#“pro-Palestine” movement

[unsolicited-opinions]

Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib writes on Twitter about Secretary Blinken's NYT interview:

The "pro-Palestine" movement's role in prolonging the war on Gaza: Though many are angry with Secretary Blinken’s responses during his interview with the New York Times about Gaza, some of the points he shared are absolutely salient and accurate. I have said this time and again and received immense backlash for doing so: Hamas’s war strategy, statements, behavior, and goals regularly shift and oscillate based on international public opinion, the actions of the “pro-Palestine” solidarity movement, and political statements by world governments, leaders, and institutions against Israel’s war. To be clear, I’m not in any capacity saying I endorse the horrendous war that Israel’s been waging on Gaza, killing a large number of civilians (including my family) and failing to achieve strategic and lasting results 15 months later. However, Hamas refused to engage in pragmatic negotiations to end the war it started, pulled back several times from closing a ceasefire/hostage deal, and thought that mass civilian casualties would delegitimize Israel and force it to end the war. Many are uncomfortable with Secretary Blinken’s remarks because he shed light on the reality that “pro-Palestine” rhetoric and pressure on Israel has inevitably or perhaps indirectly resulted in a strengthening of Hamas’s position and the overall worsening of the situation for Palestinians in Gaza. I have said time and again that even if folks wanted to attack and criticize Israeli actions, they should call upon the Islamist group to release hostages and negotiate and off-ramp from the war to implement political transformation. Instead, the “pro-Palestine” and international solidarity movements completely ignored Hamas’s criminality against Palestinians and Israelis alike while failing to promote pragmatic, realistic pathways forward to save the most Palestinian lives and make it clear that Hamas’s actions are unpopular, unsupported, and condemned. Secretary Blinken is right on the money with his remarks. The “pro-Palestine” movements across the world after October 7 bear a significant responsibility for prolonging this war and directly contributing to the massive suffering of Palestinians in the coastal enclave. This dereliction of duty delegitimizes almost the entirety of the premise upon which current “pro-Palestine” activism is built. Take a step back and never, ever speak for, over, or on behalf of the Palestinian people!

Haviv Rettig Gur says he agrees:

I agree with Ahmed. We might assess the war differently, but we assess the future the same. When the dust settles, when the rebuilding begins, the old truths everyone likes to ignore will reassert themselves. We'll be back at square one, with the same problem as before. Israel can't rule the Palestinians for all time, nor can the war ever end as long as Palestinian ideological factions like Hamas consistently undermine every attempt at peace-making. Anyone who doesn't understand how catastrophic Hamas has been to the Palestinian cause is of no use to the Palestinian cause. 90% of Israeli Jews now tell pollsters that the fundamental impulse of the Palestinian national movement is to annihilate them. Imagine for a moment that I personally would like to see Palestinian independence in my lifetime. What am I supposed to do with the reality that that statistic describes? How do I urge my fellow Israelis to once again ante up in a game that they have learned from repeated bitter failure - and from Hamas's own consistent rhetoric - is meant to bring about their destruction? And Hamas did that. It was Hamas (with some help from Arafat) that convinced even most progressive Israelis, through explicit word and endless bloody deeds, that withdrawal or compromise would only bring more bloodshed. As long as Israeli Jews believe that, believe what Hamas tells them, they will remain immune to the moral emotions of foreigners. This is the profound folly at the heart of the pro-Palestinian movement. It wants to pressure Israelis to withdraw while Hamas tells Israelis that it will come for their kids from any inch of land they abandon. The pro-Palestinian movement has not yet noticed that it and Hamas are sending Israelis opposite messages, making opposite demands, and so canceling each other out in the Israeli psyche. And it is Palestinians, always Palestinians, who are the first and greatest victims of this folly. Even their defenders are mostly just corralling them into that same old trap. If you can't separate the Palestinian cause from Hamas's cause, or, indeed, if you share Hamas's yearning to see us destroyed, then you're no defender of Palestine. You are one of its destroyers.

[perfectlyvalid49]

I’ve been seeing a lot of “One Year of Genocide” posters for October 7th from a lot of pro-Palestinian organizations, and I feel like they’re accidentally saying the quiet part out loud.

Because I’ve seen arguments that Israel has been committing a genocide against Palestinians for years/decades/since its founding/since prior to its founding, but all of that would be longer than one year. So that can’t be what it’s referencing.

And I’ve seen lots and lots of arguments that the current war in Gaza is a genocide, but Israel wasn’t at war with Gaza on October 7th. War was declared on the 8th, and Israel did not start attacking Gaza until a day or two later. So the specific date of October 7th wouldn’t be marking a year of the war, so that can’t be what it’s referencing either.

So what is the date of October 7th referencing when they say “One Year of Genocide”? It’s referencing the start of a year of attacks against Israel. A year of attempted genocide against the people of Israel.

These posters aren’t for a protest against the genocide in Gaza. They’re for a celebration of a genocide in Israel.

[not-a-fucking-mermaid]

If anyone has any good sources or advice for how to advocate for Palestinian rights without accidentally falling into antisemitic rhetoric or indirectly supporting antisemitic rhetoric that would be very much appreciated

[workersolidarity]

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LARGE PRO-PALESTINE PROTEST IN TOKYO CALLS FOR THE LIBERATION OF PALESTINE

📹 Scenes from large-scale Pro-Palestine demonstrations in Tokyo, Japan, calling for the Liberation of Palestine and rejecting the Israeli occupation's ongoing special genocide operation in the Gaza Strip.

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[amaditalks]

There are four possibilities for the people chanting “globalize the intifada” and “intifada everywhere” and none of them are any good.

They don’t care that they’re calling for mass terrorist violence and deaths because they don’t care who lives or dies. (The nihilist option.)

They assume that anyone who’d be killed in such violence deserves it and haven’t considered that it could easily be someone they claim to care about. (The true terrorist option.)

They’re willing to sacrifice the people they care about for “the movement.” (The true terrorist plus volunteering others for martyrdom option.)

They’re happy to chant whatever the loudest person tells them to, and they have no idea what the intifada even is. (The ignorant lemming option.)

People have to do better.

[deaddee-anime-brownfanlady]

The Free/Pro Palestine movement are nothing but a bunch of MAGA and GOP/Trump assholes enablers that have never given a shit about Democracy in this country or have never given a single FUCK about Palestinians.

Trump is out here seriously making plans to turn Gaza into a second City of Dubai for the wealthy. He's talking about ethnically cleansing Gaza and wanting to misplace many Palestinian people, even saying that he will use military force if he has to.

Yet I don't hear or see any massive protests or outrage from these so-called Pro Palestine "ActiviSts" and so-called Free Palestine student protesters on Trump and on his heinous horrid administration actions against the very people they claim and pretend to care about.

Yet they called President Biden " Genocide Joe" and has called Kamala a " Genocide lover " and all other terrible insults and just straight up racist and anti-black misogynoir comments about her.

Yet I don't hear anything on Trump from these useless pieces of shit rat-fuckers.

Fuck every single Pro and Free Palestine idiot fake activist who wouldn't know true legit real activism if it bite them in their assses.

The most useless and pathetic asinine unproductive movement in modern history that hasn't accomplished anything of importance whatsoever.

[hazel2468]

Kay you know that long ass post I just reblogged? With the absolutely unhinged antisemitic person tweets?

I saw someone in the notes being like “as a member of the Pro Palestine camp, we do not claim them!” And I’m like…

That’s the fucking problem. Because they ARE YOU. That kind of unapologetic antisemitic racist conspiracy? Is RAMPANT in Pro Palestine spaces. Online and in the real world. And at BEST people just ignore it and let it happen and at worst they AGREE with it.

You can’t just “they’re not with us” with this when I have yet to see a SINGLE fucking post about being Pro Palestine that doesn’t have someone in the comments devolving into antisemitic bullshit. They ARE with you- they are constantly there. And you guys need to fucking clean house because at this point? Idgaf if you say you “don’t claim them”, because there are enough of them that your movement is not only entirely unsafe for Jews, but at least 75% of the shit I see posted in the name of being Pro Palestinian is actually just antisemitic as fuck.

[redvelvetwishtree]

Question: All the kids and young people in Gaza witnessing their parents, siblings, cousins get murdered by Israel, their houses being pulverised, babies killed, dead bodies in their neighborhoods and ice cream trucks, father carrying his kids body p@rts in a plastic bag, aid denied, power gone...none of them will grow up normal and super chill. In addition to the trauma and other mental disorders, they will most likely want to (rightfully) avenge their families and friends' deaths, fight for their land that was bombed and have nothing but sheer hatred for Israel.

And then when they come together to fight for their land and families, and maybe give their resistance movement/group a name, will the western media automatically label them as terrorists from Day 1? Will their goals and objectives be termed as terrorism?

Because this will most certainly happen. Their childhood and youth is irreparably ruined in the most atrocious ways possible. You can't expect them to be super chill about the things they've seen.

But I'm sure Israel and the west will waste no time in labelling them as some barbaric terrorists who only want Israelis gone...

And they'll ask the future generations,"do you c0ndEmn this movement/group of people" before anything else...

[tiredgirlvent]

This is what True Bravery is !

She is standing there surrounded by psychopaths wearing masks , a few are not , screaming and yelling at her and calling her names !

The pro Palestine protestors are not brave :

You are not brave when you wear a mask to hide your identity and scream and yell like you are a lunatic.

Bravery :

It is like this woman who wears no mask , who isn't yelling and screaming like a lunatic , who isn't trying to hide who she is .

That is bravery

True Bravery

She has to have offices to protect her from this lunatic mob .

These protests have not helped one single Palestinian.

It wasn't meant to either

They could care less about these people

They use Palestinians as a catalyst so they can hate Jews out in the open !

She is brave 👍

They are not 👎

Bravery is not hiding who you are !

[aestariiwilderness]

But yes – sure, “Free Palestine!” supporters are worried for the Palestinian children. This man was so concerned “for the children”, in fact, that he directly copied Hamas’ efforts and…shot children to demonstrate his concern for children. Likewise – again imitating Hamas and so many other so-called Pro-Palestinians – he held individual children responsible for the imaginary crimes of a Christian elementary school/imaginary crimes of a nation, and attempted to kill them for it. And planned to do so again. Oh, and it’s not even done! To cap it all off, he planned to use his own "child" as a weapon to kill more children, in his concern “for the children”. Just like Hamas and the Palestinians themselves, who regularly send their own children as suicide bombers to Israel to kill Jews; who systematically brainwash their children into thinking their lives are only worth however many Jews they can kill. 

There is no sense here; there is no moral high ground, there is no freedom or justice or actual concern for anyone. There is only unreasoning, bigoted hate and a manic love of death. 

The children he shot -- 5 and 6 years old, respectively -- are alive, thank God.

[fairuzfan]

When's the anti-pro-Palestinian movement going to admit they have an islamophobia/anti-Arab/anti-palestinian problem

[the-great-games]

My fears regarding TikTok go beyond the blatant propaganda, narrative control, and censorship. I am concerned about the algorithm and the potential it has to be weaponized. It is so specific and accurate to find what niches, beliefs, and subcultures people are a part of that it could be used to identify people/groups the government want to target. The US didn’t want China to have the data because they wanted the data.

For instance, if they wanted to target crafty, left-handed, eldest siblings, who like [insert specific sports team here] all they would have to do is pull on the threads of the algorithm to have the accounts and information of people who were sorted into these specific boxes.

[workersolidarity]

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UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA LATEST TO ENDURE POLICE VIOLENCE AND SUPPRESSION IN NATIONWIDE CRACKDOWN

📹 Scenes from the University of Virginia, where student protesters were attacked, assaulted, and more than 20 arrested by police in the latest among countless crackdowns on college campuses nationwide.

More than 2'000 students across the country have been arrested in Pro-Palestine, anti-genocide student protests.

Police in riot gear have been widely used by elites to break up encampments using tear gas and rubber bullets on peaceful student protesters, while an officer in the NYPD reportedly "accidentally" discharged his firearm.

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[artsyrosie]

Friendly reminder to my fellow Phineas and Ferb fans that Disney Plus is on this list.

[tiredgirlvent]

If these delusional ignorant pro Palestine protestors actually cared about the Palestinians then they would be standing in solidarity with them as they protest against Hamas and not side with Hamas .

They choose to remain silent because the Palestinians are protesting against Hamas not Israel

They could care less about the Palestinians, it's all about their obsession with Israel .

They use the Palestinians as a catalyst to be out in the open with their Jew Hatred .

If this movement wasn't about jew hatred then why do they attack Jewish students on campus ?

Most of these students have never even been to Israel.

Jews walking down the street here in the united states , attacked ,spit on ,called names ! Have nothing to do with the conflict between Israel and Hamas

They do not care about the Palestinians

They never did

They are using the Palestinians and could care less that Hamas are killing their own people for standing up against them .

The pro Palestine movement is a sham !

[magamiaa]

Hilarious 🤣

Palestine was freed in 1948 when the Jewish people who actually started the " free Palestine" movement got their name back ( Palestine was named by the Europeans ) !