#anti Edward Cullen

[kwop-kilawtley]

EVERYTHING we love about bella is stripped away by Edward and vampirism. Her clumsiness, her blush, her brown eyes. The way she loves the sun and Arizona. She loved to cook and now she will never eat again. She hated the cold and now she is cold stone. Edward discards her truck and replaces it with a brand new Mercedes’ she didn’t even like. Which always felt like symbolism to me. Some may see it as an upgrade, as a nice gift… but Bella never wanted it. Think of how EXCITED she was to get that truck and how uncomfortable she was then with the Mercedes. If Bella wanted an upgrade, SHE SHOULDVE PICKED THE CAR. But no.. Edward literally just DISCARDED IT. Bella never liked flashy things or parties but now she’s subjected to that forever.

I think it’s fucking insane that people will say theyre Team Edward cause they’re not “anti-choice.” What did y’all read bc….. what. Just because Bella chooses to be a vampire? To die? She was OBSESSED with the easy way out. She was obsessed with Edward cause they were trauma bonded and she had such horrific self esteem. Just cause Bella chose to be a vampire doesn’t make it a good thing. It is a tragedy and always will be to me. Unless you never gave a fuck about her as a human I suppose. 😗✌️ Bella is an unreliable narrator and was under vampire thrall. Bella was severely traumatized by Edward and felt worthless as a human. Bella had a chance to grow with Jacob and she WOULD HAVE. But she would have PTSD that she could work through. You may be like “she would’ve never gotten over edward.” Yeah she would’ve and she would’ve realized that him haunting her was all Stockholm syndrome.

I’m not “anti choice” for acknowledging Bella’s choice was the wrong one. ExB’s relationship ruined lives, killed people, put the wolfpack through literal HELL and eventually enslaved the wolfpack to them. All for “love” LMAO! It wasn’t love, it was obsession, bloodlust, trauma bonding, low self worth, co dependency.

Anyway. I started a Breaking Dawn rewrite fic where Bella realizes all this shit and heals.

[therealvinelle]

Would Edward be jealous if he knew that Bella thought Carlisle and Rosalie were hot hot hot?

It's factually correct they are hot hot hot, I imagine he'd nod approvingly to the Carlisle bit and disapprovingly to the Rosalie bit. She is hot, that is a fact, it's also the problem with her. This is the man who suggested Jacob get Bella pregnant since she wants a child so badly, jealousy is not on Edward's radar in any conventional way.

The most adverse reaction I can imagine is an angsty "Yes, we are all beautiful in this family... BECAUSE WE ARE MONSTERS".

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

IDK if you've watched the x-men movies- og or first-class stuff- but if you have I'm curious as to your opinion on Charles Xavier/Professor X. Specifically: how would he get on with Edward? What about Carlisle? How woul Magneto/Erik get on with them?

I've seen I think all three of the OG X-Men live action films but it's so long ago I only remember 3 very well (and it was... very not good). I saw X-Men First Class and I think a few of the other reboot X-Mens that were also... not good.

But honestly? Based on those I feel like I just don't have enough to get a grasp of Professor X and Magneto. It doesn't help that this is one of those domains where the comics are very old and people are really into them, so if I just do "well, based on the film" I'm told "ACTUALLY THEY'RE SUPER DIFFERENT IN THE COMICS AND HOW DARE YOU".

But I'll take my best guess.

Professor X and Edward

Charles deals with overemotional and overly powerful teens who cause problems all the fucking time. He's dealt with ones who have caused a lot of damage, sometimes intentionally and sometimes not, so I feel like to Charles Edward is another kid in need of help. Does he need help? Absolutely, this boy is clearly traumatized by being turned into a vampire/the nature of his existence and his temptation for blood among other things. However, he's not unique and certainly not more terrifying than dealing with a preteen Jean Gray.

I actually think Edward would really like Charles. Yes, it's annoying he's more powerful than Edward (being basically able to do what Aro does, but from a distance, and able to control people's thoughts) but he's the kind of guy Edward would really like. He has all the power in the world but rarely if ever chooses to use it and when he does it's with a lot of justification to himself of why he has to erase these memories or make someone do this thing, usually with the safety of others in mind. He's well-spoken, earnest, has dedicated his life to helping gifted children the world has shunned and is able to offer Edward advice.

For all Edward would argue he's older than Charles, I do think Charles could glide into that mentor-like position (especially since he has, canonically, for older characters such as Logan).

Charles in turn I imagine would be a good mentor for Edward who would both a) actually understand what he's thinking and going through because of the telepathy and b) being a voice of sanity Edward can choose to confide in.

Professor X and Carlisle

I imagine Charles... understands why Carlisle has turned these people, that Carlisle meant well, and that Carlisle was driven by a profound loneliness when he did so. He doesn't approve and Carlisle should absolutely stop, these people did not consent to become vampires and not all of them are happy being so, but he gets that Carlisle is ultimately human (humanoid) and can be expected to make mistakes/be driven by emotion.

Beyond that, I imagine the pair would get on great as, again, Charles is a person that actually reads your mind at the bone deep level and so you actually have to confront shit. And we know Carlisle was cool enough with Aro to stay in Volterra for twenty years, so he's fine with the general mind reading and I think would get on fairly well.

Unless Charles is in his bitchy heroin addicted phase he was in for that one movie.

Edward and Magneto

Nope.

See, the trouble is Edward gets Magneto's philosophy a little too much.

It's not the same at all, but Carlisle's philosophy is very in Professor X's line of thought: yes, even though there are bad humans who do bad, that does not justify our eating them or make us 'good' by doing so.

This is not entirely dissimilar to Charles's: yes, the humans often treat mutants and anyone with the label 'other', like complete dogshit, not limited to horrific murder, but that does not mean that we can target the general population of humans out of self-defense or kill them all and leave only 'pure' mutants.

Edward would see far too much of himself in Magneto's: we are absolutely justified in kicking the humans out of power/dismantling their entire system because they've done a shit job of everything for thousands of years and are always treating mutants and 'other' as shit.

Magneto's not eating humans, and Magneto often pumps the breaks when things get too spicy in X-Men land (from what I've seen he's never full "KILL THEM ALL" and usually ends up having to side with the X-Men with a pouty face when the other villain goes too far), and it's not really equivalent to Edward's self-justification for giving into desire but it'd be close enough that Edward would hate it because he hates what he himself did.

As for Magneto, he sees Edward as another overpowered self-righteous and seriously misled teen. Boy, he's seen a lot of those.

Magneto and Carlisle

It's like Charles the vampire but worse because he's turning these stupid kids into crystal death machines and then telling them not to give into natural instinct, starve themselves like monks, when they were by design made to feed off human blood.

"JUST EAT, YOU DUMB PEOPLE" I imagine Magneto screams at them in despair. The humans can handle it. Nobody's winning an award for these people nobly starving themselves and in Erik's humble opinion there's a lot of people who should kick the bucket.

It'd be stupid if Carlisle was doing it only to himself, but it's downright horrible that he's bringing these kids into it, and especially that none of them had any say in it.

Erik thinks this guy is a piece of shit.

[belle-keys]

Exhibit A: here

Exhibit B: here

[dukeofdelirium]

crazy how Smeyer’s mormon ass got away w writing a whole series of novels packed full of anti native racism and that the tribe she portrayed in her books are a real fucking tribe and that she tried to make the fanbase view the native characters as evil and dangerous and bad when the Cullens are literally rich, white, immortal and could fucking live anywhere on planet earth (including underwater cuz they don’t fucking BREATHE) yet they stay RIGHT next to the tribe which FORCES THE NATIVE BOYS TO SHAPESHIFT AGAINST THEIR WILL

she deadass wrote Edward casually thinking about committing native genocide and everyone saw that and was like “No biggie” and it’s literally a real fucking tribe she’s writing about… HELLO???

[spacerockfloater]

Greetings loved ones, since I’ve made my disdain for Rhysand well known in the Tumblr ACOTAR community, I’ve decided I might as well come forward and shit on the OG Dark Mind-Reading Evil Male Love Interest.

That’s right Edward Cullen, I’m coming for you.

“Really Eris? Making Twilight posts in 2024?” I hear you all asking me in unison and to that I have to say “Fuck yeah!”. I’ve been hyperfixating on Twilight lately, so this is the perfect time for me to reach a new all time low.

Besides, my hatred for fictional men is what brought you to this blog. I’m just giving you what you came here for, so stay tuned!

[shadowqueenjude]

Honestly, the whole tortured soul character trope, like Rhysand, Azriel, Edward Cullen, is just sooo boring and icky to me. Like ohhh noo i willingly did all these shitty things but it was for the greater good but I don’t wanna corrupt you blah blah blah. Do fucked up shit man. Don’t act like a weirdo about it. Just be nice to to your wife. Like Lorcan. Or be a sunshine boy with sass, youth, and brains but with a lot of trauma to unpack. Like Lucien.

Don’t be stuck in that weird in between place.

[lost-in-beacon-hills]

Okay, as someone who is reading Twilight for the first time, I gotta say Bella did Jacob so dirty. She knew she was flirting with Jacob the first time she met him. She TRIED to make him like her. After already being interested in Edward. She had no intention of doing anything with him. She wanted to know more about Edward and manipulated Jacob into telling her the stories.

In the movie, it was way less clear. She seemed to have already had an ongoing friendship with him. In the book, she was acquainted with his older sisters. And even then, she makes a point of saying they were all too shy to be actual friends.

I haven't gotten too far in the series, but just knowing this kid is fifteen changes my perspective. This kid was thrown into a war he didn't want for a girl who didn't want him.

[personalheroin]

idk.. the way edward talks to bella is so degrading. he really treated her like she was incapable of making responsible decisions (shes not, as later revealed to us but he didnt know that) I don’t see how anyone could like Edward. If a man treated me like that i would avoid him like the plague. If i saw him in my fucking bedroom?? I’d file a fucking restraining order. What the hell makes you think i’d let this disrespectful ass bitch watch me sleep? EVEN IF HE WASNT MEAN TO ME, SOMEONE, A STRANGER, COMING INTO MY BEDROOM TO WATCH ME SLEEP IS ALWAYS MEGA CREEPY.

[pizzawrench]

my new moon notes ….

[darkcrowprincess]

Team Jacob thoughts:

What pisses me off about Bella is she talks about the Cullens being this perfect found family she always wanted(when they're not) when she already had a potential found family she never saw or appreciated in Charlie and Jacob and his family and her friends Jessica and Angela who tried to connect with her. And the tribe. Like she hand a family right there growing up with her every time she visited every summer. And she never saw it. The Cullens are not a family. They're cold ghosts that Carlisle is desperately trying to keep together with his very cruel choices. There's no way your telling me that Emmett and Rosalie would not bail on them the second there was a chance they can be human again and grow old together and have babies. Esme is a suicidal stepford wife trying to mother ghosts that are too old to mother. Edward just wants to die but Carsile won't let him. And Alice and Jasper are a disaster security risk waiting to happen. One is insane spoiled brat and the other is a Confederate soldier that can easily kill anyone without trying. They are not a family. And Bella got shackled to that and dragged Jacob down with her.

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you!)

[kwop-kilawtley]

“At LeAsT EdWaRd UnDeRStAnDs CoNsEnT”

You know you guys are talking about a guy who literally planned on murdering her, stalked her before they knew each other, snuck into her bedroom to watch her sleep, stalked her out of town, snooped through her things, made her do things she doesn’t want to do (prom, parties, wedding) disabled her truck, BROKE her truck to get rid of it even tho she loves it, told her she couldn’t see her best friend/true love bc he’s dangerous even tho his entire purpose is to protect humans from vampires and even tho his brother tried to kill her and every single near death experience she’s had is bc of vampires and him. 💀

[therealvinelle]

Edward thinking about Jacob getting Bella pregnant: 😔😮‍💨😕

Edward when Mike breaths in the same room as Bella: 😡🤬👹

Yes.

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

If a version of Midnight Sun existed for each following instalment of the Twilight series (New Moon, Eclipse, Breaking Dawn), what do you think they’d be called/what would you call them and what (new) scenes would be in them?

Anon, you speak my greatest dream. I want this in my life. If no one else does, then I am the sole person who does. If there is not one person who wants this, it means that I have died.

I need this.

But for now, I can only imagine (and no doubt fail miserably to what it would be in actuality).

New Moon

The thing is that Meyer would also want to call this New Moon for the reason that she called it New Moon for Bella: this is a book about hopelessness. Edward leaves, Bella's soulmate, she literally cannot survive without him and this book is her discovering "oh, yeah, I literally cannot survive without him" (and making friends with Jacob but let's be real Meyer was never that into that).

It's a book where the moon, the light, is gone.

For Edward, we have the same narrative, he tries to leave Bella for her own good, fails, has a miserable time, and comes crawling back only to find that he's made everything worse.

But because Edward is more dramatic, and to thematically work with Midnight Sun (named thus as Bella is the unexpected sunlight in what should be the darkest of Edward's nights) we have Polar Night which is the phenomenon opposite of Midnight Sun where instead of the sun never setting at all we have the night never ending.

As for what would be in it. My friend, my beautiful friend, everything would be in it.

We'd get the scene where Edward bullies his family into leaving, many of them having reservations, and then steals all Bella's photographs and tries and fails to steal the stereo out of her car. We'd get scenes of Edward fantasizing about Bella marrying and holding hands with MiKe NEWtoN and it being entirely too much for him. We get all of the birthday party, period, which from Edward's point of view would no doubt be insane.

We have Edward so fucking depressed that he feels he's bringing the family down and chooses to leave on the vague pretext of catching Victoria. Then he doesn't catch Victoria and loses her in Mexico but is so depressed he just keeps going south until he hits Brazil.

Where he stays, and per what he says to Bella (which is undoubtedly not the entire truth) he was fucking miserable and did nothing for months. Did he have a Hallucination Bella who told him not to eat human food because it'd make him sick? Did he write a rock opera about Bella Swan only to realize it didn't live up to real life and burn it in a fit of despair and anger? What about the family calling to check in? We know that happened, Rosalie could reach Edward and he answered, so did they just call and quietly try to ask if Edward's coming back home or not? You know? Anytime? Edward?

And then of course his pleading for death with the Volturi, being told no, planning his elaborate massacre-suicide before settling on good old suicide without any murder and Bella being alive and that whole debacle from his point of view including "OH NO OTHER MAN MOVED IN" when he realizes Jacob's... kind of... a thing...

Everything would be new in part because we see so little of Edward and given the insanity in Midnight Sun that was never in Twilight I can't even guess to what Edward got up to for months in Rio.

It could be fucking anything.

Eclipse

Or "Edward did a bad thing and is now very nervous" the novel. As for what it's call, this is less clear as we have to go with the sun/moon themes here, and Eclipse is already taken. If we're allowed weather related events maybe "Eye of the Hurricane" as there's a storm out there and this book is about Edward barely holding his shit together. This is his nightmare scenario in every way.

Bella has a new love interest, a friend she believes is platonic who is very interested in her, and worse, Edward actually does admire and is hands down in Edward's opinion the better man for her to be with. Bella's changed when he was gone and is now an adrenaline junky, what else about her has changed? How much did he miss? She's involved in werewolves who all hate Edward, for good reason, and want her to leave him, for good reason. Edward has discovered that he actually can't leave Bella, Alice was right, even though he wants to be that strong desperately. Bella got the family to agree to turn her and they'll do it, Edward's barely gotten her to agree to be turned by him instead, but she's hemming and hawing about marrying and committing to him and she wants him to bang him (which will likely lead to her death)

Edward is straight up not having a good time, bro.

So, we'd get Edward's insane plans to keep Bella and Jacob apart, his meeting Bella in the road after her looking like he'd love nothing more than to pull The Terminator where he chases her car down. We get Edward's increasing nervousness that Bella "wants to be with him forever" but "doesn't want to marry him" (which for Edward, understandably as he doesn't have Bella's background, is something that just doesn't compute). And there's Jacob, kissing Bella, warming her up at night, thinking very dirty things when Edward's sitting right there internally screaming.

And of course, offscreen things with the family, likely venting about the Denali who are leaving them to die because they won't let them kill the children Native Americans, wondering if they're all going to die in this fight, even more of the tent scene with Jacob (which I'm sure, somehow, I'm sure, got very homoerotic in there). Probably sobbing to Alice "I fucked up" and then hating Rosalie BECAUSE THIS IS ALL HER FAULT HISS HISS.

And of course, what we know he sees from Bree and perhaps the discussion with the family that Bella never got to be privy to.

And I imagine a lot of fantasies of Bella pregnant with Jacob's beautiful babies.

Breaking Dawn

I'm going to bow out for this one too, Meyer would want to name it that. Maybe we get "Hailey's Comet" or something, in that Edward has related Bella to a comet streaking across the bleak sky of his life and this is him learning to accept to be happy and perhaps good things are allowed to happen to him.

But anyways.

I mean.

We get Breaking Dawn.

We get Edward gearing himself up for sex and asking the family how to bang a woman. We know he did this. Canonically he confesses to Bella, in the weirdest manner possible, that he asked his entire family how to do it (and it made it clear that Carlisle didn't really approve and was pretty :/ and "don't do it" about all of it). We get the family probably watching Alice like hawks because they're waiting for her to tell them if Bella lived or died through intercourse. We get Edward interrogating the maid in Portuguese and god knows what they even said to one another but it had to be wild.

We get Edward planning Bella's abortion, the betrayal by Rosalie yet again, and then more planning of her forced abortion with Jacob and his opinion on Jacob turning from "respected rival" into "my only friend".

Then we get Edward's complete flip on Renesmee which must have been... I don't even know. But he'd be thinking she's the spawn of Satan before that (in the most Edward manner possible) and then that she's Jesus after that (in the most Edward manner possible).

Then of course there's "my son, Jacob" and honestly probably fantasizing about an adult Renesmee pregnant with Jacob's beautiful babies. Let's be real here. and just...

Look.

I can't predict this.

What we saw of Breaking Dawn was already insane and this would only be more so because it's Edward. There's so much we don't see as Bella pays 0 attention to the other vampires and to the family at large and Edward would just...

I have no idea.

It would just be madness.

TL;DR

I need this.

[wallflowers-in-the-wind]

I gotta preface this with I love Alice, I think she’s a sweetheart and tries to have everyone’s best interest at heart but the level of matchmaking she does for Edward and Bella is really weird. She just so happened to see Bella jump but not if she survived? And didn’t wait to tell Edward she wasn’t dead until after? It could just be shock that Bella would actually jump off a cliff but for someone so invested in Bella she should have double checked at least once or went to see her before saying anything.

Pretty sure that Bella would have moved on and lived a normal mortal life with Jacob if Alice didn’t tell Edward Bella died jumping off a cliff. Something Bella only did to chase the ghost of Edward.

[spacerockfloater]

From:

To:

…in less than 10 fucking minutes.

Bella and Jacob had no other interaction between these two scenes, by the way. There was nothing that happened during Bella’s trip to Italy that would make her change her opinion about him so drastically.

Nope. It was just Grandpa Edward getting mixed up in teenagers’ business.

But in all seriousness, it is his fault. Bella fully trusted Jacob all of her life. And I mean, why would she not? He’s been protecting her since the get-go while Edward decided to leave her all alone and exposed. At first, Bella is convinced that Jacob would never harm her and she tells him that she’s always going to remind him that he’s not that type of guy. But the moment Smellward gets back, she’s suddenly all like “Eddie pwease, is that person going to hurt poor little me? No? Can you make sure? 🥺”. Like, I know this is obviously the writers’ fault, but girl maybe you’re worrying about the wrong person? Your prince charming over there spends every minute of his undead life trying to prevent himself from turning your body into a raisin.

And it’s even worse when you get to that part in the book because she never even says this to Jacob. Instead, we get this heart breaking scene:

Wow. Like, all she can think about is Jacob and how she wants to go and touch him and be close to him and keep him happy with her, even as her friend. Which ok, a bit selfish on Bella’s part, but Jacob is her choice. Her human, sane part chose him of its own free will, whereas the rest of her simply can’t resist Edward and everything his world offers. Her soul is connected with Jacob’s. And speaking of selfishness, Edward doesn’t even want her to be part of his world, but he wants her to be part of Jacob’s even less. It’s like he changes his mind about keeping Bella with him forever out of pure spite. I fully believe that if Alice was able to see the wolves in her visions and Edward saw Bella coming closer with Jacob and eventually marrying him as she briefly dreamed of, his wrinkly ass would have never left Forks in the first place.

Like, it might just be me, but physically restraining Bella from getting close to someone she loves (whatever the way, shape or form of that love may be) out of jealousy is so insane. He’s too old to be acting like that. What, Jacob getting upset about Bella practically ceasing to exist as her current self is just too much for Edward? Has this man forgotten that he spent the biggest part of Midnight Sun fantasising about how he’d kill Bella and her entire classroom and that he didn’t do it solely to prove to himself that he’s not that kind of monster but he still fucking craves murdering her? Is he going senile?