#anti twilight

[circumpolarvampire]

Idk guys I think the woman who wrote an actual tribe to be literal dog monsters might be a racist, and the lady who thought it wasn't that big of a deal is also racist

[polyamorousmood]

I realized I was okay with my partner having other partners by the time I was 13 (though I didn't have a word for it at the time) and the reason I realized this was because I was so full of seething hatred (the kind only 13 year olds are capable of) for the love triangle in twilight that by the time I got to the third book I was like "who CARES if she has two boyfriends. I wouldn't care if my partner had other partners as long as I knew about it and everyone was okay with it. Anything is better than this nonsense"

I realized this several years before I realized I liked girls. I'm a lesbian. Anyway I just think "realizing you're poly via twilight hate" is objectively hilarious but it does, unfortunately, mean that twilight was a formative experience for me.

Twilight defined a generation. Love it🫶 or hate it🤬, it still shaped you. Very few escaped this fate.

Your fate, specifically, though, is objectively hilarious

Seriously though, at least you got something worthwhile out of the books! I often think it is easier to define ourselves first by what we are NOT than by what we ARE, so I can't say I'm surprised. Hating love triangles seems to be a common theme with us polyams 😂

[thebellekeys]

Exhibit A: here

Exhibit B: here

[icedsodapop]

Something something... the difference between how Stephanie Meyer depicts women in relation to the fantastical creature they are associated with.... something something... for White women, being associated with vampires is empowering for them, protects them... something something... but for Native American women, being associated with werewolves brings them nothing but pain and suffering judging by how the most prominent Ndn female characters, Leah and Emily, are treated within the narrative.... hmm, interesting...

[papenathys]

"What if I rewrote Twilight but it was not racist and it was not creepy and it had lesbians and was communist and didn't have a pregnancy plotline and-" then you wouldn't rewrite Twilight, you would write an original vampire story, hope this helps <3

[superbrieflightstudentlove]

Bella’s Selfish Investment in Jacob and Renesmee’s Relationship

In Twilight, Bella Swan’s acceptance of Jacob Black imprinting on her newborn daughter, Renesmee, is often presented as a result of her trust in Jacob and her belief in the supernatural mechanics of imprinting. However, a deeper analysis of her motivations reveals a more self-serving reason: Bella gets to have everything she wants without making any sacrifices. She chooses Edward and the immortal life of a vampire while still keeping Jacob, her "best friend," tethered to her life and family. Her willingness to embrace the imprinting bond is less about what is best for Renesmee and more about preserving her own perfect reality.

Jacob as Bella’s Emotional Security Blanket

Throughout the series, Bella struggles with the choice between Edward and Jacob. While her romantic love for Edward ultimately wins, she still harbors a deep emotional attachment to Jacob. When she chooses Edward, she knows it causes Jacob immense pain, which in turn makes her feel guilty. Jacob imprinting on Renesmee provides her with an instant resolution to this dilemma—he is now bound to her family forever, but in a way that removes the romantic conflict. This means Bella can keep Jacob close without feeling guilty for breaking his heart. She never truly has to let him go, making imprinting an incredibly convenient solution for her emotional struggle.

The Illusion of a “Perfect Family”

Bella has always wanted Jacob to be a part of her family, and imprinting makes this a reality. She directly admits to wanting Jacob in her life permanently, even imagining a scenario in which he was her cousin or brother. When Jacob imprints on Renesmee, it cements his role in her life in a way that does not threaten her relationship with Edward. For Bella, this is the best of both worlds: she gets her soulmate, and she also gets to keep her best friend as part of her new vampire existence.

This arrangement creates an illusion of a perfect family dynamic, where past heartbreaks and conflicts are erased. However, this vision depends entirely on Renesmee reciprocating Jacob’s imprint-induced feelings when she comes of age. If she were to reject Jacob, it would disrupt Bella’s carefully maintained fantasy of unity and harmony.

Why Renesmee’s Rejection of Jacob Would Shatter Bella’s Illusion

If Renesmee were to reject Jacob, Bella would be forced to confront the uncomfortable truth that imprinting does not guarantee happiness. This would mean that Jacob’s lifelong devotion was not a perfect solution after all, and it would also bring back Bella’s unresolved guilt about the pain she caused him. If Renesmee does not fulfill her supposed destiny by loving Jacob in return, Bella’s carefully maintained illusion of a happy, conflict-free family would crumble.

Additionally, Bella’s acceptance of imprinting hinges on the idea that it is an inescapable fate. If Renesmee were to exercise agency and refuse the bond, it would challenge the very foundation of Bella’s justification for Jacob’s role in her life. She would have to admit that she enabled a potentially harmful dynamic rather than a predestined romance, which would make her complicit in Jacob’s suffering rather than a passive bystander.

Bella’s Subconscious Investment in Jacob’s Happiness

At her core, Bella wants to feel absolved of the guilt she carries over choosing Edward and rejecting Jacob. If Renesmee accepts Jacob as her partner, it means that Bella’s decision did not ultimately hurt Jacob in the long run—it would mean that everything worked out "as it was supposed to." Her investment in their relationship succeeding is not purely about what is best for her daughter but about what makes her feel better about herself.

By securing Jacob within her family, she removes any lingering sense of regret, allowing herself to believe that she never truly lost him—he just took on a different role. This subconscious investment is what makes it crucial for her that Renesmee and Jacob end up together. If they do not, it disrupts the narrative she has built for herself, one in which no one really loses, and all choices lead to a happy ending.

Conclusion

Bella’s acceptance of Jacob imprinting on Renesmee is not just about trusting the supernatural process—it is about securing her own ideal reality. By ensuring Jacob remains in her life without romantic complications, she gets to have it all: her eternal love with Edward and the continued presence of her best friend. However, this vision depends entirely on Renesmee conforming to expectations. If she were to reject Jacob, Bella would have to face the fact that imprinting does not erase past pain and that her perfect family was built on a fragile foundation. Her support for their relationship is, at its core, a means of self-preservation—allowing her to avoid confronting her guilt while maintaining the illusion that no one ever truly got hurt.

[mccall-fam-on-crack]

I just realized that the largest residential boarding school was named Carlisle. So not only does SM have a confederate soldier as a main character but named another after a school that has brought nothing but pain in every way to thousands of people, ranging from the students that attend, to their parents and their children, and to every one of their bloodlines later generations. And to have a real tribe in her books that she used to her advantage. She didn't ask, she didn't respect them in any way, all for money and fame.

[fandomlife-confessions]

[sukibenders]

Me when I see people compare the Cullens calling/referring to Jacob and the rest of the wolf pack as "dogs", "mutts" or "mongrels" to being the same as them being called "bloodsuckers" "leeches" or even, in Rosalie's case "blonde.":

[ebster777]

I don't think I've ever gotten into the depths of Leah Clear waters disrespect but now that I have.... I feel a way about it.

The racism in Twilight is crazy

[darkcrowprincess]

Controversial Opinion:

there are zero benefits to being a twilight Vampire. You can't sleep or eat anymore. Not even to mix blood with anything because food automatically tastes like ash. The only way to avoid killing humans is to eat animals. And it still sucks because it will never fully satisfy you. Your always a hair trigger away from killing someone because the blood thirst is that bad. You can't fly or turn into a bat. Which is one of my favorite things about vampires the flying and the turning into cute bats.

The only things that can kill you is this tribe in Forks that can turn into big wolves or the vampire mafia ripping you to pieces and burning the remains. If you live near said tribe in Forks you end up ruining their lives because your very presence activates their wolf defense mechanism. You look like an idiot in the sunlight and sparkle like a disco ball. You have to constantly be careful of your strength because you can easily kill something with a flick of your finger. When your not hunting for blood your constantly either bored or having to pretend to be a high school kid forever? And you can only have sex with other vampires because you can easily kill humans. Like what benefits do you get from being a vampire forever? Being an immortal cold mannequin were your family dies in front of you, and your stuck with the most boring toxic person forever? No thank you.

Stephanie Meyer just sucked out all the gothic emo tim burton fun things about being a vampire and I won't have it. Thank you Smeyer for forever adding your sucky ideas to Vampire lore. 🧛‍♂️

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you)

[saccharinerose]

SJM fae are to fae what Twilight vampires are to vampires

[starlight-bread-blog]

"I've stalked you to protect you against your consent".

[pieisnotreal]

If the Twilight series has 0 haters I am dead

[devotedgossamerreader]

i was today years old when i learned that the twilight movies effectively erased the true history of victims of nazi fascism by REPURPOSING a celebration of their liberation at the end of WWII into a vampire thing for Edward to try and romeo and juliet himself

what?@?!×<$(+

[superbrieflightstudentlove]

The Disturbing Ethical Issues of Jacob and Edward’s Actions in Breaking Dawn

The Twilight series, despite its popularity, contains numerous problematic elements, especially regarding the treatment of Bella and Renesmee. Beyond the unsettling concept of imprinting, a particularly disturbing aspect of Breaking Dawn is how Jacob initially wanted to kill Renesmee and only stopped because he imprinted on her at the last moment. Additionally, Edward’s actions during Bella’s pregnancy raise serious ethical concerns, as he actively sought Jacob’s help in persuading Bella to have an abortion under manipulative pretenses. This essay will explore these unsettling themes and their implications regarding autonomy, consent, and morality.

1. Jacob’s Initial Desire to Kill Renesmee

Jacob Black, once deeply in love with Bella, views Renesmee as an abomination before he imprints on her. He initially sees her as a monster that is responsible for Bella’s suffering and assumes she must be destroyed. His abrupt reversal—shifting from wanting her dead to becoming her eternal protector and future romantic partner—happens purely because of imprinting, not because he naturally develops a paternal or protective instinct. This transition suggests that Jacob’s emotions are not based on free will but rather on supernatural coercion, which raises severe ethical concerns. It also means that, had the imprinting not occurred, he would have gone through with murdering an innocent child simply because of his preconceived biases.

2. Edward’s Manipulative Plan Behind Bella’s Back

During Bella’s pregnancy, Edward is desperate to save her life as the half-vampire fetus is draining her from within. Rather than supporting Bella in making her own decisions, he approaches Jacob with a proposition that is both disturbing and unethical: he suggests that Jacob convince Bella to abort Renesmee so that she can later conceive Jacob’s biological children instead. This means Edward is essentially offering his wife’s body as a surrogate womb for another man’s offspring without her initial knowledge or consent. The idea that two men are conspiring to decide the fate of a woman’s body without her involvement reinforces deeply problematic themes of patriarchal control.

3. The Lack of Bella’s Agency

Bella, throughout much of the series, struggles to exert control over her own body and choices. In Breaking Dawn, her pregnancy becomes a battleground where the men around her—especially Edward and Jacob—try to dictate her decisions. Edward, who has always prided himself on his supposed love for Bella, bypasses her autonomy by seeking Jacob’s influence to persuade her into terminating the pregnancy. This highlights a deeply unsettling dynamic where Bella’s own husband does not trust her to make her own choices. That he even considers offering her as a mother for Jacob’s children demonstrates a lack of respect for her bodily autonomy and personal agency.

4. The Underlying Themes of Ownership and Control

This entire situation reinforces troubling themes of male ownership over female bodies. Edward, despite loving Bella, treats her pregnancy as a problem that must be solved on his terms, and Jacob—who still harbors feelings for Bella—becomes a participant in this scheme. That they make these decisions in secret, without Bella’s initial knowledge, reflects a broader issue in Twilight: the idea that women’s bodies are subject to male decision-making rather than being fully their own. Even when Bella eventually chooses to keep the baby, it is after an exhausting battle where her will is constantly questioned, rather than a decision that is inherently respected from the start.

Conclusion

While Twilight is often framed as a romance series, it is riddled with deeply problematic ethical concerns. Jacob’s abrupt shift from wanting to kill Renesmee to being bound to her via imprinting strips him of his free will and emphasizes the coercive nature of supernatural destiny. Meanwhile, Edward’s willingness to secretly manipulate Bella’s reproductive choices, even going so far as to suggest that Jacob impregnate her instead, reveals a deeply disturbing perspective on consent and bodily autonomy. These moments highlight how Twilight romanticizes control, coercion, and the idea that male figures should have the final say over a woman’s body—issues that should not be ignored when critically analyzing the series.