#anti-wavier

[panphilosopher]

Weems, glaring at her students: You answered your career path seriously, right?

[All the students' heads bowed, trying not look her in the eye]

Weems: I'll check it right here.

Weems: [pulls out Kent's, Career choice: High School Student] See, I know it! This is what I'm talking about! I begging you, take this seriously!

Weems: [pulls out Eugene's, Career choice: be science adventurer] Which one?!

Weems: [pulls out Xavier's, Career choice: be Wednesday's husband] Try be realistic here!

Weems: [pulls out Ajax', Career choice: don't want to be a doctor] Then don't write anything down!

Weems: [pulls out Yoko's, Career choice: have Harem of Girls] Gross! Pervert! Why will you write that down!?

Weems: [pulls out Divina's, Career choice: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯] Huh?!

Weems: [pulls out Bianca's, Career choice: get a beloved mother] Get therepy, not a new mom!

Weems: [pulls out Enid's, Career choice: be Wednesday's mistress] Why not just marry her?!

Weems: [pulls out Wednesday's, Career choice: become successful author][flip over the desk] Make a joke!

[scrumptiousobjectcollector]

Xavier literally stalking Wednesday into the woods. Trying to control who she talks to. Then is absolutely dismissive and pretentious about her inquiries about the monster.

Then she tells him about crackstone burning a whole slew of outcasts and his only reaction is "he was an asshole"... imagine being that obtuse.

Then he has the nerve to say "emotion isn't your strong suit". Get this man away from her now. Let's mirror this moment in the woods vs Wednesday telling Enid about Nero.

*this is a pro wednesday post not a pro wyler post. She needs a restraining order on both of them /hj

[novemberwasgrey]

When your only hope for the plot in S2 is this:

Wednesday: So basically the only way to save the school again is killing Tyler?

Xavier: AND NOW LOOK AT ME AND THIS OPPORTUNITYYYY

[scooter-ing]

hi, another incoherent blurb. i apologize in advance. i wrote a little para about this earlier but

ugh, there's something about rewatching scenes in wednesday and just noticing xavier's behavior.

like, he's so entitled. idk, i feel like he just thinks he's deserving of wednesday's attention and affection even though wednesday brushes him off so much. and i don't wanna just repeat shit, but?? "i should've let rowan kill you" to expecting wednesday to actually text him is just 💀. leave her alone girl.

not to mention how creepy it was for him to just be like "oh i ASSUME you're here to ask me out to the dance!" knowing wednesday fucking addams is literally just snooping around his art studio? i feel like especially since he specifically remembered her from that one really vivid memory of her "saving" him at a funeral would lead him to at least not jump to the weirdest fucking conclusion of "oh this chick wants to ask me to be her date to a dance."

and i know what they're trying to do. they're trying to recreate a morticia/gomez type relationship with wednesday and xavier. the "oh we first met at a funeral, how romantic for an addams" blah blah whatever. like girl, wednesday didn't even fucking remember him, 💀💀 he was that irrelevant. if you wanna make wednesday date a guy, make it that joel guy from the old movies, they actually kissed instead of whatever weird stalker-y tactics xavier uses. xavier is actually so embarrassing.

"oh but wednesday took an arrow for xavier at the end!!" enid sinclair, who literally had built up self-loathing due to emotional abuse from her mother regarding her inability to wolf-out, literally fucking wolfed-out because of wednesday!! oh my god!! enid and wednesday's bond was that strong! and btw any post about wednesday is probably going to be relating to wenclair so my bad ig

[waviermylove]

“You're going to go through life thinking that people don't like you because you killed people and you're a Hyde. And I want you to know, from the bottom of my heart, that that won't be true. It'll be because you're an asshole.”

—Xavier Thorpe, to Tyler Galpin

[kevinthebull]

I have a small rant and it might be a little long

Wyler shippers are not being attacked. People are pointing out issues and a lot of your responses are to bully the other ships and act like you are the victim. Seriously I have never seen a Wavier shipper flat out harass a Wyler only respond to Wyler shippers, I have never seen a Wenclair shipper just flat out insult those who ship Wyler only point the issues, and I have certainly never seen a Wenclay shippers even mention Wyler.

What I have seen is shippers point out issues with a ship and those who ship said ship act like that is a personal attack rather than just a call for conversation. Also I know not all Wyler shippers play the victim card because I have had a lot of nice and peaceful conversations with Wyler shippers. But the vocal minority is what turns people off of ships. Not every criticism of your ship is an attack on it or you.

Also because I have seen people claim this. No not every issue can be traced back to people not wanting a straight ship. That is a dumb argument that puts everyone into a straw man spot because often times sexuality is not the issue.

This is an extremely long rant that is not an attack on the ship or it's shippers, but just pointing out that no you are not a attacked or oppressed party in any way.

[darklinaforever]

So… I saw someone say that Wednesday and Xavier were a typical Tim Burton couple because they're both "Socially awkward outcast and kind hearted" And I wondered what that person was up to smoke ?

No because when it comes to being an outcast, you know who else is ? Tyler. Besides, Wednesday has as much trouble fitting in with normal people as it does with pariahs. And Tyler is in exactly the same situation. Especially Tyler. So sorry, but Tyler is a lot more like Wednesday on that outcast-wise.

Also… When is Xavier socially awkward in society during the series ? Because I have no memory of that. I mean, Wednesday is the one who really struggles with this. But whether it's Xavier or Tyler, both handle the basic social aspect much better.

Then, as for having a "good heart", uh… how to say ? They all have it ? And everyone has their problems ? Tyler may hate outcasts and be a Hyde (which isn't a choice, he was born that way), but he's mentally disturbed and first and foremost a victim of abuse. It's not a monster. Just someone misunderstood who has been hurt, who has been fed his anxieties, as well as planting the seed of his hatred for the pariah.

Wednesday is a girl with sociopathic and / or serial killer tendencies, but she cares about the people she has love / affection for and will do anything to protect them.

Xavier is a guy… rather nice and normal but who, sorry, seems quite toxic in terms of romantic relationships.

I also want to say that precisely, Tim Burton tends to create couples between human / monster, or between people unsuited to society, but once again, Tyler corresponds much more to Wednesday on this point. He's an outcast as much to humans as he is to the outcasts in question, just like Wednesday.

You can like whatever ship you want, but just don't deny the fact. Is Xavier an outcast ? Yes. But as much as everyone in the school. It does not give him a particular link with Wednesday on this point. He's not the same type as Wednesday in terms of an outcast, unlike, again, Tyler's character.

At least that's my opinion. I really don't understand the fans of the ship between Wednesday and Xavier. They are nothing special. They are bland and boring to me. However, there are people who compare them to Gomez and Morticia ?! Like, sorry ?! I even have a friend of mine who is convinced that Wednesday will end with Xavier, that the end of season 1 sets this up and that there is no hope with Tyler, simply because he is a Hyde and lied See you Wednesday on that then… That he had no choice ? He had a fucking master ? Sorry, but I don't understand people who love these two together.

[incorrect-wenvier-quotes]

Tyler: *Gets down on one knee*

Wednesday: Oh, it’s finally happening.

Xavier: *Walks in*

Xavier: Wednesday...?

Tyler: *Falls over*

Wednesday: The poison is kicking in.

[sissytobitch10seconds]

Me: Some of us, and I’m not naming names, make the fandom a pretty toxic place by shitting on other people and not coexisting with other ships.

Wyler/Weyler: Is it me?

Me: No.

Wenclair: Is it me?

Me: Well it’s not Wyler/Weyler.

[arlovegood]

Will people call Wednesday ooc and say that fans ruined the show when they realize that Wednesday and Xavier is not a slow burn and instead just a boy being obsessed with a girl who did nothing but shove in his face that she likes and is dating someone else?

[hitchell-mope]

At this point I have to wonder

Does anyone on tumblr actually like the genre of the shows they watch anymore? Wednesday, supernatural, stranger things. None of them are ever going to be the peppy, inoffensive milquetoast, glurge fest they want it to be. For example

The possibility of Xavier being Wednesday’s stalker and Tyler being a serial killer exponentially increases the chances of her choosing one of them. The only things standing in the way of either happening is Wednesday getting Xavier arrested, which he seems to have gotten over pretty quickly may I say, and the fact Tyler made her look foolish. The creepier they are the more interested she is. She’s not a normal person. She doesn’t live by normal person rules. It’s an Addams family murder mystery, comedy, whodunnit. I’ll say it again Addams. Family. They don’t work by a normal morality system. You complain they seem too normal. Then you complain when Wednesday night get with a creepy boy. Make up your damn minds and get with the genre already. You might enjoy it more

I have no doubt that hellers like to go on about how Dean’s “cray cray”. But then he wants to get into bed with the car he was conceived and raised in. Or he puts everyone in the universe in the line of fire on the 0.1% chance it’ll save Sam. Then they go “oh god no. Too crazy. We should make unfounded baseless think pieces about how he likes to dye his hair unflattering colours and slow dances with his roadkill boyfriend on the beach at sunset to completely out of character music”. That’s not Dean. That’s not supernatural. That’s what Victor Frankenstein thought Adam was. A nonsensical, monstrous, mishmash filled with unfulfilled expectations. And the hellers are ostriches with the heads in the sand because the truth will upset their “delicate sensibilities”. And yet they still play the victim.

Stranger things is a horror show. Not a campy eighties set comedy. Horror. So the cries of “make Will the main character and let him be happy” is a veritable oxymoron. He’s either the focus and he suffers beyond belief like in season two. Or he’s in the background and safe-ish. And besides. He’s not The Main Character. He never really was. He’s A main character, sure. But The Main Characters are Joyce, Jim, Mike and Jane. First four credited. And the ones who do the most legwork. I love Will. I do. He’s a great character. Even if he did get a little too bitchy in seasons three and four. But the fact of the matter is. He was the goal in season one and a chess piece for the Mind flayer in season two. He suffers less otherworldly torment in 3&4 because he isn’t the goal or chess piece anymore. It might be an ensemble show. But there are de facto main characters. Four in fact. But contrary to major belief. None of them are Will. If some of you learn to accept that. Then you might get a little less testy and be able to enjoy the show for what it is instead of what you’ve imagined.

All three are great shows. Well. Supernatural could stand to treat Sam a lot better. But the streamlined inoffensive claptrap some fans think it should be isn’t it. And it will never be it. It’s better how it is and some fans just have to accept that. Although I doubt they ever will

TL;DR: Wednesday, supernatural and stranger things are great, interesting and most of all dark shows. Removing the darkness removes everything that makes it interesting. Cutting and pruning them until they’re unrecognisable just leaves you with a blob fish slowly dying for lack of water. The shows are more than just what some fans think is or should be palatable. And the sooner some fans realise that the better the fandoms will be.

[a-smol-cosplayer]

since yall seemed to like my incorrect quotes - here are some fanfic tags for wednesday :D (if u make a comment about the og fandoms these where from ur biphobic, don't be rude)

pre-warning: highly wyler adjacent however there is some wavier and wenclair in there - but they are mostly just general bestie vibes :) also sorry about the quality :/ beggars can't be choosers, other than that here we go!

[littybeech]

“I love how aggressively she kisses back, like she wants to eat me alive.”

[novemberwasgrey]

Let's be clear on something

Wednesday AND Xavier are Slytherins.

Proud misunderstood artists who want to be recognized for their true worth and something other than their family's reputation (Wednesday doesn't want to be in Morticia's shadow and Xavier doesn't want to be associated to his famous dad).

Tyler is not a Slytherin just because he's a monster. At best, he's a Gryffindor gone bad like Peter Pettigrew.

[couragehopelovefaith]

May or may have not watched Wednesday in one night. Officially hooked. Jenna did an amazing job.  Wouldn’t be mad if Wednesday stayed single, but when it comes to ships...Strongly anti Wyler. It’s a tie between Wavier and Wenclair for me.  The most important thing to me is that she will still be written and developing believably.

I loved the bond between her and her brother, and her complicated relationship to her parents was interesting to follow as well. Thing and Enid stole the show for me this season. I’m so sad about Mrs Weems, I hope she will return somehow. I also loved the development of Bianca, I’m excited to see more of her. Can’t wait for season 2, there’s so much potential.

[waviermylove]

Wednesday: So, when my father lost his funeral parlor, my Uncle Fester-

Bianca: We don't have time for a weird Wednesday story right now. Just tell us your idea.

Wednesday: In short, We make a gruesome hostage video where it appears we're torturing Tyler and about to kill him.

Bianca:

Ajax:

Yoko:

Tyler, chained up and gagged:

Wednesday: Then we actually kill him via decapitation.

Kent: I’m scared.

Bianca: Well then, tell us whole thing and spare no detail.