#and i even prefer s2 caitvi

[tbhshaped]

missing season 1 caitvi rn

[pastel-peach-writes]

hello!! i love your writing, so may i ask? may you write about fem!reader x caitvi with a reader that does ballet? thank you!🌷🌷💋

Sure! I'm a ballet dancer myself so I'm happy to do this request!

En Pointe | CaitVi x Reader

╰┈➤ PLOT: Headcanons of CaitVi with a ballet dancer girlfriend!

╰┈➤ WARNINGS: No Spoilers(S2), She/Her Pronouns, Not Proofread, Suggestive Themes (Second to Last Paragraph)

⍣ ೋ Enjoy!⍣ ೋ

– As someone who's also physically active, Vi makes sure you're taking care of your body after long nights of rehearsal.

– She gives you supplements that help with muscle recovery, makes you protein shakes or smoothies that help you last throughout dress rehearsals or performances, etc.

– She also will invite you to work out with her when your teachers tell you that you need to work on conditioning or stamina.

– If you're running late to practice and your hair is a mess, Caitlyn will always be there to help you with it. Whether that's putting it in a ponytail so you can put it in a bun later or flat-out doing the bun for you while you prepare snacks and waters for class.

– Furthermore, the girls love to attend your rehearsals to watch you dance or to get familiar with your dance studio/school. Sometimes they come during late-night practices with dinner or during early morning practices so they can take you out for brunch later.

– When the time comes for pointe shoe fitting, trust that Lady Caitlyn and Vi are right there at your appointment. The two of them are astonished with how pointe shoes work and never knew how much care and preparation goes into them.

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"What do you mean you have to sew them yourself?" Vi asked after her first fitting with you, appalled to hear that the ribbons and elastic come separately.

"Some teachers and dancers prefer different styles of ribbon, elastic, cut, and placement so to make things easier on the pointe shoe makers, the dancers sew the shoes themselves," you informed Vi but Caitlyn was nearby taking notes.

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– On days when you forgot a certain pair of shoes or tights, one of the girls would rush home to grab them for you. Even if they were in the middle of work.

– And on the off chance that they can't leave work to help you out, Caitlyn either finds or hires someone to purchase a new pair of shoes for you and then deliver them to your location.

– Safe to say you have many pairs of canvas ballet shoes and even contemporary/jazz shoes if you dabble in those genres too.

– Upon supporting you through your practices and giving you motivation on hard days, Caitlyn and Vi are always there at your shows and performances with flowers or a stuffed animal if you don't like flowers.

– They've told their family and friends about the show too so you have at least two rows, or one really big row, of supporters at every one of your performances.

– Caitlyn would get her family, Jayce, Mel, maybe even Viktor while Vi gets her crew (Yes, including Vander, Mylo, and Claggor), and her sister to attend. Even some of the coworkers Vi got close to attend your shows sometimes.

– After every show, they make sure to feed you. So if you're in between shows, for instance you finished a morning show but you still have an afternoon and evening performance, they would quickly get you food from a nearby restaurant if craft services wasn't provided or good.

– If you only had one show that didn't cut too late into the night, they take you to whichever restaurant you want.

– It could be a restaurant you saw on the way to the venue that you wanted to try or your favorite one back home. Either way, you're getting fed and they're happy to pay for whatever you want.

– On days when practice was an absolute ass and your body was a mess and too sore to function, Caitlyn offers to draw you a warm bath while Vi offers to draw you an ice bath.

– Sometimes they get into petty arguments about which bath is better and what you truly need at the time but usually, they come to a decision on their own.

– After your bath, warm, ice, or both, a meal would already be ready for you and the bed open for your laying.

– If you were too tired to eat, one of them would feed you in bed while the other massaged your sore muscles and applied muscle repair cream.

– If you're one to enjoy adult activities, sometimes the massaging gets carried away. Especially if you're just in your towel. But trust, it's all consensual and if you're not in the mood for such activities, the girls don't even encourage it.

– Okay, that's all! Hope you guys enjoyed <3

WC: 732

[alive-ahaha-fuckk]

✨ My top ten fav ships of all time* ✨

*(as of 2024)

1. Yennskier (Yennefer/Jaskier) | The Witcher. Not canon at allll hahaha but rly they should just ditch geralt

2. Jayvik (Jayce/Viktor) | Arcane. Semi-canon?? they’re literally soulmates lets be so fr🙄

3. Pricefield (Max/Chloe) | Life is Strange. Canon ofc🦋

4. Claudeline (Claudia/Madelaine) | Interview with the Vampire. Canon but they never even kissed wtf!!!!! 😡😡

4. Loustat (Louis/Lestat) | Interview with the Vampire. Canon, very very very canon🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

6. Catradora (Catra/Adora) | She-ra. Canon & Iconic🤞🏻

7. Wolfstar (Remus/Sirius) | Harry Potter. Not canon but the vibes were there🏳️‍🌈 Fuck Jkr for many many reasons 🏳️‍⚧️

8. Reddie (Richie/Eddie) | It. Kind of canon?😭 but in a painful way

9. Caitvi (Caitlyn/Vi) | Arcane - Canon! … I preferred them in S1😭 if their story didn’t go the direction it did in S2 they’d be higher😕

10. Damie (Dani/Jamie) | Haunting of Bly Manor. Canon!! But soooo sadddd 😭

Honestly very interested in what ppl think this says about me😌

[antispopausandstuff]

What do you think about people comparing catra to Caitlyn from arcane

ah, i had a feeling i'd be asked about something along these lines.

okay, so, just to get this out of the way:

i'm aware that Arcane s2 has very polarizing opinions, points of views, and thoughts from the community, and, provided it's nothing extreme, they're all valid. though my words are largely subjective, i want to apply as much objectivity as possible to create a better picture, rather than complete bias with no desire for discussion.

s2, in my opinion, wasn't as well-written as it could've been. i don't hate it, but i would've made different writing choices for the characters, their arcs, etc., and i feel the ending was lackluster as a result of lack of closure. this includes Jinx's own ending, Isha, Vi's cycle of self-destruct and complicated family, and how i feel there was not enough screentime for the plots and characters given, especially Ekko, Mel, Kino, and Ambessa. and i do feel like the writing choices negatively affected Caitlyn's character, as well, even if i do understand and sympathize with her as a person.

objectively speaking, Caitlyn's dictatorship ( i believe that's what it is, iirc ) was more on-screen than Catra's, but Catra's crimes was heavier, quantity wise, including universal genocide.

because of SPOP's disregard for "show, don't tell", amongst several other factors ( Catra being a creator's pet being the main one ), there is little to no actual weight to her actions, even with the main cast. if there is consequences, it's either more personal than it should be, her mental breakdowns or Horde Prime chipping her, or fleeting, the destruction of Salineas. this is likely why people don't care much for Catra's actions, because there's no legitimate consequences that aren't just her being sad // distressed.

but, while not the best, Arcane writers take into consideration the impact of and to the people. Caitlyn's decisions did have consequences, and it affected more than just her. it changed Zaun, and with Silco and Jinx's absence, the people were anxious and needing a beacon in order to feel safe and empowered.

however, i don't think it's as simple as comparing Caitlyn to Catra.

in the eyes of the people, it wouldn't matter, obviously. as a result of taking her grief and thirst for vengeance out on them, the people of Zaun felt even more unsafe when they were already suffering.

but to us, as the audience, we can empathize with grief blinding us and leading us to making poor decisions that end up being detrimental to our and everyone else's health. keyword: empathize.

Caitlyn still hurt people. there is no denying that. i am simply saying that we can understand where she was coming from and that her grief was taken advantage of by Ambessa.

to their world, it's black and white. people suffer and // or die at the hands of someone in power.

to us, it's more or less than that.

still wanting to remain as objective i can be, i will say Caitlyn's are far easier to remember and hold against her, and rightfully so. but i believe that Catra's are worse and should've been displayed as worse, rather than stated or turned around to be a way for us to feel bad for her own downfalls.

now, let's move onto Caitlyn and Vi // Catra and Adora.

like with the season, i prefer s1 CaitVi over s2.

for me, the divide and conflict felt too similar to how their relationship originally started out and was too repetitive. it felt like the writers wanted another reason for them to break apart, when there was a lot of time spent to them forming together.

but i think CaitVi has more room to grow than C // A ever really did.

for one, Caitlyn and Vi have cared for each other more than they've hurt each other. even when they were at odds in s1, there was no point in the story where they left one or the other to die. if something bad happened, it was by circumstance, not by choice.

but Catra had always hurt Adora more than she cared for her. from physically harming her to degrading her, engaging in extreme sadism, and nearly killing her, purposefully, on multiple occasions, there's no actual evidence that Catra deeply cares for Adora, or that she cared to begin with.

for another, Caitlyn had more reason than Catra. Catra was given multiple chances to make better choices, but she never did and it was intentional and out of spite.

what was Caitlyn going to do with the fact her mother was killed, that her girlfriend's sister was the murderer, and that her girlfriend stopped her from doing from killing the culprit because she thought she'd kill a kid instead?

of course, it was highly likely that she would've killed Isha. again, blinded by grief. but Caitlyn didn't think that way. in her mind, she has more evidence of being an excellent shot than not, so, obviously, the possibility of her killing the child was 0, right?

( and i don't think Caitlyn cheated on Vi with Maddie. i read the end of their argument as a break-up, especially because Vi disappeared. )

and, for one last thing, even when she knew Vi didn't trust her and kept fighting with her, Caitlyn still tried to help.

overall, i think CaitVi did have a... meh(?) ending, but i still prefer them over C // A. if nothing else, for the foundation.

i don't think Caitlyn and Catra are the same. i just think the Arcane writers had more respect for their audience than SPOP did.

[va1kyr14]

Right, I have time to sit down and really digest what happened yesterday so here goes. This is mainly going to be about Caitvi but will contain others.

Be warned if you haven't watched it!

So firstly what a fucking ride.

The animation, the story and what they have done is absolutely incredible and have set the bench mark for future studios because my tiny brain is blown.

But diving into the things that I thought could have been better, like a lot of people have said, the pacing seemed off when they nailed it in S1. And yes I did wait until everything was released to share my thoughts. We probably got even more Caitvi content than S1, but with everything going on everywhere and it being a faster paced in regards to action, It did seem like the relationship from S1 to the end was just a bit off. Not saying it wasn't incredible, it was, but I think there were things that didn't add to the story much which could have been replaced with other character progression.

Having said that, I watched all of S1 all in one go when it came out, and I think that if we did the same with S2 and one straight after the other, I don't think we would be necessarily seeing it as much. Just my thoughts.

We didn't get an Caitlyn apology only an acknowledgement apart from when she was speaking to Jinx and an angry Vi separately. We could argue that the way she spoke to Vi before the spice was her was of apologising but I don't know I really would have liked a better explanation.

I did love the two sides of one coin but not the fact that you can't have a universe where both sisters live. That broke my heart but understand it. I also do think Jinx survived, and got out the vents and went off in the blimp at the end. I think Cait knew too, being her smart self but knew that Vi would go after her if she knew. That was a sweet scene at the end - even though not a fan of pirate Cait as I said in a previous post. I hope if they do something in the future she has like a fake eye or something I would prefer that over a patch.

Now moving onto the SEX SCENE....

Holy fucking shit. I don't know what I expected but it wasn't that. The animation, the fucking intimacy the likes I have never seen, it was perfect. I do think the setting was a bit weird but when you have all the pent up frustrations and lets be honest they are dramatic lesbians, Its going to happen. I would have liked to have seen it maybe in Cait's bed if anywhere but the urgency mixed with gentleness and all the little micro actions.

The PULL IN AFTER THE UNDOING OF THE BUCKLE.

I can't. Like I am speechless.

It was everything I hoped from a first time, from the giggles to everything else and just every tiny action jesus these animators are something else. I am not ashamed for Netflix to watch the algorithm and see I have watched that same 2 minutes for about 9 hours straight.

It has broken boundaries, not just for queer representation, the fact that neither of them died and got a happy ending in something like Arcane is remarkable, but in regards to animation of a sex scene a lesbian one at that, I think the benchmark has now been set and it will be known as this generations' Korrasami. This is will go down in history and I am not even being dramatic.

Anyway that was more of a ramble than an in depth post, and I have no idea what to do with myself now. We have AO3 and fanart and I guess we will have a bit more content until the end of the month with promotion but I guess when you have a hyperfixation you aren't ready to say goodbye. So I raised a glass to all the content creators who are now going to carry on the mantle. I will be reading and liking everything I can, I salute you.

To summarise, the series could have been better IMO but thats what happens when expectations are so high, there was none of that in series 1 and it was perfect in my eyes. You can't please everyone, but I think Arcane as an overall package is wonderful and Caitvi will live on in my heart and others which have created a benchmark for queer content and I am so proud of everyone involved.

And to all the fellow queers out there...

We did it, we won.

[stanlunter]

This is probs controversial but Timeb**b was flat and fanservice. It felt like a waste to even explore in season 2. If they had 3 seasons then sure it could have worked. I’ll also be a CaitVi lover, they needed more time in season 2. I would have rather seen more time dedicated to them or Jayce/Viktor or other storylines

You know, I can somehow agree, but not fullh

I do think Timebomb is a good ship, but I don't think it qas fan service

I would say that's the problem of s2 in general

It probably would be better if Jinx and Ekko had more screen time in s1 because it would be better if their relationship was shown more gradually, while what we have is them almost not talking with each other during s1 act 1 (besides the Enemy clip) and then them fighting. Which doesn't seem enough to reveal us their relationship fully and that makes a lot of people doubt this ship. I'm one of those who never cared about them till s2ep7, cuz I haven't played LoL, so their fight only wasn't enough to make me be interested in them. And the creators just suddenly giving us the whole episode about them was so random?? Especially for people who never shipped them. They just didn't have enough time to see the bond between Jinx and Ekko and to see how deeply Ekko actually cared about Jinx this whole time. While from Jinx's side we couldn't even tell anything besides the fact that used to be childhood friends. Even tho I enjoyed seeing them together happily and did love the episode, it qas to sudden with the screen time they had together before.

So I don't think it was exactly fan service, rather just a bad writing (which isn't even surprising in s2). The writers couldn't make a good timing for us to see Ekko caring that much about Jinx before and then they could only drop a full episode of them.

I can't say I would prefer Caitvi episode instead of Timebomb. I just wish they both could co-exist and have enough screen time not to be rushed and to be shown better this season.

This also can be applier to Caitvi writing in s2 tho. The ships themselves are good, but the writers did have problems with time and couldn't show them good enough and it's sad

[fortykee]

Lookin for RP partners

(Posting this for a friend)

I've just recently finished watching Arcane S2 and I NEED some roleplay in my life! I'm crazy into Caitvi and I'd prefer to rp Cait! I am also familiar with the league of legends lore and can add characters from the game too (if we ever get bored C: IS NOT A MUST OFC.). All I ask for is... please no minors. For obv reasons. I roleplay via Discord **only** and I prefer if my roleplay partner likes to plan along. Possibly even gushes over lore/art/characters. Be it about arcane or anything they like really. I'm in need of some FRIENDSS. Surely there's people out here feeling the exact same way~ Please message me on discord if you're interested! My username: queenserah (you don't need the numbers at the end anymore!)

[chronicsyd]

Sapphics: I want an enemies to lovers arc

Sapphics when the characters act like enemies: no not like that!

Like seriously, the hells wrong with some of y’all? Catradora were literally at war with one another and with the current power dynamics in the show Catra couldn’t just drop whatever she was doing and play for the other team. Especially once s3 happens and Shadow Weaver ends up in Brightmoon. How do I know this? Cause we already got our answer once she popped back up in s5. The only plus side would be Catra seeing through the bs that was Glimmers behavior in s4 (speaking of which, “Glimmradora was healthier” people need to get off your high horse cause she treated Adora JUST as poorly in s4 basically saying “hey you’re only here cause you’re sometimes useful to us” ok I can’t start talking about this cause I’ll get sidetracked by getting angry. Moving on)

And it’s outright boggling to me that sapphics will cry out “we want enemies to lovers” until they ACT like Actual Enemies. Cause the truth is you don’t want enemies, you never did. And the reblogs on my last post only prove my point on the matter cause while Amity and the others of the Boiling Isles grew up under strickt rule by Belos and their parents it wasn’t War. That’s what we gotta keep in mind here. Catra and Adora grew up as child soldiers in an army however Adoras mind want fully loyal so when she saw what the Horde was doing and needed to ditch her ideologies she abandoned them. However, Catra saw that as a “Im leaving because of you” kinda deal no matter how the latter claimed the opposite.

Another thing i find Absolutely Hysterical is that y’all will bash Catra then immediately turn around and praise Zuko’s character even though they had practically the same character arc “Zuko didn’t do things as bad” eh did we Forget he helped Azula take over the Earth kingdom at the end of s2 and Aang would have died if it weren’t for Katara’s magic water (plus Several other things?all I’m saying is that Y’all don’t remember pre-redemption Zuko as well as ya think ya do) but I’m getting sidetracked here. Im probably gonna talk more about this comparison later hell I might go rewatch ATLA and take notes on this.

If you don’t like “enemies to lovers” Whatever. Don’t ship it. I honestly don’t care it’s Your shipping preferences. But for gods sake don’t get pissy when enemies act like enemies cause it’s exhausting for those of us who do enjoy it watching your little screaming matches while trying to find content. 🤦‍♀️

(Im probably gonna also bring up Caitvi at some point cause even they don’t truly fall into enemies to lovers but that’s for another time)

(And one more thing: a lot of people claim Glimmers “I love you” came out of nowhere but it was in very much the same vein as Catra’s “Im sorry for everything” as in “I may never see you again, so make this last meeting count”. Yk? Ok NOW I’m done)

[blood-starved-beast]

I attribute this competition to being a consequence of Arcane's tragedy. The idea that the sisters are doomed in some capacity holds over even to the AU. That regardless of whatever universe, something always tears the sister apart. Arcane, seen through those lens makes a lot more sense. Vi's arc and the "failure" of her protector role, Jayce and Viktor's ends, the failure of Mel's dream in Piltover all reflect that fall.

The competition exists, and it was good for no one. The show acknowledges this. It is another cycle of hatred. Jinx escalated this, or rather, the circumstances led to this which Jinx's traumas escalated, and Vi'sown maintained/supported it. The slap led to Vi's memory being permanently marred in Jinx's mind later when it heals. Their co-dependency was always gonna get between vi and her own happiness, as well as Jinx's. Jinx even put the ultimatum in Vis head to have her and kill Caitlyn, or else. This was in s1ep9, in the context that Jinx had violated Caitlyn's privacy, kidnapped her, Silco and Vi. The point drawn here is that curently, jinx's and vi's relationship is doomed. They do not really know each other, only though past memories overlaid with trauma and tragedy. Every time they meet this tragedy continues and they either ruin it for each other, or circumstsnces either tied to their decisions do. Jinx makes the realization hence her decision to run away and end that cycle. Both her and vi and their respective traumas make each other worse, not better. As for the passivity of Vi's choice - does it need to be a statement? In Vis ideal world, she gets both Cait and Jinx - that is her family, and her need to protect em both would be satisfied. But what she wants isnt what she gets in this tragedy, and at least she has Caitlyn still. She couldve made that choice to chase after Jinx after Caitlyn freed her, but she decided to stay. And for once, Vi gets something positive out of it. She gets Caitlyn yes, but she also gets the freedom to not be a protector anymore. She is freed of the burden of being just an older sibling. She can be vi, someone who has options ahead of her. The tragedy is, it comes at the cost of her relationship with Jinx. But unfortunately that is the price of Vi's greatest srmtrength and her fatal flaw - inability to not stop loving Jinx. As long as jinx stayed around, shell never escape thaf role of being the protector. She could never discover herself.

I agree that some aspects of s2 feel a bit fanfic-y. The Vander hug scene kinda, the AU episode, etc. But imho i dont agree on the whump aspect because of the show being again, a tragedy. It's whump if say Hamlet or any tragedy is whump. The reason bad things happen to Vi or any of the characters is cause the decisions they make lead em there. Vi chases Jinx whom she has a toxic bond with and it leads to Caitlyn abandoning her. Caitlyn, jinx's foil, prioritizes her obsession to right her mistakes with not taking the shot and her grief costs her Vi. It costs her her moral beliefs and gets her into a puppet dictatorship which she did not want. Jinx, on her split choice between Silco and vi in s1 - she loses Silco, and later she thinks she loses Vi (to being an evil cop). She comes to realize she's hurt her regardless. As for the Caitvi weirdness, i think they were always gonna be weird about it.they bonded over Vi nearly dying and being saved via shimmer and various other near death experiences. They made out in a sewer. Ive mentioned in another post, just cause sex and perhaps kink exist, doesnt make it bad. It doesnt make it fanficcy either.

This is just my personal opinion, but how the greater fandom responds to things, it's not my concern. People are free to see things as how they choose. Fanodm especially in recent years seem to prefer trope-y, formulaic storytelling. If characters don't do xyz then the writing is bad instead of trying to engage with what the author actually meant. Dont realize they mightve been wrong.

that being said - there is a strong recency bias with timebomb. They went from barely having anything to being an actual ship. So ppl rejoyce, but forget they had one scene in s1 and deleted scenes. Caitvi had that honeymoon period in 2021-22, but id still argue it is better written by virtue of actual having development,not just limited to actually having onscreen development tgat arent deleted scenes. Timebomb and it tragedy is very much the idea of "what could've been" and not what was. Cause really, main canon Jinx and Ekko barely had a thing and frankly no way in hell there wouldve been the way things were turning out. Jinx's choice sealed that fate. Caitvi was and is the main ship and it had 2 seasons to develop. And it paid off. From the start it was always a show, not tell ship, and ended so. I think once the initial hype dies down, things'll stabilize.

Also, there is uh, a certain expectation that lesbian relationships have be portrayed a certain way in fandom, we cannot ignore this. Hence my talk about the fandom trend of being prudish and puritan. And that's not including homophobia and why some fans hate caitvi regardless of kink involved- we cannot remove irl from fandom. This is not a major part of the fandom but i have seen ppl express the sentiment under thinly disguised lenses/pretexts. Ive been in fandom long enough to know its stench. Caitvi is queer, which is trangressive, and then kinky/intimate (and not just about the sex), which is transgressive. So yeah. It was doomed for controversy. But i respect authors who want to do something, and they do it than if they feel as though they have appeal to the masses. Challenge ppl, how they precieve writing and stories, than submit to them I always say. Imho, ive seen more ppl on an individual level talk about caitvi and arcane, but i dont watch many yt cideos that arent riot song playlist lmao.

Now, i dont mean to say your opinins are vad, just to clarify. Or that you cannot read the story. These are just my opinions

@blood-starved-beast

My concern with ViCait isn't really that it's bad or illogical or unhealty.

It's more like:

“We finally get to answer ‘What would Vi do if she didn’t have anything left to protect?’” Overton says. “She would choose Cait.”

Source

This bothers me due to:

1.) imo it has consistently felt like Amanda feels possessive over ViCait vis a vis Vi&Jinx. That ViCait and Vi&Jinx is a contradiction, it's a competition. And that is always going to rub people the wrong way who either think it shouldn't be a competition (why can't Vi have both? Why should Jinx being in Vi's life be a threat to Cait? Is that kind of fucked up way where Cait has to possess Vi completely and there can't be anybody whether Jinx or Vander or whoever to take away Vi's attention or emotional energy?) or that if it's a competition then Vi should choose her sister and it's immoral to not put her sister first.

(I personally don't care that deeply, but imo that explains some of the fan reactions)

2.) Even if you see it as a competition. Of it's "Jinx versus Cait". And as a romance you NEED to have Vi pick Cait over Jinx. The fact that Vi chooses Cait only after she has (passively) lost Jinx, after Jinx has forcefully and against Vi's will removed herself from the equation lessons the romantic power of the choice. Yes from a character point of view Vi choosing Cait over her sister is more fucked up. But from a romance POV the bigger choice is Vi does it proactively and with intentional agency, because she loves/wants Cait just that damn much because the promise of a life with Cait is just that damn appealing and not because everything else has been taken away from her first. That feels like Vi is being cornered into that choice rather than Vi making that choice as a big powerful statement. (even if the cornered choice is something that Vi does genuinely enjoy and likes, the fact that she has been cornered into it rather than proactively choosing it makes Vi and the romance weaker)

3.) Some of Arcane feels like fanfiction made real. That doesn't have to be a bad thing. Ekko going to the happy AU is pure fanfiction plotting but imo they pulled it off. There's a reason why so many reviewers name it as their favorite episode. Because they did pull it off.

But part of me looks at season 2 in particular and feels like somebody writing a Vi Whump Fic. And there you just run into the problem that there are just some thing, some cadences of emotion and plot that make sense in fanfic (like ie exhaustive curtain picking fics) that just don't work as well as a main work. (ironically that's one thing I really noticed in the 50 Shades of Grey movies, that they follow the cadence of a fanfic [main character gets threatened and saved, then they have sex, guy gives her a gift, then they have sex, main character has an unpleasant run in, then they have sex, guy gives her another gift, then they have sex], that fanfic/porn plotting, and that's why the pacing of those movies feels super weird for a normal movie, why it's hard to put them into a traditional act or character arc structure).

I don't really begrude ViCait as a little bit of "my weird, messy, slightly kinky side thing", but if on some level you were trying to write the big BAMF f/f OTP of all times, the Han and Leia for the gays, imo general, shared audiences are always going to favor agency and proactiveness.

I don't dislike ViCait and I can still like them as the messy chaotic thing. But imo the squee over ViCait has been muted compared to what it would have been (imo) if Vi had just been a little bit more proactive and forceful.

(admittedly, that could just be my youtube algorithm throwing way more "Ekko and Jinx is zomg so deep!!!" analysis videos my way compared to undiluted and unmarred ViCait squee)