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hemipenal-system · 5 months ago
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If I consent to a man breaking my jaw and ripping out my nails, the man who agrees to do it is a bad person. An extreme example but it should drive the point home, no?
Doesn't matter if I consent to being choked. Whoever WANTS to choke someone out to get off is a bad person.
Whoever wants to pretend to be raping or abusing someone to get off is a bad person.
"an extreme example but it should drive the point home, no"
no?? if you know the risks and accept them and give unhindered, clear and informed consent, then no, there's actually nothing wrong with someone doing that stuff to you. because, and viewers at home can say it with me, THAT IS HOW CONSENT WORKS
but y'know, what we're *actually* gonna look at here is the assumption that the person doing that to you is a man. maybe y'all would stop seeing kink as an inherent expression of patriarchy if you internalized the fact that not every man is dominant and not every woman is submissive. also, you know, that there are gay people.
but no, because that would require you to actually deconstruct the ideas you have in your head about how every man has to be an aggressor and how testosterone makes people violent and how every man secretly wants to do this kind of thing to every vulnerable, weak woman, the implication being of course that any woman who engages in this kind of thing by choice has something wrong with her
which is fully just misogyny but thats a tangent from the actual point here
"Doesn't matter if I consent to being choked. Whoever WANTS to choke someone out to get off is a bad person."
furthermore, i think you should also deconstruct this idea that kink spaces are all dominants who want to hurt their submissives, when in reality it's a dominant doing those things because they know their sub likes it just as much if not more of the time.
let's look at that "doesn't matter if i consent to being choked" line. um. yes it does?? knowing your risks and giving informed consent is literally the entire thing here. you do know that there are safe* ways to choke someone that are legitimately taught to people in an attempt to minimize permanent harm from that sort of thing, right? when you see things like "don't use thin metal handcuffs on your partner" and "keep safety shears within arm's reach when doing ropeplay" and "drink gatorade and go pee after sex" you know those are all things people do to reduce risk, right?
(* no form of breathplay is 100% safe! know the risks and do research on how to minimize them before you play!!!)
"Whoever wants to pretend to be raping or abusing someone to get off is a bad person."
hey look at that key word i italicized in that quote for your ease of reading! it's all pretend! because, once again, viewers at home say it with me, THAT IS HOW CONSENT WORKS
there's no actual rape or abuse happening if you have proper consent and safe word setups in place. the key to this whole thing, which is why any of this stuff is actually possible to do ethically, is the fact that, at any time for any reason at all, either the dominant or the submissive can stop the scene. literally all kink is, is an ongoing, revokable agreement between at least two people to do things that might not be ethical irl.
(before y'all toss another strawman at this, yes there are people who break consent rules, and yes they get tossed out of kink spaces for it)
kink is fucking theater. when hamlet stabs polonius, you don't accuse hamlet's actor of being a murderer. this is morally the exact same thing as going to the theater and watching people talk in iambic pentameter and stab each other.
there's also kinks that have basically negligible risk of temporary or permanent harm, just so you know, but of course you're not going to mention those ones. you know, because you're a weirdo who just wants to police what people do in the bedroom
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temeyes · 11 months ago
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allthingswhumpyandangsty · 9 months ago
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Tw: SA
Do you have any prompts of someone who experienced SA coming to?
I’ve done some research of what it may be like and I’m trying to handle it as respectfully as possible without it being too detailed (in a way that may exaggerate, downplay, or horribly triggering) but I haven’t really found many resources. I wouldn’t want to seem disrespectful by just bluntly asking survivors about it but from what I *have* found isn’t enough to have a general writing idea for it.
Any help is greatly appreciated, and any thoughts is also understandable! Make sure to take breaks and take care of yourself!!
trigger warning: mentions of sexual assault
flinching. lots of flinching. whumpee flinched away when caretaker gently tapped them on the shoulder from behind. caretaker didn’t mean to startle them, they (caretaker) were still learning to adapt to whumpee’s PTSD, but sometimes they felt like they kept messing up and harming whumpee more as a result.
miscommunication and misunderstanding; whumpee believing caretaker was angry at them for being “weak and jumpy”.
if whumpee and caretaker were lovers, the assault could affect them in terms of their being intimate with each other. the thought process whumpee went through may be these;
whumpee being scared of having sex, even if it was with their lover, after what happened.
whumpee feeling ‘guilty’ (though it wasn’t their fault at all) when their partner told them it was okay if they weren’t ready, because they felt like they were keeping their partner waiting, and eventually their partner would expect them to be ready. but what if they could never be ready again? would their lover force them or would they leave them for someone else then? or would they be disappointed in them? — and whumpee didn’t even know if they wanted their partner to find someone else who’d be ready, because while they felt guilty for not being able to give their partner what they wanted (sex), they didn’t want to lose their partner either. *this didn’t mean their partner wanted only sex, but whumpee’s own mind was their biggest enemy right now and therefore they believed their partner prioritized sex over their recovery and mental health, which didn’t always have to be true.
self hate. whumpee could be disgusted with themself, especially their own body, for what happened. maybe they believed they were dirty and unworthy of being loved now. (again, this couldn’t be further from the truth, but whumpee’s mind kept telling them all these thoughts, and for someone who went through that, it was hard not to be convinced by these thoughts).
when whumpee looked at caretaker or anyone else, all they saw was pity. and that only made things worse.
whumpee believing all they were now was a piece of rotting meat, and that was all they’d ever be. this was their own mind poisoning them with untrue thinking, but the struggle was very much real nonetheless.
maybe caretaker was as struggling as whumpee was, trying to help whumpee recover and help whumpee learn to love themself again.
maybe caretaker blamed themself for not being able to protect whumpee when the assault happened. caretaker kept replaying in their head all the things they could have done differently that would have prevented the assault from happening; maybe if they had been there with whumpee, if they had picked up the phone, etc.
to sum up, everything would be a struggle. not just for whumpee but also for whumpee’s friends and family and everyone who loved and cared about them.
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anxiouslowercase · 3 months ago
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katerinaaqu · 2 months ago
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hello :D I hope you’re doing well! I really liked your understanding and knowledge of Greek mythology and as someone who also really likes it and always wants to learn more I’m often in spaces that discus such things. But there is a little “problem” that I have encountered and I just wanted to maybe ask you to know if you know more about it! Long story short I saw a video discussing calypso and a comment saying that ppl who say that she 🍇 ed Odysseus didn’t read the story well enough. They also said that they only slept one time together which is when he left and that was consensual apparently. I didn’t read the odyssey in a bit and wanted to ask if there’s like a specific part that you remember that says the opposite. Idk if what I asked really makes sense so if you can answer tysm!!
Hello and I am doing okay thank you very much Anon.
Thank you very much for the compliment and your kind words and it is great that we see more people actually getting interested to the ACTUAL material and it is always great to have new people into this reading and understanding process.
I have answered or analized on that matter before but it is always great to do so again and again! ^_^
I see so again we have more on this rape denial (and yeah I am using the actual word! No euphemisms and censory of words in this house! Hahahaha!) well then the person who said that probably forgot this passage here:
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However the nights he was sleeping with her at her hollow caves out of necessity for even if she was willing, he was not
(Translation by me)
I believe the most important part eludes this OP that said that because I don't believe that Homer added the last words there by chance. He specifically uses the terms οὐκ ἐθέλων ἐθελούσῃ
οὐκ ἐθέλων -> adv. negative form m. that shows opposition "even if he was not willing.
ἐθελούσῃ -> adv. positive form, dative f. "by the willing" or "at the side of the willing"
Which is why many translators translate this small phrase as "unwilling lover by the side of the willing" So it clearly indicates rape given how I doubt that Homer indicated they were just...cuddling by each other's side for 7 years! So it is an indicator of the lack of free will. In fact the word ἀνάγκῃ (coming from the verb ἀναγκάζω or ἀναγκάσσω which means "to force") indicates need but not the need as "I need you badly" but as "I have no choice" or "I am forced to" either by the circumstances or by someone clearly imposing their will upon me. So there is a clear of factor of force here. So by definition rape.
So I will break down the rest and sorry if it is long.
Now there is a phrase, which I also memorize to this other post of mine here:
Which is this as you can see from my post:
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Because he didn't like the nymph anymore
(Translation by me)
Given that this οὐκέτι means "no longer" or "no more" seems to be indicating to some readers of the Odyssey that the whole thing started willingly and that at some point Odysseus got bored of her and stopped it. However I disagree with that reading for many reasons. For once that the term ἁνδάνω -> past tense ἥνδανε means "to please" or "to gratify" but not necessarily in a sexual way. It generally means any form of gratification or likeness (even though in modern times we have connected the verb more with sexual gratification or ηδονή in modern greek) so I also agree more to the translators who also interpret the passage as "her sight no longer pleased him" aka after years and years of being a prisoner, all the likeness and gratitude he had for her as a person is gone (see also my other post)
Two I do not like this reading because many people who see it that way also deny the rape as that person in the comments. As I have stated to some other replies of mine, the affair starting willingly doesn't exclude the rape. Even if we say that Odysseus started it or accepted it (and as I said I doubt it given the context) Calypso was still raping him at that point. Either he was unwilling from the very beginning and Calypso was forcing herself on him, not taking no for an answer, or he at some point had a change of mind and wanted to stop and Calypso didn't take no for an answer.
Now for the part that the OP in question mentions that "they have sex only once". Yeah technically speaking there is only one scene in the Odyssey that could be interpreted as of sexual nature and is spoken in only one lyric, as I mention to my post I liked and it's this one:
People who interpret that Odysseus started the affair willingly, for some reason by n large also think that the rape is not a thing. I mean would they say the same for let's say a girl nowadays, starting an relationship with a boyfriend, eventually she realized he is not for her, she decided to stop it but the boyfriend would't take no for an answer and continuing forcing himself on her, wouldn't we call it a rape at that point regardless on the smooth beginning?
Then why would anyone who for their own personal reasons read the passage as Odysseus willingly starting the affair and then wishing to stop it but Calypso not having it assumes that Odysseus was not raped?
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And they enjoyed closeness resting by each other's side
(Translation by me)
On a much darker note, Odysseus was abused constantly for years. The existence of the goddess as the only source of warmth and close contact he had for years (no matter how forceful) might have done something to him enough to just try and reconsile fully with Calypso. Someone might say that this is...too modern to say but honestly I doubt it. Homer was a master of expressing psychology and in later passage made Odysseus totally unwilling to be touched by Nausicaa's servant girls and wished to bathe himself instead. It is not like the Phaeaces would recognize him or his scar at that point to fear for his identity (not to mention he was already naked anyways) but he uses as an excuse that "he is ashamed". Being washed by female servants was customary and not seen as shameful in ancient Greece.
So for starters yes it seems that the scene is positive of emotions given the verb τέρπω "delight" or "enjoy" so the whole verb "to force" seems to fly out the window and then comes the word φιλότης which I assume people who read some words in Greek know that comes from he verb φιλέω-ώ which in ancient Greek meant "to love" so they translate the word φιλότης as "love". Honestly is not hard to see why given how other parts of homeric poems (more specifically during the Deception of Zeus) the same phrase pops up to signify lovemaking.
However the interesting part is that the word does not mean just love. It also means "friendship" or "reconsiliation" or just "closeness". I also find it interesting how people ignore the passage of "sleeping by her side although not willing" as a sign that nothing happened between them but they are very much certain that this passage here implies sexual scenes. As I mention to the post I linked it seems more likely that the passage translates "they enjoyed closeness resting by each other's sides" and that also of course imply mutual enjoyment of their reconsiliation possibly because Odysseus was happy to finally return home and Calypso took an oath that she didn't aim to trick him. Another thing is what could Odysseus do basically? Hold a grudge against an immortal goddess? How? Much more BEFORE he had the chance to build his raft?
Odysseus denies the help of women because he doesn't seem ready to accept a female touch just yet!
Homer also doesn't imply that Odysseus's stay at Calypso's island was in any shape or form willing. In fact Athena, Zeus and Homer himself all alike speak on how Odysseus was being kept against his will and nowhere in the passage apart from these small ones that I give here was it implied that Odysseus was being there pleasantly but rather that he was imprisoned or retained perforce. And that is without counting Odysseus's own words that neither of the goddesses got his heart and that both retained him. Odysseus also speaks with fear on both but Calypso in particular. Yeah he isn't hateful to them but again what can he do? He was roaming about for 10 years with the worst consequences because he was offensive to one god. I doubt he would want to badmouth any other no matter how small. And he also wants to appear pleasant to the eyes of his hosts to gain their sympathy so he doesn't really badmouth anyone apart from calling Calyspo and Circe "terrifying" or "dreadful" and occasionally his men "careless" or "mindless"
I think it is up for everyone's conscious to interpret his affair with Calypso starting willingly (and even then "willing" seems interesting to say the very least given that, as we said, Calypso was literally the only contact with anything remotely human Odysseus had for years. Even if we assume that for some reason he started an affair or accepted it, even the setting is messed up; loneliness, loss, mourning, fear for a powerful goddess etc) he still was being held prisoner and forced one way or another.
I hope that makes sense and I am sorry I was so long.
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Some other parts that I replied on the matter of Calypso and consequently Circe:
And this is my reply to another person who did analyze the passage differently so you will have that idea as well and I also elaborate on my counter-arguements as well (and the discussion was really productive as well and the OP was really open and respectful to other insights and I was happy to contribute to the conversation:
Sorry again for the long reply!
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ecoustsaintmein · 9 days ago
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petitprincess1 · 1 year ago
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Hey, I just saw a post on Twitter stating something about an uncensored sexual assault scene, and that it's horrible. I honestly don't know what to say about it other than Hazbin Hotel is an ADULT ANIMATED web series with ADULT content. I don't know.
Man, I can't believe there's gonna be an SA scene with Angel Dust, even tho it's been established that he's an SA victim. 😑
I mean, even Addict shows SA. It's not going to be as graphic but still. I even saw someone say that they hope A24 pulls the plug on Viv. They clearly have not seen a single A24 movie or anything if they think that is too much for them.
Also, that same person legit said "nu-uh" when Vivzie said she's an SA victim. Like....how do you say no to that? x3
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clangenrising · 21 days ago
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It is very interesting to me that Luna is into cnc considering how prevalent rape is in their kitty cat society. Like she's seen firsthand how that effects others and romanticizes it... I'm sure nothing will go wrong with others seeing them and assuming the worst and ruining their alliances. Surely.
It is an interesting juxtaposition to be sure.
The thing about kinks/fetishes is that you can't really control which ones you have and the reasons we develop them are complicated and not completely understood. Luna doesn't have any personal trauma around sexual assault but often survivors can develop CNC kinks as a way of processing that experience.
It's also not uncommon for people, especially women, in repressive social environments to fetishize non consent because it gives them an excuse to be sexual. If you're expected to be perfectly chaste and pure and never even think about wanting sex, it can be liberating to imagine a scenario where someone comes in and forces that sexuality upon you, therby taking away the guilt in the interaction. You aren't a sinner and a slut, you're a poor girl who had no choice in the matter. It's the same reason why lots of women's romance depicts men who force expensive gifts onto the protagonist despite her saying she doesn't want them -- they get to indulge in the fantasy of owning fancy things without the guilt of being greedy or materialistic.
And in Luna's case specifically, her fascination with the concept is in part influenced by her fetishization of Floodstrike as a 'wild' cat. It's like how white women fetishize black men as these virile, sexually aggressive studs. She likes the idea of Floodstrike as this savage, noble warrior who has come to take the bounties of the city including her. Not to spoil anything, but that's the part that really makes Floodstrike uncomfortable, the way that Luna unconciously flattens him into a stereotype and not a person.
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traumasurvivors · 4 months ago
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i struggle a lot with invalidating my assault because i was coerced & i feel like it was my fault
I understand feeling invalidated. A lot of people who have been through trauma do. And I’m sorry you’re struggling with that.
Consent is a freely given yes. Coercion is not freely given.
It was not your fault. There are a lot of reasons people do things when they’re being coerced and often it’s because they feel unsafe saying “no” repeatedly. Even if it wasn’t that you felt unsafe, you’re still valid.
You shouldn’t have been pressured, coerced or anything along those lines. I’m so sorry you were 💛
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melobin · 6 months ago
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have you heard of the news? and to say that ive never expected him to be like that shows that there are much more criminals in the industry tbh.. we never know whats behind someone
yeah honestly i hope they all get exposed and i hope they all rot in hell and die idgaf about these criminals they don’t deserve to live
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muddyorbsblr · 5 months ago
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this is the most accurate infographic of our whorish condition that i've ever seen. tho there should definitely be a "seeing a picture of his hands" somewhere in that "Causes" section because hoo boi howdy one pic of that man's hands and once again i find myself in that familiar downward whoring spiral 🫠🫠
@smolvenger @holdmytesseract @lokisgoodgirl @lokischambermaid @liminalpebble
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vodika-vibes · 10 months ago
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“you’re mine“ for alpha 17 pretty please 😮‍💨🙏🏻
All Mine
Summary: Alpha-17 is a possessive man and everyone knows not to touch when he considers his. It’s unfortunate that the new trainer didn’t get that memo. Well. Unfortunate for him.
Pairing: Alpha-17 x F!Reader
Word Count: 1446
Warnings: Attempted SA. It isn't shown in detail, and it's more hinted around, but please be careful if you think it might trigger you.
Tagging: @trixie2023 @n0vqni @imabeautifulbutterfly
A/N: Alright. So this is, quite literally, the oldest ask in my inbox and I'm so so so sorry that it took me so long to get to it! Please forgive me!
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Alpha-17 stretches his legs out in front of him from where he’s sitting in “his” chair in her office on Kamino. His chair, in the sense that no one else sits in it. Partly because the only time people come to this particular office is when they need tech support.
Not that he minds. It means that he has plenty of time to be alone with his cyare.
And he can never have enough of that.
He watches her work for a moment, her gaze focused on the pile of datapads stacked on the desk in front of her. She mentioned, earlier, that these needed to be formatted for the up and coming cadets, and that she’d be working on it all day.
It is her way of informing him that she’s not going to be able to give him a lot of attention while she’s working. Her way of suggesting that he spend the day doing something more worthwhile than watching her work.
Alpha knows that she worries about him getting bored.
As if he could ever get bored when she’s in his line of sight. Even if she’s wearing the formless uniform that the Kaminoans require.
“You’re staring at me, Alpha.” Her voice is light, though she doesn’t look up from her work.
“You don’t want me to stare then you shouldn’t be looking so pretty.” Alpha counters.
She finally lifts her gaze and shoots him an amused look, “Alpha, I’m wearing a formless uniform, and my hair is pulled into a bun, and I’m not even wearing make-up.”
“And yet you’re still stunning, if you were wearing make-up and did your hair no one would ever get any work done around here.” Alpha teases with a crooked grin.
“You’re not getting any work done anyway,” She points out, with her own teasing smile.
“It won’t kill the cadets to wait a little bit before their training starts.”
“They’re not cadets, Alpha, they’re up and coming ARCs and you’re going to give them anxiety.”
“Good. It’ll keep them alive.”
“Alpha!”
He grins at her, “Don’t worry, cyare. I’ll get to them before they get into any trouble.” She looks doubtful, and his grin widens, “What? Don’t you trust me?”
“Of course I trust you, but I also know you, Alpha-17.”
He chuckles and pushes to his feet to cross the room in several long strides, before ducking his head to drop a kiss to her cheek, “I’ll see you this afternoon, cyare.”
She turns her head to favor him with a warm smile, “It’s a date.”
Alpha chuckles and takes her hand to press a kiss to her knuckles, before he releases her and saunters out the room, pausing only long enough to tug his helmet over his head.
Wouldn’t do for the little shits to see him in a good mood, after all. He does have a reputation to keep.
Several, very long, hours later—somehow the ARC Cadets seem to get more and more annoying by the day— Alpha keys in the door code to his cyare’s suite and stops just in the door to strip off his armor.
She might not mind having his armor pressed against her, but he doesn’t like the bruises that she gets from the hard ridges of his armor. Not to say that he minds bruising her, because nothing could be further from the truth, but he wants to do the bruising manually.
Does that make him an asshole? Yeah. Probably.
“Cyare, I’m back!”
She pokes her head around a corner, and flashes him a bright smile, “Welcome home, I’m making pasta for dinner.”
“How you manage to work all day and still have time to cook a homemade dinner is beyond me, cyar’ika.” Alpha says with a wry smile as he walks further into the suite and follows her into her “kitchen”, which is really more of a kitchenette, as he’s heard her complain on more than one occasion.
“I am a talented woman,”
“You’ll get no arguments from me,” Alpha agrees, as he bumps his hip against the counter to watch her work. She changed out of her work clothes, and is wearing leggings and one of his shirts, which is curious.
Normally she dons tank tops when she’s relaxing at home, or tee shirts. Never long sleeves.
“Hm...what’s this about?” Alpha asks as he lightly plucks the collar of the shirt, “Since when do you wear long sleeves when you’re relaxing?”
There’s a flicker of something on her face. Not fear, because she’s never been afraid of him in her life, but uncertainty maybe.
Alpha’s eyes narrow, “What happened?”
“Don’t lose your cool-”
“Cyare. What happened?”
She hesitates a moment longer, and then sighs and sets the wooden spoon down on a paper towel. “Before I tell you, I need you to know that I’m fine. Colt stopped...well. Colt helped.”
“Not. Helping.”
“Sorry, sorry.” She tugs up the sleeve of her shirt, revealing a series of bruises on her wrist and up her arm.
Bruises in the shape of hands.
Gently, Alpha takes her arm in his hands and he brushes his fingers over the bruises. They’re smaller than his hands, smaller than any of his brothers too. “What happened?”
“Well, you know how the Kaminoans reached out to a new Mandalorian trainer?”
Something unhappy slides across his face, “Yes.”
“Well...he thought...um...he felt-” She trails off, “Colt stopped him. That’s the important thing.”
Alpha doesn’t say anything for a long time.
“Are you mad?”
“I’m kriffing pissed,” Alpha finally replies, though, as his free hand comes up to caress her cheek, it’s so very gentle, “But not at you. Never at you.”
She presses her cheek into his hand, “I didn’t do anything to encourage-”
“I know, ad’ika. I know.” His voice is low and reassuring before he leans in and lightly brushes his lips against hers, “Why don’t you let me treat this, before we eat dinner, hm?”
She scans his face, “You’re not going to do anything...dramatic? Are you?”
His smile is soft and reassuring, “I will react in a very reasonable way.”
“Reasonable for me, or reasonable for you?” She asks.
Alpha hums thoughtfully, before he brushes his thumb across her cheek, “You’re mine.” There’s a hint of something quietly possessive in his voice, “Don’t worry, ad’ika. He won’t touch you again.”
“...you’re going to kill him, aren’t you?”
Alpha meets her gaze evenly, “Do you really want me to answer that?”
She’s quiet for a long time, and then she smiles softly, “Would you like garlic bread with dinner?”
“I would love some garlic bread with dinner.” Alpha replies, before he drops one more kiss against her lips.
Alpha treats her injuries with a gentle reverence that makes her look at him with adoring eyes, and he remains at her side while they eat dinner, and watch a holo.
In fact, he doesn’t slip out of her quarters until she’s fast asleep in bed, curled around his pillow.
Only then does he drop a feather light kiss to her temple, pull on his armor, and slip out of her suite to deal with the situation.
He runs into Colt first. The younger man straightens and stares at him for a moment, before he produces a blaster and offers it to Alpha, “This blaster vanished from inventory six weeks ago.”
Alpha chuckles as he takes the blaster, “And it’s going to vanish again after tonight?”
Colt shrugs, “It happens.” He steps around Alpha, and then pauses, “Also, there’s been a bug in security. Everything is down for the foreseeable future.”
“Good man.”
“We look after our own, vod.” Colt’s smirk is dark, “Eventually they’ll figure it out. Shoot me a comm when we finish. I’ll help you clean up.”
“Copy that.” The two men go in different direction, Alpha heading deeper into the Trainer’s wing, while Colt headed towards the Cadet Barracks.
The next day, it’s reported that the new trainer has run off, taking all of his belongings and a crate of weapons from storage. It’s also reported that he sabotaged security so no one would see him escape.
When Alpha hears the news, he’s sitting next to her on her bed dressed in his armor.
A smile, slow and dark, slides across his face, and then he’s pressing a gentle kiss against her lips, “Have a good day, Alpha.” She says, soft and sweet, as though she’s not aware that he murdered a man for her the night before.
“I intend to, ad’ika.” He presses one more kiss to her lips, and then he’s gone, it’s time that the ARC cadets learn what it means to be Vod’e.
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loresung · 3 months ago
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Don't you think your posts about Calypso SA'ing Odysseus are a reach? You said yourself it's one line. Why is Calypso the only character you have to hold as true to the Odyssey? No one else gets this treatment.
It's not that I am intentionally holding this one specific character directly up to her Odyssey counterpart and saying they have to be the same. I just haven't written or posted any other analyses / critiques of earlier sagas. Eventually I might do that. I assure you that Calypso is not the only character I look at under a microscope.
Simply put, no, I don't think it's a stretch of any sort or I wouldn't have said it. I did mean it. But I think maybe I didn't make it clear enough why I was saying it.
I'm not using the two lines across the entire musical to insist that she raped Odysseus because I want her to be this irredeemable villain. I can and will concede that, yes, Calypso has no frame of reference for socially acceptable behavior, especially that which pertains to sexual relations. Her songs in Epic really expand on her story in a way that the Odyssey simply does not care to.
I simply think it's important that Odysseus remain representation for men that have been sexually assaulted. He's one of the earliest examples of it, and that is constantly swept under the rug of "he's just a cheating piece of shit" to a lot of people (thank you, Madeline Miller).
That is why I brought it up on my posts. And that's why I think those specific lines were left in the musical.
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cookie-crumblr · 11 months ago
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What would happen if we ignored Ezra and didn't care what he did for a day?
SORRY ITS TAKEN ME LITERALLY SO LONG!!! TYSM FOR THE ASKS!!! ily all 💋✨
He’d get so angry.
So toxic,
ecstatic and sad all at the same time.
!!!MINORS DNI!!!
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CW: GN!Reaader, no body descriptions for reader, not proofread, explicit language, violence, NON CON SA. VIOLENCE AGAINST READER. names used against reader(Cunt, ), assault, loud “noises”, general bullying against reader!
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Status: Not even close to dating
“Fuck off! Just, leave me alone already!!” You stormed off, leaving him somewhat dumbfounded with a lust filled smirk cemented to his face.
He fixes his jaw.
“, finally” He swaggers away in the other direction, for now.
Later~
“Are you still ignoring me, Y/N?”
You pick up your things and go to move seats without a word.
He watches you through twitching lowered brows, gaining annoyance as a ripe little cherry on top of everything else he’s been feeling since you left in a huff this morning.
Ignore him will ya? Welp, he’ll just have to make it harder for you to do so.
He moves seats too.
You move seats again, before, “Y/L/N, You’re disrupting class. Either stay seated this time, or get out.” The professor says.
Fuck.
Well now you’re stuck next to him…
You sit on the side edge of your seat as far away from him as possible, in fact only one freakin butt cheek is even on the dang thing. You’re even facing completely away when, he start rapping his fingers against the desk. His head is in his hand.
“Uhhhhg just stop already!” He moans. He’s so loud, you’d swear his noises are way more disruptive than you moving seats maybe if you just—
“Sit back down, or leave.”
You groan loud and draw it out. HES WAY LOUDER! Why is he NEVER in trouble???
Whatever. only … Fuck… sixty more minutes… Gods why are courses so long!
He huffs loudly next to you and blows some strawberry blonde hair out of his face.
It’s too bad he’s so hot, his looks are wasted on such a nasty dude.
A hand slaps your thigh and grips your inner flesh tightly to where it stings! “Ow!!”
“Shhh!” the professor turns from the screen toward your direction.
“Sorry Sur…” UHG. Whatever.
“Pfft,” He’s laughing. He’s seriously laughing at you!
You know what! Fine. You will leave. And you do.
Ezra follows you to the hallway.
You speed up and try to go hide in the restroom.
Once inside you sigh, but relief is cut short when the door opens.
You clamber into a stall, Fuck fuck FUCK. No! now you’re alone with him! Oh shit. Oh no. Oh gods…
*SLAM! BANG! CRASH!*
You jump. You think he kicked in a stall door, it sounded like it flew off its poor hinges. You cower with your whole body scrunched on top of the toilet.
You realize you’re shaking.
You cover your own mouth to silence yourself but—
*BANG-CRASH!*
You muffle a whimper but you know he heard you.
“Y/N~ I know you’re in here,”
*BANG-CLANG-CRASH*
FUCK!
There’s only one left before yours…
*Flick*
Huh? A lighter…
You smell cigarette smoke, and a tear forms at the corner of your eye. He’s just toying with you as always, he has to be… Right?
“Y/N~” He’s cooing in an almost sing-songy voice. “If you come out now, i’ll give ya a reward…”
You wipe your face, and steel yourself for a second…
Okay… Fine.
It’s probably better than whatever he’d do to you if you keep cowering until he inevitably gets to you, in two more kicks.
You open the door.
“There~ That wasn’t so hard wasit?” His voice is so gentle right now, but it does little to calm you.
You turn your head in defiance.
“You really wanna do this, huh? Ignorin’ me or whatever,” He flicks away his cigarette and you can’t hold in the air that leaves you in actual relief, that’s one less weapon against you.
He closes the distance in a single movement, grasping your face by the cheeks and squeezing them. “Y/N. Look at me.”
You don’t.
“Look. At. Me. Now.”
You remain stead fast.
“You finally got s’m balls, eh.” He smiles and drops your face with a soft uncharacteristic caress to your jaw.
You break and take a quick glance at him.
“ahhh, you want that, huh?” He brings back that sweet voice… “You want me to be all lovey and soft huh?” Your heart thumps in your chest hard. He doesn’t mean it, he’s not gonna change and you know it. “Too Fuckin’ bad” He grabs your face again before throwing it down, he grabs your body next and throws you down onto the dirty bathroom floor.
“Please!!” You cover your face with your arms, but it’s no use hes on top of you, pulling your arms away from you, ripping open your legs and pulling them up on either side of him.
His buckle is loud in your ears as he undoes it, before your hearing cuts out, did he punch you? Your whole head hurts and your vision is fuzzy.
Your skull must’ve bounced off the ceramic tiles.
He punches you again, he’s not using his full strength but it might still knock you out.
“Stupid cunt, you think you can ignore me?” He spits.
“Please, Ezra!!! Sto—op—p” You’re choking out sobs but you can barley hear yourself as if your in another room from your own body.
He spits on his own dick and spreads it around before entering you, at least he’ll give you that.
It still hurts.
He’s rough, not caring that your already damaged skull is continuing to bounce off the floor.
eventually you’re out cold. It’s a small mercy. But a mercy nonetheless.
When you come to you’re still on the floor, naked and afraid as people surround your battered body and snap pics and laugh.
“Aw shit, they’re awake” one says.
“Damn” another adds.
You grab your stuff and bolt, new tears streaming down your puffy face.
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bengiyo · 3 months ago
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For the ask game: Framboise
Yes, I would like to declare my love for him again.
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How I feel about this character
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Every day I am trying to be this man. I love that he believes in the queer space they've created, but is clear about how he thinks people should contribute to and maintain it. I love him.
All the people I ship romantically with this character
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Shipping is a strong word, but I did enjoy the jokes of him falling for Nekoyashiki after he opened up a little bit. It's fun that the thing that sets him off is people showing kindness and regard for him.
My non-romantic OTP for this character
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Comica itself. This man loves his community so much.
My unpopular opinion about this character
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That he's worth talking about at all seems to be the unpopular opinion! All of you, please go watch Nekoyashiki-kun Desires to be Recognized! It's on Viki! We watch a lot of weaker shows! This wasn't one of them!
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon.
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Nekoyashiki needs to go to one of the socials with Framboise! My man deserves it!
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petitprincess1 · 1 year ago
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Hazbin criticism: SA is not a joke. It shouldn't be portrayed in Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss. This is some serious stuff, Vivziepop shouldn't be treating such a traumatic issue so lightly. I had absolutely no warning when I saw Angel Dust get SA! I completely hold Vivizepop responsible for this, she needs to shield us from this triggering shit better.
Me: First of all, if SA shouldn't be portrayed in Hazbin/Helluva at all, shouldn't the same rule apply to all shows/cartoons/movies? Why is Hazbin/Helluva the only one who can't do it? Why do they have to do it a certain way when all other shows have more freedom to portray SA however they want?
Me: Second of all, you had no warning when you witnessed the SA scene in Hazbin Hotel? But those were leaks! You weren't supposed to see those yet and without any context. How exactly do you know what's really going on? It's like you saw the complete season of Hazbin Hotel before there even was one? Better yet, why did you even watch leaks of the show?
Me: And third of all, Hazbin/Helluva always, "ALWAYS" have warnings about the adult issues, adult topics, adult topic, adult humor, adult cursing, etc. Vivziepop didn't exactly trick you into seeing something you really wished you didn't want to see. Especially if you're a minor because you're not really supposed to be here in the first place, how is that Vivziepop's or anybody's fault and why is the finger always pointing at us?
Me: In conclusion, it's like Vivziepop isn't allowed to pretty much do anything whatsoever with her shows. There is no right or wrong answer here. No matter what she does, how she does it, how she chooses to do it, what she sounds like when she does it, how she fixes her hair when she does it, people will always "ALWAYS" think she's doing it wrong and proceed to give a self-centered speech on how they think they can pull a better show or story out of their ass. But hey? What do I know? I'm just a dumb fan, right?
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