#and-and not all of them want hamas annihilated
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velvetaspec · 2 months ago
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Almost like Israel is the land and country of the 🧃 and Zionism is the belief that 🧃 have the same right to protect themselves and retaliate should you ever pose a threat to their existence.
I’m not Jewish so feel free to call me out if I’m overstepping but the antisemitism that a lot of our more “leftist”/anti-israel friends hold is super concerning to us, I don’t really know how to call it out, but sometimes I just feel like if you replaced the words Zionist/Israeli (we really hate the implication that all Israeli’s are “bad people” or in support of the war just because they live in Israel so it really bugs us when they say Israeli to mean that) with Jewish you’d get a 1 for 1 regurgitation of propaganda and stereotypes and it’s really concerning from people who claim to be socially progressive and in support of minorities. It’s like really disturbing to see this happen to people that I thought I knew.
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weemietime · 6 months ago
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i am asking this in good faith
If the Bosnian Genocide is has been ruled a genocide and the death count was 33,071 people, how is what is happening in Gaza not a genocide when the number has been surpassed
Because genocide is not about the number of people being killed. Genocide is a specific legal term, and it has to have two components: 1) obviously people have to be murdered -- but this must be done systemically, as a policy (either written or unwritten) of the belligerent party. AND 2) there has to be genocidal intention to murder said people. Genocidal intention means that Party A (Israel) murders Party B (Palestinians) specifically because those people belong to Party B (Palestinians). There is no evidence that Israel has a genocidal intention. In fact, the October 7th massacre was actually a genocidal act on behalf of Hamas - Hamas committed the genocidal action and has been committing genocidal actions for over 20 years, because they specifically want to murder Jews for being Jewish. They also meet the first criteria because this is a systemic policy that is present in the Hamas Charter.
This is very important to distinguish because whilst genocide is a war crime, not all war crimes are genocide. Israel has committed war crimes, including murdering civilians, and even intentionally allowing civilians to be killed (such as bombing a house with a Hamas member in it and killing his family members). But this is not sufficient to rise to the criteria of genocide. We could make the argument that there is ethnic cleansing, because the vast majority of the people being evacuated are of a single ethnicity, Palestinian. However, again, ethnic cleansing alone is not sufficient to rise to the definition of genocide.
Crucially, the ICJ has not ruled that there is a genocide ongoing. They have ruled prima facie that 1) South Africa has the right to accuse Israel of genocide, and 2) that the ICJ itself is fit to hear and rule on the accusation. They have also ordered Hamas to release the civilian hostages, so if Hamas is saying they want to abide by the ICJ, they have already disregarded the ICJ ruling.
Genocide is not based on vibes. It's not based on bad feelings. It's not based on videos and images of dead kids, or destroyed rubble. Genocide is a specific legal term that can only be applied to the above scenario, and it cheapens our language when we levy it in circumstances where it does not apply. It especially cheapens our language when we engage in Holocaust inversion by claiming Israel is doing to Palestine what Germany did to the Jews, which is categorically false.
Beyond this, it belittles the groups that are involved in this conflict, particularly Hamas, to treat them like they are innocent civilians when they are in fact a very well-outfitted military brigade and the official armed forces of the Gazan government with over 40,000 fighters strong, who repeatedly and loudly say "death to Israel, we want to annihilate Israel, we will commit October 7th again and again until Israel is destroyed." They are being funded by the IRGC, they are being used as a proxy for Iran, and innocent Palestinian civilians are suffering as a result. Hamas has openly said that the "blood of martyrs fuels our resistance," they have openly said they hope Palestinian civilians die in droves while they steal aid and resell it at absurd mark-ups, while they flee to Egypt and Qatar so that they don't have to get their hands dirty. They recruit and brainwash young children to fight their "holy war" to murder as many Jews as possible.
And in terms of the death toll, you have to understand that this war is being fought in an urban environment where the belligerents are embedded purposely in the civilian population, in tunnels all throughout the civilian infrastructure. Violating the Geneva Conventions by using hospitals and schools as military bases, refusing to wear uniforms, and intentionally shooting their own people and blaming Israel.
These people even play tapes pretending to be hostages shouting in Hebrew "don't shoot," which is one of the reasons why a hostage was accidentally killed by the IDF, which is then turned around to show how evil the IDF is without understanding the context that these events happen in. In normal urban warfare the ratio of civilian to combatant death is around 9:1. In Gaza, the ratio is, according to Hamas's own numbers, 4:1. Literally twice as low as the average. So, yeah. War crimes are happening. Yes. Absolutely. Genocide is not happening, at least, it's not happening to the Palestinians.
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unsolicited-opinions · 4 months ago
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Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib writes on Twitter about Secretary Blinken's NYT interview:
The "pro-Palestine" movement's role in prolonging the war on Gaza: Though many are angry with Secretary Blinken’s responses during his interview with the New York Times about Gaza, some of the points he shared are absolutely salient and accurate. I have said this time and again and received immense backlash for doing so: Hamas’s war strategy, statements, behavior, and goals regularly shift and oscillate based on international public opinion, the actions of the “pro-Palestine” solidarity movement, and political statements by world governments, leaders, and institutions against Israel’s war. To be clear, I’m not in any capacity saying I endorse the horrendous war that Israel’s been waging on Gaza, killing a large number of civilians (including my family) and failing to achieve strategic and lasting results 15 months later. However, Hamas refused to engage in pragmatic negotiations to end the war it started, pulled back several times from closing a ceasefire/hostage deal, and thought that mass civilian casualties would delegitimize Israel and force it to end the war. Many are uncomfortable with Secretary Blinken’s remarks because he shed light on the reality that “pro-Palestine” rhetoric and pressure on Israel has inevitably or perhaps indirectly resulted in a strengthening of Hamas’s position and the overall worsening of the situation for Palestinians in Gaza. I have said time and again that even if folks wanted to attack and criticize Israeli actions, they should call upon the Islamist group to release hostages and negotiate and off-ramp from the war to implement political transformation. Instead, the “pro-Palestine” and international solidarity movements completely ignored Hamas’s criminality against Palestinians and Israelis alike while failing to promote pragmatic, realistic pathways forward to save the most Palestinian lives and make it clear that Hamas’s actions are unpopular, unsupported, and condemned. Secretary Blinken is right on the money with his remarks. The “pro-Palestine” movements across the world after October 7 bear a significant responsibility for prolonging this war and directly contributing to the massive suffering of Palestinians in the coastal enclave. This dereliction of duty delegitimizes almost the entirety of the premise upon which current “pro-Palestine” activism is built. Take a step back and never, ever speak for, over, or on behalf of the Palestinian people!
Haviv Rettig Gur says he agrees:
I agree with Ahmed. We might assess the war differently, but we assess the future the same. When the dust settles, when the rebuilding begins, the old truths everyone likes to ignore will reassert themselves. We'll be back at square one, with the same problem as before. Israel can't rule the Palestinians for all time, nor can the war ever end as long as Palestinian ideological factions like Hamas consistently undermine every attempt at peace-making. Anyone who doesn't understand how catastrophic Hamas has been to the Palestinian cause is of no use to the Palestinian cause. 90% of Israeli Jews now tell pollsters that the fundamental impulse of the Palestinian national movement is to annihilate them. Imagine for a moment that I personally would like to see Palestinian independence in my lifetime. What am I supposed to do with the reality that that statistic describes? How do I urge my fellow Israelis to once again ante up in a game that they have learned from repeated bitter failure - and from Hamas's own consistent rhetoric - is meant to bring about their destruction? And Hamas did that. It was Hamas (with some help from Arafat) that convinced even most progressive Israelis, through explicit word and endless bloody deeds, that withdrawal or compromise would only bring more bloodshed. As long as Israeli Jews believe that, believe what Hamas tells them, they will remain immune to the moral emotions of foreigners. This is the profound folly at the heart of the pro-Palestinian movement. It wants to pressure Israelis to withdraw while Hamas tells Israelis that it will come for their kids from any inch of land they abandon. The pro-Palestinian movement has not yet noticed that it and Hamas are sending Israelis opposite messages, making opposite demands, and so canceling each other out in the Israeli psyche. And it is Palestinians, always Palestinians, who are the first and greatest victims of this folly. Even their defenders are mostly just corralling them into that same old trap. If you can't separate the Palestinian cause from Hamas's cause, or, indeed, if you share Hamas's yearning to see us destroyed, then you're no defender of Palestine. You are one of its destroyers.
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fuck-hamas-go-israel · 1 year ago
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Hamas is a heinous, murderous, vile terrorist group that’s intent on killing Jews.
But you can’t say they haven’t been honest about their intentions. Their manifesto, the interviews they’ve given, and the way they try to brainwash children through schools and media content have all been quite blatant in showing their modus operandi.
However, despite their very brutal honesty, why do Hamas-sympathisers try so hard to make Hamas look like good guys by defending literal crimes in the most insane ways?
It’s worrying and also shocking as these hypocrisies are such common sentiments coming from college campuses, which were once institutions that honed critical thinking.
Do they think that “kill all Jews” is a code phrase for “we want our territory back”? How do you possibly interpret open calls for the annihilation of Jews in any other way than what it is?
Do they not think that kidnapping women, raping and torturing them, and parading their naked, mutilated bodies around town to sexually humiliate them while men cheer is sexual violence against women? Isn’t this a feminist issue, part of the MeToo movement?
“Think about the children!” Yes, but when babies are beheaded and burned, when 4 year olds are kidnapped and orphaned, is claiming that these are AI-generated images and ripping down the posters of the hostages thinking of the children?
They cry out about war crimes but ignore that raping women and taking hostages are literally war crimes.
They scream to boycott companies for their ties to Israel using devices with technology designed in Israel. Will they give up their life’s pleasures because of their ties to Israel? My money is on no, because it’ll affect them personally and heaven forbid they take up activism that actually would inconvenience them in the slightest.
They claim to be experts in geopolitics after watching one TikTok video and claim that this is about territory and not antisemitism while also saying that Israelis can just “go back to whichever other country they also have citizenship in”. While turning a blind eye to the multiple antisemitic attacks around the world, and calling Israelis “white colonisers”.
They also claim to be champions of mental health awareness, experts in the psychological mechanisms of mental illnesses and take cautions to avoid triggers and micro-aggressions so as to not offend those who have psychological conditions. “We should let those who actually have these conditions speak up about their experiences!!”
But then when it comes to actual psychologically stressing situations like being kidnapped and taken hostage, they suddenly can speak for the hostages and know exactly what went on based on the most vacuous, flimsy evidence? “Oh she’s in love with her captor, she’s smiling at him! They’re smiling and waving, they must have been treated nicely by Hamas!”
How do they sleep at night with these competing ideologies in their heads? What do they achieve by making all these seem like the actions of good people?
They’re like Hamas’ PR team and defence attorneys rolled into one.
No matter what crime Hamas commits, they’ll come up with justifications and make it look like some kind of beneficent act of humanitarianism.
It’s so exhausting trying to reason with people who don’t see reason.
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kleptozoology · 2 months ago
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I stand with the Jews
I am not going to be silent in the face of hate. I will not be quiet when terrorism is cheered and celebrated. I changed like I hope you all one day change. I used to blindly hate them like the rest of you, but making one Jewish friend and talking to them about their religion and culture made me see the beautiful tapestry of their history. I also learned of the tears in the fabric where the world tried to cut their thread short. But they survived every single extermination campaign against them, and they will survive this one too. Their children will walk on the bones of your dead empires. They always have, they always will. You will never succeed in killing them all or driving them into hiding. And one day this failed attempt at their annihilation will be a holiday where they toast your failure. They did it with the Romans and the Greeks and the Egyptians and everyone else. This isn't about Palestine and it never has been. I see through you. You may have fooled yourselves but you don't fool me. I stand against you by their side. So drown this post in the water filter. Screenshot it. Share it. I am not fucking afraid of you. You have found my everything blog, so dig through it and root through my kinks and everything I've shared. Display it as proof that my words are not true. It will not make me back down. I am their ally and I will not turn a blind eye in the face of hate. I wish you were still capable of feeling shame, that you were still capable of looking in the mirror and seeing what you have become, but I have seen that you sacrificed that on the alter of blind hatred. The Palestinian people are suffering because YOU support the terrorists oppressing them. If Hamas returned all the innocent civilians they kidnapped, the war would end today. Instead you cheer as they torture and rape and murder, not just Jews, but their own people. Anyone who doesn't support Hamas will be killed by Hamas. I'm done with this post. Have fun screenshotting it. I will take your water filter as a badge of honor. Oh, and for my longer posts you can replace the "u" in the tumblr url with a "p" and it will screenshot the whole post including replies and tags. Just want to make it easier for you to assassinate my character. Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer. Rot. All of you.
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the-garbanzo-annex-jr · 22 days ago
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by Guy Milleire
[A]ll Hamas needs to do to prevent this destruction is return all the hostages it should not have kidnapped in the first place. Amnesty International has served up a remarkable inversion of facts.
"What's shocking is that people in the Cease-Fire Now crowd don't appear to have much interest in making any demands of Hamas equivalent to those they make of Israel. They want Israel to stop firing. But do you often hear them insisting that Hamas return the favor? They want Israel to provide Gaza with humanitarian relief in the form of electricity, fuel and other goods. But I haven't seen those protesters in the street demanding that Hamas provide Israel with humanitarian relief in the form of immediately freeing all hostages.... For Israelis, what 'Cease-Fire Now' means is 'Surrender Now.' No wonder they decline to heed the call.... Whatever else one thinks of Israel, no country can be expected to sign its own death warrant by indulging those who, if given the chance, would annihilate it." — Bret Stephens, New York Times, November 21, 2023.
Clearly a massive dark-money problem obscenely exists within far too many universities and cities both in the US and Europe.
It is also important to highlight the unabashedly toxic role of the United Nations.... [T]he United Nations quickly became the world's leading organization for, among other unsavory practices, propagating hatred of Israel and a general hatred of Jews.
The Palestinian Authority to this day pays its citizens to murder Jews -- the more Jews, the larger the payments.
In Europe, organizations that fight anti-Semitism.... Often left-wing, they primarily denounce far-right anti-Semitism, but never far-left anti-Semitism, and never ever Islamic anti-Semitism -- currently the only form of anti-Semitism in Europe that attacks and kills Jews. Most Jewish organizations in Europe support Israel, but more often than not advocate for dialogue between Israel and the Palestinians and still support the mirage of a "two-state solution."
The vast majority of Israelis seem finally to have understood that the goal of Palestinian organizations is not to create a state living in peace alongside Israel, but to destroy Israel.
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"Oh Allah, bring annihilation upon the Jews. Paralyze them, destroy their entity. Oh Allah, enable us to get to the necks of the Jews. Oh Allah, enable us to get to the necks of the Jews!" -- Hamad Al-Rageb, Hamas Official Sheikh
"The day of your slaughter, extermination, and annihilation is near!" -- Fathi Hamad, Former Interior Minister of Gaza
"... until not a single Jew or Zionist is left on the face of the Earth!" -- Unnamed Hamas Imam speaking at Hamas Friday sermon (khutbah)
"Our doctrine in fighting you (the Jews) is that we will totally exterminate you. We will not leave a single one of you alive. -- Unnamed Hamas Imam speaking at Hamas Friday sermon
"(The Quran says) 'Kill them wherever you may find them'. We will fight them wherever we can." -- Mahmoud Al-Zahar, Hamas co-founder
"The moment will come when their property will be destroyed, and their sons annihilated." -- Unnamed Hamas Imam speaking at Hamas Friday sermon
"Oh Allah, destroy the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, destroy the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, count them one by one, kill them all, without leaving a single one." -- Unnamed Hamas Imam speaking at Hamas Friday sermon
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#ReligionOfPeace
The war has nothing to do with politics or statehood or ridiculous western academic gibberish like "colonialism." It's about an insane, primitive, bloodthirsty, murderous cult wanting to wipe out people they don't like, because their book of fantasies says so, and the targets of those murderous, blood-lusting savages daring to fight back.
That's it. That's what it's about. They tell you what it's about. They wrote an entire Covenant saying exactly that. It's not complicated. It's not profound or deep, nor does it require tens of thousands of dollars of fake classes conducted by frauds and liars to understand.
Islam says to murder all the Jews. So, Hamas wants to murder all the Jews. Israel says, um, no. That's it.
The fact that Israel is out there on their own against these vile demons, and not just holding their own but winning, is one of the most impressive things ever.
There's less than 16m Jews in the world, the population of Israel is less than 10m. There's about 1.9b Muslims in the world, and the populations of Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and Syria are about 5.3m, 11m, 112m and 23m respectively. And each of these neighboring countries has pretty much got their own Islamic terrorist organization plotting to eradicate Israel and everyone who lives there.
You know, an actual genocide.
You want to talk about "marginalized people"? How about being completely surrounded by governments and terror organizations who've made it their entire mission to exterminate not just you, but all your family everywhere in the world?
If Israel, a country of just 10m people, can stand up to and oppose these monsters, what the hell is wrong with the rest of the west wringing their hands about not wanting to offend the animals who want to move onto the rest of us once they've finished the job?
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horreurscopes · 1 year ago
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So, I could be out-of-bounds here since I think you meant it as dark humor, but what did you mean in the tags of that 'israel-hamas war' post? I suspect you(and op) are criticizing that framing because Israel is obviously demolishing much more than 'Hamas'(and probably doing a terrible job of actually targeting terrorists- they seem content to reduce Gaza to rubble even if the brass of Hamas escapes). I'm guessing that by saying "joining the Israel-Hamas war on the side of Hamas" you mean, if they're going to conflate Palestinians with Hamas unilaterally, then you're saying, whatever the media wants to call Palestinian civilians- you still support them. I am asking anyways though bc, given reports of increasing antisemitic activity in the US and Europe, I am worried about the potential for blurring lines between the cause of Palestinian civilians and the alt-right individuals who are likely masking their antisemitism in the context of being anti-Zionist. Although Israel's government has been the source of Palestinian loss for decades, (it seems to me that) even joking about supporting terrorism is enough to reinforce the persuasion that Israeli/Palestinian Jews and Palestinian Arabs must be mutually-exclusive peoples. I don't think it's fully rational per se(tho I'm not claiming to have all the relevant information myself, and I'm white US American goyim so like- grain of salt-), but I think that existential fear is the incredible hurdle facing Zionist Jews. (Idc too much about the opinions of non-Jewish Zionists bc I don't grant that they are dealing with the same emotional complications at this time, although that doesn't stop me from arguing w my acquaintances abt their callous acceptance of US/Israeli propaganda.) I just think..... isn't it overall harmful to allow anti-semitic rhetoric, even used sarcastically, to enter the genuine humanist cause for Palestinian liberation? Or, have I misunderstood, and you actually are not in opposition to Hamas, or something else I didn't think of?
hi! thank you for approaching the question thoughtfully and with curiosity, i really appreciate it. i was being kind of flippant with that meme, but this is the only ask i'm going to reply to on the matter given that i am neither jewish nor arab, so i'm going to answer in earnest:
hamas is a political resistance movement with an armed wing, much like the black panthers party was, and like the bpp, a large part of the organization is dedicated to social welfare and civic restoration.
they have stated that they are not against judaism, but against the zionist project. they openly support political solutions.
labeling hamas a terrorist group is a propaganda tactic used by the united states and israel to justify the horrors of settler colonization.
hamas is palestine, a part of it, even if palestinians like any other demographic on earth, are not a unified, single-minded people. to declare hamas a separate entity falls prey to the imperialist lie that there is an enemy to fight "fairly" within the people they are displacing and exterminating.
am i rejoicing in the deaths of israelis? of course not. killing civilians and taking civilian hostages is a war crime, whether it is committed by the opresor or the oppressed. the israeli government is not its people, and many jews, within israel as well as in the US, are bravely risking their lives to publicly dissent the criminal acts of the israeli government. all loss of human life is a tragedy.
no one should ever be faced with the choice between annihilation and murderous violence after exhausting all other forms of peaceful protest and being massacred like animals.
but why is it that we consider a resistance group formed within a population with a median age of eighteen a terrorist group, and not the IDF, a US-backed military force with an annual budget of twenty billion dollars?
i am currently reading hamas and civil society in gaza by sara roy to learn more about hamas and the history of israel in palestine. i'll remember to post more excerpts which i am admittedly terrible at.
but all of the information above can be found by reading wikipedia. investigating with duckduckgo searches (not gonna pretend google isn't prioritizing propaganda, to be fair), and reading reliable news coverage like aljazeera and the many journalists who are at risk of, or have lost their lives, reporting on the ground.
i have also appreciated reading posts from @determinate-negation @opencommunion @fairuzfan @ibtisams and @bloglikeanegyptian amongst others
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fairuzfan · 1 year ago
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have you seen the proposed ceasefire netanyahu rejected?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68232883 (screenshot the relevant bits so everyone can see)
i can’t believe they’ve rejected this and decided to move forward with genocidal acts and now bombings in the “designated safe area” aka rafah. it’s ridiculous that netanyahu’s excuse is that “if we don’t wipe out hamas, another massacre will happen if we ceasefire”. they haven’t even made a dent in the qassam brigade. all they’ve done is kill 12K children. i have no more words left.
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they're all pieces of shit that want to see the complete annihilation of the palestinian people. i wish i could spit on them on live tv.
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girlactionfigure · 11 months ago
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Hard evidence that the “From the river to the sea” folks are not pro-Palestinian. They’re not even anti Israel. They are anti Jewish.  - Their marches and chants began on 10/7 before Israel even fired up a single fighter jet.  - They harass Jews wherever they are, including on the Internet. It doesn’t matter if that Jew has even stepped foot in Israel or not.  - Hitler is often quoted in their marches and Nazi flags are displayed.  - Their actual chants kinda give it away. From the river to the sea? Open a map. That means the total erasure of Israel and the annihilation of every Jew there. But they say clearly that it won’t stop with Israel. They want every Jew dead. What do you think “Globalize the intifada” means? - So many of them don’t support the funding of the Iron Dome. The Iron Dome, as you know, has one purpose, to minimize the deaths of innocent Jews. Not funding it means more dead Jews.  - They regularly attack and vandalize Jewish institutions whether or not that institution is a Zionist one. Random synagogues, restaurants, businesses, etc. All they have in common is that they’re owned by Jews.  But the most fundamental proof of all is… - They don’t believe Israel has a right to exist. With close to 50 countries with a Muslim majority and 157 countries with a Christian majority, one Jewish country is too much for them to handle. By not supporting the state of Israel, they are directly calling for more dead Jews. And that’s just a hard fact.  So… Skip the act, the charade is over. There is no “Anti Zionism”. You spelled Antisemitism wrong.  If you don’t stand with Israel in this ideological existential war, then you stand with Hamas, an organization that openly and proudly calls for the death of all Jews wherever they are in the world.  You stand with an organization that not only supports resistance by any means including rape and beheading of men, women, and babies, they actually acted on it.  If you don’t stand with Israel, then you stand with Hamas. That makes you a terror supporter and an antisemite.  Glad we cleared that up.
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strangeracrossthestreet · 2 years ago
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You know, it's very curious how every time Hamas' freedom fighters do something, Israel just bombs Gaza Strip as a response, targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure.
Isn't that curious?
I think it's very curious.
It's almost like they are using Hamas as an excuse, or something.
Israel does not even try to disguise how much they don't care about Palestinians. Israel does not try to hide how it thinks that Palestinians do not deserve human rights and self-determination.
Where was Hamas during the Great March of Return where people were shot by the thousands, losing limbs, being killed for having the nerve to protest, the nerve to want to be free and go back home. (wanting to go back home...now isn't that ironic? In their oh-so-righteous quest for a home, Israel destroys the homes and lives of the Palestinian people.)
Where was Hamas when you detain children and beat them and humiliate them?
Where was Hamas when journalists and medics are killed?
Where is Hamas in the West Bank where illegal settlements and settlers constantly threaten the lives of Palestinians? Constant harassment, constant threats, constant destruction of property.
Where is Hamas in Jerusalem where homes are being demolished? Where people do not have the same rights as those who come from the other side of the world to take their homes as their own.
Hamas is the Boogeyman in your minds, so you can feel at ease terrorising, killing, assaulting, displacing, ethnically cleansing hundreds of thousands of people.
The word "terrorists" is an excuse to let it all happen.
The word "Hamas" is an excuse to let it all happen.
You are disgraceful.
A vile regime that cries wolf again, and again, and again.
And the world lets them.
Disgraceful. Shameful. Disgusting.
All the atrocities, allowed in the name of profit.
The very notion that Hamas is doing any of this out of their own free will is disingenuous, fueled by racism, and it ignores the 70+ years of continuous violence brought upon the Palestinian people by the illegal occupying force of Israel. It ignores what the Gaza Strip is, it ignores the mental terror Palestinians live through and are born into.
The collective trauma of the Holocaust, the collective trauma of an apartheid state itself, is being used to go through with Genocide of an entire peoples.
I hear people talking about this being a cycle. It is not.
Early on, I too thought it was a cycle, as violence begets violence, but it is not.
Palestinians are resisting their very annihilation.
I will not ask of them to be merciful, even though they are.
I will not ask of them to be gentle, even though they are.
I will not ask them to die slowly and quietly for my peace of mind as Israel chokes them of their lives, chokes them of their lands year after painful year.
I will not condemn their struggle.
Israel was not merciful to them. Israel was not gentle to them.
Israel is a state that exists on the backs of countless Palestinian deaths. That, I condemn.
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fuck-hamas-go-israel · 2 years ago
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Oh noooo imagine my shock!
Aside from the sheer cognitive dissonance of the entire concept of Queers for Palestine, I wonder if they think that siding with Hamas makes them somehow exempt from the cruelty and homophobia they’ll experience if they were actually under Hamas’ rule.
Hearing the Queers for Palestine folks chant for the eradication of Israel makes me wonder if they know that they’re calling for the annihilation of the only LGBTQ+ friendly country in that region, and that thousands of members of that community live thriving and proud lives in Israel with no fear of persecution.
Meanwhile, being LGBTQ+ in Palestine and the surrounding countries is not only dangerous because of some rogue, homophobic mobs. It’s illegal. Punishable by law.
It also baffles me to see the LGBTQ+ community side with any group that would also call for their destruction, and have been executing LGBTQ+ people in horrific ways.
So as a message to Queers for Palestine, I assure you that you won’t be the exception to the rule just because you chant and hold up signs at a rally. They’ll want you dead all the same.
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eretzyisrael · 1 year ago
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by Bassam Tawil
[T]he Iran-backed Hamas terror group is again trying to dupe gullible Westerners, including the Biden administration and the European Union, into believing that it has accepted the "two-state solution."
The Hamas official would not have dared to utter similar nonsense to an Arab media outlet. He knows that here his lies are directed at English-speaking audiences, who tend to swallow whole the baloney spouted by Israel's enemies.
The Hamas official wants everyone to believe that his group is ready to stop killing Jews for a period of five years "or more" if it gets the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem. He just forgot to mention that there was an official truce between Israel and Hamas until October 7, when the terror group Hamas initiated the current war.
The Hamas official also forgot to mention that Hamas has repeatedly violated several truces and ceasefire agreements reached with Israel over the past 17 years. The truces and ceasefires were always used by Hamas to regroup and rearm in preparation for the next round of attacking Israel.
Hamas will never abandon its weapons or dismantle its armed group, especially after the establishment of a Palestinian state
The mere talk about a Palestinian state these days is regarded as a reward for Hamas's genocidal assault on Israel. It sends the message to Hamas that after you murdered so many Jews, the international community will reward you by giving you a state. It reaffirms that terrorism works. Where do we sign up?
The secret that the AP and the US administration do not want you to know is that Hamas does not actually want the Gaza Strip or the West Bank or east Jerusalem. Hamas wants to eliminate Israel and replace it with an Iran-backed Islamist terror state.
If Hamas and the Palestinian Authority are given a state next to Israel, they will absolutely continue to pursue their goal of killing Jews and obliterating Israel. Hamas official Ghazi Hamad has clearly said that the terror group will repeat the October 7 attack, time and again, until Israel is annihilated.
Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal has repeatedly clarified that his group's acceptance of a Palestinian state does not mean that it will abandon its goal of destroying Israel.
"The lines below are for the next person who comes to me with 'Hamas agreed to two state solution.' It DID NOT! Hamas outlines this scenario fully in its Charter as amended in 2017.... Hamas will likely then stock as much rockets and drones possible for the next round of war to destroy Israel.... Prophet Muhammad is said to have entered into a 10-year truce with the infidels. He conquered them a few years into the truce. Hamas imagines a similar scenario with Israel." — Hussain Abdul-Hussain, X, April 25, 2024.
Hamas is well aware of the credulity of the international community. It knows that it can engage in all forms of propaganda and win friends in the West. It also knows that the best vehicle to advance its goal of killing Jews and destroying Israel is a "two-state solution."
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the-garbanzo-annex-jr · 1 year ago
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Screams Before Silence: Bearing Witness to the Violence of October 7th is a must-watch documentary produced by Eytan Schwartz, Carol and Joey Low, and Meny Aviram, CEO of Kastina Communications. Sheryl Sandberg is the interviewer. The personal testimonies of victims, survivors and witnesses are clear and overpowering, as is the photographic evidence. The interview with Eytan is below.
It has first-hand accounts of those who survived and bore witness to the horrors of October 7th. For those who can no longer speak out, this documentary represents the voices of those who horrifically died. The attacks on Israeli towns and the Nova Music Festival included the rape of women and children, some of whom were also mutilated. It includes the burning of babies in ovens, the killings of men, women, and children, and even those held hostage revealed the sexual assault by their Hamas captives.
Even though there is indisputable evidence, these atrocities have basically been ignored by human rights groups, international organizations, and many figures in politics, academia, and the media. Yet, the hypocrisy and double standards are all too evident. It is mindboggling that there are feminists and those in the LGBTQ community calling for the annihilation of the Jews and protesting in support of Hamas.
Eytan noted, “In the first few weeks of the war, I volunteered to take hundreds of foreign journalists to the south to see the atrocities. Very early on it was clear that the issue of the sexual crimes committed by Hamas was met with skepticism and denial. I spoke with my friend and co-producer Meny Aviram and said that we absolutely had to produce a documentary about the topic, as it was clear that the denial would only get worse. Unfortunately, we were right. With the documentary out, and open for everyone to see on YouTube, we at least have a reference to show the world.”
Anti-Semitic protestors ignore the fact that under Islam, women have very little rights and are punished for not wearing the Hijab, not allowed to leave home, and cannot hold a job without the permission of a senior male family member. Those in the LGBTQ community are hanged on a regular basis in Muslim regions. Anyone living in Gaza or the West Bank and wants to criticize had better do it in Israel because being critical in Gaza will likely end with their throat slit, and in the West Bank they will be tortured or imprisoned.
Listening to those who condemn “both sides” are just emboldening the terrorists. He says, “It is shocking and saddening that there are people that forgot why this war began. On October 7th, thousands of Hamas terrorists attacked dozens of cities and communities, army bases and three parties in an unprecedented rampage of violence. They killed 1200 people, mutilated, injured, raped, and assaulted thousands, and kidnapped back to Gaza more than 250 babies, children, moms, pops, grandparents, people with disabilities and Holocaust survivors. Currently …there are still 132 hostages in Gaza. There is nothing more important than returning them back home now. An interviewee said in the documentary, ‘This should not be forgotten and what happened to them should be told.’ That is our motivation and that is why we created the film. There is nothing more important than making sure the world knows this story.”
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the purpose of me asking that was to check if you had any about the knowledge of creation of israel..
before the creation of israel it was palestine with people of all religion coexisting like how you said but after the establishment of israel it has become more and more evident that its purpose of creation is nothing more than eradicating all beings of the land where they settled(palestine)
killing indigenous people and their culture systematically and claiming it is done on the basis of religion is insulting to jewish faith
and palestinians do not ask for israeli people to leave their land. all they ask is to stop occupying and forcefully push them out of their lands in the name of abolishing terrorism again and again for almost a century
Yes, it is true that the land of which Israel is founded on was called Palestine when under the British mandate. That name originates from the historic people of Philistines, and the Romans named it that to mock the Jewish people who lived on this land.
Arabs are not indigenous to Palestine. Originating from Syria and Saudi Arabia, they began colonizing Israel in around 17th century. They started taking control of Galilee in northern Israel and according to historians, they attacked the villages around the area to take control.
Modern Palestinians? I would love to believe what you said is true. I would love to think most Palestinians want to live in peace. As for me, I want peace more than nothing else.
However that is sadly not the case. Hamas' declared purpose is to annihilate all of the Jewish people. They've said it multiple times.
Sure, Hamas doesn't represent the Palestinians. But they are scared of Hamas. There's nothing they can do but continue being human shields for the terror organization whose leaders don't even live in Palestine.
I live on the border with a village under the Palestinian government. You know what happened when it was announced Israelis were killed on the October 7th attack? There were celebrations from over the border. They sent fireworks and celebrated our people's deaths.
We have a bomb & terror shelter between every few houses. We have shelters in schools and workplaces. If what they wanted was peace it would simply not be this way.
I don't want to "colonize" the Palestinians. I and many other Israelis would want a two state solution if that's what they need to have peace.
But it is simply not possible.
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This video is for everyone who supports Palestine. If you don't support Palestine, you can scroll.
What's Palestine? I am dead ass requesting you to tell me what's Palestine. Do you know who you're chanting for, and what you're chanting?
When you say "free Palestine" you are not talking about Gaza. Do you know that? Gaza is not Palestine.
"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free." It is calling to end the existence of Israel. From the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, which includes the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, and the entire state of Israel. The only Jewish state in the entire world.
7 million Jews and 2 million Arabs live here in peace. With your "free Palestine" idea, where do you want us to go? Where do you want us all to go? What do you think is gonna happen the day Israel stops existing? Do you not think that if Hamas takes over, if the damage they are already doing, having full control, full complete control over the tiny area that is Gaza, what do you think is gonna happen the day they have full complete control over the state of Israel?
What do you think is gonna happen to you? Chanting "free Palestine" in the streets right now. If you want freedom for the people of Gaza who, by the way, you guys are categorizing together as Palestinians, you have no idea who lives there. If you want freedom for these people, you stand with Israel to end whoever is actually occupying them.
Israel has never attacked Gaza unprovoked. Israel has never, ever, ever targeted the Gazan civilians during any war or any attack that we have inflicted upon Hamas and their terror targets, the places they hide their rockets and guns and ammunition, which are civilian homes, hospitals, schools.
The people of Gaza can't speak themselves against Hamas cause they know they'll be killed. You, from the comfort of your home in your Western country think that you can speak for the people of Gaza about who is inflicting terror on them.
500,000 Gazans cross to Israel every single day to work. Let me make something very, very clear. Since Israel left Gaza in 2005, Israel does not owe shit to Gaza. "The electricity, the water..." Why isn't Hamas providing those things to Gaza? Where is all the billions of dollars they are being sent constantly? We don't have to let Gazans come and work here. We don't have to give them food, electricity and water. We don't have to warn them to go out of their houses when we attack Hamas targets. We don't have to do anything. And somehow we are held to the standard that we do?
Hamas kills their political opponents. They have not held elections since they've been elected in 2006. Even after they have GoPro'ed a massacre of 1,300 people, not people killed by rockets - massacre by hand - you still don't know who they are. You still don't realize they do the same thing to the people of Gaza. You still support these people.
If you want Gaza to be free, you support Israel annihilating Hamas and freeing them of the people of Gaza. Once Gaza is free of Hamas, there will be peace.
Don't you think that if Israel was truly controlling Gaza and occupying Gaza, this wouldn't have happened. We would know what was going on there.
Wake up already. These terrorists are using your values against you. They are hiding in their terror tunnels right now alongside 199 hostages. These are not freedom fighters, these are bloodthirsty monsters.
Stop chanting these empty, empty slogans and wake up to see what is right in front of you.
"The siege, they have a fence around Gaza..." Have you seen what happens when they make one hole in the fence? Have you seen what happens in less than five hours to 1,300 people when they break through this fence?
This will never fail to amaze me. "Gaza's under siege! The fence around Gaza!" Do you mean the border? Somewhere that is not our territory? Same border that 500,000 Palestinians cross to make money here in Israel? The same border they can easily cross if they don't affiliate with Hamas or carry any weapon? The same border they have with their Egyptian brothers who do not allow them anywhere near their country?
And if after everything I said, you still support Hamas, there is no other way to say it: your values align with Hamas. And I'm being very, very gentle.
If you truly want peace, you stand with Israel.
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Hamas is Gaza's Taliban. Hamas is Gaza's ISIS. Hamas is Gaza's Boko Haram. Hamas is Gaza's Iranian Regime.
Oct 7 was Israel's Mahsa Amini moment. Israel is doing this not just for the Israelis, but for the Gazans, who live in a terrorist regime.
If you rooted for the collapse of the Iranian Regime with #WomanLifeFreedom, then you root for the extermination of Hamas. Because they are the same exact problem.
How have people gotten so confused after only one year?
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