#anti brudick

[kuromitos]

I have more shit to say about batcest shippers!

[ This is the last time I promise ( -д-) ]

This is more directed at brudick shippers but the thing i hate about the most is that they try to get on this metaphorical soapbox, and say how the their ship is better and valid due to the fact that's "queer history." When in reality, they're nothing more than a bunch of liars, and just saying, random stuff to support their weird gross ship.

Stuff like how dick was supposed to be closer in age to bruce, how their relationship was always romantic and stuff like that, which is false.

Since his debut, Dick grayson was always portrayed as a young boy, and his relationship with bruce was always familial, not romantic. Yes, they weren't father and son during that time, but they did have a familial relationship, which was more akin to brothers, so they still had a familiar relationship.

And yes, I will admit I'm not gonna pretend that there weren't certain moments within the comics that did raise some eyebrows in today's standards, but that was also a scenes just happening in comics in general. Did we all just forget about the comic where supergirl fell in love with her with her horse?

What about the storyline, where green lantern falls in love with a fourteen year old alien girl who had the ability to physically age up her body to an adult form but was still mentally a child?

That storyline is still infamous today to the point that people don't like how jordan because of it, even though they reckoned it years ago. It's still creepy, but I digress.

There are so many storylines and moments that happen in comics that are so weird, but we just chalk it up to it being a certain time period. And I feel that's also what's going on, with the batman comics back then.

Another thing these shippers have come to believe that batman and robin are the reason why the comic code authority came into existence. Which is not completely true.

There are many reasons why the comic code came into fruition during that time, but they act like batman and robin is the sole reason why.

One of the main reasons mainly deal with the fact of censorship within comics and of course the corruption of children, which brings in their major evidence as to why they believe this is the book called seduction of the innocent.

If you don't know what the book seduction of the innocent is it's mainly a book by a doctor who believe that comics was turning children into delinquents and how parents should keep it away from their children and one of the passage within the books talks about how batman and robin are turning children gay.

Keep in mind, This was the 1950s where a man can stand next to another man, and people will automatically give them the side eye so....

Also, just a small piece of information is the man who wrote the book. He lied about that. He interviewed some boys asking him about the comic that they had read, and few of them happen to be gay and claim that they like to read superman comics with another indie title But for some reason, he decided to lie and claim that they was reading batman comics , and they wanted to be robin so they can have sex with him. He also lied about Wonder Woman and how she makes young girls want to hate men, so there's also that.

I'm going to post a link to a post that goes into more detail about this it also plays another detail I particularly dislike these types of shippers, which is how they only care about queer history when it benefits them. It comes with evidence about this man lying.

Which brings me to my final point that i'm going to make on here is they like to contradict themselves a lot.

These people are the same people who state that fiction isn't real and These are fictional characters so they can do whatever they want with them, but at the same time they want to get mad at people call them homophobic For not liking this ship due to being queer history and have an impact on queerness in comics. When we know that's not true.

How does that work? 2 things can't be true i At the same time if it doesn't make sense. either fiction affects reality, or it doesn't. You don't actually care if this has any impact within queer comics. You just care that this validates your weird a** ship between family members.

And that's incredibly irritating.

Also I feel I shouldn't have to mention this, but I am not antiship, I generally do not care what ship you're into, unless it's like Pedo or incest.

Even then, I'm not gonna do anything to you. I'm just gonna read about how you are a weirdo and call it a day, probably even block you.

I personally believe no one should be harassed, doxs, or anything horrible happened to them due to them for liking a ship unless you're being an asshole to everyone.

That's why I don't personally like these shippers. Because they want to feel mentally superior to everyone else and act like that, they are better than everyone else here.

They wanna blame the most random stuff on why they're getting hate when, in reality, that has nothing to do with their hatred. Like they wanna blame purity culture on why they're getting hate.

Purity culture??

in this fandom??

the fandom that is known for sexualizing their female characters?? The fandom that has sexualized Dick grayson so much that he's reduced nothing more to his a**??

Purity Culture has nothing to do with why you've been hated.

You are hated because you are making shit up for a ship.

You are hated because you are shipping a father and son and turning every single moment they spend together as romantic and basically sexualizing a wholesome relationship between men.

you are hated because you say out of pocket stuff to defend yourself like "adopted family aren't real families"

You are hated because you try to act better than everyone when you are no better than the average person on the internet

It has nothing to do with purity culture or or homophobia, or whatever random excuse you're trying to come up with. you are hated Cause you are generally a weird person that has weird taste in ships. That is it

I'm officially done talking about these people. Because if I feel if I do I will start to hate the fandom in general, so i'm done and I will, I'll try my best not to talk about them anymore.

BYE(*^▽^)/★*☆♪

[5-7-9]

Atleast the other cest shippers don’t make claims about “queer history” they know it’s just a them thingy

[k4txlulzz]

do you guys ever think about how dick grayson bought so much genuine joy and laughter into bruce's angsty life

i think bruce cherishes every fun moment with his son because the day he stops hearing grayson's laughs and jokes and no longer sees that blinding smile on his face is the day bruce's life looses meaning

(the last part was very dramatic and corny i KNOWW its bruce @ any of the batkids because they all mean the world to him i just thought this would sound sweet in relation to these two)

[bbloggmaym3]

Found an arter who draws cute batfam art

Found out they also ship br*d*ck

[bat-play]

Hi! I don't want to seem rude at all!! I promise I'm not here to hate, I just want to get a grasp on how you see the batfamily?? Is it pure pseudocest? Are there some you think are best platonic? Is there a certain comic/movie/show that made you realise the batfam is better as a non-platonic thing??

I personally don't get it due to Bruce (sort of) raising them from a decently young age but I'm interested in learning and hearing about it from your perspective if you're willing to give it!

If not, that's fine, I don't want this to seem rude or a hate remark.

Look I'm not some philosopher, I just think it's hot dude.

If you want a well-crafted and seriously thought out answer about the history, dynamics and reasons to ship these fictional characters, I'd definitely go to blogs like @inkrats and/or @vintagerobin for that.

What I can add though is another question; Why does the majority of people, including the official writers, think Barbara and Dick are sooo stinking cute together even though that's basically "pseudocest" too?

I mean the modern canon is that Barbara and Dick essentially grew up together. Bruce helped raise them both, considering the amount of time Barbara spent with him. She is a part of the Batfamily. So they are "pseudo siblings" just like Jason and Dick for example. How can antis be like "yeah but it's fine. Oh it's even canon in some stories? yeah that's fine. Yeah no no it's not weird. Also KYS if you ship other batfamily members."

Even if we go by the original canon, Barbara was 7 years older than Dick then if I'm not mistaken. And according to posts I've seen, many antis think anything over a 5 year age difference is pedophilia sooooo. Do you see how stupid this all is?

Hell in the animated version of The Killing Joke, Bruce canonically FUCKED Barbara for no reason other than to just have them do it. And yeah most people didn't really vibe with it but it got MADE dude. It got approved, animated, edited and released without any pushback from the workers/writers involved.  

Like the only real difference I can see is that those ships are straight.

Bottom line is, did anyone get hurt in 2013 when everybody and their mother on this damn site was shipping Levi (30-33) and Eren (15) from AOT? No? That's what I thought. And don't even try denying how big that fucking ship was at that time.

Antis are usually young, passionate kids who mean well but they seriously need to learn how fantasy and reality works. And if they can't? You filter your online experience and take care of yourself.

I personally hate kids for example. I do NOT want to see posts about babies, diapers and pregnant bellies when I'm online. Do I send hate to parents or pregnant people? Demand they stop posting? Of course not. I block, I filter tags, scroll past and move on with my life.

[lazaruspiss]

This 16th day of May in the year 2001

[coolgelding]

a couple days ago i was thinking about how most antis are chill with stucky but not brudick when it's a very similar dynamic and i was getting mad because i thought it was so hypocritical but then i remembered the popular version of stucky is the mcu version where they're like the same age so i was basically mad at nothing.

moral of this story: i forgot about the mcu

[bats8batarangs]

No no u dont understand my fictional incest is Ok bc its dickbabs and stephtim and m/f couples apparently have immunity from the icky batcest curse bc.......🤨🤨🤨

[everydarkcorner]

I also want to add the reason why Brudick is such a historic ship: specifically because it was used as an example of The Dangerous Gays trying to Recruit Our God-Fearing Children.

In 1954, Fredric Wertham published a book called Seduction of the Innocent, in which he outlined that comic books of his time contained dangerous materials unsafe for children, including violence, alcohol, and (horror of horrors) Gays. He specifically targeted Batman and Robin, claiming that comics portrayed them as gay because they were unmarried, lived together, and (gasp!) wore dressing gowns. Seriously.

The whole argument of Seduction of the Innocent is the same argument antis make now: that showing taboo themes in media will drive people towards acting on those taboos irl. Now it seems laughable that Batman and Robin could turn kids gay, but antis are saying the same shit about the ship today. It's just about incest now.

Remember your queer history. And remember the antis of today are just the descendants of the homophobes of the past.

Happy pride month. 🏳️‍🌈

Fandom these days is wild.

I remember how Jaydick used to be the go to vanilla, childhood-crush-to-lovers soft ship for young, first time shippers that wanted something simple and completely unproblematic.

Now going by the general consensus if you ship Jaydick you're a fucking freak of nature and you should repent or burn in hell.

[sasheneskywalker]

people who are clearly anti-batcest and anti-dark content but follow me on tumblr and stick around for weeks are so funny. i don't mind it, it's just baffling to me. i have a brujay and a brudick fic rec list linked in my pinned post and reblog 10+ jaytim and jaydick fanarts every day. like why are you here, i don't understand 😭

[ao3-top-batfam-ships-bracket]

people who says "oh no brudick has SUCH A huge age gap!" is that meme where Hannigram antis were so concerned about Will's age gap between Hannibal. i think the memes goes like "You can excuse Cannibalism but draw the line at Age gap"

People are concerned about the wildest things. We promise no Dick Graysons were harmed in the making of these polls.

[k4txlulzz]

tell me why i was peacefully looking for bunnywing posts and came across brudick. what the fuck

[EDIT: i now know that tags aren't exclusive and if i put anti something in my tags, that something will still show up on my feed^^; i have blocked the tags and moved on since]

[mistress-of-vos]

so i went to the blog of the person complaining so i could block them

(even outside of being anti "batcest" the way they doubled down on steph and babs not being batfam members despite how long and hard female comic fans worked to have them recognized as such was infuriating)

and they ship batjokes

and like ship and let ship

but,,,,

somehow shipping a man with his son's killer is more okay then shipping 2 ppl who share no blood, did not grow up together and almost certainly never referred to one another as siblings???

yikes on the hypocrisy

Not a BatJokes shipper being "anti batcest" 😭!!!

And yeah, even the weird attitude about who is "batfam" and who isn't was an screaming red flag to me. Personally I consider them all bats, because that's how their dynamic is. Now, asking WHO considers that they have a familiar bond is very different. As example: Jean-Paul is a bat ("batfam") but he has never shown to see anyone as family besides Cass, which was influenced by them having similar backgrounds and bonding over it.

Steph and Babs ARE bats, and they should never be limited to their role because of Tim or Dick. Just because Babs has a dad and doesn't consider Bruce a father, doesn't mean she isn't (canonically) a pillar of the bats and considered invaluable by Bruce.

Now, about BatJokes. I am a huge BatJokes (and Clex too) fan. Truth is that I don't go around considering if a ship is "darker" than another, I guess I simply run into ships I find interesting (for example Ra'sTim or SlaTara) and then, when they grow into me, I analyze their dynamic etc. So while I don't consider BatJokes more "problematic" than let's say BruDick, I find it very hypocrite to support the first one and attack the second, when in reality, censorship hates them both.

Like sure, you can like some ships and others not and it's valid to find things uncomfortable but GOD the hypocrisy here is Hannibal fans who are anti shipping level!!!

The anti rethoric has brainwashed so many people that some fans think "It applies to them but not me because -" and reality is that they will be burned as witches too when the antis come as they always do.

I genuinely find this tiring.

[muffinmonstah-art]

Man... after having a discourse with a BruDick anti, I feel like drawing my precious DC OTP again! The BruDick Week is going on right now? What a perfect timing to make a BruDick drawing!

[to-the-batcomputer]

was talking to my sister about brudick and i'm always like "hear me out" bc she's uncomfortable about it. she supports me she just doesn't ship it. anyways i was saying how cute it would be if dick had a crush on bruce as a kid. as young as... well whenever he first shows up, but maybe more as a teenager. and my sister was like "well duh" as if OBVIOUSLY and CANONICALLY dick grayson had a crush on bruce wayne as a kid. this from a brudick anti

[snowlikeash]

Earlier this year, I decided to make a little sideblog/gallery for my BruDick art. I wanted a place where I felt safe and a little anonymous, because I was still worried about being found out by antis & doxxed or whatever, as well as the fact that I have no good name with the BruDick fandom at large (long story).

But now it's sort of like. I'm getting a little mixed up, and I can't really hide my art style. So if you follow user @ohdearbruce, that is me as well. I'm planning on keeping it for my explicit-ish (within in the confines of Tumblr) works as I tend to try and keep my main journal SFW-ish.