omg tiger feet reveal?? for free?? okay let me not be a shitposter lmao
here’s yet another piece of tumblr dedicated content from my session with my lovely friend apples :3 video is under the cut! hope you enjoy watching me get bullied hmph
There's something really fascinating about how Athena treats Diomedes so differently from how treats Penelope and Odysseus (even Telemachus but that's a lil different too)
Athena has basically known Diomedes since he was born (some even say that she had a say in naming him) because of Tydeus. I don't think it's far-fetched to say that in a way, she possibly "molded" him. And Diomedes is kind of known for being the "perfect warrior king". He's respectful of the gods and most of his comrades, an incredibly skilled soldier, and has already achieved so many things despite being one of the youngest kings in the war.
I sadly think that's why Athena treats him so differently than Odysseus, Penelope, and Telemachus.
She cares for him, but it's still "distant" in a way. Or almost in an "I molded you. You will react the way I would want you to therefore I will not be surprised."
When it seems like she's known her other favored mortals for less long, she didn't get to "mold" them. They surprise and
bring something "new" for her. She sees her little tricksters' scheme and plot and watches with intrigue but watching the perfect warrior is a "Yes, perfect form. That's what I'd do."
I mean even how her favored mortals pray to her tells you a lot about the relationships they have.
For example, in the Iliad, Odysseus doesn't need to really give as much reverence to her to "earn her favor" during book 10's Night Raid.
Odysseus rejoiced, and prayed to Pallas Athene: ‘Hear me, daughter of aegis-bearing Zeus, you who are with me in all my adventures, protecting me wherever I go. Show me your love, Athene, now, more than ever, and grant we return to the ships having won renown, with some brave act that will grieve the Trojans greatly.’
And Diomedes of the loud war-cry followed him in prayer: ‘Hear me also, Atrytone, daughter of Zeus. Be with me as you were with my father Tydeus in Thebes, when he went there as ambassador for the bronze-greaved Achaeans, camped there by the Asopus. A friendly offer was what he made them, but on his way back he was forced to take deadly reprisal for their ambush, and you fair goddess, readily stood by him. Stand by me now, and watch over me, and in return I will offer a broad-browed yearling heifer, unused to the yoke. I will tip her horns with gold and sacrifice her to you.’
(Book 10, A.S. Kline)
Diomedes brings up his dad and offers a young heifer (granted that could just be how Diomedes is with every immortal) while Odysseus doesn't and is basically like "Yo, help me out like you always do!". Odysseus is much more casual and personal with Athena. And with Penelope, Athena takes the form of one of her sisters to comfort her!
While Athena also most likely has known Telemachus since he was a baby, she's still closer to him than Diomedes.
Imagine that. You're basically molded by a goddess since birth, listen to her and other immortals dutifully, basically become her perfect warrior, and yet you can't seem to reach that familiarity with her. The same warmth she has for her other favored mortals.
as i'm workin on my Ancient stuff- i've got to say that it is really interesting and neat (read: nasty) that there's a good chance most of the Ancient population probably didn't actually wear masks. but We think they did cuz the only really solid evidence of what they looked like at all all comes from places of the higher social circles. and those strived for religious... superiority, i guess. brownie points, not actual dedication to the religion for the sake of its teachings but either because it made them look good, put them higher in the social hierarchy or whatever manipulation have you (or the flawed look upon the religion aka "we gotta get out of this cycle no matter what")
all we are left with are the bastards. the simple people and their cultures that were left to weather the Iterators' rains were simply washed away. nobody cared for their way of life- as long as it served the higher circles well and they stayed submissive (enough so that at the end everyone would take a dip in the void), nobody had to give a singular shit
just how much do we not know about the Ancients' *everything* because of this disregard? how much do we think we are right about, when such is true only for the small but privileged piece of the species?
okay so as a gen 5 stan who does adore the story in bw and bw2, and now that gen 5 has experienced both a vicious hatedom that wouldnt hear a single positive thing about the games, and now a super protective fandom that insists they were perfect and had zero flaws... can we admit now that the bw1 story at least was. a little mid.
62. How would outside characters describe their relationship?
Kala & Ali: The fuck is going on there but it's lowkey scary?? somehow??? (it's the being in sync as people and being in sync as wardens and committing to the bit)
During the blight/ before they were An Item: "maker they are so stupid"
Liam & Fenris: "if you go near them and get cavities don't say i didn't warn you" cit. Varric probably
There are definitely whispers and rumours during Champion times but Liam does keep his love life close to his chest.
Lilian & Isabela: The common impression is that they aren't serious and/or the relationship is purely superficial. During Kirkwall times there are rumours that the Champion is trying o hide her affair with the alienage elf girl by being so publicly physical with Isabela.
Lilian & Merrill: They are not romantically involved but observers beg to differ, and the two of them don't argue with it because they're also not not partners, and they don't owe anyone an explanation.
Early on Lilian is way more comfortable with "romantic" (i.e. what can be read as romantic) gestures towards Merrill since she, yknow, doesn't have romantic feelings for her. And people do love to gossip..
June & Cullen: Gonna get different impressions depending on who you ask; those who saw them early on probably thought it was a dumpster fire fuelled by pent up horny energy (they are not entirely wrong). People who see them later on assume they're your average romantic couple, and they've stopped trying to explain otherwise. There's def been more than one rumour about the spicy romance between the Inquisitor and her Commander.
Ari & Josie: A sight to behold for sure. Also scary as fuck, depending on who you are. If they display as a couple in public they absolutely do it On Purpose; most of the time, anyway. Makes it hard to discern if they are putting on a show, masking an affair, or genuinely an item; a goldmine for gossip, in any case
Also shout out to Var'Renan and Tamlen/ Var'renan and Morrigan who also are assumed to be a couple by outside observers a lot (they are not)
80. What tropes could be applied to this relationship?
Kala/Alistair: battle couple!
Liam/Fenris: i guess amicable exes applies in the og timeline?
Lilian/Bela: friends with benefits, and mutual pining for sure lol
Lilian/Merrill: fwb and i guess faux relationship, in a way?? though more in the sense that they don't bother correcting people/ explaining themselves because well. it's none of their business
June/Cullen: enemies to.. partners xd Enemies is exaggerated maybe, but a good chunk of the reason why they end up close is because they help each other work through the Issues TM that makes them start out disliking each other. In that sense ig both opposites attracts and birds of a feather also both apply
Ari/Josephine: courtly love? sort of? Does it count as office romance??
also, i think almost all of them qualify for slowburn lol
“A. Perfectly comfortable. A Jedi does not feel possessive of another’s time, and I understand his life is separate from mine. He may spend his free time with whomever he pleases, so long as he completes his duties and obligations. I feel fortunate to make the list as an obligation. To a boy who grew up a slave, I believe the concept of free time is precious to him. I am sure his free time is spent exactly as he wants it spent, with who he wants to spend it with.” 😭😭😭
ahhhh couples counseling au!obi-wan's answer to the form questionnaire's question "How comfortable are you if your partner spends free time away from you?"
and omg is this man LYING wow he is lying so much!!!!! how comfortable is he if anakin spends free time away from him??? the time where he is not doing jedi things?? the time he uses to sneak off and see his WIFE?? obi-wan is FINE when anakin spends his free time with his wife!! he is so fine. he thinks it's so cool. so. fine.
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including the excerpts from that form at the end of the chapters is actually something i really like that i did. at first, it stemmed from having built up the form and its importance for a prologue and a first chapter, and it didn't feel right to just say 'yeah and then they submitted it and she read it through' but also i didn't want to just drop the answers into the middle of the story or write an awkward scene where sheari and obikin just read each other what they wrote - i thought about it, and it felt way too stilted
so at the end as separate from the story is the best way i could think to include those answers!! and it also really does go to show like...how much both anakin and obi-wan are lying to themselves about their feelings/how oblivious they really are because obi-wan submitting this as his truthful "i promise i'm not drunk and have thought about this" answer and it still being so WILDLY different from his actions that chapter......
bestie the only thing that's similar is his understanding that for anakin, obi-wan is a jedi and part of the jedi order and the jedi order is anakin's job but not where he wants to spend his free time, ergo obi-wan is part of the jedi order and spending any time with him is part of anakin's duties. not where he would choose to be. because he has already chosen to love and marry someone else. and he never had a choice, not really, about obi-wan. when he chose to leave tatooine, it was to leave with qui-gon jinn
(send me a passage/line from one of my fics and i'll gush about it ig/tell you the "behind the scenes" stuff)
the whole thing about her sacrificing parts of herself for the sake of others. of forgetting one of her most important friends just so she could be saved from death. of never remembering what they lived together, but promising that she'll always keep a part of helena with her.
she's lost so many memories that she doesn't remember who she is, what she is, how old she is; all she knows is that she's a priestress, and that her role is to restaure the world tree. she doesn't have much, and yet, she's content with what she has. bari doesn't mind sacrificing herself; her compassion runs *that* deep
also. her bio:
"if she doesn't recognize you after a prior meeting, you should treat it as a compliment: it means she valued her time with you enough for it to count as the happy memory to pay for someone else's wish."
anyway i love bari i love self sacrificial characters etc etc
≥ Would be greater than or equal to. In this instance, it's used as a shorthand for anyone who is 26 & older.
≤, Similarly, would be less than or equal to. In this instance, it's used as a shorthand for anyone who is 25 & younger.
I would also like to clarify -- in this case, I chose "do you have" deliberately. You do not need to personally own/have purchased said PC -- regular use of a family PC, or a library desktop, or anything of the sort is enough to qualify you, if you would like.
i do think the jealousy in school reunion is really interesting i think thats a really fun part of the doctor companion dynamic to explore, what makes me roll my eyes is the we're both in love with him "the missus and the ex" thing
but like the jealousy thing on its own? just the flipside of the making people feel special thing that we explored a bit with 12. the doctor does single people out, does make them feel special, their attention is like a fucking spotlight who would be immune to that warmth
but the other side of that then is like, was it their attention that made me special? was it their companionship that made me special? thinking of donna going travelling "it's all bus trips and guidebooks and dont drink the water and two weeks later youre back home" like sure thats comparing what the trips are like but like, that also describes sort of like, who you get to be on those trips right? a tourist vs a hero
thinking of yaz in combat magicks being like "yaz liked wearing her uniform because it marked her out as someone who belonged anywhere. ready to help, and with the right to intervene. the doctor just breezed in and made the whole universe her business, like she was born to it, and yaz longed for that confidence." thats sort of what being the doctor's plus one gives you, right? access to everywhere, without consequences, except maybe your own death but the doctor makes you feel invincible too so you dont worry about that
so sure there would be jealousy but i think making it into an ex-girlfriend kinda jealousy flattens it? "in amongst 7 billion theres someone like you" and then you get to save planets. you become a part of the doctor's hero complex. you get to see beautiful amazing things but you also get to prove yourself a hero every day. thinking of rose "the doctor showed me a better way of living your life. you dont just give up. you have the guts to do whats right when everyone else just runs away" you get to feel powerful. you get a lot of agency where in your daily life you probably dont have a lot. thats what the doctor gives to those handful of the seven billion. so what if they take it away?
thinking of clara asking "why me?" and sarah jane "did i do something wrong?" why did i get this opportunity. and why was it taken away. was it anything i did? and if it wasnt, then doesnt that undermine all that agency you made me feel like i had? can i do this on my own too? and of course lots of companions prove they can, they dont need the doctor to be who they are but idk. i think it would still be kinda insecure-making when youre still with the doctor. when youre still in the middle of it like rose in school reunion. when you dont know yet what After will look like
and this is something the fam doesnt have to deal with i think. because they came to the doctor. they werent picked, they werent offered, they asked. they dont have to wonder 'why did you pick me'. which im kinda relieved about especially thinking about yaz? imagine having to wonder 'was i a friend of convenience' on top of everything else. oof.
and another thing is that of course for the doctor the rejection hurts just as much. when a companion says no thank you, your way of life doesnt seem that fun to me (anymore)
anyway so uh tldr i guess the jealousy thing is interesting but making it a romantic jealousy is not whats interesting about it
50 billion boyfriends Boreas’ Blessing made me immediately think “Boreas in a maid dress”
The internet has done this to me please send assistance I’m so sorry
you have no idea how much i despise that whole maid dress thing, i don't understand it one bit... i recommend the so called "touching grass" procedure n i don't mean this in a mean way but like actually it might help a bitsy. yanno get some fresh air into the brain n shit??
Ome has taken some kid as a student / apprentice / kinda adopted them if we wanna go real self-indulgent. Kid gets in trouble with school, teachers wanna talk to their caretaker.
Then they dealing with a goddamn mind flayer walking into the office room just like "I was told ____ caused some problems. I do apologize for such things and we will discuss this." Just totally professional and all that of course but yknow