#anti twilight

[circumpolarvampire]

Idk guys I think the woman who wrote an actual tribe to be literal dog monsters might be a racist, and the lady who thought it wasn't that big of a deal is also racist

[polyamorousmood]

I realized I was okay with my partner having other partners by the time I was 13 (though I didn't have a word for it at the time) and the reason I realized this was because I was so full of seething hatred (the kind only 13 year olds are capable of) for the love triangle in twilight that by the time I got to the third book I was like "who CARES if she has two boyfriends. I wouldn't care if my partner had other partners as long as I knew about it and everyone was okay with it. Anything is better than this nonsense"

I realized this several years before I realized I liked girls. I'm a lesbian. Anyway I just think "realizing you're poly via twilight hate" is objectively hilarious but it does, unfortunately, mean that twilight was a formative experience for me.

Twilight defined a generation. Love it🫶 or hate it🤬, it still shaped you. Very few escaped this fate.

Your fate, specifically, though, is objectively hilarious

Seriously though, at least you got something worthwhile out of the books! I often think it is easier to define ourselves first by what we are NOT than by what we ARE, so I can't say I'm surprised. Hating love triangles seems to be a common theme with us polyams 😂

[thebellekeys]

Exhibit A: here

Exhibit B: here

[fandomluver-101]

So my sister found book reports I wrote in middle/high school and it brought up a number of things I hate about Twilight (yet I did enjoy the books to an extent). Shes not happy and I'm reminded why I so not engage with Team Edward Twihards.

Rant incoming - also, this is about the BOOKS, not the movies

Middle school me knew there was something wrong with Bella and Edward's relationship. The "eternal seventeen" view my friends had (and still have) didn't hold water to me because I was the same middle schooler reading a whole bunch of books about vampires, werewolves, fae, and mythology. In my report on the first book, I said that there's no such thing as an immature immortal character - they'd be dead if they were truly immature.

Because seriously, Bella is a teenager with no real world experience compared to Edward. I said "think of it like a thirteen year old girl dating a eighteen year old boy." Back then, I pretty much wrote about grooming without fully understanding it in depth (I got sent to the counselor and ended up learning more). Edward himself acknowledges the power imbalance of their relationship, he does incredibly disgusting things that are NOT romantic, and reading Midnight Sun years later only validated my old views.

Jacob is also a teenager with no experience. Setting him up as some type of romantic rival to Edward doesn't acknowledge the MAJOR issue of JACOB BEING AN ACTUAL TEENAGE CHILD! A lot of my very rantish book report on that aspect was detailing how Jacob is just as much a victim of the story as Bella if not worse. He's written as a sweet and caring boy trying to do right by his family and friends, gets abruptly turned into an incel because Meyer realized she made Jacob too perfect for Bella, and then enslaved for the rest of his life AT RHE AGE OF SIXTEEN. He did not deserve any of what happened and it happens because Meyer made him, a CHILD, Edward's rival.

Because, YES, Jacob IS the superior match for Bella. Not simply because she canonically calls him her sun, but because HE'S AN AGE APPROPRIATE MATCH. Nevermind that, canonically, Bella acknowledges that she IS in love with Jacob and if, not for Edward the manipulator being her drug of choice, they WOULD be together.

She has a whole "what if I married Jacob" sequence where she had a happy and healthy relationship and LIVED, no amount of gaslighting could change my opinion when I wrote "this is like that old movie that glorified domestic abuse - Edward is constantly slapping Bella and he is her true cause of her death, but 'love in adversity' is the lesson we're meant to take from it."

There's also a paper I wrote using Twilight to discuss racism and PDF-philia in literature for my AP Lit class. And it holds up! Meyer legit had Quil imprint on a TWO YEAR OLD, Jacob on an infant (with the kind of an adult which adds another layer of horror and abuse to Jacob's treatment), made the shifters all angry hotheads who harm the people around them, has them referred to as dogs and mutts by the very White elitist Cullens, and gives all of them awful endings. She legit made it canonical that the shifters have to cut their hair, something that even a cursory amount of research would tell you that is a cultural no-no.

Meyers, and the fandom, give Edward so much grace for his predatory, entitled, and petty behavior and simultaneously drag Jacob for his very justifiable hatred of the Cullens and desperation to get Bella away from them. The Cullens legit repeat history by invading native land and despite KNOWING that their proximity is causing them to shift and result in deaths, THEY DONT CARE (they did it TWICE, by the way). They don't care about Bella either, they constantly put her in danger and treat her like an object, why WOULDN'T Jacob try to get her away from them?

And Bella defending the Cullens, but not ONCE defending Jacob or the wolves from the Cullens and the disgusting things they said THAT WEREN'T TRUE.

And the two page rant I wrote about Jacob imprinting on Renasty (that is legit what I kept calling her) holds up so much that my sister is re-reading the series right now. Jacob is legitimately terrified of imprinting and having what little control he has left taken from him. And when it happens, it is legit HORRIFYING. He's untethered from everything that made him an individual, his life becomes all about Renasty

I don't hate Twilight, mainly because it was part of my formative years. But I DO kinda hate Meyers for the shit she wrote and I hate a chunk of the fandom who share her mindset. My sister might join those ranks lmao.

[papenathys]

"What if I rewrote Twilight but it was not racist and it was not creepy and it had lesbians and was communist and didn't have a pregnancy plotline and-" then you wouldn't rewrite Twilight, you would write an original vampire story, hope this helps <3

[watchmenanon]

A must watch!

[superbrieflightstudentlove]

Bella’s Selfish Investment in Jacob and Renesmee’s Relationship

In Twilight, Bella Swan’s acceptance of Jacob Black imprinting on her newborn daughter, Renesmee, is often presented as a result of her trust in Jacob and her belief in the supernatural mechanics of imprinting. However, a deeper analysis of her motivations reveals a more self-serving reason: Bella gets to have everything she wants without making any sacrifices. She chooses Edward and the immortal life of a vampire while still keeping Jacob, her "best friend," tethered to her life and family. Her willingness to embrace the imprinting bond is less about what is best for Renesmee and more about preserving her own perfect reality.

Jacob as Bella’s Emotional Security Blanket

Throughout the series, Bella struggles with the choice between Edward and Jacob. While her romantic love for Edward ultimately wins, she still harbors a deep emotional attachment to Jacob. When she chooses Edward, she knows it causes Jacob immense pain, which in turn makes her feel guilty. Jacob imprinting on Renesmee provides her with an instant resolution to this dilemma—he is now bound to her family forever, but in a way that removes the romantic conflict. This means Bella can keep Jacob close without feeling guilty for breaking his heart. She never truly has to let him go, making imprinting an incredibly convenient solution for her emotional struggle.

The Illusion of a “Perfect Family”

Bella has always wanted Jacob to be a part of her family, and imprinting makes this a reality. She directly admits to wanting Jacob in her life permanently, even imagining a scenario in which he was her cousin or brother. When Jacob imprints on Renesmee, it cements his role in her life in a way that does not threaten her relationship with Edward. For Bella, this is the best of both worlds: she gets her soulmate, and she also gets to keep her best friend as part of her new vampire existence.

This arrangement creates an illusion of a perfect family dynamic, where past heartbreaks and conflicts are erased. However, this vision depends entirely on Renesmee reciprocating Jacob’s imprint-induced feelings when she comes of age. If she were to reject Jacob, it would disrupt Bella’s carefully maintained fantasy of unity and harmony.

Why Renesmee’s Rejection of Jacob Would Shatter Bella’s Illusion

If Renesmee were to reject Jacob, Bella would be forced to confront the uncomfortable truth that imprinting does not guarantee happiness. This would mean that Jacob’s lifelong devotion was not a perfect solution after all, and it would also bring back Bella’s unresolved guilt about the pain she caused him. If Renesmee does not fulfill her supposed destiny by loving Jacob in return, Bella’s carefully maintained illusion of a happy, conflict-free family would crumble.

Additionally, Bella’s acceptance of imprinting hinges on the idea that it is an inescapable fate. If Renesmee were to exercise agency and refuse the bond, it would challenge the very foundation of Bella’s justification for Jacob’s role in her life. She would have to admit that she enabled a potentially harmful dynamic rather than a predestined romance, which would make her complicit in Jacob’s suffering rather than a passive bystander.

Bella’s Subconscious Investment in Jacob’s Happiness

At her core, Bella wants to feel absolved of the guilt she carries over choosing Edward and rejecting Jacob. If Renesmee accepts Jacob as her partner, it means that Bella’s decision did not ultimately hurt Jacob in the long run—it would mean that everything worked out "as it was supposed to." Her investment in their relationship succeeding is not purely about what is best for her daughter but about what makes her feel better about herself.

By securing Jacob within her family, she removes any lingering sense of regret, allowing herself to believe that she never truly lost him—he just took on a different role. This subconscious investment is what makes it crucial for her that Renesmee and Jacob end up together. If they do not, it disrupts the narrative she has built for herself, one in which no one really loses, and all choices lead to a happy ending.

Conclusion

Bella’s acceptance of Jacob imprinting on Renesmee is not just about trusting the supernatural process—it is about securing her own ideal reality. By ensuring Jacob remains in her life without romantic complications, she gets to have it all: her eternal love with Edward and the continued presence of her best friend. However, this vision depends entirely on Renesmee conforming to expectations. If she were to reject Jacob, Bella would have to face the fact that imprinting does not erase past pain and that her perfect family was built on a fragile foundation. Her support for their relationship is, at its core, a means of self-preservation—allowing her to avoid confronting her guilt while maintaining the illusion that no one ever truly got hurt.

[mccall-fam-on-crack]

I just realized that the largest residential boarding school was named Carlisle. So not only does SM have a confederate soldier as a main character but named another after a school that has brought nothing but pain in every way to thousands of people, ranging from the students that attend, to their parents and their children, and to every one of their bloodlines later generations. And to have a real tribe in her books that she used to her advantage. She didn't ask, she didn't respect them in any way, all for money and fame.

[pieisnotreal]

If the Twilight series has 0 haters I am dead

[fandomlife-confessions]

[ebster777]

I don't think I've ever gotten into the depths of Leah Clear waters disrespect but now that I have.... I feel a way about it.

The racism in Twilight is crazy

[darkcrowprincess]

Controversial Opinion:

there are zero benefits to being a twilight Vampire. You can't sleep or eat anymore. Not even to mix blood with anything because food automatically tastes like ash. The only way to avoid killing humans is to eat animals. And it still sucks because it will never fully satisfy you. Your always a hair trigger away from killing someone because the blood thirst is that bad. You can't fly or turn into a bat. Which is one of my favorite things about vampires the flying and the turning into cute bats.

The only things that can kill you is this tribe in Forks that can turn into big wolves or the vampire mafia ripping you to pieces and burning the remains. If you live near said tribe in Forks you end up ruining their lives because your very presence activates their wolf defense mechanism. You look like an idiot in the sunlight and sparkle like a disco ball. You have to constantly be careful of your strength because you can easily kill something with a flick of your finger. When your not hunting for blood your constantly either bored or having to pretend to be a high school kid forever? And you can only have sex with other vampires because you can easily kill humans. Like what benefits do you get from being a vampire forever? Being an immortal cold mannequin were your family dies in front of you, and your stuck with the most boring toxic person forever? No thank you.

Stephanie Meyer just sucked out all the gothic emo tim burton fun things about being a vampire and I won't have it. Thank you Smeyer for forever adding your sucky ideas to Vampire lore. 🧛‍♂️

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)

[littlelovelover723]

Twilight saga

[averinna]

If you want to know why any romance novels with an abusive love interest ever become popular just look in what character the self insert shipper change their fave

[starlight-bread-blog]

"I've stalked you to protect you against your consent".

[devotedgossamerreader]

i was today years old when i learned that the twilight movies effectively erased the true history of victims of nazi fascism by REPURPOSING a celebration of their liberation at the end of WWII into a vampire thing for Edward to try and romeo and juliet himself

what?@?!×<$(+