#anti clara oswald

[bee11037]

Im not a fan of clara either and struggle to understand why shes so popular. It feels like the show wants me to think shes the greatest companion ever, they make her too special but shes whatever the plot needs her to be at any given moment. Her introduction also frustrates me and the weird flirty thing in 7b really puts me off especially after everything with river last season. It feels forced.

i don't think it's right that my initial reaction reading this was

But seriously, YES! this has always been the cause for my disdain against Clara. I 100% agree, she's brought up to be this larger than life character that is actually just really flat.

The only time I actually enjoy Clara is in series 9. Not just because she dies but because she's actually interesting. I get that for her to have become that way she 'needed the other seasons', but did she?

The impossible girl plot is honestly interesting on paper but done so blandly. Like, it would have been amazing!... In a comic. Not just because of the advantages in language to express the extent of Clara's echoes, but simply the writing and characteristics of Clara is too one dimensional for the show. Episodes like Cold War and Nightmare in Silver that are kinda supposed to be Clara's shinning moments end up being very boring. They have very interesting concepts and performances, but truly she makes them feel dull and repetitive.

Her banter with each Doctor is also quite repetitive, but that could just be me finding more excuses. But it feels like every scene with her is the same.

Prior to series 9 my favorite Clara episode is probably Day of the Doctor, but she's honestly quite forgetable in that.

And more than anything else, I hate her flirting with 11. And that's not just my River Song corrupted mind talking. In some novels like Rebellion on Treasure Island, they explore Clara's attraction to the Doctor, both emotionally and physically. And I honestly think they do a good job. I get that it hard to do that on screen, but the way it's written it just feels wrong and out of place for the Doctor.

In series 8 and 9 I do guess I understand why people continue to ship them, but it never clicked in me. Clara to me is too special, even when she isn't the impossible girl. She did bring out some incredible things from the Doctor and she was honestly an interesting character in series 9, but when it was just her and the Doctor, Clara was so dull.

Honestly, she was just plain annoying to me. When she was darkened by Missy and the Cybermen in series 8 that really brought out what could make her shine, but to me, then she just became a normal companion.

Unlike other companions, I never received a sense of awe and aspiration from Clara (aside from when she gets all giddy in Robots in Sherwood), I felt like we never got to feel her other than when she was gushing over the Doctor, tired of the Doctor,

And yeah, most companions do most of not all of that, but with characters like Victoria, Tegan, Ace, Rose, Martha, Sarah Jane, Romana, Yaz, Amy, Jack, Rory, River, ect. they had goals and aspirations, things that made them not just keep going but keep growing. Clara was just for the Doctor.

To me, she was a flat vehicle for the plot that ultimately left a mark on the character of the Doctor but was just as easily forgetable as she became in the series 9 finale.

[ebenelephant]

oh it's so bad but all I remember from late 11/early 12 era is that I really disliked clara. don't know why, just did.

[readitwatchitwriteit]

Personally, I never cared much for Clara. I think it would have been more interesting to see more of River or Bill. They both brought more interesting things to the scene and to the doctor's personality.

[cag3dsong]

Probably gonna add a dni to my pinned post as I come back to doctor who and it's gonna be: dni if you write Clara Oswald. Multi's will be an exception but I just really do not like Clara and have no interest in interacting her but also Clara muns don't have to deal with my dislike for their character either???? I'm sorry if you like Clara but there's so many reasons I dislike her and this is the only way I'm gonna not get annoyed 🤣

[ghost-bison]

Doctor Who - Opinions

-the ninth doctor was the best. no one will ever be as good as he was

-same for donna, best companion, no one will ever compare

-imo 9th > 10th > 12th > 14th > 11th > 13th (dunno about 15th yet, haven't seen enough of him)

-donna > rose > jack > martha > nardole > bill > river/clara > rory > graham >>>>>>>>>>>>>> amy (idk about yaz and ryan I honestly dont see any distinctive personality traits apart from the fact that ryan is always complaining and generally unpleasant)

-ninerose >>>>>>>> tenrose

-clara is a cool character, it's just her plots that made people dislike her

-i don't get the obsession people have over thoschei. or the master in general and his relationship with the doctor? apart from missy and twelve ofc

-i could never warm up to amy, nor do i get how people can like her. she was abusive, not a girlboss. didn't deserve rory

-i have mixed feelings about river. like obviously, slay my goddess, but also, she's everything that's wrong with moffat's writing of women? she's actually dependant and praises the doctor and never makes a decision for herself? never questions the doctor? that's not ok

-idc how good moffat's storylines get, i'll choose rtd any day. i'll refer you to this post as to why.

-chibnall's era feels flat. i don't hate 13, she's adorable, but I used to laugh and cry several times an episode during the first ten series. now it's like twice a series if we're lucky.

-i liked the campy effects way better than the disney-style expensive cgi they now use to try and balance out mediocre writing (I'm sorry but wtf was that Space babies episode and how did they manage to make it even more cringe than the series one Slitheen two-parters?)

[nicholasmoorethetwittermigrant]

There’s something very funny about Doctor Who suggesting that tumblr will be outdated by 3, maybe 4 generations come 2049.

[sprnklersplashes]

me whenever someone compares ruby to rose tyler: oh my god shut up shut up SHUT UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP me whenever someone compares ruby to amy or clara: OH HOHOHOHO *rubs hands together gleefully* YES YEEEEEEESSSSS YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[khruschevshoe]

Just rewatched The Girl In the Fireplace for the first time in about nine years and Steven Moffat really read the Time Traveller's Wife one time and decided that every single woman companion he was going to write on the show (with the exception of Bill, and since she's a lesbian, she literally couldn't fall for the Doctor) was going to meet the Doctor as a child and then fall in love with him later on, didn't he? Reinette snogged him when she met him as an adult. Amy snogged him the day before she was getting married. River had, well, every single thing about her arc, birth to death. Even Clara, after being introduced as just friends, is revealed to have met the Doctor as a teenager and then is revealed to fancy him in the regeneration episode. Like, it's an absolutely bizarre and a little bit uncomfortable recurring plot point that these women met a man briefly as a child, imprinted on him, and fell in love/had a sexual interest in him/were obsessed with him as an adult, making large portions of their lives from childhood revolve around this man. Like...a bit of a yikes.

[layaboutace]

Danny pink was such a cool concept and i really liked his ending but like, did he and clara even get along? they argued more than they didn't, i feel like he could have been fleshed out a lot more. danny is at his best in what i think is a pretty bad episode, in the forest of the night, but here we see him as a teacher, responsible for his students and not even knowing about the doctor for some point in the beginning of this story, talking things through with clara and being a generally fun character to watch. on the other hand i think hes at his worst in a great episode, listen, where all he does is argue with then proceed to forgive clara for being insensitive, not to mention that he himself is rather annoying in this episode, the dialogue he and clara share over dinner feels off and not realistic, for how great this episode is that date scene really just holds it back in terms of characterization for both clara and danny, after that I'm not sure why they're even together

[bee11037]

Istg I just have to say this because in the back of my mind if Carla being an anagram for Clara comes back at some time I with fucking kms

[the-kestrels-feather]

I also just kinda can't stand Clara with 12. She was *better* in the later episodes but still gets on my nerves IMMENSELY. And like I KNOW it's not Jenna Coleman's fault because she was great in Sandman, so I'm blaming Moffat.

[tenubrium]

we sit in clara’s perspective for too long in the 8th season of doctor who

she doesn’t like the doctor enough for me to care about her love life

[thefiresofpompeii]

continuing yesterday’s discussion, the only card-carrying hypocrite in this house is, apparently, me. why do i resent how river (and to a lesser extent amy) are written to have their whole lives revolve around the doctor, but it’s completely fine by me when clara’s whole life does too? no idea. drawing from my own previous opinions i should hate the impossible girl arc. however, for some inexplicable reason, it fascinates me in a way the others didn’t. after all, consistency doesn’t really matter when discussing a show that doesn’t value it

but i do have an answer of sorts. the fact remains that clara’s s7b arc is not gender specific. she could have, in a hypothetical gender-neutral world, been the impossible boy, and nothing would have changed plotwise (the touches of sexist attitude towards her bear no relevance on the narrative). amy, on the other hand, with her schroedinger’s pregnancy, marriage dilemma (‘should i take my husband’s name?’) and ‘love triangle’, as well as river’s highly sexualised ‘wife’ role, are gender-specific and therefore misogynistic. yes, you could say that being the impossible girl makes clara a “manic pixie dream girl”, unrelatable to the average viewer and a Walking Plot Device, predestined by fate itself to meet the doctor, etc etc, but that doesn’t fall under sexism, and it’s not out of place in a series in which moving the story forward takes priority over anything else. nobody says this stuff about rose, despite her bad wolf impossible goddess of time arc being in fact quite similar! tl;dr obviously i haven’t gotten to later seasons yet, and my thoughts on her might change, but for now i stand by clara oswald. her arc coheres. her unreality makes her real

[billgavemeextrachips]

I just discovered this and it’s perfect.

[forestwaterfalls]

it’s not easy being an anti moffat who loves clara but someone has to do it <3

[casasupernovas]

'dark water' is...an episode. i talked about it before, but what clara does stands out so much to me, not because of how her grief drove her to it, but because she's probably the first modern companion to treat the doctor like an 'it.'