#anti ianthe

[nightcourtlady17]

Mean Fae memes are too funny to me😂

[lifeisabiscuit]

BREAKING NEWS: Tamlin stans blame Ianthe for *checks notes* something she did!

🙄

[ladydeath-vanserra]

mmm. idk about the people who are like "tamlin and ianthe deserve each other" I'm just. I feel like there's a difference between DV situations brought on by unprocessed and out of control ptsd and that of being a sexual predator, u know?

[thecatsaesthetics]

Ianthe and Tamlin are the reason Elain and Nesta were turned into fae. If people claim Feyre is the reason they should go back and reread, because Ianthe already planned to use her sisters against her from the second she appeared on page.

Ianthe and Tamlin both wanted to control Feyre’s behavior and Ianthe choose to use the people Feyre loved the most.

This fandom really loves to ignore what Tamlin and Ianthe did at the end of ACOMAF and how badly they both betrayed Feyre’s trust.

[rockyhorrorgal]

Imagine if the Inner Circle had provided commentary to the events at the Summer Solstice. Rhysand would be so proud of Feyre acting in such a High Lady of the Night Court way and would be gushing over just how beautiful she is. Cassian would be howl laughing and telling Feyre to have dropped Ianthe's stone on Tamlin's foot. Azriel would be silently watching from the shadows with a hidden smirk on his face at the actions of HIS high lady. You know Mor would have been Feyre's cheerleader, hyping her up outshine Ianthe as much as she possibly could. I love the IC.

[achaotichuman]

Ianthe should have been skinned and set on fire.

That’s it, that’s the post.

[shallyne]

Spy Lady of the Night Court

[reblogandlikes]

"Tamlin did nothing to help Feyre under the mountain!"

He sent her away for that very reason. He wouldn't be able to protect her the way she'd need to be. She chose to come back and knew this. Was warned. Any inclination of even knowing her would have her dead. Anyone remember poor Claire? His powers were leashed and he being watched. He sent Lucien as aid. The moment they did have alone was one born of desperation that they both - I repeat, BOTH, succumbed to with him kissing her and Feyre reaching for his belt trying to fuck him. When things got bad, he begged for Feyre’s life and crawled to her through a wound pierced in his heart. He killed Amarantha the moment the curse broke and the opportunity came.

But he did nothing.

Sure.

Why didn't Rhysand just winnow her away? He had the most contact with her alone during that time (though the majority was her drunk as fuck, dressed in scraps and performing as Rhysand’s plaything practically naked for 3 months straight for...reasons. He had the most freedom out of all the HL's. He could have done more. But alas, the plot needs to be moved forward and everything he did is fine now, so...heart eyes, I guess? 😍🤭)

Now, what I'd say is doing nothing is Feyre and Rhysand just standing there as Elain and Nesta were kidnapped from their beds due to Feyre sharing Intel with Ianthe about her sisters. And then the Queens also knowing of her sister. Her sisters who she dragged; practically forced into Prythian's mess and couldn't even keep them protected. They both just stood there as Elain and Nesta were plunged into the Cauldron, essentially killing and remaking them against their will, not even fighting as hard as Tamlin and Lucien did for women they didn't even know.

That speaks more volume to me.

[theriverbeyond]

utterly essential part of any harrianthe dynamic is that Gideon is there even when she's not. her absence is also a presence ‼️

[thefatesofspring]

You honestly can’t make this shit up…

If there’s one thing Feyre & the majority of her crackhead stans are going to do it’s avoid taking accountability & pinning the blame on someone else.

Blaming Tamlin for Ianthe betraying him as well as Feyre might be one of the most delusional things Feyre & her stans have done yet, why the hell Feyre decided to say in the high lord meeting that Tamlin is to blame for the actions of another grown ass adult backstabbing him & her is beyond me!

In that meeting Feyre told Tamlin not to spin the narrative only for her to turn around & do the exact same thing…SPIN THE NARRATIVE!!

[nightcourtlady17]

Fuck Ianthe

[lainalit]

if you drew a venn diagram of how many women intensely hate the female se*ual assaulters in the series like Ianthe & Amarantha and how many women post/like/comment/share the hundreds utm post about how funny/sexy it was that rhysand drugged feyre, touched her non consensually and made her lapdance on him in the first book it would be a circle

[yaralulu]

I don’t know why the fandom,hell even the books,does this thing where it’s constantly trying to blame/say that some characters enabled other character’s shitty actions.

Tamlin abused feyre—>Lucien let Feyre get abused.

Ianthe SA’ed and harassed Lucien —> Tamlin let Lucien get SA’ed by Ianthe.

Papa Archeron did nothing while Feyre hunted —> Nesta let Feyre hunt.

These are just some I see all the time and I’m pretty sure these are all reinforced in the books which is so frustrating.You cannot blame Tamlin’s abuse on Lucien,or Ianthe’s harassment on Tamlin or Nesta for her absent fathers shit.It’s stupid.

Lucien was in an impossible position in acomaf,stuck between trying to help his two friends whilst also struggling with his own shit.He tried to help Feyre,tried to talk to Tamlin and make him see reason but ultimately he is not responsible for what Tamlin did.

Tamlin was being manipulated by Ianthe and had no idea she was interested in Lucien.He didn’t force Lucien to perform Calanmai and he wasn’t present when it happened.He didn’t enable Ianthe and was literally clueless regarding anything that happened between her and Lucien.He is not responsible for what Ianthe did.

The Nesta situation has been talked about to death but ultimately their dad was supposed to be their care taker and he gave up on them.All archeron sisters deserved better and they were all children when their life fell apart.Can we start blaming the actual people who fucked up instead of trying to shift the blame onto other characters like I’m so sick of seeing these takes 😐.

[bxriles]

Watching people in this godforsaken fandom get big mad about Nyxlin is almost as funny to me as watching people get mad about Elaingate/Tamberlain.

[shadowqueenjude]

“You took Ianthe into that cave on Calanmai?” He wouldn’t meet my gaze. “She insisted. Tamlin was … Things were bad, Feyre. I went in his stead, and I did my duty to the court. I went of my own free will. And we completed the Rite.” No wonder she’d backed off him. She’d gotten what she wanted. “Please don’t tell Elain,” he said. “When we—when we find her again,” he amended. He might have completed the Great Rite with Ianthe of his own free will, but he certainly hadn’t enjoyed it. Some line had been blurred—badly.

Ok trying not to cry while writing this... Poor Lulu didn't even know Elain was his mate at this point but after he learned she was his mate, he was ashamed of his sexual assault and didn't want her to know about it until he found a way to tell her. He's faithful to Elain even though she has been avoiding him entirely and was happy to fuck Azriel.😭😭😭😭😭 I need a wholesome Elucien moment where Lucien is telling Elain about completing the rite and his continued SA afterward and how embarrassed and ashamed he was when Feyre caught him chained magically to a tree by Ianthe and I need Elain to tell him how brave he was for taking the duty of Calanmai upon himself for his court, that he shouldn't be ashamed of his SA but that she loves him all the more because he's been through all of that and he's still kind, can still feel emotions. Shit I'm crying 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[ofbreathandflame-archive]

there's something so weird abt the way the conversation about characters like amarantha and ianthe are facilitated. there's just this like taboo that exists around talking about their character doesn't quite exist for male characters in the story at hand even when those characters do similar or parallel things in the story.

it kind of reminds me of the way rhys's experience with sexual assault is talked about in contrasts to character's like nesta or even feyre. its just weird that we have prythian - this ultra-patriarchal society where men are literally chosen by blood to rule - and then this weird abundance of women villains who specifically commit crimes that violently sexual in nature. its just weird to also like...create this dynamic where the most powerful man in the entirety of the planet is 'tamed' by this 'deviant' sexual woman villain. it creates...the taboo. the taboo that exists between talking about ianthe and amarantha, because its very clear that they are symbols and not characters that we can actually ration logic with. like here we have two characters: ianthe and rhys. we see them both leverage this unwanted sexual behavior toward's unwanted parties, but like rhys's sexual assault of feyre is brooding and tragic, while ianthe's is playful and deceitful. there's an utter lack of motivation that exists in ianthe (and amarantha) that doesn't quite exist for other men in the story that commit similar acts.

there's also this built in moral story about 'women in power' that hangs unwritten in the air. i remember seeing a post that compared rhys kneeling to nesta as a kind of parallel to amarantha...and i remember seeing someone send me the post and being like huh???

its like with amarantha - there's also that general lack of motivation and nuance that does not exist with other male characters (see: beron, tamlin, hybern). but the dangerous part of the story is that it subsumes this 'race to innocence' model that uses these sexually deviant women as a way to deflect from the super impossible ultra-patriarchal world that exists in this world. having the 'strongest' man in the world both as victim and ultra-powerful being deflects from the actual power these men actually hold over the women. and we get pockets of this: hybern, illyria, court of nightmares, autumn court. but the story doesn't hold these men accountable. they are this collective 'other' that exists in opposition to this vague idea of progression.

i can't put words into the mouth of people who dislike nesta, so there's that, but i bet my ass, a lot of hatred for nesta stems from this unwritten idea that she's somehow breaking the rules of how women should attain power or behave. and im not saying that in a 'girl power' way for people who really hate her, but in a way that is like panic that she can do whatever she wants without any consequences. its not so much hatred of her actions, but fear she won't get punished. that she could operare without logic or care and not get punished the way we see rhys. or that her actions aren't validated by the man like we see feyre.

so yeah rhys sexually assaulted feyre buuuut it exists forever in opposition to amarantha and ianthe who lack purpose, remorse, or motivation. it doesn't matter the victim, it matters the intention of the perp.

men can be victims of sexual violence, and they can be just as vulnerable and broken as women. the argument is that acotar creates this power-fantasy where women exists as equal oppressors to men, while also operating as forever lesser. it justifies the sins of the oppressive men, but also allows these men to assume innocence in the face of their power.

its like those stories of 'reverse-racism' where there's a fantasy of white people at the bottom and poc being their opressors. or the handsmaid tale effect of white feminism that takes the fear and experiences that woc and bottles them into a fantasy (and i could say more how handmaid's tale is sometimes received, moreso maybe than the writing of the book) that becomes fearsome because of its proximity to white women. its easier to ignore these problems and the realities of them when it doesn't effect their communities.

and that's how we end up with the weird stigmatizing conversations around ianthe and amarantha. these women are pawns that propagate the weird values of the series than actual characters. you can't talk about them in the same we do rhys or tam, or even beron. interesting stuff.