#and the narrative doesn’t acknowledge that
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Here’s my imagination having fun.
TM: Let’s break up Buck and Tommy and make it really hurt. It’s gonna be great.
Writers: But, Tim, this doesn’t make sense. We’ve been laying the foundation for a long-term healthy relationship for Buck. You even brought Tommy back because of all the connections he had with the 118. You wanted Buck’s love interest to be connected so they wouldn’t be off on an island. This just feels like it’s coming out of left field.
TM: True, but I keep getting texts from Oliver and he wants “Buck to f**k” and I think that would be fun. I mean, he’s newly bi so he should sleep around with a bunch of people before finding the one. We can have a lot of fun with that. Just think of the possibilities.
Writers: But that goes against all the character development we’ve done for Buck over the last seven seasons. We wanted him off the hamster wheel and to get into a long term relationship. Plus, aren’t you being a bit biphobic with your statement?
TM: Nope, I like Oliver’s idea so let’s do that. Oh, and make Tommy the bad guy and don’t let any of the other characters encourage him to talk to Tommy. We can have fun with that…maybe have Buck baking to get over him or he wants to call Tommy and Eddie steals his phone. Yeah, I like that. Use it.
Writers: Are you sure? We’re gonna get a lot of pushback from the audience. We’ve all seen the overwhelmingly positive response the Buck and Tommy relationship has gotten online.
TM: That may be true, but because the audience is so invested in the relationship, it just makes it more fun when we break them up. Remember, based on our ratings, the audience will watch whatever we put out there. Besides, Tommy’s just a side character so they won’t care. They only care about Buck. Oh, and I wrote a whole scene about Tommy being engaged to Abby. Make sure to work it in. It’s genius.
Writers: Abby? As in the Abby Buck dated? That doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t fit the timeline or the previous episodes’ narrative. So, Abby was engaged to a firefighter from the 118 and then dates another firefighter from the 118 and what, it just slipped her mind? Seems like a bit of a stretch. Also, why didn’t Tommy tell anyone he worked with at the 118 that he was engaged? Wouldn’t that have helped him stay hidden from his team? Kept his secret safe?
TM: It doesn’t matter. Just retcon the timeline or ignore the timeline altogether. It’s not like anyone will notice. The audience doesn’t pay that close attention. Plus, they’ll be too upset over the breakup to care. It’s just such a great idea that I got from the fans who sent me that red string theory video. They’ll love the fact that I used it.
Writers: We’ve seen the video but that was to show how Buck and Tommy are meant to be together and not to cause problems. Won’t that upset people?
TM: I doubt it. They’ll just feel acknowledged that I used it and be grateful. The audience loves everything I do. Remember, these are the viewers who loved a bee-nado and my obvious ripoff on a 1975 airplane disaster movie. They even bought a 66 year old police sergeant and a 10 year old boy landing a heavily damaged plane on an active freeway in LA. So, it’s not like they expect reality in our stories.
One day after episode 6 airs…
ABC Executive: Tim, have you seen the number of saddened and upset viewers commenting on social media about last night’s episode?
TM: It’s amazing, right? I knew people would love it! We’re doing great things over there. You can expect this level of storytelling for the spinoff. You’re gonna love it!
Executive: I’m afraid you didn’t hear me. People are upset and saying they’ll stop watching the show. We’re even getting hundreds of feedback messages on the ABC site. People are not happy. How are you going to fix this?
TM: Don’t worry. People won’t stop watching. They’re all lemmings and love everything I write. Anyway, it will all blow over after the next episode. I threw in some Tommy crumbs that will make viewers think he’s coming back, which they’ll live off of and keep watching. Oh, and if that’s not enough, we have a scene with Buck and Jee baking that is so cute they’ll forget all about being upset over the breakup. Cute kids are the answer to everything.
Executive: 🤦🏻♂️
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We spent 8 seasons watching how everybody south and north of the wall scorned Jon for being a bastard and how even the doubt of the future king being illegitimate (while having the very plausible excuse of looking like his mother) burst a giant war where almost everybody dies and now we are supposed to believe Rhaenyra putting bastards (that don’t even look like her) on the throne has no political repercussions whatsoever?
#oh how we’ve changed#i think the change from the main audience of got and hotd have made an awful difference of how they portray the characters#for example in got we had littlefinger and cersei#and they were awful but people loved them bc they were smart and knew how to play the game#and characters like ned#people love him but they know he made stupid choices that killed him#and the main audience of got was older millennials and gen x or baby boomers#but in hotd most audience is younger millennials and older gen z#and it shows#so much faux feminism and fear of making a character unlikable if they aren’t perfect#they wanna make Rhaenyra a girlboss that never does wrong but she makes dumb choices too#and the narrative doesn’t acknowledge that#why is everything a misunderstanding or a mistake#let them be evil#even daemon got watered down#we have no conflict this is a hero vs villain story done wrong#good girlboss rhaenyra vs evil r*pist aegon#anti rhaenyra targaryen#Rhaenyra Targaryen critical#hotd#anti hotd
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genuinely p4 fandom outside of tumblr makes u feel like ur living in an alternate reality. You say hey I think u can easily read trans subtext and text in Naoto’s story because the game quite literally talks about transition surgery, and people act like you’re the insane one.
#I love being mansplained about misogyny in Japan by white dudes as well that’s. a truly incomparable experience#like I KNOW what narrative goal the story is trying to achieve man#but to reject a queer reading of the text as utterly incompatible (specifically ‘culturally incompatible’) is just stupid#you can literally examine the works of Japanese queer scholarship and look at the ways trans identity was conceptualised at that point#in time (and specifically pathologised as a mental disorder)#and how that was reinforced by depictions within Japanese art etc#queer identity MUST be acknowledged to exist within its specific cultural context yes#and we should not apply our cultural context as normative#but to decry that it simply doesn’t exist and that to make any queer reading of Japanese art is somehow ‘tainting’ the text by association#is just. crazy to me.#tunes talks critical#tunes talks persona
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I think it’s interesting characters like Big Mom and slightly even gear five luffy or even Homelander or just generally any superhero from the boys. Who are insanely powerful but find fights difficult or hard against weaker opponents because they lack battle I.q and are easily distractable.
Very might doesn’t always make right.
#i also like it cause it’s a way to keep the narrative interesting and explain why certain characters don’t just dominate#homelander instantly loses a fight with any character just as strong as him#because he just doesn’t know how to fight#love the boys for acknowledging that realistically homelander would have never needed to learn proper fight techniques#or how to block or just generally all the things you need to win a fight and stay safe#because he just didn’t have that problem#the inverse of this trope where “weak characters win because they are smarter or they just want it more#is also great but is done more because of the popularity of the underdog trope#but yeah I like it I think it’s interesting#throwing thoughts to the void#one piece#big mom#charlotte linlin#gear 5 luffy#monkey d luffy#homelander#the boys#op#superheros#thoughts
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i do genuinely think s7 is decent but even if it wasn’t it’d be like crack to me considering it’s an entire season essentially centred around sam’s trauma. it’s the closest we ever get to the show properly genuinely acknowledging the things it puts him through. which is ironic considering it’s also before many many other things he goes through!
#s7 could literally just have like the first couple episodes and repo man maybe born again identity#and i’d be like Omg this is my favourite :)#oh i also really like amy pond ep. dean killing her is awful and the arc goes nowhere but i don’t care about that part it’s the childhood#sam content for me#like sure yes. for at least half the season they don’t deal with it at all and it’s in the back burner#sam is just quietly hallucinating offscreen while dean does whatever the fuck#and there’s also that becky episode. which the less said about the better#but that beats an entire show of traumatising and violating him again and again and then refusing to ever directly acknowledge it or give#it any narrative attention#i genuinely think s7 is the only full season of spn after s5 which treats sam like a main character#s6 maybe? probably? soulless sam is pretty crucial. but sam doesn’t even have his memories of cage trauma then which bores me (sorry)#but like. s8 only at the end. s9 only really in the first half. s10 not at all. s11 it suddenly seems like they’ve remembered he’s a real#character and ur soooo hopeful until suddenly they just forget again and decide he isn’t relevant#haven’t seen any other seasons yet <3#oliver talks#spn#supernatural#spn s7
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how could you say that about your son, varric …
#❪ ⋅ ✹ ⋆ —┊ ❛ ooc. ❜ ❫#dav spoilers //#( pushing rp developed relationships / bonds into the narrative and being :( when b-ware doesn’t acknowledge it )
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“And by the way, I have a question and don’t fight me because I know how you girls like to tussle” -Khaenotbae on TikTok
The people who blame Sansa for Ned Stark’s death and criticize her for romanticizing Joffrey, do y’all have that same attitude towards Lyanna?
#asoiaf#sansa stark#game of thrones#a song of ice and fire#anti fandom#lyanna stark#y’all only acknowledge that women are victims when it suits your narrative#feminism doesn’t end when it’s a woman character that you don’t agree with#joffrey baratheon#Lyanna stark was also a victim#but y’all romanticized her and her abuser
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Okay @ the bright session fandom
Please tell me most of us grew up and realized that the narrative‘s treatment of Damien was just cluster b hatred masked as morals?
#the bright sessions#damien bright sessions#not saying he doesn’t do bad things or should be forgiven for everything#but like… they really went: we love depressed people and people with anxiety! your mental illness doesn’t define you#and then gave the guy with the manipulation ability who was intended as the villain obvious symptoms of bpd and npd and said that he is just#TOO mentally ill to become a good person#like let me make this clear: he is abusive and has done bad things I’m not saying that the other characters owe him anything#I’m saying that his treatment by the narrative implies the author’s disregard for cluster b personality disorders#i am criticizing the writing and very much not the characters because i acknowledge that their reactions to him are justified#damien gorham
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If there was one thing I would write out if DC canon it would be that stupid ass tim blowing up the base thing
#Idk man#like the whole ‘SEE TIM KILLS PEOPLE’#thing.#i treat that the same as when people say ‘Batman doesn’t kill but he’ll break every bone in ur body’#dramatic affect y’all#im sorry I don’t count it as death unless it’s acknowledged as death#by the narrative the character SOMETHING#like something besides ‘this would be badass to draw’#sorry doesn’t count#like if u don’t talk about the emotional ramifications it would have for tim I don’t wanna hear it#it’s just another way to be like ‘he’s so badass ruthless and cunning he only follows Bruce bc he wants to’#y’all would never say he needs to be on a leash like u think Damian does tho#Idk tho I haven’t read that in awhiiiiiiiile so maybe he did acknowledge it#if it was written right sure fine WHATEVER doesn’t negate that y’all don’t take it right
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has that other anon ever met an upper class brit because i guarantee they wouldn't feel the same after encountering All That
literally 😭 like comparing classism is so dumb when it’s very much a subjective, varied conversation WITHIN a country let alone amongst different countries but that sentiment can and should coexist with the acknowledgement that british classism Does Not Fuck About
#like u cant lob both country's classim under an umbrella term when comparing them#bc our culture and history with it is so wildly different#like american classism IS there and IS a serious problem the irony here is that literally at no point did anyone say otherwise#so idk why anon got so up in arms lol#but the thing about british classism and the reason it gets talked about so much is because it is such a huge part of our lives#and americans never seem to really get that like even americans that acknowledge it i feel still struggle to grasp the severity of it#I’ve seen a lot of much smarter well-researched people say that class and race in the uk and usa are flipped#so while it’s important to note that BOTH countries have serious issues in both departments the way they manifest is different#so the way race is treated with such severity/extremity in america and racism so normalised and systemic#is exactly how class is here#and the way classism is typically more indirect and underlying in america#is how racism is here#does that make sense? there’s a lot of articles online that explain it better#like im explaining it v briefly and it's obviously not that black and white but that's the general gist of it#and if ur american thinking ‘classism doesn’t FEEL indirect for me so you're WRONG’#then consider im not wrong. that's just how severe it is here for me to be saying it#like idk I can’t stand this narrative anyway of taking away from the original problem to instead have a pissing contest about it#so this will probs be the last I speak about it#but it’s super interesting and it can’t hurt to know more about especially with the prevalence of americacentrism#which is why I responded so harshly to anon to begin with bc like really?#you saw ONE POST that wasn’t about america or american problems and got upset. be serious rn#ask
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Daredevil (1964) #163
#it’s strange to see Bruce frame getting cured as a way to give to the Hulk peace#or even just to describe him as tortured#it’s not that there’s never been any stories where Bruce is empathetic to the Hulk#but it seems to me that the overwhelming majority is more understanding of the ways that the Hulk has negatively impacted his life#or the lives of the people around him#and doesn’t really acknowledge the Hulk as a person much less a person that struggles#seperate from Bruce- the idea that curing Bruce of the Hulk would be a happy ending for the Hulk is also just awkward#because it seems clear to me as a reader that that would mean making the Hulk not exist anymore#and that a real happy ending for the Hulk would be him being helped to live a satisfying life as he already exists#but obviously not everyone sees it that way because a lot of stories seem to narratively rely on the idea that the Hulk should be cured#like characters who have positive relationships with the Hulk expressing that Bruce not being cured is tragic#or stories that are clearly written with the expectation that Bruce failing to be cured is a tragic moment#and it’s not that it’s not entirely#because Bruce is very much a sympathetic character#but the Hulk is the one I’m more personally attached to#so Bruce being successfully cured would literally be a really sad story for me#I think that part of the tragedy of this character is that there isn’t a clear cut simple happy ending to root for#which is part of why I think he’s so conceptually well-constructed for ongoing comic book publication#marvel#bruce banner#my posts#comic panels
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hold on, are people making ‘doomed by the narrative’ posts about stories that don’t even actively acknowledge the narrative as a force affecting the characters?
#vt.talk#not sure if that’s the best way to word it but if so#people do realize that if you’re saying a character is doomed by the narrative in a story where it either#1) doesn’t acknowledge it’s a story (like all the characters assume they’re living in reality)#or 2) there is no fictional story in the story itself that mirrors what’s happening in the plot and thus makes it seem like the characters#are going according to that in verse story#it legitimately does not make sense to say a character was doomed by the narrative?#oh ig a better way to put it is: is the narrative an active character in the story? if no it doesn’t make sense to say it’s doom#just call it fate. I bet these stories probably have more references to fate in story than they do the narrative anyway
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been chewing on my Yukiko SLink thoughts for literal weeks and while I’m torn on a lot of elements, I think my biggest Thing about its central conflict is the way Yukiko is never actually afforded an opportunity open up about and to work through her feelings about taking over the inn with said community.
#I’ve been listening to some analysis of p4 that is coming specifically from Japanese YouTubers#so I think there’s definitely a cultural lens of prioritising collectivism over rigid individualism#my view is that if p4 is ALREADY being subversive by arguing that one must acknowledge the truths you’ve buried#otherwise they stand to harm yourself and others (because in avoiding them you ignore the ways in which they affect yourself#and thus the world around you)#and both within the ludonarrative and. literal narrative. one gains strength and resolve by openly engaging with those around us and#forming genuine bonds#doesn’t it stand to reason that this should extend to yukiko and her wider support system#even if she stands to possibly disappoint them?#like nominally souji is THERE. but his nature as a silent protagonist effectively makes him a soundboard to yukiko working out these#conflicts kinda. alone. yknow?#tunes talks persona#ehhhh maybe ‘alone’ overstates it. but idk. I just feel that the way her SLink is structured lends itself to being read as yukiko#processing her conflicts without Really confiding in anyone she stands to disappoint#and then yay? the conclusion she comes to allows her to not disappoint anyone?
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#‘so tired of hearing how two men can be close platonic friends without romantic feelings’#sounds like you have an issue with ryan and not other on the fandom that are choosing to actually acknowledge what he’s saying#instead of pointedly ignoring it like many others are doing lmao#feel whatever way you want about what ryan says (believe me i have somewhat complicated feelings about it)#but trying to make this about other shippers instead of one of the actors that plays one half of the pairing is ignorant#hell oliver said some version of this a few weeks back too but of course everybody pointedly ignored that as well lmao#anyway#that one post is going around that’s trying to paint some shippers in a bad light when they’re just actually choosing to listen to ryan#instead of ignoring him because it doesn’t fit your narrative lmao
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Very tired of people who continue to argue that Bill destroying Euclydia was completely on purpose and he didn’t care about anyone at all because he’s just trying to garner sympathy in The Book of Bill, despite all the supporting evidence outside of Bill’s words that allude to how deeply traumatic it was, (so many, many things about) how he loved and misses his parents, how much of a sore spot the topic is for him, how much he wants to return home but can’t, etc. in addition to how perfectly Alex and co. crafted a parallel narrative between Bill and Ford, including how they hurt the people they love out of carelessness and blind pursuit of their dreams, justifying to themselves that the people they hurt just couldn’t understand
Yes, Bill is an unreliable narrator, and that includes all the very obvious posturing that he did it all on purpose and it was actually a very good thing, that everyone loved him, that he’s NOT incarcerated or anything and that he’s still a really all-powerful being, etc etc etc. To fully believe that EVERY vulnerability he reveals is an evil manipulation tactic, and not actual character writing, you have to interpret his very prevalent denial of weakness, which continues into the conclusion of the book where he already knows he’s lost the reader and is still denying any emotional needs or trauma, as itself a lie.
There’s a reason why the Pines family cracked open this book and laughed at Bill, calling him a fractured, pathetic mess.
The Book of Bill has a plot, a great plot, and great character writing. It’s a crazy companion to Journal 3, Ford’s story. Parallel stories, but where one ends with someone healing from their trauma, coming to terms with one’s mistakes and accepting the need for human love and relationships, the other ends with one stuck forever in their layers and layers of denial, never acknowledging their own trauma, never acknowledging their need for human companionship, grasping in desperate need at their continued facade of hating to love and loving to hurt.
Bill isn’t an always-in-control sly master of the mind, he’s a delusional and desperate man, fractured by his own trauma, who will continue to hurt others to prove that he’s in control. I’m tired of the false narrative that abusers can’t have trauma, aren’t people, giving them this otherworldly status above all humanity. Aside from not being narratively or societally productive, it undermines the ending and message of the book. Acknowledging Bill’s brokenness gives his victims POWER over him. The fact that Bill needs Ford, but Ford doesn’t need Bill is powerful. Them laughing at his desperation is powerful. Looking at someone who once seemed untouchable to you and realizing they’re just a suffering meat sack like any other human being is powerful.
The ending of The Book of Bill is the demystification of Bill. The book is a real look into his mind, telling a story that’s actually very tragic. It’s a very real story, a cautionary tale. You’re not being manipulated or tricked if you feel bad, it’s a very intentional writing decision that this ending elicits that dark pity, as he desperately fades away (arts and crafts materials confiscated) saying that he’s FINE.
So yeah, The Book of Bill and the website are a masterwork of the character, I love them, they’re incredible, and I don’t want to see such a tight character story discredited as “you can’t believe ANY of it!”
#gravity falls#bill cipher#the book of bill#book of bill#gravity falls analysis#the book of bill analysis#bill cipher analysis#billford#? maybe? conceptually? is having parallel negative and positive story arcs about trauma gay folks#thisisnotawebsitedotcom#character analysis
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The primary reason I love the Greens is that they are so messed up. They are not perfect, they are not disinfected and favored by the narrative, and they are raw to the bone; they are real.
Aegon is as real as a devastated and soul-crushed father gets whose grief translates to anger and violence. Helaena’s silent inner turmoil and anguish haunt the Red Keep. Alicent has become a wreck as she weighs this tragedy the only way she knows how: against her own failed moral compass, holding herself responsible.
Otto sees his strings of power stretch and snap as he pursues the unattainable dream once more. Criston feels unworthy and consoles himself with the deception that he remains unsullied by still bearing a white cloak to his name, having been absolved of his original oath-breaking years before. And Aemond refuses to acknowledge any weakness or softness in front of his family so he seeks consolation elsewhere.
This green family doesn’t know how to process emotions, doesn’t know how to grieve together, and can’t find solace in each other’s suffering despite yearning for comfort. Otto doesn’t know how to comfort Alicent, Alicent doesn’t know how to comfort Aegon, and Aegon doesn’t know how to comfort Helaena.
Larys exerts his influence and puppeteers Alicent to his own liking by giving her a much-desired grasp of agency over political affairs. Alicent finds escape in undiscovered indulgences that give her the intoxicating illusion of control over a lifetime of servitude. Criston succumbs to the addictive drug of being desired and wanted on equal terms. The Greens live in a vicious circle of unhealed trauma, a bottomless pit of fears and insecurities, and a tangled web of deception and control.
They are wounded, dysfunctional, and forsaken, and that makes them so intriguing.
#the only interesting thing this show has to offer#pro team green#the greens#my green family#team green#green kids#hotd#hotd season 2#hotd s2#house of the dragon#house of the dragon season 2#hotd thoughts#hotd meta#welighttheway#hotd s2 e2#alicent hightower#larys strong#ser criston cole#criston cole#alicole#alicent x criston#criston x alicent#aemond targaryen#aemond one eye#aegon ii targaryen#helaena targaryen#helaena the dreamer#otto hightower#rhaenyra the cruel#greenqueenhightower
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