#anti lila rossi

[obsidianstrawberrymilk]

How do you feel about lila rossi?

Hey anon, sorry this took a sec!

In all honesty, I don't care about her. She's a boring character with very little described motivation or real purpose beyond 'make Marinette angry/scared'. Her actions make little sense, every character around her is hit with the 'idiot ball' as soon as she opens her mouth because her lies fucking suck and everyone would know she was lying if they were normal, and I'm honestly just tired of her.

Also, her being Marinette's 'villain' makes little sense, because prior to that Marinette has zero focus on things like the Truth or hating lies. Girl is Ladybug - a big focus of her character is how she's forced to lie to everyone she cares about, and even lies and keeps secrets from her own partner because she's controlling and believes she can only do things by herself. It's literally a fucking character flaw. Honesty is not one of her main concerns lmao - she's a comically bad liar but she's not opposed to it unless Lila's involved. Like where did that come from?

I do think the Lila anon on ao3 is great though. They're hilarious. But Lila the character? I'm more annoyed with her than anything.

[x-queen-of-disaster-x]

The Miraculous season finale pissed me off so much.

So Gabriel the abusive piece of trash gets his wish and is remembered as a martyr instead of being exposed for the abuser and terrorist he is?

Chloe has to go live with her abusive mother because she’s beyond redemption somehow despite the fact that she’s only 14 and the literal terrorist is somehow redeemable?

No one’s going to bother telling Adrien the truth about him being a sentimonster or what a horrible person his father was?

And Lila fucking Villain Sue Rossi is really going to be our next big bad?

And Felix gets to be part of Marinette’s team despite the fact that he helped a terrorist in the previous season, and was the reason LB lost all the Miraculous?

God, what a bunch of bullshit!

I don’t even know if I’m going to tune into season 6.

[advluv4life]

I swear...I hate Lila. She exhausts me. Genuinely, hearing her talk, seeing her face... it limits how many episodes of Miraculous I can watch at one time.

[ultraericthered]

Don't think he was entirely bad in Season 2 either, but it's where "entitled wanker Adrien" first started popping up (in three episodes) and more heroes entering the fold began to make him seem more useless and not worth appearing to help Ladybug in absolutely every episode. And then he just got proper terrible from there...

But I have to say, you did this answer wrong if you did not include Andrei the ice cream man on here. I'd trade Lila out for him. Lila's forced, unbelievable crappy writing can at least be funny at times, whereas Andrei's only gets more and more insufferable each time!

Which is your most hated character in Miraculous Ladybug?

Can I list three?

I'm sure you can guess why.

There was a lot of potential in this character! When I heard that she was gonna get a Miraculous, I was excited to see what would lead up to that! I was curious to see what the kick in the butt would be to get her on the path of redemption!

And I was sorely disappointed. Instead of getting better, she got worse and even more entitled, and it didn't help that she was enabled by Number Three...

...let me tell you something.

I was a Marichat shipper. I was. It was one of the first ships I published fanfic for. If you look on my Wattpad, you can find a lot of Marichat shit. I ate it up, and I was super excited when we learned that there would be a Balcony Scene. I got even more excited when I learned that the episode, Glaciator, came out on my birthday.

What did I get? I got disappointment and discomfort when Chat Noir threw a temper tantrum over Ladybug not showing up for a plan she didn't agree to. He used his friends, who expected him to be there, as an excuse to sneak out. He complains all the time about not having time for his friends, and then doesn't spend time with them.

Slowly, I started to notice more and more off-behavior from Adrien Agreste and slowly grew more and more angry with this show, from telling Marinette to stay quiet to publicly enjoying Ladybug being uncomfortable. He is the symbol of how out of touch the creator is with young girls. It got to the point where I announced that I was never writing fanfic again and was solely gonna focus on my original writing because I was so sick of writing salt and knew it was unhealthy.

I didn't keep that promise, but I still hate Adrien. I still hate Chat Noir. I haven't taken down my old Marichat fics because I feel like they're an important showcase of where I started from, but I can't bring myself to write anything involving Adrien in a romantic relationship with anyone.

[lilyorchardstuff]

Dear me, Solid. Having found out you insulted the appearance of my friend @agramuglia, multiple times, I have decided to show you that I too, can play that game.

So, Lily. Is this you?

Perhaps this is you?

Or maybe THIS is you?

Natalie El-Khoury picture edited by Plastic Lily @lillianvalorchard

[plumsaffron]

The common collective thought of Lila wants power and fame?

Firstly, why is this seen as the awful?

Secondly, who said this? Where did this idea spawn from? This sounds like either projection people made themselves or the drinking of too much protagonist juice.

[fabseg-creator]

Miraculous fanart: Bride Cerise Bianca [AI Vs Artist II]

After Ladybug, it's Cerise's turn for being redesigned from an AI-generated image.

I've made the second digital fanart from the AI Vs Artist Redesign project.

The AI image that I adapted is below. It doesn't belong to me.

My opinion after finishing the work:

Bride Ladybug here:

Next part:

[stellarlex]

At this point Lila has more plot armor than Marinette salters ever accused Marinette of having. She literally gets away with everything with zero explanation and zero accountability.

[western-magical-girl-confessions]

“One of the dumbest excuses I always see for Lila is “She's just 14.” She is 14, she is more than old enough to be well aware that her actions are awful but she just doesn’t care. She only cares about herself. There is no excuse for her behavior, and I’m so sick of seeing aged used as an excuse for somebody’s actions in honestly anything.

Now do some salt fics take it way too far? Oh yeah definitely. But with all the Lila has done, she can’t just get away with a time out in the corner.”

[plumsaffron]

Super Fandomphobic Lila Part 3

Just another session of an inspired QuesadillaSlam skit

Unfortunately won’t be able to continue for a while.

Yesterday I got Lila’d. And by that, I mean, my day was going alright and then strange crap happened that ruined it and my plans. This is like the third time. It’s a shame cause I was working on stuff that took me a few days to do.

Enough of that though:

Adagio Dazzle Hair (Rockset)

Starlight Glimmer hair or hat (Mythicspeed, Minerjacker)

[fabseg-creator]

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I found these images in Instagram. That presents Marinette/Ladybug, Cerise and Cat Noir in wedding outfits. There is a Zoenette (Zoé + Marinette) scene too.

The art images are AI-Generated images.

I think about redesigning these images in a AI vs Artist style for a near future. For make its better.

But before, we'll see about that in a poll.

The profile of Jhosi_Duni:

I have got the idea of the redesigning project after discovered and watched this video on Youtube:

The Terrifying And Unethical World Of AI Artwork (AI vs Artist)

[noybusiness]

Habitual Lying

It’s official, George Santos is Lila Rossi.

[themattress]

The biggest issue with all of this is that it would have been far more compelling had it been attached to Lila Rossi as she was originally conceived and presented: a regular teenage girl. But now she isn't, she's a professional supervillain of unknown origin with multiple identities and so there's no real reason to care either way about what she seeks to gain in life and how.

The life Lila wants

It's interesting when Lila drops her persona and shows true emotion. Her desire to be admired isn't just a need for attention, she is desperate to be seen as a treasure among society. Lila lies about having everything, but in reality, she has nothing. 

Lila has always been good at getting what she wants through lying and maintaining those lies, but all her adventurous travels and life of fame was still just that, a lie. However, by working for Gabriel, she was able to make a big part of her lie a reality by becoming a model for the Agreste brand, then later an avatar for the alliance rings, allowing her to be recognized by the world and finally obtain the fame she always spoke of, all in exchange for acting as Gabriel's spy into Adrien's life and committing to separating him from those Gabriel considered "bad influences", specifically Marinette.

Naturally, in "Emotion", the moment she discovered from Kagami that Gabriel saw her as a common stone, rather than a diamond worthy enough to go to the diamonds dance, an event where Gabriel invited the rich and powerful along with their heirs and heiresses, Lila felt wronged. Despite not being related to Gabriel, Lila had deemed herself someone who was entitled to be viewed on equal grounds as the prestige's people Gabriel invited, and since her agreement with Gabriel involved being brought into a world of high society, Lila had assumed she was now officially part of that world by becoming an image of the Agreste brand and had to be upheld in the same regard as Adrien, Kagami and Chloe.

The realization that Gabriel never viewed her as a treasure within his company, but rather someone who was no different than a common perfume bottle his company advertised, struck a big nerve with Lila. She detested being treated like someone who could be easily forgotten and discarded. However, it was her ongoing attempts to repeatedly contact Gabriel about going to the Diamonds dance that made her whole mysterious background even more questionable, as we have never seen her show such concern for not being included in something.

Lila's background continues to elude everyone, but her determination to ensure she is recognized as someone who is far more valuable than a perfume bottle or any normal person for that matter, feels like she is actively seeking out a means to escape her true life, whatever it may really be, and permanently become the girl she spoke of in her lies. We may not know much about Lila's true life, but the fact that she always refers to herself as someone who has accomplished so much and is recognized by so many, does leave the impression that Lila has a dislike for her true identity and what little her real life has provided for her.

Added note: No, Lila does not hate Marinette because she is jealous of her life. Lila hates Marinette because she is a threat. Marinette wants to expose Lila and refused to adhere to Lila’s demands to stay quiet and not get in her way, so now Lila aims to ruin her life.

[plumsaffron]

Between Death or Conformation Finale

The melancholic and laughable truth.

[pisoprano]

(Please don’t discourse on this post, this poll is just for fun)

[marinettesaltprompts]

We Can Grow Up Without You (Two-Letters inspired Anti-prompt)

Inspried by a post of @broadwaycutie16

Marinette had snapped one day. She was done with being a hero.

She had a plan all figured out. She would trick Chat Noir into an ambush so that she could take the ring from him. She would trick Lila into thinking that the ring was secretly in space, all while she secretly kept the ring for herself as leverage, then give the Miracle Box to Lila so that she could be "the Ladybug that Paris deserved", one that would also ensure her former friend's misery. With her memories wiped, Marinette could be with Luka, the only person who cared about her, all the while holding onto the ring so that she could go after Lila, in case she ever needed the Wish to ensure Luka remained loyal to her.

Clearly, this was the best plan, an insane Ladybug thought.

So imagine the chill in her blood when a year after she done her plan, she went to go check on the ring, only to find it missing.

It didn't take long for Marinette to find the news about Chat Noir seemingly betraying the new Ladybug, revealing her to the world as Lila Rossi. She (alongside Felix, who was also unmasked as the new Hawkmoth) were both arrested on charges of essentially staging akuma attacks, while the "Chat" that was Lila's partner was revealed to be a Sentimonster in disguise. All the miraculouses were collected by the real Chat Noir, then he too disappeared.

Marinette knew exactly where he went, however.

Snarling, a livid Marinette went to the office tower of Agreste (renamed from the well known Gabriel brand) where Adrien was located, having returned from a month long vacation. She was unexpectedly let in without resistance however, as Adrien was supposedly expecting her.

Smiling an empty smile, Adrien stared at Marinette, sporting not only a familiar ring, but also a familiar set of earrings.

"Hello Marinette, its been a while, hasn't it?"

Naturally, Marinette was anything but polite. She ranted and raved about how Adrien wasn't supposed to have the ring (nor the earrings). She was outraged, horrified, and most of all confused.

Despite not needing any reason to tell her, Adrien obliged Marinette's demand for an explanation and told her his story.

About a month after Marinette went through her plan, Adrien took a lot of time to think about things. What he had went through regarding losing his miraculous, what he had felt at being tricked by Ladybug and Marinette. He wanted to scream and shout, to let go of his anger and blame everyone around him. Yet he had remembered one of the wise things Plagg once said (during a time he wasn't asking for cheese), and decided to reorient himself by focusing on one step at a time. Adrien messed up by letting his guard down around his former crush, but decided to make up for it by going after the new Ladybug, who at the moment was causing trouble for Paris.

Through some detective work (with the help of Max Kante) and using his head for the first time, Adrien tracked down Felix over the course of a week and managed to catch the latter off guard. Stealing the Peacock Miraculous from his cousin, Adrien created a sentimonster to track down the other miraculouses while pretending to be his cousin (to keep Lila unaware), including his former ring and the butterfly miraculous, which Felix had kept in a safe for when he was causing villainy as "Hawkmoth". He also learned from Dusuu the truth about himself, that he was actually a sentibeing created by his mother, and that her using the then broken miraculous was the reason for his passing. Despite the revelation shaking him, Adrien kept going, focuing on one step at a time.

From there, it was easy to take care of Lila (who grew so arrogant that she didn't expect Adrien to have any way to take her down) and get the rest of the Miracle box back. He also managed to track down the pieces of the Rabbit Miraculous and repair it again, after Marinette was able to destroy it.

With all the Miraculouses returned, Adrien finally used the opportunity to finally figure out what went wrong with his former partner and what caused her to give up being a hero.

Through evidence provided by Tikki and Plagg and a little help from the Rabbit Miraculous (through windows in time), Adrien had learned what went from with Marinette and why she had snapped. She saw how other people used her for granted, Adrien included, and how the responsibility overwhelmed her to the point she felt she had to leave.

However, Adrien also saw that Marinette had also ended up blaming other people for why she was like this (despite having other options to fix her problems), including blaming her partner for being supposedly unreliable (when she had pushed him away from helping with her plans or choosing the wielders) and for being unknowingly tricked by the Sentimonster Ladybug (which he admitted was stupid at the time, but he couldn't have imagined a sentimonster posing as a human at the time). Worse still, Marinette had started to blame the people of Paris for being akumatised, refering to them by their akuma names, despite it clearly being Hawkmoth's fault.

It was Marinette's mention of "Chat Blanc" that got Adrien's attention. Through a window in time, he learned of the alternate timeline in which he was akumatized by Hawkmoth, and learned the truth about his father: he was secretly Hawkmoth this entire time. Adrien was traumatised from this, but kept going.

This eventually led to learning of Marinette's plan to quit, having snapped and deciding to leave the fate of Paris in Lila's hands because "that's what Paris deserved".

Adrien spent a whole week going through all the information, every memory, every significant event, every bit of the life of Marinette Dupain Cheng, then another week to take it all in.

By the end, Adrien was horrified, but he was in a way grateful for what he had learned. Adrien felt sympathy for Marinette and why she felt she had to quit, but at the same time he could not condone her plan to leave Paris to Lila, nor her insults towards her former friends and family, especially with how she blamed them for being akumatized. He also realised that he did in some way play a role in her downfall (especially with his flirting and not trying harder to reach out more), and he did feel somewhat ashamed with himself for not noticing Marinette's feelings until it was too late (though given that Marinette had been somewhat possesive of himself with her stalking and attempts to control his love life, maybe it would have been a toxic relationship that was best to not have happened).

With all that being said, Adrien decided he would take matters into his own hands. With the Miracle Box now in his hands and with the Guardianship belonging to him (after threatening Lila with being Cataclysmed), Adrien decided he would make a new Order of the Guardian sect in Paris, with himself as the leader. He would use the recovered Miraculous to make a team that could not only help Paris, but all of France, choosing people that could handle the stress of being a hero since he could pay them for their services. Since Marinette no longer wanted to be the Guardian due to stress, Adrien would use what he had learnt to ensure he wouldn't make the same mistakes as the former Ladybug. He apologised to Marinette, but told her that he would be taking care of the Miraculouses now.

Of course, this all passed through the increasing erratic Marinette's ears. All she wanted were the Ladybug and Black Cat Miraculous back so she could make her wish and bring everything under her control, all while ensuring everyone suffers. Plain and simple (to her broken mind at least).

Adrien, of course, politely refused, since Marinette had no right to them considering her plans threatened the very reality they were in and that she had given up the box to someone untrustworthy. It was only once Marinette attempted to attack her former partner that Adrien transformed (without uttering phrase, having mastered his powers by this point) and restrained the insane former heroine, at which point he gave up being polite and threatened Marinette with ruining her newfound life with Luka. Adrien did not want to do so, but he would if she kept going with her foolish quest. Marinette wanted her peace? Fine. But she would not threaten others into acting the way that she wanted.

"...Screw you Chat Blanc" Marinette uttered, having finally lost whatever mask of sanity she had before, eyes growing increasingly erratic. "Just like last time, you tried to destroy me and all of Paris to get the wish, now you'll do it again because I walked away from you, right?"

"Now that was just a low blow..." Adrien replied tersely, the comment about the akumatization getting under his skin. "But since we are going for low blows, what gives you the right to blame others for being akumatized? Prin-cess Jus-tice?"

"Th-that wasn't real! YOU'RE LYING!" Marinette yelled.

Smiling a sad smile, Adrien pulled out the Rabbit Miraculous, quickly showing a window in time before Marinette could react. With no words being spoken by the Agreste, Marinette could only watch as her former self fell under the sway of Scarlet Moth, having no means to resist the akumatization, being moments away from removing her earrings before the akumatization process was cancelled, not by Marinette's own strength, but by the slim chance of Nathalie falling ill.

"Of course, you wouldn't be so quick to judge others if you remebered being almost akumatized. But you gave up your memories, didn't you? All so you could be happy."

Marinette fell to her knees, having gotten cataconic from the truth.

"You know ... that apology I said to you before." Adrien continued "I don't think I mean it anymore. Not to this version of you at least. The Ladybug... the Marinette that used to be before you was someone I considered a friend, a person that ended up being broken by the responsibilities of things she couldn't handle on her own. Yet at the same time, she tried to push people away because of it out of a belief she had to sort things on her own. Had I apologised earlier, had I tried harder to reach out to her... perhaps this entire debacle wouldn't have happened, and she could have retired in peace rather than in anger. Then again, I'm not the same person I was before. I grew up. But you didn't, did you? You're just someone who has no idea about what Paris has gone through. You only saw the last letter of a broken woman and decided to take her words to heart, laughing at the suffering of those who once relied on her to feel safe against a manipulative man, blaming them for their own akumatizations despite having no control over themselves, feeling like what they deserved was justified despite having no memory of what they did to you. You're just some echo of Marinette, an echo that has no memory of anything except her hate, her suffering, and her desire for revenge. You didn't grow up. You just ran away while getting to enjoy the spoils of doing so. You didn't grow up. You didn't change."

Marinette could say nothing, having gone entirely blank. Adrien called security into his office and had her escorted off the premises.

Sighing, Adrien went to a portrait of his mother and pulled it back, revealing a small mural of photos, the main one being a smiling picture of a younger and more innocent Ladybug and Chat Noir. Adrien did not know if the emotions Ladybug showed in that photo were real, but he would cherish them regardless, even after she was gone.

Adrien left inside the mural a single yellow rose, before getting back to work.