#anti chat noir

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The Adrigami Breakup Was Hot Garbage.

This is the episode where Adrien and Kagami break up. The reason why they broke up is because Adrien is Cat Noir and will always have to hide things from Kagami, and she's not having it. It's an episode about how the job of a superhero demands sacrifices, about how Adrien lost his girlfriend to his duties.

But this entire thing falls apart due to both Adrien and Kagami acting from out of character to infuriating. Adrien isn't actually shown to face these struggles as Cat Noir. We don't see him "being a responsible superhero" he's just goofing around and getting Ladybug's attention.

Adrien: Finally! Free at last! Plagg, claws out!

And here when Ladybug doesn't show up to their daily patrol:

AdriCat: So, Mr. Banana! Life's peachy, huh? *gets ignored*Peachy? Banana? Get it?.. Forget it.

AdriCat: So! Mr. Ramier! It's been a while since you were akumatized, right? Kinda miss being Mr. Pigeon? You haven't been feeling depressed? Or desperate? Or angry? Annoyed maybe? Not even a little perturbe?

Mr. Ramier: Thank you for asking Cat Noir but I am in the best of spirits, really!

This is the face Adriem makes after he says he's feeling good and isn't gonna get akumatized:

AdriCat (disappointendly): Well I guess I'm out of here then.

Mr. Ramier: Say hello to the lovely Ladybug for me!

AdriCat: Sure thing! If I ever see her.

Literally, this entire first act is establishing that Cat Noir is sad and lonely without Ladybug to the point where he wants people to get akumatized. Like go back and watch the episode this is insane.

Only after that we get to Kagami. And the relationship is.. off. Kagami lies to both their parents to buy her and Adrien time alone in the art room. She asks him to pose for a sketch, he makes a couple model poses, and the bullshit begins.

Kagami: These are all modeling poses. Try something that's more neutral, more you.

Adrien: What about – meow! *Makes a Cat pose* I mean, now? *nervous chuckle*

Kagami: No. You're not at all neutral.

Adrien: Yes I am, I promise. This is me.

Kagami (intensively): No. That's you when you're being silly.

She's downright rejecting his true self and being a control freak. Where did this come from? They used to crack jokes and have genuine fun together (ie Desperada). This is extremely out of character. But it's not over..

Adrien: What if when I'm being silly, I'm really me?

Kagami: *Gets up closer to gently make him pose*

Adrien's expression is.. um-..

Kagami: There. This, is really you.

Adrien: Do you really think..

Kagami: Yes. You're... perfect. *Leans for a kiss*

What does this scene tell us about their relationship? It tells us that it's toxic, that Kagami is controlling, doesn't care for Adrien's boudries and refuses to see who he really is. Which as I mentioned, goes against her characterization in previous episodes.

After whatever that was Adrien keeps getting called to his duity as Cat Noir. This back and forth continues for a while. But as we established, it's not a meaingful sacrifice to leave Kagami because being a superhero is just professional (and not so proffesional) playtime for him. And the episode keeps on reminding you that all throughout. We cut from Kagami being alone at a party they were supposed to go to together, to this:

AdriCat: Ma'lady, it's been a while since I had this much fun.

Ladybug: *Laughs* If battling a super villian with 3 eyes and a giant monster budy is your idea of fun, I can't imagen what your other days are like.

And in the same conversation:

AdriCat: You can count on me, and my jokes, Bugaboo!

Ladybug: Well, you don't have to over-do it.

AdriCat: The truth is, I only ever have this much fun when I'm with you.

And then he comes back straight to Kagami like nothing's wrong. She confronts him about his lies to her and gets akumatized.

Even when he fights Akumatized Kagami to save her, they still make a point at showing you he's having fun.

AdriCat: I can't wait to see what you're gonna do with a drone.

And his reaction after Ladybug confronts him about sacrificing himself:

Ladybug: Seriously you've got to stop doing this to me!

AdriCat: Yeah, but I can't resist this angry little pout of yours when you bring me back.

Excuse me?

And then, I am not kidding, while still being with Kagami, this happens:

Adrien: *Stares into the sky* Oh, Ladybug...

Plagg: Aww how romantic! I get it, even if I do love every cheese on the plate, I always come back for my favorite.

After fencing class they have the conversation. The break up is caused by Kagami not being not being able to trust Adrien. And this is how thw show, including Adrien himself, frames it too.

AdriCat: You know the difference between us and the rest of the world, ma'lady? We can't be completely honest with each other. We keep secrets, and sometimes we have to lie.

Okay, let's sum everything up:

He emotionally cheats on Kagami and is willing to admit it out loud with no shame.

He loves that subject of infatuation so much to the point where he's openly sad about monsters not attacking Paris.

Shows no remorse to leaving his girlfriend every time they are together, and very explicitly enjoys his time with another girl he's in love with.

At the end of the episode him and the writers push all the bs under the rug and claim Adrien is just following his duties.

....Wow. I remembered Lies being a terrible episode for Adrien but it wasn't until I watched it again that I've realized how much Adrien sucks. I am trurly baffled. Top tier character assassination.

And let's not forget Kagami. What the hell was that? Why did she act like that? Why all the sudden she's toxic and controlling?

Well, all of this nonsense is done to serve a very obvious not-so-hidden hidden agenda: Ladynoir good, Adrigami bad. The writers pretended to tell a genuine story about the duties of being a superhero but couldn't help but sneak in this horseshit. They essentially wanted you to subconciously pick up on what this episode is really trying to say: Kagami doesn't know Adrien's true self, she forces him into the "perfect role" and is incompatible to him. While Ladybug knows his true self. Therefore, Adrien can only be happy with Ladybug.

Kagami isn't controlling and incompatible to him. But that didn't matter to the writers, they have a message to put out. They had retcon her characterization to create a contrast that didn't really exist.

And this applies to Adrien too. He needed to be happy to leave his girlfriend to push the... "message". He needed to emotionally cheat on her like he did to push the message. He sacrificed himself so it would show his so-called love for Ladybug. He wanted people to get akumatized so he could be his true self with his beloved Ladybug. But all of these things don't make him to be compatible with her and destined to be with her, they make him an a$$hole.

And I'm not gonna buy into this message they snuck in there with retcons and infuriating behaviors.

[empressofthesunslittlecorner]

First Post: Let's talk about Isekai'd as Chloe

Isekai'd as Chloe is my most commented, faved, and followed story on nearly all my fanfiction platforms.

I can't believe this random idea I had someday had such a success.

The people under you who read the last chapter know that I have currently a love/hate relationship with it.

Under read more I will post what I wrote in the latest chapter in the author note and then we will talk about it a bit more.

This a short chapter because I wanna end this story soon as possible. This thing is my most read, commented, fave, and loved story, but I’m starting to hate it.

Do you wanna want to know why?

My other stories, who I write with the same passion, who I do the same thing, don’t get nearly enough attention!

AND I SEE THAT PEOPLE READ IT BUT NO ONE COMMENTS.

ONLY A FEW AND THAT’S AGAINST THE CLICKS I GET A JOKE!

And for this stupid crankish story a pulled out of my ass I can’t save myself from attention.

Not that I’m not thankful a part of me still loves this story and wants to give you an awesome journey to the end.

I’m just so tired and sad. T_T

I do the same work with all my stories, I write the same way, why is only this one loved and the others ignored?

I’m doubting my skills as a writer.

I’m doubting my own ideas.

I’m doubting anything.

I’m sorry that I’m unleashing this all to you, I just need someone to listen, to understand, to hold me, and maybe tell me what I can do to get comments on my other stories.

I’m just so tired and done with this story.

Some part of me wants to delete it and never work on it again.

But I also worked so hard on it.

I just wished my other stories would get the love they deserve.

Writing for yourself is nice, but when you see all the clicks and no comments you just want to cry.

Again sorry that I got so emotional, but I needed to get it off my chest.

Please enjoy this chapter, even if it’s short.

Maybe one day I will add a bit more to it when I feel better.

Right now, I just wish we were already at the end.

Happy reading my loves and again sorry.

Yeah, that's basically how I'm feeling right now with this fanfiction.

I still don't get how one of my fanfics can have such success and the others THAT I WRITE IN THE SAME WAY, WITH THE SAME PASSION just don't get recognized.

I see the clicks I get on any of them, but where are the comments?

Nowhere!

Comments are the lifeblood for us writers, we need them to see that our story is loved and cherished or else we start to doubt ourselves and think yeah, maybe I'm not a good writer, and my ideas are shit, and stop writing.

What is so hard to even write a good job?

It barely takes five seconds!

I always comment on the fanfic I read even if it's just one sentence. If I don't comment for a while it's mostly because I lost interest at the moment in the fandom of the fanfiction and read other things.

But when I return I leave again comments.

Come on people, it can be that hard to comment on a story you like!

It guarantees you that your favorite story gets updated and also finished, anything we want from fanfiction.

How many stories, so beautiful and amazing stories, are unfinished because they didn't get the comments they deserved?

Too much, in my opinion.

So as a writer and reader let me tell you, please comment!

Everyone wins!

Authors get their happy bust to write more and complete the story and the reader gets more of the story they love.

I can't see a problem with it.

Well, this is it for me for now!

Until next time and please...COMMENT!

[iveoy]

finally got around to finishing season 4 and starting watching season 5 (after not watching for a year or two) i’ve missed them 🥹

[angelshizuka]

How some people are capable of looking at a teenage boy crawling away in absolute terror from his own father (who's literally in the middle of physically, mentally AND emotionally abusing the superhero he now knows is his own son) and still think Adrien's the problem is totally beyond me...

It's like some of y'all WANT to victim blame.

[lc-holy]

Wedding

[strangeandhollow]

Part Ten

Nino is a Lukadrien Stan

Part Nine / Part Eleven

[gryficowa]

Let's be honest, Marinette and the rest of the characters put more effort into trashing Chloe herself than into actually helping (And they still have the nerve to say they were trying to help when in reality all they said was "Be nice" and nothing else, it's a strong attempt to avoid making an effort to help, which the person needs)

Yes, I'm pissed, that's why there are so many posts, but seriously, the fandom still believes that the characters tried to help Chloe and it's all her fault because she didn't accept "Help", too bad it wasn't even help (This song fits so well)

Yes, I get annoyed with people in the fandom who say that the characters tried, it's bullshit, they didn't do anything to help her (And that's why they put more effort into destroying her than actually helping her), and empty words are things anyone can say

[red-balloon12]

Hot Take:

We can argue about Chloe’s “scrapped” redemption forever. But I think Thomas and his thoughts towards Chloe about parental abuse should be talked about MUCH more.

[darkcrowprincess]

Lukadrien thoughts:

Just let these two disaster bi boys with daddy issues just run away with each other.

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you!)

[flower1622]

These couples:

remind me of these ships:

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A List of Ways in Which Adrien Agreste Was Wasted & Assassinated

–– Was treated as a mere sidekick despite the show being about both Ladybug and Cat Noir. Here's a chart made by @//shirabarchen1 on Twitter. It is not mine. It shows the screen time of Adrien, Marinette and the rest of the cast from season 1-3:

(HUGEEEE shoutout to the og creator)

–– Was direcly and indirecly mocked by Ladybug and the show. His abilities were under appreciated, and at times were the subject of mean spirited jest.

This happened in the episodes: Timebreaker, Dark Cupid, The Puppeteer, Princess Fragrance, Despair Bear, Zombizou, Anansi, Style Queen, Malediktator, Chameleon, Gamer 2.0, Reflekdoll, Party Crasher, Ikari Gozen. That's a total of 14 episodes.

–– Ladybug is the only one who gets to meet up with Master Fu, give people Miraculouses and know their secret identities.

–– In season 4, when it was finally pointed out how Adrien is being left in the dark and is not an equal to Ladybug, his character was Assassinated. He became obsessive and controlling over Ladybug, when innocent lives were at stake. He was being unreasanble, when Akumas were on the loose. And his motivarions were rooted not from being mistreated, but from his selfish love from Ladybug. He acted entitled and arrogent at serious situations where innocent lives were at stake.

This happened in the episodes: Lies (explanation here), Sentibubbler, Glaciator 2 (by not moving on after dedicating a whole episode to it), Hack-San, Kuro Neko, Risk (explanation here), and in Stike back he gets a "heartwarming" scene comforting Ladybug.

–– Despite season 4 giving him an "arc", their screen time is still nowhere equal. Again using the chart by @//shirabarchen1:

–– If you wanna make a point that in season 5 they were treated as equals (we're still not sure about screen time), this is just his lack of consequences from his embarrassing & negligent behavior in season 4. And the finale disproves this anyway. It did not get better in season 5.

–– In the two part finale of the arc that is completely centered arond his family, he was locked up in a room for no apparent reason.

–– The main antagonist for 5 seasons was his dad, and he never found out. Which is not only set up for his character that we have been waiting for for 8 years with no payoff, but it doesn't make sense. Wouldn't Ladybug tell Chat Noir who Hawk Moth was? She doesn't know he's Adrien.

–– Said villian's motivation was Adrien's mother's death. We don't see them reunite. And think of the situation from his pov. His mother was dead for a year, now she's back. What does he think happened? (Which also ties into my last point).

–– Was the subject of a cheap plot twist done solely for shock value that breaks continuity and doesn't enhance his character in any way. In fact, it might have made it worse. Why does he need a different motivation to not being able to confront his dad? It used to be a natural response to his trauma. Now that depth is stripped away except not really? It made his character really confusing. And this twist is contradicted by the show: 1) Adrien snuck out to school in civilian form in Origins, and 2) Wouldn't his dad feel his sentimonster suddenly disappear once in a while for 5 seasons? I can go on and on and on but I made my point.

–– He didn't discover he was a sentimonster. I don't care for "what he deserved". It's yet another example of the story taking Adrien and withholding a satisfying reveal/arc.

–– Even after 5 seasons Adrien is yet to crack 3 jokes (correct me if I'm wrong). The fact that Cat Noir is his true self remains very underdeveloped.

Before wrapping this up, I must voice a concern. In the first 5 seasons, the main conflict was about his family, now, in the next arc, the main conflict is about Lila – Marinette's enemy. If this is the treatment he got while the entire story revolves around him, what will happen when the story doesn't revlove around him? Now he has no connection to the main conflict. I am comcerned.

[lighthousegod]

Originally did those for improvement purposes but I like both. Chat blanc was done in 2021

[miraculousdeservesbetter2024]

It’s just so bizarre that Thomas really wants us to care more about a school bully traumatizing Marinette than a full grown gaslighting butterfly adult terrorist who basically FORCED her into the hero role, just because he was a sawd babu who wanted his wifiey back…by manipulating everybody’s emotions and taking an advantage of them. That especially included children and his OWN SON.

[spooky-donut-ghost-house]

Realized I treat HH and HB the same way I treat MLB MHA and AOT

I like the characters and the concept but the creators are terrible people and they suck ass at writing so I end up rewriting it and making it my own thing

[inimoo]

marinette as cat blanc sketch 🕺

[hi-there-buddies]

I did this in two hours so forgive the sloppiness but I’ve come to the realization that the reason people don’t make agent venom fanart is because it’s a pain in the goddamn ass✨✨

Anyway here is Chloe Bourgeois as Agent Venom because I’ve been thinking of one of the many Spider-Man AUs of miraculous, and Flash Thompson is basically the character arc everybody wanted for Chloe before Astruc cast her character to hell❤️