#anti fairy tail

[fairytail-whathesays]

"After temporarily losing his Fire Dragon Slayer Magic, Natsu was able to utilize the lightning from his Lightning Fire Dragon Mode, incorporating lightning onto his body and performing lightning variations of his original Dragon Slayer spells. While in this mode, he also gains a lightning bolt-shaped scar on his right eye similar to Laxus’."

Y'know. Mashima is making it real easy for me to say fuck it and not feel bad about writing characters with multiple powers when he does this for a fire dragon slayer.

Yeah sorry I don't get this at all.

Like, I've long since recognized Natsu as an obvious mary sue and creator's pet, so that makes it easy to recognize Mashima's tactics. It even affects characters Mashima seems to like enough to not ever dumb down to Natsu's level; Laxus is still always held up as definitively stronger than him and capable of things he isn't. So in lieu of shoving him aside for Natsu like he does to everyone else, he does things like have Laxus give Natsu his power to defeat Hades with, or have Laxus adopt Natsu's sayings and techniques.

But this, I truly don't understand. What you are telling me is that Natsu dropped his most defining traits and essentially turned into Laxus, down to the physical level. I don't get that at all; it doesn't fit Mashima's usual style of all lanes eventually converging on Natsu. I don't think it stands as some sort of testament to him changing his ways, not in a million years, but I do think it tacitly fits into his tactics of giving Natsu every good, important, or cool thing he can think of.

[gralunaisland]

as a fan of fairy tail am i the only one that can't continue to watch it because of all the gruvia/juvia scenes?

I really relate to you, my friend. During my last rewatch of Fairy Tail, I actually had to skip through most of her scenes; they were that painful. I skipped her entire introduction fight against Gray in the Phantom Lord arc. I watched enough of her to remind myself of my eternally burning hatred for her and her ship though.

I totally feel you though: I don't think I'll watch FT 100YQ when it comes to anime form because the rampant, blatant, canon gr///via would completely ruin it for me. There would be no escaping it unlike with the first iteration of Fairy Tail.

And I don't think you and I are being overdramatic, as some Pros might say. Do they really want to shame us for being completely disturbed and unamused by a toxic, unhealthy yet heavily lauded and promoted ship? If they want to, that's their prerogative. But it's honestly draining of your mental health to have your eyeballs bombarded by a ship where an abusive woman finally chained up her browbeaten, manipulated, gaslit, Stockholm Syndrome-d victim.

[yamishika]

At this point I’m just hate reading 100 YQ to see in how many more ways it will disappoint me

[marynomi]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!!!

Not to be that person but ft fans need a reality check. I don't remember much of both anime (bc I have short term memory) but let me tell you sth. One piece handles friendship and family tropes wayyyyy better than fairy tail could ever be. I'm a fairy tail fan for 7 years and I have a love-hate relationship with the show. While one piece, I've been a fan for 3 years.

(warning: long rant and weird delivery writing)

I can agree that team natsu is stronger than the straw hat but does that make them well written? Absolutely not. I love natsu but I noticed that his goal wasn't clear. His goal is to find igneel, his dragon father, but the thing is that Igneel is rarely mentioned throughout the story.

"But natsu's goal is to protect his friends" but so does luffy. Luffy loves his friends and wants to be strong to protect them but what makes him interesting is his goal to become a pirate king. In order to become a pirate king, he needs to sail across the world to find the one piece.

Like every arc of one piece, luffy encounters problems such as wanting to help whatever people deserve to be saved because he is a good person and that is his goal. In the end, they achieve it and each of the straw hat has its own character development. Fairy tail on the other hand, doesn't have any goal for the each arc (they have some but not too beneficial)

In terms of friendship, I don't feel like fairy tail focuses on the relationship between characters. I don't know how to say this but one example I noticed is that the interaction between lucy and gray reduces throughout the plot because lucy now is always focused on natsu. I'm not saying it's a bad thing (although it is) but come on now. I know mashima would make nalu the end game but just because lucy romantically loves natsu, that doesn't mean she needs to revolve around him. And I have never seen carla interact with other characters besides wendy and happy. wait, I can't recall any memories of erza and gray interacting just the two of them without natsu but even if they had one, the interaction would revolve around love and juvia. But I do admit natsu & gray relationship and natsu & wendy sibling-like relationship are cute.

A good friendship is what brings the good in each other. The straw hat is so loyal to their crewmates and trusts them with their life after the adventure and hardship they went through. Plus the staw hat have a lot of moments between them compared to fairy tail.

I'm talking about team natsu in general but if I write about the guild oh boy it's gonna be long. I want to elaborate more but I think I need to reread the manga back to recover my memories. Kinda hope you understand what I'm saying.

[merxcurias]

honestly i find it hilarious (thats code for sad. pathetic. awful. literally anything but hilarious) that gr/uvia at its best is a really bad portrayal of an extremely unhealthy dynamic as a joke, and at its worst glorification and normalization or sexual and emotional harassment/abuse

literally who reads or watches ft and thinks "yeah thats cute. lets ignore the abuse and stalking and the use of gray's character as a sacrificial lamb to appease the gr/uvia fans and juvia's character revolving entirely around her unhealthy obsession with gray and just call it tsundere romance. soooo sugoi cute kawaii cuz its normal in japan (not true + racist)!!!!!"

[gajeelenjoyer]

Everyone look at the exquisite art that came from this week's chapter of one hundred years quest

[fairytailoverhaul]

while i work on my page for, for starters, here's one of my most self indulgent point for the rewrite: writing 18 year old natsu as the troublemaker he is to the fullest capacity, gets genuinely arrested several times and almost kicked out of the guild, suffers the consequences of his actions

[jacksonseymour13]

Fairy Tail fucking sucks and is my least favorite anime of all time.

[cubbihue]

Can we see a family photo buut From the anti Cosma-Fairywinkle family? Pleaasee?

Family Photo! This is Irep's graduation photo from Spellementary!

Shortly after this, he had originally planned to go to Anti-Fairy School to finish the rest of his education. Most Fairies tend to split up after Spellementary, to specialize their individual magic, and learn more about their own cultures and worlds.

However, an incident occurred at the Pixies' Academy, resulting in several fairies being severely injured. Even though Irep wasn't there to see it, he was switched from Anti-Fairy School to a private Boarding school instead. Irep doesn't care much for it, but Anti-Cosmo was very bitter that his son had to switch schools.

Bitties Series: [Start] > [Previous] > [Next]

[fairytail-whathesays]

Why do you hate Erza? Is it because she's oversexualized, or is there more to it?

I don't really interact with Fairy Tail anymore so this response is going to be a lot less impassioned than it would have been back in my heyday. In the end, I hate Erza because she's boring.

Fairy Tail being what it is, there isn't that much difference between a fireball and a sword, and Erza really just stands as Mashima's cornerstone writing habits all rolled into one: power of friendship over everything else, Fairy Tail always has it and other people don't, and no real effort put into justifying wins--and therefore the fights as a whole.

The romance with Jellal doesn't help. You go through my blog for two or three minutes and you'll understand that I've always been aggravated by Jellal's ceaseless (and detrimental) presence in the manga and how he's permitted to behave while whining about his sins, which never received the weight they deserved beyond absolving him of them. There's not really much to showcase an attraction or even a star-crossed lovers angle between him and Erza after a while, because all of the tragedy of their romance happened early in the manga and from around the GMG arc onward, there wasn't a real reason why they shouldn't be together if they wanted to so badly, especially since everyone who didn't like Jellal (Kagura and Milliana) were cast as in the wrong.

Like Fairy Tail as a whole, Erza's never permitted to make mistakes, lose, or really look bad at all, and since she (along with Natsu) gets by far the most attention and presence in Fairy Tail's struggles, she gets a large chunk of the aggravation with those issues.

Sexualization is just a cherry on top. Mashima is pretty much the Google Definition of "horny mangaka who can't write with two hands" and the very overwhelming level of sexuality (and how every situation seems to twist to include tiddies somehow) is present everywhere in the manga and with every female character--but it's Erza who is cast as a warrioress and a knight, so when it hits her it crosses with the western world's long-established exhaustion with men only seeming to enjoy 'strong' women if they also look highly fuckable--you know, the 'armor with tiddies' and 'butch action girl wearing heels' problems.

Fairy Tail is a very simple manga, basically.

[gralunaisland]

I stoped watching FT after the GMG ark, I know what happens next and have absolutely no desire to see it animated. Not only bc of gruvia but I felt more and more that Mashima was just tired of the series and was just continuing for the fans. The GMG for me was just the right place to stop, everyone got FT respect and guild back, all the zodiac keys were shown, some baddies got closure and Gray put a stop to gruvia. Everything else could be resolved with extras and movies.

That's a very interesting point, Anon! I hadn't thought about that before, about ending the anime after the GMG.

Really, the arcs after the GMG weren't very good, and they did feel like the story was just being dragged on. (I didn't mind the Eclipse Celestial Spirit arc though because the queen Lucy was at the forefront of it, and it was pretty interesting imo.) But yeah, the GMG arc was really sort of the last arc that felt like true Fairy Tail.

I do think the Zeref story needed an arc for completion, but the way Mashima handled it was pretty poor. I lost interest in it pretty quickly. I didn't only stop FT because of gr///via, but because I was just plain bored at the end of the Avatar arc. Researching the end of the main story was enough for me. I feel like the Zeref and END stuff needed to be resolved within the main anime because of how important it is to the story, but I can see your argument for the movies.

But yes, the best part about the anime ending at GMG would be Gray’s rejection of juvia actually meaning something! Oh to imagine a world where Gray’s consent matters…

Anyway, thank you very much for your patience and for sharing such a intriguing thought with me!

[marinsdoodles]

rewatching the old fop, and these screenshots were super cute, i wanted to quickly draw them out.

[artificial-angels]

doodles from today!!

[patentedsun]

You guys I'm actually crying over chapter 204.5 (which is technically an ad for a certain company we're all boycotting btw) but ignoring the actual ad THE STORYLINE WAS SO??? GOOD???? the Natsu characterization in this was INCREDIBLE (be prepared for intense 100yq hatred) and it portrayed exactly why I fell in love with nalu in the first place....

Summary and analysis below (doesn't incl all the pages btw!!)

We start off with Lucy finding Natsu and Happy at her place, as always.

this is followed by him being like "do you think we'll peek or something" which... 100yq natsu would have... that IMPOSTER...

Anyways while she's taking a bath, Natsu and Happy are browsing around Lucy's room and find a book that stands out. (Btw right next to this book is her diary, 100yq natsu would've gone straight for that). However they end up accidentally destroying it and start panicking. They ask Lucy if they can "borrow it" and Lucy panics at first, saying it's precious and not to touch it, but relents when they say they found it "interesting".

fast forward, we see them worn out after trying and failing to find a replacement copy. ONCE AGAIN, they're doing this because it's something precious to LUCY. Not because they care about reading, or because the book has any value to them, but because they understand it's important to HER. Natsu (and Happy) going the extra mile for things that are important to Lucy is SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART of their entire dynamic.

continuing, Lucy walks into the guild and asks how they're finding the book, they say it's interesting. Lucy gets SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS and starts talking non stop ab the book. Happy asks her why this book is so important to her and...

Y I K E S.

So yeah, they ultimately decide that lying isn't it and they should apologize upfront.

this is so beautiful to me, idk like the imagery of them bowing so sincerely is so.... and like wow MASHIMA seems like natsu IS capable of acknowledging his own wrongdoings and offering genuine apologies. I'm not even talking ab the whole post tartaros situation no, I'm talking about fucking 100yq, where natsu actually physically hurts Lucy and doesn't apologize for it (AND IN FACT ITS PLAYED FOR A GAG)(IMPOSTER!!! NOT MY NATSU!!!)

Soooo Lucy doesn't take it well and runs away.

the fact that they didn't stop their search here. the fact that they EXPANDED it to other towns to try and find her the book THIS IS JUST <3333

Anyways, Lucy returns and reveals dozens of copies of the book...

My heart actually broke for her here because as someone who ig creates stuff as well, it really can be painful to have no audience interaction. And to have a book you wrote bomb like that...ouch... and of course she would've been excited, her best friends told her they found it interesting!!! my HEART. OUCH. and the sheer guilt on Natsu and Happy's faces here 😭 Once again, 100yq would've played this off for a gag...

And they all start bawling (and the ad comes in so I will stop there) but YEAH. THIS WAS SO BEAUTIFUL??? The way she's regretful too, the way they're still trying to apologize and make her feel better I'm :(. This is what makes nalu work and it feels like mashima is forgetting that ab his own work... they're both genuinely good and kind to each other... like not to get sidetracked but there has always been goofy fanservice moments but there were also so many wonderful, emotional, complex scenes with them with depth and maturity and I just feel like that's lacking now. So reading this was like getting punched in the face srsly because wow... THIS is the natsu I know and love ugh .....

[fairydares]

loook i get why the idea of riding the "anti/pro" fandom disk horse makes people gag a little in their mouth and try to opt out entirely, but here's why i went from feeling exactly the same way to taking a firm profiction stance. I've been meaning to make this post for a while.

~10 years ago, I posted a fic for the first time and it got its own harassment campaign. The fic wasn't even sexual, and wasn't going to be (it remains incomplete). It was accurately rated T on fanfiction.net. Anyone in the Fairy Tail fandom will understand this: I literally got harassed for writing a "Lucy leaves the guild" fic💀.

After many nice comments, someone left a pretty nasty one. Hurt, I messaged them back. They acted super attacked that I'd responded (lmao) and after we argued, threatened to "rip my shitty story apart in the comments section" if I responded again. I told them "go ahead lol."

They went ahead.

Now know that it was a relatively small harassment campaign, but at the time, it was devastating. Right around then, I wound up in the hospital. After I got out, I went to excitedly check my fic, and found several reviews saying things I wouldn't repeat to my worst enemy. I was suicide-baited more than once, told "thank fuck you finally abandoned this shitty story, dumb cunt," stuff like that.

There were several accounts involved, and I can't say for sure, but I suspect at least a couple different people were involved, though probably at least half of it was one person.

All the other comments were screeching about how I hadn't updated, mostly. "NO UPDAAATEE WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS TO MEEEE??!!!" was one that stood out after I'd been miserable in a hospital for an extended period of time.

Idk what people think is going on when FT fic authors write this trope, and frankly I don't give a fuck. Because while I was partly writing the story out of some young, cringe feminist rage, I also did genuinely have a real story I was compelled to tell. I was inspired by another, popular fic I loved which used the trope to talk about how trying to shoulder our burdens alone really just hurts both ourselves and everyone who cares about us.

My own story was ultimately going to have similar themes, with more focus on strength, what it means, and in what contexts earning and having it actually matters. In retrospect, no wonder I wound up in hot water, because at the time "Lucy vs. Strength vs. Misogyny" was the FT fandom's Designated Nonsensically Activist Debate™. But that's partly why i wanted to write about it; engaging with the fandom had gotten me thinking about it 🤷‍♂️

Not too long after that, FFNet oh-so-benevolently granted us the ability to delete comments from our own stories (they never took my reports seriously at all, afaik). I deleted all or most of the harassers' comments (may still be a one or two up, and i'm fairly sure there's a couple comments defending my fic from the harassment) without saving screenshots, which I really regret now. I was just so mortified and full of self-loathing about the whole thing that i wanted to forget it completely. Something that had brought me joy at a very lonely, vulnerable period of my life had turned so negative, and i couldn't even tell the people closest to me about it without being made fun of for writing anime fan fiction.

I didn't understand why this happened at the time, but--after a period of trying to forget/bid out of it all with a slight anti lean (a common approach I see people use, and one which I'm not proud of adopting)--I just had to figure out What the Fuck Even Happened There. And I'm telling you, after years of reflecting, wrestling with both sides, and educating myself, that this "status quo of harassment" culture which pervades fandom goes way deeper than you think and comes out of a way darker well than you probably realize. An astonishing amount of this is, quite literally, TERF shit and evangelical shit.

Trying to be in fandom and take a stance of, "Anti/Pro shit? Ew, I'm Not Touching that," is like swimming in a heavily polluted river and being like, "Poison? Cringe. Not me lol."

You might be lucky enough to be in a less-polluted part of the river (AKA a relatively non-toxic fandom, in which case good for you!)...but tbh this rhetoric and peer-signalling will still seep in.

I can't stress enough that pro-fiction, AKA "proship", is the normal, leftist-about-art-and-sex opinion. Pro-ship is against all the horrible things you're against; in fact, pro-ship isn't trivializing real trauma by equating it with fictional trauma, or trying to apply literal evangelical/radfem solutions--which are proven not to prevent or help. Profiction/proship is literally just saying, "Fiction is fiction, reality is reality, and the two don't have a 1:1 relationship. And historically, trying to censor just things we've decided are bad has done nothing but get LGBTQ+ and POCs censored. Therefore, depictions of illegal things shouldn't be censored." That's it. "Proshippers all ship problematic ships," is a brazen lie. Many of them share other fans' disgust for those ships, they just don't believe in censoring fic authors over it.

It is also taking a stand against harassment because--and I hope my own story has helped drive this home--as with all groups who adopt ingroup/outgroup thinking, antis are defined by their tactics, not actual stances on real, serious issues. What happened to me was absolutely a result of anti, "it's okay to 'bully out' anything I just don't like" mindset pervading fandom. In a way, this was the mindset's final form. They didn't even feel the need to cite a reason the trope was "bad" or "wrong"; it annoyed them, and they viewed their own feelings as a valid enough pathway for policing to go right ahead and do so.

In the interest of offering solutions instead of just bitching about problems, I might make a "how to know if you've bought into these types of views"-type post sometime. Also might come back to this and provide some sources/citation.

[fairytailfanatic]

Hot Take: I like Juvia and her characterization

Juvia grew up being treated as the bane of everyone's existence. She is always the reason it's raining and people can't go out. She makes hundreds of rain dolls to try to ward the rain away. All of the mistreatment made her bitter towards the world and other girls that could have the romance she always wanted. That's why she joined up with Phantom Lord, her rain was seen as a remarkable power in the guild so she convinced herself she was okay with it. Then all of a sudden she meets a man that can make the rain go away, the one thing she's always wanted. He acknowledges her strange character quirks that have always been veiled by her rain. Imagine spending your whole life ostracized and then someone appears that sees you as a full person. I would also fall in love. She's a lot because her whole life she had to be so little. I recognize the feeling.

Also I know anti-juvia people will point out that she has all those dolls of Gray, you remember the hundreds of rain dolls she made as a kid? Gray stopped the rain. Gray is the rain doll that worked. I do wish this was more obvious but that's what fandoms are for