#anti anti juvia

[fairytailfanatic]

Hot Take: I like Juvia and her characterization

Juvia grew up being treated as the bane of everyone's existence. She is always the reason it's raining and people can't go out. She makes hundreds of rain dolls to try to ward the rain away. All of the mistreatment made her bitter towards the world and other girls that could have the romance she always wanted. That's why she joined up with Phantom Lord, her rain was seen as a remarkable power in the guild so she convinced herself she was okay with it. Then all of a sudden she meets a man that can make the rain go away, the one thing she's always wanted. He acknowledges her strange character quirks that have always been veiled by her rain. Imagine spending your whole life ostracized and then someone appears that sees you as a full person. I would also fall in love. She's a lot because her whole life she had to be so little. I recognize the feeling.

Also I know anti-juvia people will point out that she has all those dolls of Gray, you remember the hundreds of rain dolls she made as a kid? Gray stopped the rain. Gray is the rain doll that worked. I do wish this was more obvious but that's what fandoms are for

[smokerswifey]

When I first read this when I was twelve I thought that this line was an edgy way of saying I love you .

I was not a smart kid.

Having grown up a bit and rewatched and reread FT a few times it has come to my understanding that Gray Fullbuster is suicidal .

I genuinely do not know how I missed that since he literally tried to use iced shell every season finale but no matter .

The fact that Gray is suicidal and he just said she is my power/will to live hits so fucking hard .

Because it basically means Juvia makes him want to live and if she wasn't there- well I don't even want to think about that 😭😭😭.

Ma boi has spent the whole series feeling he wasn't worthy of living and has been carrying guilt for a fucking decade .

And then this blue haired girlie pops up and relentlessly attacks this man with love and affection and hugs and food, trying to drill into his thick skull that he deserves everything in the world .

And he's finally accepted it .

Accepted that he deserves to be alive .

With his guild.

With his friends .

With Juvia .

He has finally stopped blaming himself for Ur's and Ultear's death and is finally making sure to live his life to the fullest for them .

He has finally accepted he deserves to be happy.

And I love that for him.

And I love him .

[cheesydelphox]

can we please talk about how egregious this glow down was

[fairytail-multishipper]

i’m so sick of seeing people blame natsu and gray for lucy and juvia’s mental health.

i’m so sick of seeing people blame natsu for lucy’s sadness after tartaros and not sticking around for her after she had to break aquarius’s key. HELLO? igneel literally died in front of natsu?! it wasn’t a fun time for either of them, why is her trauma more important than his?

NATSU ISN’T RESPONSIBLE FOR LUCY’S FEELINGS

i’m so sick of seeing people blame gray for juvia’s depression after he went undercover in avatar. look, if being apart from gray causes juvia to physically make herself ill, that’s NOT ON GRAY.

GRAY ISN’T RESPONSIBLE FOR JUVIA’S FEELINGS

stop it

let male characters cope unhealthily just like their female counterparts

[anti-gruvia-blog]

Erza legit encourages Juvia to keep being a disgusting creep instead of telling her to respect Gray’s boundaries.

[sirclowniey]

ill never forgive mashima for what he took from us

srry ill actually never get over this

[captainuranium543]

My thoughts on gruvia

So I wanted to make this post because I've been rewatching gmg recently and I wanna talk about it a bit.

Before I begin I know gruvia is a very polarizing ship so I'll make my own opinion clear, I don't hate gruvia but I also don't think it was very well executed in cannon. If you love gruvia this isn't against you at all, my intention with this isn't a hate post just to look at a weird decision made in gmg for gruvia from a writing standpoint and talk a little about it.

The biggest issue most people have with gruvia is that juvias obsession with gray is taken WAY to far sometimes and ends up feeling more creepy then funny or romantic. I agree with that point but also I do try to keep in mind that gags aren't really meant to be taken seriously. There is a limit to what I can write off as a gag but for the most part early on juvia fell within that limit, from my perspective I tend to take things as seriously as the characters around do meaning if their reaction is mild annoyance, I won't take it to seriously. While their reaction is genuine discomfort, I will. Early on, all of juvias romantic advances/creepy moments had been gags that where within the reasonable range that I could laugh off. This changed though in gmg.

Ok so starting off mid gmg gray has a very serious talk with erza. I disagree with a lot of people on this conversation because a lot of people seem to think this is her tell gray to love juvia. Gruvia lovers and haters alike seem to think this but I really don't see it that way. I think she's quite literally just telling gray to be direct with her about how he feels.

Up until this point because everything has been gags we've never really taken juvia seriously, gray has never had a moment where he has actually acknowledged and confronted her feelings for him and told her how he feels in return. Erza is basically telling him to stop just brushing off or avoiding her advances and just be direct with her, whether you like someone back or just want them to leave you alone being direct is good advice.

It's advice that gray takes to heart as we see here in the final episode of gmg

I really don't understand where people get the idea that erza was saying he needs to accept juvias love because this scene is literally him taking her advice and his answer is "no I don't like this leave me alone please". This would be fine but what happens next is just downright confusing

She just, doesn't care?? I genuinely don't understand why this scene was added in at all if it wasn't gonna matter. Like I said I can write off most gags but this was NOT a gag. Gray had a very serious talk with a close friend where he got the advice to be direct, he had a very serious moment where he very seriously took that advice and told juvia exactly how he feels, why does she just ignore it??? It's such a weird decision to make because it makes all of juvias future advances come off WAY creepier then they did before even when they are just gags because gray has already very seriously told her to stop.

I've heard some argue that gray actually does like juvia he's just afraid to admit it and he's forcing himself to say he doesn't like her in this scene, but regardless of whether he secretly feels something for her a no is a no and it's reaaalllyyy creepy to just not accept that. Hear me out here, what if right after gray did this juvia listened.

She did back off of him and gave him his space, then if you still wanted them to have a relationship maybe gray starts to miss her? Give him some autonomy and room for us to actually see him develop genuine feelings for her rather then having her force them onto him because without seeing Gray's side it just feels one sidedly obsessive. I know people argue he's just afraid to confront his feelings but you need to actually show us that, give him a scene where he's thinking about her or actually missing her in some way when she's not around if you want to show us that gray isn't just being forced into things he doesnt want. If juvia had backed off here I would have probably liked the ship a lot more A) because it would give gray room to develop on his own and B) it would show that juvia has restraint and genuine respect for Gray's feelings even if he doesn't like her the way she likes him.

Rant over, again no hate to gruvia fans. It's fiction I don't actually take it to seriously if you love gruvia live your truth🙏🙏. I like gruvia in theory it's just poorly executed sometimes and I could fix it fr fr

[fairy-without-a-tail]

Why do people forget Juvia is a grown woman? What adult decides ‘yeah, I’m just going to sit in the rain until this guy comes back no matter how long it might be’. Six months! What if it’d been even slightly longer? With no healer, Juvia would have killed herself, and it would have been her fault. It’s not romantic it’s stupidity.

She followed Gray. And it is canonically said that she kept trying to sleep with him (in the bed but I think we all know she probably wanted something more) and Gray had to push her out.

The rain came back because she was obsessed with Gray and made everything about her, him. That’s not healthy!

Not leaving a note was dumb (and a dick move). However with the way she acts, what is the chance she’ll try to follow him? And she couldn’t join Avatar because she’d blow their cover. Gray had personal reasons to join, he had devil slayer magic, he was the perfect choice. Juvia had none of those. And whose to say they’d get any information because Juvia would be possessive (especially around Briar).

I just wish the writers and fans would give Juvia the respect she deserves. Because no one respects her, not really. We can say she acts the way she does because of her trauma and obvious abandonment issues, but how many years will it take of her character not changing until we can say ‘she deserves better’? A love interest that has shown to care about her romantically (and not just shoved in after years), a true friendship with another woman, becoming the powerhouse she was when she was first introduced. If anyone respected her they’d want her character to grow, to change, to become more than just her love for Gray. I don’t like her behaviour towards Gray, obviously, because it’s extremely toxic and creepy, however I also don’t like it because that’s all her character seems to be. I liked Juvia when she was introduced and I thought her little crush on Gray was cute. But it didn’t end. And like I said at the start, Juvia sitting in the rain for six months isn’t just stupid, it’s an insult to her character.

If a guy (or girl) isn’t showing you any interest or not being clear, stop trying to get him to. (And maybe it’s just me, but throughout the series I’ve always registered Gray’s behaviour towards Juvia as a clear ‘no’. Take that scene during GMG, when Erza tells him to be clear…he has been! He has shown no romantic interest. How is it Gray’s flaw if Juvia can’t take a hint or see what’s in front of her? Why is no one telling her that maybe she should cut her losses. If he wants to be with her, he will be. (And maybe it’s just me again, but spending all your time with one person isn’t going to endear them to you. It’s going to smother them.) (For goodness sake, the dialogue in the game even has Gray saying he doesn’t feel like his body is safe).

In conclusion, Juvia is more than her love for Gray and deserves to be seen as such.

[fairytailfanatic]

Antis have been pretty quiet since the power to live ep dropped

[smokerswifey]

Juvia/ Gruvia antis :

Juvia is so horrible, she hates lucy and thinks of her as her enemy and her rival for gray and doesn't even really care about her 😡😡😡😡 !

This whole chapter that shows Juvia's true feelings towards Lucy and how she already considers her a friend despite their recent opposition and even though she still thinks of Lucy as a love rival ( which is a gag btw, if you don't have basic reading comprehension skills ) she still thinks of Luce as her friend and literally sheds tears of joy when Lucy confirmed their friendship as well :

Juvia/Gruvia antis :

Hate Juvia if you want but :

👏Don't

👏Lie

👏About

👏The

👏Canon

[enderglace]

Deadass wish more gratsu fics utilized Juvia’s canon personality more… I mean she literally almost killed like three different girls just for looking at Gray in any way. Literally prime angst material here!

[gralunaisland]

I have a question.

Have you ever thought to yourself or any antis thought to themselves that it’s okay to like toxic ships in fiction?

Mashima never said a day in his life that his ships weren’t toxic and were healthy so idk why yall be so upset that people like these things?

Toxic ships in exist in fiction and real life. I love reading toxic relationships in fiction. I eat it up but I understand that’s not okay for real life.

If you truly want to see toxic relationships in fiction read Korean comics. They have some extremely toxic relationships in their stories and I love them all because it’s only fiction. It’s a reason why things like this exist because people like me exist to read it.

Is It Okay to Like Toxic Ships in Fiction?

Oh, this is a fantastic question, Anon.

I have never said that no one is allowed to like toxic ships in fiction. Ever. In fact, I've said the contrary, where, yeah, even I like some toxic ships (excluding things like p*doph*lia etc.) where people clearly aren't good for each other but it's an entertaining ship regardless as long as you know it is immoral in real life. If you know you'd never support certain toxic relationships in real life, but still like certain toxic characters together, there's not much harm to it.

My biggest issue with the Pro gr///via fandom?

It's that seemingly most of them deny that gr///via is a toxic ship in the first place. That, and some of them will attack anyone who says otherwise.

That's part of the reason why I've dedicated this blog to parsing gr///via's toxicity, to show why so many Antis have issues with it and because there are so many people who refuse to believe that gr///via is toxic in any way, shape, or form.

I've actually talked to Pros who acknowledge that gr///via is a toxic ship, but that they just like it for some reason or another, and I totally respect that because they realize it's a toxic ship. While I hate the "it's just fiction" argument because it's a dreadful slippery slope, all in all, gr///via really is just a fictional ship between two people of the same age.

You say Mashima has never said his ships were healthy, but that doesn't matter, and that's never been an argument that I've made, that Mashima said he'd make healthy ships (which of course he didn't). Most authors don't go around explicitly saying that anyway, so that's another reason why that is a straw man argument.

However, another part of my issue with gr///via is that it's a canon ship, one that Mashima pushes heavily, and it is portrayed as something to be desired.

There are plenty of toxic ships people make up on their own, fanon, where the author never intended for it to be a thing, in which case it's the fans' fault for making up such a thing, but the fact that the author of FT makes juvia a complete scumbag but makes it so that she ultimately gets the object of her desires teaches the very wrong lesson. He also tries to make her pass as a "good person", having everyone love her and cheer her on no matter what she does to them.

If you make a character do very toxic things, but also make them appear good to other people in the show and make it so they never face any consequences for their actions (the worst consequence juvia ever gets from her sick behavior is some sweatdrops from other characters, but no one ever stops her and many in fact encourage her), readers/viewers might get the impression that that character really is a good person, and that their actions should be emulated to get their desired results. Mashima has even apparently said in an interview that Gray is somewhat of a self-insert, so the fact that he gave Gray juvia as his love interest says a lot about what Mashima desires or fetishizes.

"If you truly want to see toxic relationships in fiction read Korean comics."

I have, and that has nothing to do with this conversation. "If I truly want to see toxic relationships", all I have to do is watch Fairy Tail and suffer through every gr///via/juvia scene.

Thanks for your ask!

[idontusethissiteeither]

My thoughts on Gray and Gruvia

Hey everyone.

I’ve been a fan of Fairy Tail for a long time, and one character I’ve always liked is Gray. He’s consistently shown depth, integrity, and a strong sense of right and wrong. However, there’s one aspect of the series that’s been bothering me for a while now: Gray’s relationship with Juvia. Despite all the red flags, uncomfortable moments, and outright toxic behavior from Juvia, the narrative seems determined to force this relationship into something it’s clearly not.

What follows is a breakdown of why I believe this relationship is problematic, how it undermines Gray’s character, and why it’s not the romantic story that some fans, particularly “Gruvians,” seem to think it is. As well as talk about the 180 in Gray’s personality in the 100 Year Quest.

Let’s break down the ridiculousness of Gray and Juvia’s so-called “relationship” after the battle in the last arc.

First of all, after all the build-up, Gray still didn’t give Juvia an answer. Instead, he tried to use the Ice Shell spell—a move that would erase him from existence. It’s a clear indicator that Gray was ready to sacrifice himself for the greater good, but of course, Juvia had to make it about herself. She "sacrificed" herself for Gray during the battle, and this is where the narrative completely goes off the rails.

While Gruvians see this as some grand, romantic gesture, it’s painfully obvious that Juvia’s “sacrifice” wasn’t as selfless as it’s made out to be. Her body can turn into water, meaning the blade could have gone through her without causing fatal damage. But instead, it feels like she deliberately made herself vulnerable to force Gray into a corner, emotionally manipulating him into acknowledging her feelings. And unfortunately, it worked. Gray, being the good-hearted person he is, said he’d take her feelings into account now, which just feels like an obligation rather than genuine affection.

To make matters worse, the creators claimed that the transfusion Juvia gave Gray is the reason he starts falling for her. What? That’s not only ridiculous but also a flimsy excuse for Gray’s sudden change of heart. It undermines all the growth and depth Gray had as a character. He didn’t fall in love with her because he was emotionally or romantically invested in her—he fell in love because of a blood transfusion? That’s not love; that’s poor writing.

And even after all of that, Gray still doesn’t give her a straight answer. He promises to do so after the 100-year quest, which he doesn’t even bring her along for. Yet, fast forward to the sequel, and suddenly, Gray’s done a complete 180. He’s talking about being the best man for Juvia and, apparently, thinking of her when the topic of romance comes up. Really? After years of rejecting her, setting boundaries, and making it clear that he wasn’t interested, we’re supposed to believe that now, all of a sudden, he’s deeply in love with his stalker?

Gruvians take this as a huge victory, but the reality is that Gray isn’t acting out of love—he’s acting out of guilt and obligation. Let’s not forget that Gray has a tragic history of losing people who sacrificed themselves for him, starting with his mentor Ur and later Ultear, both of whom truly cared for him. When Juvia “sacrificed” herself for Gray and survived, it’s not hard to see why he might feel indebted to her. But that’s not the same as romantic love. It’s survivor’s guilt, plain and simple. Gray is putting Juvia’s happiness above his own, disregarding his own feelings because he feels like he owes her something for what she did.

And honestly, if Gray truly is in love with Juvia now, after everything he’s been through and after rejecting her repeatedly, then it’s nothing short of character assassination. The writers have completely twisted his personality to appease Gruvia shippers, ignoring all the red flags in their relationship and pretending like Gray’s long-standing discomfort with Juvia never existed. This new Gray feels like a hollow version of the character we once knew, crafted solely to pander to fans rather than stay true to who he is.

What’s even more frustrating is the lack of discussion around how bad this writing is. Why aren’t more people talking about how Gray’s character has been butchered in the sequel? It’s disheartening to see fans celebrate these new developments when they clearly ignore all the signs that this relationship is built on manipulation, guilt, and toxic behavior. Gray deserved better than to be paired with someone who stalked him for years and ignored his boundaries. Instead, the writers decided to force this unhealthy dynamic into something it never should have been.

[akiravarts]

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[cheesydelphox]

i hate to break it to y'all but mashima is not the all powerful god of writing women that you think he is. the way he wrote lisanna as nothing more as a roadblock to his main c*sh*t couple? misogynistic. the way he's constantly drawing lucy and erza getting tortured and stripped against their own will, chalking it up to fanservice? misogynistic AND creepy. the way he constantly writes wendy into being ashamed of her body (the fact that she has small boobs. which. sir why are you thinking about the boob size of 14 year olds?) misogynistic AND pedophilic. the way he writes juvia to be nothing but completely and totally obsessed with a man? misogynistic. the way he writes levy forgiving gajeel so easily after what he did to team shadow gear? misogynistic. why do people (shounen anime fans, INCLUDING women who are fans of shounen anime) pretend mashima is the gold standard of writing women.

[smokerswifey]

OK this has been on my mind for a while

For the past month, some really toxic graylu shippers and anti gruvia/ juvia's have been getting really toxic on tumblr ( and twitter )

Especially @graylunation ( who is a grown ass woman, her age will be relevant later in this post )

Obviously the problem isn't the fact that these people love graylu and dislike gruvia and juvia .

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and graylu make a good looking couple so tbh I can't blame them .

And them not liking gruvia and juvia for various reasons is not anyone's business at all .

But THE problem is that they have been BOMBARDING juvia and gruvia positive posts with hateful and frankly disgusting comments which is such a pain in the ass because as I said before ppl are allowed to like what they want without being slandered and bullied .

And specifically@graylunation has been the one, bothering us the most, leaving every single gruvia/juvia post with hateful comments and it has been SUCH a PAIN .

The thing that pisses me off the most is that she's a huuuuuuge hypocrite ! She constantly whines on posts, telling ppl to stop criticising Graylu shippers, she tells people that her page is specifically about graylu and asks for no hate comments, when she literally hates on every gruvia/juvia post and goes on gruvia/juvia pages despite not liking it just to harass the person who created the page ! Hypocrital much ??

The worst thing is she keeps calling JUVIA a R@PIST ??? Does she even know what R@PE means ???

This is so unfunny how can you compare a lovestruck girl and her temporary unrequited crush to a r@pist and r@pe victim .

The furthest Juvia has done touching Gray is just giving him surprise hugs and she lets him go when he complains to much, how can someone in their right mind equate that to r@pe ??

And wherever there is a fanart or official art with bby boy Greige she keeps saying Juvia must've had to grape him to have his babies like wtf is wrong with you, his biggest fantasy is starting a fam with her, how delusional could you be .

I can't believe someone would bring up a topic as unfunny R@PE just because you're bitter a fictional pairing you liked didn't end up together like dude you're a grown ass woman, it's time question you're behaviour .

Honestly this woman sucks ASS and i feel rlly bad for other Graylu shippers being associated with such a wackjob .

This whole ordeal has been so annoying and I hope it stops .