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red-balloon12 · 9 hours ago
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Even though I’m not a fan of most of these genres (hi hello I am black-) I’m not going to discredit their importance by saying they are the worst.
99.99% of rap haters have never even listened to rap. or if they have it's like one gangsta rap song & they treat the genre as a monolith and act like it's representative of every rap song ever. and well of course they are also just racist
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red-balloon12 · 2 days ago
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This is so cute! One of my favorite canon divirgent tropes is having Chloe be apart of the friend group and all of them doing silly stuff together. It reminds me of that one “Tongue Tied” animatic.
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Excited to share my @mlsecretsanta gift for @annieisyourfavourite ! <3
In terms of my drawing capabilities, especially with humans, this pushed me waaaaaay out of my comfort zone- I had to redraw poses a bunch, I tried multiple different ideas, and I tried drawing them as their superhero personas initially, but in the end I decided on a simpler sleepover concept! This is one of the largest pieces I’ve done so far and though I know I still have a lot to learn when it comes to drawing people, I’m still very happy with the final product! I had a blast and I learned a ton from this piece :)
I hope you have a wonderful holidays! 💕☃️
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red-balloon12 · 4 days ago
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The fact that all it took for her to fold in front of her own class was Carmen just showing up is crazy. She’s sapphic, your honor.
julia argent, you goddamn lesbian.
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in the best way possible, this girl is a dyke. like- come on. she meets a hot stranger on a train and immediately folds. the fact that she's a super thief and her job literally requires her to capture her means absolutely nothing to this girl. if anything it means she's even more determined to clear her name.
one interaction and it was all over. the only thing she cared about in this moment was explicitly clarifying that the "partner" she was traveling with was "not romantic at all no sir i am super single and not dating anyone at all not that it's important" you don't fool me.
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red-balloon12 · 4 days ago
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Not to repost again but I JUST saw someone saying the exact same criticisms on Vaggie as if this post didn’t exist- Like holy shit tell me you don’t listen to other people without telling me.
I feel like a lot of people don’t totally understand Vaggies character and think Vaggie was just created as an accessory to Charlie.
the reason Vaggie is so loyal to Charlie is because she feels like that’s her only purpose in life.
Vaggie is an exorcist, and exorcists were only created to serve Heaven and obey Adam. Basically she’s been told her whole life that she was only created for one purpose: to serve. It’s not easy to undo what you’ve been told literally your entire life.
Of course Vaggie is going to serve Charlie. She literally feels worthless if she doesn’t. I hope this can be an arch for Vaggies where she realizes she can have her own aspirations and goals that don’t match with someone elses.
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red-balloon12 · 5 days ago
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F’s in the chat for Nino Stan’s. (S5 really did fuck up everything huh?)
Hot take of the day: Chloe Stans have it the roughest of all <insert character name> Stans. There, I said it.
Go to canon and their fave is done dirty. If y'all think having a flood of saltfics for your fave is rough, at least you can reassure yourself none of it is real. Chloe stans don't get that luxury. Canon feels like a salt fic featuring their fave, unrecognizable from who she was from S1-S3.
Go to fandom and almost everyone talks shit about them as if they're the only ones with vocal toxic stannies among them.
Not helped when A$$truc pretty much encourages this by talking shit about them too. True, he may have had a bad experience with them, but I highly doubt it's only the Chloe Stans sending him hate mail over his writing choices.
Let's face it, every group has their share of rotten apples. It's just that the more popular a character, the more likely it is and the worse they typically are. For every complaint I've seen about a Chloe Stan, I can think of a time a Marinette Stan rubbed me the wrong way.
It's one thing to see people talk shit about a fictional character, it's a whole other ballpark to see people talk shit about a group of real people who just happen to like the same character as if their bad apples represent them as a whole.
They get generalized with all kinds of shit like being called abuse apologists when really, from what I've seen, they're THE most vocal against child abuse. Most Chloe stans and Chloe neutrals I've seen and gotten to know wouldn't be caught dead saying anyone deserves child abuse.
The few instances I've personally seen people say a character deserves child abuse, it's typically aimed at Chloe. Those same people also love to preach about being against abuse. Please. Think harder. Someone acknowledging some fictional brat is abused in a story is not the same as someone delegitimizing your own bad experience. Ugh I swear some of these people act like it's a personal attack to say Chloe is a product of her environment.
The way I've seen certain sides of the fandom talk about Chloe Stans, it's like they're the plague of the fandom. Ignore the other toxic sides of the fandom that Stan someone else. Don't listen to people with valid criticisms of the show because chances are Chloe's gonna come up at some point and that makes what they have to say as invalid cause it's friggin Chloe. They're abuse apologists for pointing out a bad person can be in a cycle of abuse.
I dunno man. Maybe it's just the misfortune of having their fave be the first on the chopping block that gained them this rep. They're the first to get vocal with their complaints after the Chameleon salt flood. When really, Chloe's arc just the first big red flag on how character arcs are gonna go: all that build up leads to nothing. It's a pattern my cynical butt has noticed. The Chloe Stan experience of being disappointed in what canon wrote her to do is now a universal experience. I'd thought that'd give more room for empathy but I guess not. Not when canon gives them just enough copium by them not being completely malicious.
They seemed delusional for getting upset their fave didn't get the redemption they wanted, people saying it's cause she didn't change enough or put in enough effort and woe are the victims to need to forgive their bullies for doing one good deed this and this is not how you write a redemption that... And yet that's pretty much what happened with everyone else getting a redemption in later seasons like, how is Chloe supposed to be irredeemable???
This isn't me saying anyone's experience with Chloe stans are invalid. Like I'm sure there are Chloe stans who really are as toxic as they say. My first hate mail came from a Chloe Stan. But that Chloe Stan who sent me hate mail doesn't represent them all.
It's just unfair to write off an entire group for the few of them that are truly as bad as they say. This is the hill I will die on.
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red-balloon12 · 5 days ago
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As much as I do hate what happened to Chloe, I feel like Alya Stan’s have it worst because not only are they trying to stand up for a female character that objectively was a better person than Chloe but they have to deal with racism as well in the fandom.
Hot take of the day: Chloe Stans have it the roughest of all <insert character name> Stans. There, I said it.
Go to canon and their fave is done dirty. If y'all think having a flood of saltfics for your fave is rough, at least you can reassure yourself none of it is real. Chloe stans don't get that luxury. Canon feels like a salt fic featuring their fave, unrecognizable from who she was from S1-S3.
Go to fandom and almost everyone talks shit about them as if they're the only ones with vocal toxic stannies among them.
Not helped when A$$truc pretty much encourages this by talking shit about them too. True, he may have had a bad experience with them, but I highly doubt it's only the Chloe Stans sending him hate mail over his writing choices.
Let's face it, every group has their share of rotten apples. It's just that the more popular a character, the more likely it is and the worse they typically are. For every complaint I've seen about a Chloe Stan, I can think of a time a Marinette Stan rubbed me the wrong way.
It's one thing to see people talk shit about a fictional character, it's a whole other ballpark to see people talk shit about a group of real people who just happen to like the same character as if their bad apples represent them as a whole.
They get generalized with all kinds of shit like being called abuse apologists when really, from what I've seen, they're THE most vocal against child abuse. Most Chloe stans and Chloe neutrals I've seen and gotten to know wouldn't be caught dead saying anyone deserves child abuse.
The few instances I've personally seen people say a character deserves child abuse, it's typically aimed at Chloe. Those same people also love to preach about being against abuse. Please. Think harder. Someone acknowledging some fictional brat is abused in a story is not the same as someone delegitimizing your own bad experience. Ugh I swear some of these people act like it's a personal attack to say Chloe is a product of her environment.
The way I've seen certain sides of the fandom talk about Chloe Stans, it's like they're the plague of the fandom. Ignore the other toxic sides of the fandom that Stan someone else. Don't listen to people with valid criticisms of the show because chances are Chloe's gonna come up at some point and that makes what they have to say as invalid cause it's friggin Chloe. They're abuse apologists for pointing out a bad person can be in a cycle of abuse.
I dunno man. Maybe it's just the misfortune of having their fave be the first on the chopping block that gained them this rep. They're the first to get vocal with their complaints after the Chameleon salt flood. When really, Chloe's arc just the first big red flag on how character arcs are gonna go: all that build up leads to nothing. It's a pattern my cynical butt has noticed. The Chloe Stan experience of being disappointed in what canon wrote her to do is now a universal experience. I'd thought that'd give more room for empathy but I guess not. Not when canon gives them just enough copium by them not being completely malicious.
They seemed delusional for getting upset their fave didn't get the redemption they wanted, people saying it's cause she didn't change enough or put in enough effort and woe are the victims to need to forgive their bullies for doing one good deed this and this is not how you write a redemption that... And yet that's pretty much what happened with everyone else getting a redemption in later seasons like, how is Chloe supposed to be irredeemable???
This isn't me saying anyone's experience with Chloe stans are invalid. Like I'm sure there are Chloe stans who really are as toxic as they say. My first hate mail came from a Chloe Stan. But that Chloe Stan who sent me hate mail doesn't represent them all.
It's just unfair to write off an entire group for the few of them that are truly as bad as they say. This is the hill I will die on.
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red-balloon12 · 6 days ago
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Treating Alya with respect shouldn’t come at a cost of Chloe also being treated with respect. We need more fics with Alya and Chloe friendship. That dynamic is SO underrated.
Me and my girlfriend have been saying it for years.
The amount of white woman privilege Chloe gets is legitimately insane.
Chloe’s done far, far worse than Alya and the juxtaposition to how the fandom treats them is very concerning.
How a show with a poc lead attracted so many deranged bigots I'll never know.
Hmm. Like, even beyond the racism of the Alya bashing, it really annoys me that Chloe keeps on being put in Alya's canonical role in all these bazillions of saltfics because dammit, I LIKE CHLOE TOO. I'm rooting for her to become a better person, and it's nice when she gets to be friends with everyone! But forcing Alya into Chloe's canonical role as bully and as Lila's partner-in-crime while simultaneously making Chloe into Marinette's best friend and primary defender... yeah the juxtaposition of those two things is gross and exceptionally revealing.
I like fics that treat Chloe well. But when it comes at Alya's expense, the bias is clearly visible.
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red-balloon12 · 7 days ago
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I feel like any “It’s important to show how people choose not to change” arguments should be thrown away when the “failed redemption” ends in child abuse apologia. This is why I always tink to myself that Chloe would have just been better off with redemption. So none of this would have happened.
No, Chloé's arc is not better as a failed redemption arc
Y'all really need stop making me defend a character I hate. (That was a joke. Relax)
But, seriously though, that's the worst defense I've heard of
"It's important to discuss that sometimes people don't wanna change." That's fine in concept. I do think that could be an important lesson. The specific problem in this case is how they executed this idea with Chloé. They didn't just say that she was too set in her ways to change for the better. They actively doubled down on making her the worst while other characters aren't called out for similar behavior or directly contributing to how she became this way
For starters, Audrey never faces backlash for her terrible behavior. She verbally abused Chloé on national television multiple times. Bear in mind, Chloé's fate in the end is to live alone with this same woman. Let's make this teenager irredeemable and punish by trapping her in parental abuse
And André's not any better. He is directly responsible for spoiling her rotten and never set any boundaries for her. Let's be charitable and say he's also a victim of domestic abuse by Audrey. I can believe that. That still wouldn't justify why he didn't do more for Chloé. He was more of a dad for Zoé. He makes a whole point to get custody of Zoé away from Audrey, but not Chloé? You're not even going to try? If Chloé still insisted on being like her mother and being with her mother, that's one thing. Or she was so desperate to save face, she begged her mom to help her runaway. But that's not what happened. Chloé didn't want to be trapped alone with her mom. This is not André stepping up as a parent. Or tough love. Or whatever excuse you can think of
There is no excuse for this man to basically throw out his 14 year old child and leaving her with his abusive ex-wife
The crazy thing here is that Felix of all people gets to be a hero in the end. He's the one who gave Hawkmoth all the miraculous. Chloé's the worst for being manipulated into working with him and showing no remorse, but Felix is okay even though he willingly made a deal with him and showed no remorse
And even in the end, Marinette was still willing to offer Gabriel a second chance? She knows he's an abusive dad. She knows that he's the one who's been attacking Paris every week. Despite all that, he still gets a sympathetic send-off? He gets treated as "not completely evil," but Chloé's the worst of the worst???
I may not like Chloé as a character, but I can still be objective with her. Fair is fair. She is treated severely worst than other antagonistic characters, including those with similar or worst crimes than her
So no. The "failed redemption" arc argument doesn't work in the show's context
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red-balloon12 · 7 days ago
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Bro I just KNEW there was gonna be an issue with Gangle after the forth episode. Because god forbid Gangle be more than someone who cries over broken Comedy masks.
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I have opinions about the recent gangle hate
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red-balloon12 · 7 days ago
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People and their takes on Vaggie remind me of people and their takes on Franziska Von Karma from Ace Attorney. A good majority of the fandom either sees her as an angry and mean woman or a “dommy mommy” even though there’s so much more to her.
And I’m like “congratulations you fell for the surface level facade reading of the character, bro.”
I feel like a lot of people don’t totally understand Vaggies character and think Vaggie was just created as an accessory to Charlie.
the reason Vaggie is so loyal to Charlie is because she feels like that’s her only purpose in life.
Vaggie is an exorcist, and exorcists were only created to serve Heaven and obey Adam. Basically she’s been told her whole life that she was only created for one purpose: to serve. It’s not easy to undo what you’ve been told literally your entire life.
Of course Vaggie is going to serve Charlie. She literally feels worthless if she doesn’t. I hope this can be an arch for Vaggies where she realizes she can have her own aspirations and goals that don’t match with someone elses.
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red-balloon12 · 10 days ago
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They really have nothing new to say hm?
The way I still find anti Chaggie takes both on here but especially on twitter almost daily is so hilarious to me. It's been almost a year besties, I promise everything that could have been said was already said, let it go😭
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red-balloon12 · 10 days ago
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And I wasn’t excusing her either. If you think she ‘s still a bully who still deserved better and you aren’t excusing her or her parents then I’m not talking about someone like you. (I still think the whole thing with her and HM is a little more nuanced than you put it but whatever.)
Why Chloe stans can’t understand that Chloe salters don’t consider her worse than Hawkmoth? Of course, she’s done nowhere near as bad as he did, but handwaving her bullying of others isn’t good thing either.
Because fandom ain't a monolith.
Let me leave this here in big bold letters so people don't misinterpret what I'm trying to say cause you are overly simplifying this and lumping people together like they all share the same brain cell. You complain about Chloe stans generalizing Chloe salters while doing the same to Chloe stans in the same ask. Let me tell ya:
There are Chloe stans who do hand wave her bullying of others just as there are Chloe stans who merely think she deserved better than getting the child abuse she does get hand waved by the show and certain parts of the fandom.
There are also reasonable Chloe salters who rightfully think Gabriel is worse than Chloe just as there are unreasonable Chloe salters who do think Chloe is worse than Gabriel.
I've seen it with my own eyes: someone making a wholeass essay to say Chloe is worse than friggin Gabriel. But that one person does not and should not represent all Chloe salters. Even if they are not alone and there are a bunch of others who agree with that person or make similar posts, that group still does not and should not represent all Chloe salters.
But they do exist.
And even if they're not the majority, there's still one very vocal Chloe hater that's the real source of the Chloe stans complaining about people who think "Chloe is worse than Hawkmoth":
It's none other than A$$truc.
Even if he claims otherwise, it's excruciatingly hard to debunk the allegations when Chloe and Gabriel's respective last scenes in S5 are literally:
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And nah, context doesn't fix this. Having Chloe's rightful consequence be "taken by her abusive mother into a private jet as she swears to control everything in Chloe's life after losing everyone who could've given a damn about her" followed a few eps later by "Gabriel disappearing into pink sparkly heaven with the soul of his dead wife lovingly greeting him and his wish resulting in a utopia with a hero statue just for him"... The contrast is literally and visually hell vs heaven.
It's hard NOT to give the impression that guy hates Chloe and thinks she's eviller than Gabriel when you get scenes like this. It's a valid interpretation, people can't be expected to magically read his mind in case he thinks otherwise. If he's just misunderstood, he's doing a shitty job clearing things up when he keeps putting scenes like this in the show.
Some people, not necessarily just the Chloe salters, might pick up on that and be all for it.
And THIS. This may be what certain Chloe stans are complaining about when they say "ugh they really said Chloe is eviller than Hawkmoth" instead of just some random Chloe salter talking shit about her.
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red-balloon12 · 11 days ago
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LITERALLY THIS-
I may not feel too heavily about SonAmy usually but it’s shit like this that makes me want to defend this ship. Not wanting to be left behind is a valid thing to want but it’s not the same as wanting a free spirit to settle down.
Weirdest Sonamy criticism is "Sonic doesn't want to settle down". Like cool but what does it have to do with them lol
Amy loves Sonic for his free spirit & the whole point is that she wants to go on adventures with him. She wants to be by his side. She doesn't want to make him stay she just doesn't want to be left behind. That's different!!
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red-balloon12 · 12 days ago
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I can’t believe there are people that think saying Chloe shouldn’t have gotten sent away with her abusive mother is the same as hand waving her bullying.
(I also can’t believe there are people justifying what happened to her or being neutral about it. This isn’t something to be neutral about. Child abuse isn’t something you just shrug at.
Why Chloe stans can’t understand that Chloe salters don’t consider her worse than Hawkmoth? Of course, she’s done nowhere near as bad as he did, but handwaving her bullying of others isn’t good thing either.
Because fandom ain't a monolith.
Let me leave this here in big bold letters so people don't misinterpret what I'm trying to say cause you are overly simplifying this and lumping people together like they all share the same brain cell. You complain about Chloe stans generalizing Chloe salters while doing the same to Chloe stans in the same ask. Let me tell ya:
There are Chloe stans who do hand wave her bullying of others just as there are Chloe stans who merely think she deserved better than getting the child abuse she does get hand waved by the show and certain parts of the fandom.
There are also reasonable Chloe salters who rightfully think Gabriel is worse than Chloe just as there are unreasonable Chloe salters who do think Chloe is worse than Gabriel.
I've seen it with my own eyes: someone making a wholeass essay to say Chloe is worse than friggin Gabriel. But that one person does not and should not represent all Chloe salters. Even if they are not alone and there are a bunch of others who agree with that person or make similar posts, that group still does not and should not represent all Chloe salters.
But they do exist.
And even if they're not the majority, there's still one very vocal Chloe hater that's the real source of the Chloe stans complaining about people who think "Chloe is worse than Hawkmoth":
It's none other than A$$truc.
Even if he claims otherwise, it's excruciatingly hard to debunk the allegations when Chloe and Gabriel's respective last scenes in S5 are literally:
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And nah, context doesn't fix this. Having Chloe's rightful consequence be "taken by her abusive mother into a private jet as she swears to control everything in Chloe's life after losing everyone who could've given a damn about her" followed a few eps later by "Gabriel disappearing into pink sparkly heaven with the soul of his dead wife lovingly greeting him and his wish resulting in a utopia with a hero statue just for him"... The contrast is literally and visually hell vs heaven.
It's hard NOT to give the impression that guy hates Chloe and thinks she's eviller than Gabriel when you get scenes like this. It's a valid interpretation, people can't be expected to magically read his mind in case he thinks otherwise. If he's just misunderstood, he's doing a shitty job clearing things up when he keeps putting scenes like this in the show.
Some people, not necessarily just the Chloe salters, might pick up on that and be all for it.
And THIS. This may be what certain Chloe stans are complaining about when they say "ugh they really said Chloe is eviller than Hawkmoth" instead of just some random Chloe salter talking shit about her.
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red-balloon12 · 25 days ago
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I’ve been saying stuff like this for…about a year now. And I’m so glad I’m not crazy in thinking this way.
Not to mention people who leave toxic religious places can potentially relate to Vaggie. It can take people years to overcome religious trauma, especially when you know that person/the people that harmed you are still out there.
But no, let’s call the (understandably at some points) angry lesbian underdeveloped because it takes more than 5 minutes to think about her character.
Every now and then I think about how tragic a character Vaggie is
Like most people don't understand the suffering she most likely went through for as long as she was in Heaven under Adam as her mentor and main authority figure and probably the closest thing she ever had to a parent. And Lute, competing with her, maybe having feelings for her, being betrayed by what was probably the closest thing she had to a friend.
What most people don't get is the heavy weight of expectation that's placed on you for having a singular purpose and needing to perform it well. They don't get how seriously that fucks up your self worth.
I am so sick of people saying she's "underdeveloped" and "only exists to be Charlie's girlfriend". I will say, I'd love to get more insight to her backstory. I'd like to see her on her own, bonding with other people, but what we have right now doesn't take away from her core character.
Vaggie doesn't understand how to work for herself, how to live for herself, because she was probably never taught. She's been taught to only perform the task she was given, and is conditioned into believing that the services she can provide defines her and her worth as a person. That's why she acts the way she does when things don't go as planned, because she messed up, and she can't handle it because she's been raised to believe that she can't mess up. Charlie simply doesn't understand that yet.
Charlie is the one thing that holds her together, that reminds her that it's okay to be imperfect, but positive reinforcements like that can be so easy to forget in moments of vulnerability. It's why Vaggie lies. It's why she's so mortified of Charlie finding out the truth. Because she knows that everything she's ever brought herself to love after her entire life got ripped away from her, could disappear, and she'd be back to having nothing.
Now, obviously, that's not true. But when you've lost everything in the past because of one wrongdoing, of course you'd be afraid of it happening again. Of course when you think the worst of yourself, you expect the worst to happen.
I hope in the future she gets the chance to have her own arc and realize how damaging her toxic mentality is to both her and her relationship with Charlie. I hope they both get to grow and learn as people and form an even stronger bond because of it. I hope Vaggie gets to finally heal and get the closure and development she deserves.
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red-balloon12 · 26 days ago
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The Artistic Aloubell’s version of Bustier is actually a good middle ground. She’s still kind and caring to her students but she also still holds them accountable. Like for Chloe, she still talks with her and tries to understand her and even pushes her in the right direction but she never lets her get out of consequences.
Do you think that Ms. Bustier is overhated?
Not particularly. I don't have any strong feelings about her, but she's clearly a terrible teacher who is in way over her head. I totally understand why she sets some people off. If she was a real person that I actually had to deal with, then she'd probably set me off, too, because she so perfectly encapsulates toxic positivity. If you're not familiar with that term, then here's a quick definition:
Toxic positivity is the act of avoiding, suppressing, or rejecting negative emotions or experiences. This may take the form of denying your own emotions or someone else denying your emotions, insisting on positive thinking instead. Although setting aside difficult emotions is sometimes necessary temporarily, denying negative feelings long term is harmful because it can prevent people from processing their emotions and overcoming their distress.
Read that definition and then look at this scene from Zombiezou:
Marinette: But Miss Bustier, it's so not fair! It was Chloé, pulling another...Chloé! And...I'm the one who's getting in trouble?! Miss Bustier: Of course you're not in trouble, don't worry! As the class representative, I want you to set a good example for your classmates. Don't give into feelings of anger. Try to forgive Chloé instead. Marinette: I don't get it... Chloé is the meanest person I've ever known. Miss Bustier: Come on... There are much worse people in Paris right now than Chloé Bourgeois. I'm sure people like Chloé are capable of great things. The problem is, they only think of themselves. They don't understand the meaning of love, and we can't force them to change. But perhaps we can show them by setting a good example. That's why Marinettes are so important in today's world; because they have a lot of love to give. I'm counting on you. Marinette: Yes, Miss Bustier.
This is toxic positivity in action. Marinette is told to set aside her extremely valid feelings as if anger is a terrible thing, but it isn't. All emotions have their place and ignoring them can do real harm, a lesson that Miraculous really struggles with. It seems to see "negative" emotions as bad and they're really not. What matters is how we express and address our emotions, not that we experience them. If you want to see a family friendly piece of media do this topic right, then go watch Pixar's Inside Out.
There's also the fact that Chloé is never punished for her actions in this episode. She ruined a gift that probably took Marinette hours and yet Miss Bustier puts the onus to fix things on Marinette, blaming the victim and doing nothing to actually fix the situation. Canon mildly complicates this with Chloé's father's willingness to meddle, making punishing her apparently impossible, but Miss Bustier doesn't even acknowledge that here. The stated logic is that you need to be nice to your bully and that will hopefully magically fix things, which is a terrible lesson that I don't want any kid to learn! What kind of logic is that?
I'll admit that I'm a big fan of "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind," but that doesn't mean that you should never acknowledge harm or fight back. It just means that you need to be measured in your responses and pick your battles wisely. If this episode was about that, then I'd be fine with it, but that's not the lesson here. There is no point where the wrong done to Marinette is even mildly acknowledged. Miss Bustier's initial reaction to seeing Marinette's ruined gift is:
Miss Bustier: Well, I think this present is wonderful. It'll be my new cosmetics bag! Then I'll be able to think of both of you every time I use it.
And we go straight from that to the toxic positivity.
Something is wrong with this woman. You shouldn't even take this approach with preschoolers! While I could see this being a good final solution to something like Chloé scribbling on Marinette's drawing, Chloé's behavior still needs to be addressed. She is still the one in the wrong here. The one whose behavior needs to change.
This is one of many cases where there are two paths to take with this character. The writers clearly want Miss Bustier to be a wonderful teacher, but they wrote a victim-blaming disaster who shouldn't be in charge of anyone. If you're ever adapting her, then it's up to you if you want to redesign her into her intended self or if you want to lean into the bad writing. I think both paths have merit because the writing is so bad that there is no way to make canon Caline work as a good teacher. She's too fundamentally flawed so you either acknowledge how awful she is or do a major overhaul where she's much less forgiving and actually acknowledges things like the Chloé problem.
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red-balloon12 · 28 days ago
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I think most of the sexualization happens through dialogue, not animation. Especially with the out of pocket things Chat Noir says to Ladybug.
Is it true that Miraculous often sexualizes its characters? Because I see other people say this and want to know if it’s correct
I have not picked up on anything like that in Miraculous, but I'm ace, so sexualization has to be pretty overt for me to notice it on my own. It's entirely possible that there's something subtle that I'm missing. Until someone gives me specific examples, my stance is that this is incorrect. It's not an element that even crosses my mind when it comes to the reasons why I would discourage adults from introducing this show to kids. I am concerned about the quality of the romance between the leads, but that concern comes from a psychological standpoint about modeling what healthy relationships should look like. The love square is way too teen drama for a family show! However, from a purely physical standpoint, it's appropriate for all ages.
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