, we first need to finish understanding how these creatures really work.

But hey... Not as if we had incomplete research on the subject, that Wednesday is interested in it and that she just happens to have a Hyde on hand to look into the subject...

I wonder where this scenario could lead us ?! But certainly not to a questioning of the treatment of these creatures by the society of this story according to the antis (#irony) ?! Of course, nothing will ever change for the Hydes ! They are too dangerous ! Long live the status quo !

This is driving me crazy !

Yes, what the hell would Wednesday who defends the oppressed and the victims, have to do with Tyler, the outcast of outcasts himself who was groomed by a psycho who triggered the Hyde in him to use him as a puppet and who has the equivalent of a mental illness by being a Hyde. Hyde by which she is fascinated, and who it is implied that she will complete the unfinished research on them ?!

Seriously, the writers racked their brains to write us a character like Tyler, a teenager with multiple problems, including family problems, a victim of abuse and whose hyde (the creature marginalized among the marginalized themselves, knowing that the whole message of the show is to accept the marginalized in reality) seems to be the equivalent of a mental illness, for people to be like "Yes, this guy is a pure villain who cannot have redemption ! He is rotten and the show is right when it says that the Hyde are too dangerous for the world ! Nothing must change and nothing aspires to a change of point of view on these creatures in a show where we are encouraged to accept the marginalized (and whose hyde is the marginald of the marginalized himself) through the only Hyde that we meet in person throughout the story who is only a teenager victim of abuse with the metaphor of mental illness !

These people are tiring me out...

Also, saying that Wednesday letting Tyler fight Enid is proof that she doesn't forgive him makes no sense ? She literally has a school to save, and at this point, she's still mad at Tyler ?

Also, it's crazy how much it goes over their heads that Wednesday doesn't blame Tyler specifically for nearly killing her friends. First, it would be bad faith, because she also did it in the show with Enid, but above all, it's a question of ego. No really justice in her anger towards Tyler.

She is mainly angry at Tyler because he managed to fool her and her intelligence. She is deeply hurt in her ego and personal feelings. Once this aspect calms down everything will surely be better and she could potentially look again at the case of the Hydes whose research remains incomplete, and therefore Tyler.

But to return to her friends, Enid and Eugene are fine. Wednesday can recover from what Tyler almost did to them. Especially since Eugene was under Laurel's orders (and strangely, Tyler who could have easily killed Eugene... strangely didn't do it ?), and that Enid explains it by the fact that Tyler was in Hyde mode, his second monstrous personality, that he doesn't seem to really have control over ?

Just... God, if you think Wyler is an impossible relationship to fix, then you've never read or seen a real enemies to lovers romance !

I literally read one romance where the guy almost killed the heroine forever by stabbing her in the heart ! And if it weren't for the intervention of other characters, she would have died ! And yet at the end of the story, they're happily married !

The enemies to lovers trope isn't as fragile as these morons think it is ! One mistake and the relationship is dead forever ? Wow... Wyler is also so soft in that category too ! The antis / Wenclairs seem like a bunch of fragile people when they talk about Wyler.

Literally every time these people try to put the Wylers down they just make fools of themselves. Because they just bring up arguments that have been contradicted a billion times or are comically weak, or they just say bullshit that is simply not true.

And they have the nerve to say that we are fucking insanely dangerous ?! But on what basis, in fact ?! Seriously, this part of the fandom needs to get some treatment.

[kevinthebull]

Okay I just saw a Wyler shipper tell others to dox wenclair shippers. Just because they disagree on a ship. This is officially to far. Like it is one thing to dislike a ship and even its shippers but doxing people is not okay. Like seriously its shipping fictional characters, grow up.

[prefer-to-be-vilified]

See? We aren’t so different 🖤🖤🖤

[juju-or-anya]

It's cathartic and fun to write a fic where Laurel must pay for her sins by watching as a ghost, unable to do anything but watch and throw a tantrum, as Wednesday and Tyler get together, because they were meant to be together.

[theenbynightingale]

Wednesday: In the end, my boyfriend became my arch enemy, my arch enemy became my best friend, and my best friend became my girlfriend. But, alas, that's high school.

[iamfandomcrazy]

Xavier: Wednesday doesn't hate me

Wednesday:

Tyler:

Students of Nevermore:

Literally anyone who has seen the two of them interact:

[kimmiessimmies]

Wistfulness (33/34)

 James quickly pulled his phone from his back pocket. The text he wrote was still on the screen.

“This is very much none of my business,” Dante said as James put his phone back in his pocket, “But I accidentally saw what you wrote when I picked up your phone, and I think if you miss her this much, you should send it. Let her know."

"I’m only saying that because I had to miss many people in my life and I can’t tell them. So if you can, please tell her while you still have the chance.”

James shook his head, “It’s a bit more complicated than that…” “I’m sorry,” Dante said, “I’m sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong…”

[hislittleraincloud]

“Enid opens her mouth and I put a single finger over her mouth to stop her”

“They robbed us of this” lmao the delusions!!! Jenna would physically cringe if she had to act that out.

She would never, despite what the delusional fans think.

She wouldn't and DIDN'T EVER say the maudlin bullshit she said to Tyler during their break from the dance in the hall. What the fuck sort of braindead bullshit is that even? The Mejia treatment of the whole Rave'N might irritate me the most out of everything, and probably because I'm having to defend Wyler because of it.

Ship goggles off: The Rave'N episode was about Wednesday relaxing her stringent "no potential non-platonic relationships" stance with the little push that Thing gave her (yes, he manipulated this, but he did it because he sensed that Wednesday liked Tyler and vice versa). It was where we all got to see Wednesday Addams be herself in front of other people without a care in the world to what she looked like, dancing to a song about oral sex and focused on that boy. She literally "ducked" for him during the song and was dancing for him à la Addams Family lore/tradition. Her movements are literally like her parents, humorously seductive (the clams/her miming):

We are Tyler here. Her famous, too-often reproduced photo still of her with her arms up — that's Tyler's POV.

And to completely fuck with it the way Mejia did (turning it into a Wenclairfest) is insulting to this canon. It's insulting to Ortega's work, and remember, she stupidly filmed this scene COVID positive. (As a microbiologist's kid, I have very strong feelings about COVID and other highly communicable and deadly diseases.) She risked getting other people sick to film this as it was filmed, and to take her art and modify it so that it serves your own purposes instead of providing an accurate description of what was depicted on screen in an official publication is self-centered, insulting, and disrespectful to the actress that they purport to love.

But like I said...she would never do anything that was modified in the Mejia book because none of it was anything canon Wednesday would do. Yet the abject delusion is strong:

🤦🏽‍♂️

[brenshor]

Wednesday's literal worst fear is that she'll hurt the people around her, and some of the more rude wyler fans in my mentions expect us to believe she WANTS to be with Hyde-boy? Know why Ivan the Terrible was called that? Not because he was cruel to his people! But because he was cruel to those who tried to harm his people! Sound familar?

[tylernation]

A message to the toxic Brazilian Wenclair supporters on Twitter.

To the toxic Wenclair fanatics from Brazil who have blocked me on Twitter. Keep your vile, man-hating, toxic lives out of this fandom. What happened? You all ran out of stuff to attack on Percy so now you go after Hunter for his take on his character’s relationship with Wednesday. Seriously you people are pathetic, labelling Hunter/Tyler a groomer cause she’s underage. HE’S FUCKING UNDERAGE IN THE SHOW AS WELL YOU DUMBASSES!!!

Yes he manipulated her, but that’s not grooming! If you’re looking for a groomer, then look at Laurel and what she did to Tyler prior to the events of the first season. That bitch there is a groomer. I’ve never once made negative comments about Wednesday or Enid. So what gives you the right to go after ours in such a toxic manner when we have done nothing to you whatsoever. You Brazilian lesbians who are so hooked on wanting Jenna and Emma to hook up (which will never happen) are so delusional and pathetic, and are the main reason that this fandom is far from great today.

Apologies to all the good Wenclair fans who are not toxic and very kind. Sorry that these people have to go after a character or a ship you like. I just needed to vent this out and when they display their toxicity, I will come out knives blazing.

[darklinaforever]

I'll never understand people who ship Wednesday with Xavier and call Tyler a walking red flag, when clearly the real walking red flag in the show besides Wednesday herself is Xavier.

[waviermylove]

Tyler, annoyed: I didn't know you fancy Xavier.

Wednesday, staring at Xavier: Of course I don't.

Tyler: Then why are you blushing?

Wednesday: I'm not. It's a rash; I'm allergic to you.

[prefer-to-be-vilified]

I feel like I’d ship Wyler more if the Wyler fandom was more unhinged and really leant into the toxicity ya know. Because you can ship whatever you want, it’s a fictional relationship but they both ended season 1 actively trying to kill each other and also it would be really funny if they continued to remain super toxic

So for example, here are some Wyler headcanons I believe the Wyler fandom should adopt (just a suggestion do what you want idc):

- Wednesday exclusively refers to Tyler as ‘bitch boy’ or ‘shit head’

- Wednesday once got Tyler arrested by pretending he had kidnap her in public because she was bored

- They’re that couple that has really loud, aggressive arguments during important gatherings of friends and family (weddings, birthdays, baby showers etc.) making everyone present really uncomfortable

- Tyler can’t swim so Wednesday decided to push him off a bridge, she watched him flail around for 20mins as he made his way ashore while desperately trying not to drown (he’s now a mildly better swimmer)

- Tyler gaslit Wednesday into believing she started sleep massacre-ing when really he’s been drugging her post-dinner espresso, carrying her into the woods, covering her in animal blood and then straight up just leaving her there

- Wednesday starts wearing Tyler’s clothes to commit crimes and then leaves them at the scene

- Tyler pretends to flinch when Wednesday makes sudden movements around him because he thinks it’s funny that no one doubts she would beat him despite the fact that he’s twice her size and a Hyde

- Wednesday lies to Tyler’s probation officer so that he gets sent back to prison because and I quote “he was annoying me”

- Wednesday threatened to break up with him if Tyler didn’t transform into the Hyde and let her entire family hunt him for sport

- Tyler’s Hyde ate her stalker in a jealous rage after he wouldn’t take no for an answer and Wednesday didn’t speak to him for a week because she wanted to be the one to kill him

- Despite all of this they both insist that Enid should break up with Ajax because he looked at her funny once and their baby angel deserves better