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rewatched aragorn’s coronation scene and i just realized you can see elrond’s heart breaking as she goes to join aragorn
like, that is the face of a man who was promised eternity with his daughter, a reunion in the west no matter what happened, only to lose her forever to love
#i’m sobbing i’m so normal about elrond and arwen#elves live forever and they see each other again one day even if they die#but she’s never going to see her mother again#he sails west like a few years later and then he’s never going to see her again#and he’ll have to explain why to her mother#lotr#lord of the rings#arwen#elrond#tolkien#jrr tolkien#peter jackson#lotr movies#return of the king
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there are many reasons I like the "Erestor son of Caranthir" headcanon but secretly the main one is that I'm imagining all of the remaining noldo auditors sighing of relief when Caranthir dies and they don't have to try play 4d chess with multiverse time travel trying to catch this guy doing tax evasion. life is good for exilic auditors now.
and then suddenly Elrond and Elros turn up again! even better! oh who's this, Elrond? your good friend Erestor? he's helping you with your taxes? oh how swe- what is this Elrond. What is this. your paperwork for your taxes you say. not a declaration of war? because it looks like a declaration of war on the exilic auditors, Elrond.
and then all the auditors are so busy doing "extreme tax auditing™" for the first time since the second Kinslaying that they don't tell anyone they're pretty sure there's another scion of the house of Fëanor running around.
#in my mind Erestor takes after Haleth#so no one is clocking him on finwean vibes#Erestor manages not to commit war crimes by entertaining himself with creative tax evasion#which obviously was how he and Caranthir bonded#chief counsellor erestor you mean the person writing all of the feanorian faction as elrond's dependents#thats the easiest way to get a feanorian census btw#check the taxes#tax elf 2 electric boogaloo is just something that can be so personal#this is EVEN funnier if you ship glorestor#please imagine glorfindel trying to woo erestor#and erestor is like “i don't care WHO the valar send- you'll never catch me”#glorfindel the valar appointed tax collector (in erestor's mind)#tolkien#silmarillion#silm#erestor#caranthir#elrond#the silmarillion
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Elladan and Elrohir: *bickering like typical siblings at the dinner table*
Thranduil: Control your barbaric children, Elrond. They should be more refined in company. They should behave more like my Legolas. *gestures grandly at his son*
Baby Legolas: *squatting in a tree breaking open an acorn with his teeth like a squirrel*
Elrond: ???????
#Thranduil#Being blind to his son being a total weirdo even by elf standards is peak#Because his baby is perfect no notes#Elrond#To be perfectly clear thranduil would be livid if the twins tried to do the same thing#They are setting a bad example for his elfling who is now stuffing as many#Sweets as he can into his robes for later#Note: his robes do not have pockets
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one of my favourite bits of headcanon within the tolkien fandom is how Gil-galad is only maybe, possibly, dubiously, potentially actually the rightful king of the noldor and how Elrond is absolutely not questioning this nor letting anyone else question it because he's doing his very best to dodge the crown
#gg: actually i'm not even sure i'm descended from any royal house i could just be some dude#elrond: do NOT say that in public#tolkien#it just makes me giggle
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Sauron: What the fuck is wrong with you?
Elrond: According to everyone, a lot.
#Sauron's been trying to kill Elrond all day#Elrond just sits there watching him do it all and doesn't even flinch#it makes Sauron very angry every time his attack misses#Elrond's not wven fighting back!#lotr#lord of the rings#incorrect lord of the rings quotes#silmarillion#incorrect silmarillion quotes#incorrect quotes#elrond#lotr elrond#elrond peredhel#sauron#lotr sauron
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RoP gave us a kiss that was full of emotion but entirely devoid of romantic subtext, and next episode we're going to get a sword fight so charged with romantic and sexual tension that people are going to actually lose their minds.
Adar is simultaneously praising the beauty of a woman (Melian) and a man (Elrond), while also simultaneously praising the beauty of a Maia and a half-elf. While also caring for his enormous family of uruk children. He is a person who literally changed his state of being from his birth-form in order to obtain the life, and children, he wanted.
Sauron's talking about some messed up masochistic relationship with Morgoth, and crying when Adar recalls how beautiful he used to be. He's doing all kinds of fascinating line-crossing when it comes to gender, like he's just decided to conjure up your worst evil non-binary nightmare as he flirts with Mirdania, minces around in his pretty dress and hair-bow, acts like a clique-y mean girl when Celebrimbor calls him out in front of the other smiths, and then slaughters guards with expert swordsmanship and sorcery.
Meanwhile Galadriel is effortlessly switching from armor to fairytale princess dresses, expressing unbridled rage and endless compassion, being maternal to Theo and a mentor to the Numenorean guard as she tutors them in swordplay, and generally projecting a female character who is, per Morfydd, not raised to feel ashamed the way women are in our society.
This is queer Tolkien. It's messing with our culturally encoded understandings of the signs and signals of relationships, gender, family, and friendships. It's messing with our understanding of how we define the potential of individuals and relationships.
Am I confident that they're doing all of this consciously? No.
But am I any less delighted by it?
Also no.
It is so fun and I love it.
#trop#trop meta#even as a haladriel enjoyer#the thing i enjoy is the transgressive nature of that relationship#try to put it into a cishet romantic box and i will cease to like it immediately#i also have so many more thoughts about gender wrt disa and miriel and even arondir too#are the writers doing this on purpose?#are the actors?#I would really like to know#annatar#gender#galadriel#elrond#adar#sauron
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#rings of power#rings of power spoilers#the good place#elrond#halbrand#galadriel#gil galad#isildur#sauron#this popped into my head and i became immediately hysterical#i spent four hours on this#it shouldn't have taken me that long#at one point i realised i had been sitting so still my whole ass was numb#the entire evening i have been cackling at my laptop#when i finished i presented it to my flatmate like a powerpoint presentation#she seems genuinely worried about my mental wellbeing#anyway#tolkein#rop#lotr#ethics#moral philosophy#chidi anagonye#trop#trop spoilers#the rings of power
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So Elrond and Elros are six when the Third Kinslaying happens, right? Given that they're half-elves, they might be "younger" than a human six-year-old, more in-line with elven development. For children that young, memories are often patchy and foggy. I certainly don't remember much from the first six years of my life. Add childhood trauma, which can distort or suppress memories, and there's a pretty good argument that Elrond and Elros might not really remember Sirion, or their parents.
And that idea... really gets to me. There's so much to explore there in terms of grief, and guilt, and the desire to live up to the legacy of someone you never even knew. There's also an asymmetry there– E&E's parents remember them. Hell, Earendil might be able to look down on them in Middle-Earth while Vingilot is in the heavens. But Elrond can never look back.
#silmarillion#silm headcanons#elrond#elros#earendil#elwing#this is an idea I haven't sen too many people discuss#I already have too many WIPs but I might need to make a new one...#not even going to get into how that would effect Kidnap Fam dynamics but it would be a Lot
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someone made an absolutely hilarious elrond and durin tiktok edit to a twink and a redhead (the lyrics being name a more iconic duo than a twink and a redhead) and my favourite of the top liked comments was: this would send robert aramayo into anaphylactic shock
#robert aramayo#how are we meant to last two years until season three without going insane??#also i love how the comment just completely skipped aneurysm and said anaphylactic shock instead#it makes it somehow even funnier#elrond#durin#trop#the rings of power
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Tolkien, repeatedly and consistently: Whatever Denethor's flaws he was one of the most learned and wise Men in Gondor.
Fandom, inexplicably: Denethor hates Faramir because he reads books.
#gah shut up!#denethor ii#faramir#húrinionath#historian!denethor is actually his canon characterisation!#the scene with pippin's sword directly parallels elrond identifying glamdring and orcrist!#HE DOESN'T HATE FARAMIR BECAUSE HE'S BOOKISH#Please be like Denethor and Faramir and learn to read#this isn't even a film thing neither of film faramir or denethor are ever shown to be wise or to take any interest in lore or history
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If Adar had tried to flirt his way into defeating Sauron instead of besieging Eregion
Adar, looking at Celebrimbor: Your forge is grander and better equipped than any of Fëanor's have ever been. In see in you all of his greatness and talent but few of his flaws. And your smile is warmer than any fire and lights up any room-
Annatar, jaw twitching: Celebrimbor, he is clearly-
Celebrimbor, with literal anime heart eyes towards Adar, waving Annatar off: No no, please, let him speak...
(inspired by this post and reblog by @ivorybilledwoodpecker and @saraptor)
#galadriel elrond and gil-galad standing on the sidelines both relieved and horrified that this shit is working every. single. time.#sauron may be the Great Deceiver but Adar is the Greatest Flirt and that easily cancels out the deception#the stories will later say “no blood was shed that day” (except for sauron who spontaneously combusted in sheer fury)#i am still kinda sad we never had Brimby and Adar meet tbh can you tell?#(non serious question but what would their ship name even be? Adarimbor? Celebradar??)#incorrect quote#incorrect quotes#trop crack#trop#the rings of power#spoilers#(kinda?)#adar#adar trop#adar the rings of power#adar x celebrimbor#silverscars#celebrimbor#annatar#sauron#funny#humor#queue
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Y’know what would be hilarious and horrible in equal measure? Kidnap fam in Valinor, except all the childhood stories horrify the Valinor-Parents.
Like, Feanor is trying to bond with his shoplifted grandson and hears a “funny” story about Elrond & Elros running away, and hearing Maedhros’ thundering footsteps chasing after them.
The whole imagery of the story is terrifying to Feanor, who was raised lovingly in a peaceful environment himself and raised his sons in a relatively peaceful realm.
To be so small, and have to run so fast, only to be caught in the end. It’s a terrible image. Yet Elrond tells the story with the intonation of someone speaking of a beloved childhood fable. Maybe the lesson of this particular fable was that the children would always be caught if they ran. It doesn’t matter, because here sits Elrond, and here sits Feanor, and Feanor cannot change anything.
Similar events occur with the other Valinor-Parents.
#silmarillion#elrond#elrond peredhel#kidnap fam#feanor#its just a fun thought I had about outsider povs of kidnap fam#kidnap fam even when lovingly accepted by themselves horrify other people#the dynamics of kidnap fam are inherently twisted and sometimes that means something#maybe not to them but to outsiders#silm headcanons#silmarilllion#tag.words
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Elrond and Elros, SA 109, colourised.
#it's actually Robert Aramayo and his dad Mike#seriously though they look identical wtf#his mum's genes didn't even TRY#elrond#elrond peredhel#elrond rings of power#elrond rop#elros tar minyatur#elros#elrond and elros#kidnap fam#rings of power#rop#the rings of power
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Very Minor Spoiler for Episode 7 (S2) of Rings of Power
Thinking casually about Galadriel's declaration earlier this season that caring for that which is most fragile and most dear is the duty entrusted to all elves and how Celebrimbor's gentle care in noticing and greeting that little mouse is what allowed him to see past Sauron's deception. :)
#the rings of power#trop season 2#trop spoilers#celebrimbor#“hello mister mouse” what if I weep?#The way that caring for even the most fragile or insignificant of things is how you defeat darkness#the mouse is the message of the entire show#this whole season#galadriel was wrong when she asked elrond to put defeating sauron above all other goals: even her life#because abandoning your friends to peril or death in the pursuit of the destruction of evil is never the message#and we're going to see that play out with nori and the stranger the way we saw it play out with elrond and galadriel the way it played#out with miriel and elendil the way it played out with galadriel and celebrimbor the way it played out with new southlands girl and isildur#the way it played out with gil galad and elrond the way it played out with arondir and theo the way it played out with berek and isildur#the way it will play out with elrond and durin the same way it has always played out from sam and frodo to aragorn legolas and gimli#with merry and pippin or in standing by those in need like bilbo with thorin and company like#this is the story <3
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ROBERT ARAMAYO AS ELROND PEREDHEL | LORD OF THE RINGS: RINGS OF POWER SEASON 2
#if those shoulder pads were in some rpg game#i'd wear them even if they were level 2 and i was level 65#elrond#elrond peredhel#elrond rings of power#rings of power#rop#trop#rings of power season 2#rop season 2#rings of power s2#my post#the rings of power
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Elrond goes to Mandos to petition for the return of his family. Namo takes one look at him and just starts shoving whatever souls that Elrond could possibly care about at him.
#He doesn't want a second Beren and Luthien and he knows Celebrian already walks Valinor so he's panicking#Back home Maglor and Celebrian start laughing when people Elrond doesn't even know return with him#Maglor leans over to her and starts whispering about Beren and Luthien always traumatizing Ainur and Celebrian just can't hold in her laugh#lotr#lord of the rings#silmarillion#elrond#elrond peredhel#maglor#celebrian#beren and luthien
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