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aboxofcereales · 2 years ago
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I’m slowly working on a piece of paper about changes in Wyll’s character between early access and game release, but I don’t really know when I’m going to finish it, in the process I’m more and more fascinated by potential story of Wyll’s parentage and their own story. Although mostly this is purely headcanon, but may I suggest the following:
There are few things we learn about Wyll’s mother during the game.
After stumbling upon Arabella in Shadow-Cursed Lands, a following dialogue may happen: “You've talked about your father, but not your mother. Why's that?” “Because there's nothing to tell. She died when I was born. As a boy, my bond with father was too deep to miss the mother I never had. Now, well - I'd be lying if I said I'd never thought about my mother. What life would've been like if she'd lived.”
During romance scene in Act 3, Wyll says: “My mother always said the Wilden Oak's acorns held just a touch of wishing magic.”
There are two weapons, belonging to Ulder Ravengard, which describe some details about Wyll’s parents - Duke Ravengard's Longsword (can be found on Ravengard himself) and Ravengard's Scourger (can be found at High Security Vault 5 in The Counting House): Longsword: “Cradling his newborn son awkwardly, the Duke's face pulled into a rictus of misery. His love Francesca smiled at him, briefly, and died. He stared at her until the boy cried, and he told the boy it would be all right, though he himself did not believe it.” Scourger: “Duke Ravengard's father was the sort of man who works with his hands, and communicates in grunts. In his heart his son vowed to do better. But when Wyll was born, Ravengard felt a strange gravity that drew him away from his son.”
To sum up, what we learn in-game is that Wyll’s mother was named Francesca, she died giving birth to Wyll, Ulder loved her and their son, and tried his best to raise Wyll well.
Ulder’s parenting style deserve its own piece, but I think its obvious that he cares for Wyll deeply, though often failed to show it, acted to strictly, to righteously. Ultimately, it fall down on Ulder character, the “Murder in Baldur’s Gate” describes him as following: “Blaze (Major) Ulder Ravengard is the incarnation of militarism. The only beauty he appreciates is precision, and the only quality he values is utility. He believes that personal ornamentation other than military insignia is a waste. A meticulous man, he forgets nothing and forgives less. Ravengard has never married and has no interest in domestic matters. Someone might consider him handsome, if not for his constant scowl and many scars.
Blaze Ravengard is Marshal Abdel Adrian’s right hand man. He is both the second Highest ranking officer in the flaming fist and the warden of Wyrm’s rock. Ravengard’s soliders do not love him. They do respect his leadership, however, and pay for it with their obedience, which is exactly how Ravengard prefers things.
Naturally stolid and terse, Ravengard is slow to speak and make decisions in any arena expect the battlefield. Once he decides on a course of action, Ravengard is relentless in it’s pursuit. He believes the Flaming Fist is the Gate’s backbone and the key to the city’s strength.
With the Death of Marshal Abdel Adrian Ravengard has risen to the Rank of Marshal of the Flaming Fists.”
What’s interesting, its noted that Ulder Ravengard was never married, and the longsword description calls Francesca Ulder’s love, not bride or wife. This more then likely mean that Wyll was born out of wedlock, as Wyll is about 16-17 during  the death of Abdel Adrian.
When talking with Counseller Florrick, when Wyll is reveled to be Ravengard’s son, he says “The circumstance of my birth is no matter of pride for neither me nor my father.” This may refer to Wyll’s birth leading to his mother’s death or the fact that Wyll’s technically was born a bastard. In the latter case, Wyll’s mom might as well have been a worker at  Sharess' Caress, with whom Ulder could have had a one night stand, but its specifically stated that Francesca was loved by Ulder, and of what I read about the Grabd Duke he seems to be the man who would marry her out of duty and responsibility of getting her pregnant. So there should be another reason behind it.
 There’s this banter between Shadowheart and romanced-Wyll:
“Someone of your social stature, Wyll, are they typically allowed to pursue their heart whims as they like?” “I don't have to ask for permission if that's what you mean.” “Really? I'm surprised, I thought dowries, alliances and old blue blood feuds might have to be balanced against your desires.” “I'm my own man, Shadowheart, in this sense at least.”
Wyll’s a hopeless romantic, who wishes for a happily ever after with her one true love, and Ulder apparently never minded the potential social status, despite him and Wyll being a high-ranking member of society.
Of course, Ulder’s marital status and Wyll existing can be explained by the fact that Wyll being Grad Duke Ulder Ravengard’s  son was a part of the character rewrite. It was datamined before that originally was supposed to be a great-grandson of Duke Eltan, the founder of the Flaming Fist and a Grand Duke of the city of Baldur's Gate in the 1300s DR. And the bits of this storyline are still presented in the game: Fist Art Cullagh with his original writ of duty, signed by Eltan himself, pre-final part of Wyll quest taking place in the Iron Throne, where Eltan nearly assassinated.
Currently, House Eltan, the descendants of Duke Eltan, is one of the noble patriar families. The Forgotten Realms wiki states that: “The family held partial financial ownership of the Flaming Fist mercenary company. At one point however, they were forced to sell their interest to help pay significant debts they had incurred.”. Which I believe corelates with what EA!Wyll spoke of his father (the man saw any shining bauble he liked and took it, and my hand were ever so stinky or smt along those line).
So, what if Wyll is still Elatn’s great-grandson through hid mother? What if somewhere along 1460s DR Francesca Eltan, a granddaughter of a once Grand Duke of the city and a member of  patriar family, met Ulder Ravengard, a son of a poor blacksmith and a mercenary of The Flaming Fist, steadily ascending through its ranks? What if Franceesca taught the stern and disciplined Ulder to dance, read to him her favorite stories and poems under the Wilden Oak, made him on other things then duty and order? What is if their time together resulted in Francesca getting pregnant with Wyll? What her family did not approve of the union due to Ulder being merely a mercenary, who hailed from the Lower City, or they wished to marry her off to someone who could aid with the family’s financial problems? What if Francesca ran away, hoping that the birth of a grandchild could convince her family to attend their wedding afterwards? What if Wyll’s love of dancing and dreaming came from the mother he never knew?
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thebrainrotsreal · 3 months ago
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Was pondering how Mark’s rigid ass mask/lens is prob a Budget Thing (since squishy, bendy lens are pretty much a mandate for all hero animated series, like JL, BTAS, TNBA, Spider-Man, etc), and then I was slapped with a vision of Mark in a more JL/BTAS-ish style and I had to see it through. I am a genius btw.
#i had MANY thoughts while drawing my brain melted while posting so if ya have questions send 'em / ask 'em#but rapid fire: leans more into nightwing's look b/c bro's name is legit grayson + moves away from his father's sidekick/protege +#and legit has a blue and black outfit. that is soooo winking at robin (dick grayson specifically)#mark has a more casual / athletic fit and tried to keep his usual kicked puppy expression / mood#which then contrasts his more emotional (hero) side he acts upon when he's suited up as ANOTHER wink to the whole dual persona#mark does it unintentionally as he's eager to prove himself as invincible and thus more emotional/confidential/eager + feels lackluster#as just mark grayson.#but it's such a comic book trope it's interesting el show ignores the potential stakes for that + prob cause they dont focus on#villains#mark has debbie's cheek bones + pearls both so he skip the whole copy paste design tactic cartoons annoyingly use + wink at batman w/ pearl#nolan wears pink and debbie wears green b/c they have conflicting views on raising Mark but (used to?) stand on a somewhat#united front by having same collared shirt. but mark leans more on debbie's stuff visually w/ cooler colors + white shirt underneath#mark keeps his cape as another wink/nod at robins (tim drake TNBS specifically) which mimics his Dad + kid-like eagerness for hero stuff#which he gets rid off when he goes blue/black suit arc (cough cough nightwing looking ass) so just leaned MORE into it#mark has a heart on his chest because he's TRYING to do what he think he's best + emotional asf#lens/goggles are diff to keep the audiences' eye back at HIS eyes + look more ominous and predatory which the black/blue combo#already COULD do in canon but in show its just pallete swapped which ruins the more ominious look it probably intended#and doesnt really scream “OH NO! THERE'S NO GOLD! WHICH could be a marker of mark's joy vanishing!!!”#but i hope it does now but ALSO having design changes#the brainrotsreal's art tag ✧˖°:*♡#invincible rotating in my mind#mark grayson#invincible fanart#invincible#fanart#digital art#procreate art#i wish the style leaned more this way since it is messing with or TRYING to mess with some superhero tropes before it does its own thing#just straight up use nostalgia bait while it has his JL knock off#artists on tumblr
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devils-yui · 4 months ago
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Rewatching TFA, for the hundredth time in a row, and I've got to say. I used to think Sari was, kind of annoying, during my first initial watch and sometimes. The things she does makes me go wide-eyed and gripping at the screen going, "WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?"
But then now, as I'm rewatching it hundreds of times over. I have to physically remind myself that she is a child.
And not only that, but she was a child that was BARELY raised properly. She didn't have other children to socialize around, she had a robot teacher, a robot dog companion, and her occasionally in her life father who was busy manufacturing robots, entertaining the ideas of tours and etcetera.
So maybe, yes. I can definitely understand why she does rash things, and act the way she does. I understand why she's seen as a social outcast amongst other groups of kids (like in the show, ON HER BIRTHDAY).
And I'm not as mad as her, as anybody should be for a child who was raised/taught the wrong things or having not been taught at all.
However...
THIS GUY.
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IS A WHOLE 'NOTHER CASE.
I JUST WANNA-
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barbrububble · 2 months ago
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hmm so they changed it from Erik proudly saying that Istvan killed his parents in kcd1 to him calling Henry a liar for saying the same thing in kcd2? The first option was a little strange to admit to your enemies but I liked it more, Erik not knowing feels a bit cliche
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shitpostingkats · 4 months ago
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Every new thing I learn about the Sahdmahdi family has me wanting to chew drywall
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sonknuxadow · 4 months ago
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the two characters i feel most strongly about in terms of "they would NOT have kids when theyre older" are sonic and rouge but not really in the same way . like with sonic i really dont think he'd have kids but im able to give a bit more leeway with him because with sonic the part that i dont agree with is him actively wanting kids and/or a partner and settling down and being all domestic about it if he does end up with either of those things. so there are probably some highly specific potential scenarios of adult sonic being a dad that id be fine with even if it's still not something i can really see happening
with rouge on the other hand its because there is not a single motherly bone in that girls body she's literally stated onscreen in a game that she never wants to be a mom. every time someone portrays her as a mom or motherly figure it's physically hurting her . SAD !
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fleurbleedinghearts · 17 days ago
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willingly sleeping with the enemy... but choosing death over being taken by them
Laodice you were an icon
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tonguetiedraven · 3 months ago
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Curious about your perspective of this, because I think people makes different assumptions. 
Even though Amaimon and Iblis, and I think even Mephisto, have called themselves related to Rin to his face in some way or another, do you think Rin still doesn’t know that he’s technically related to them? 
He witnessed the past, and the Demon Kings calling Satan “father”, but I still don’t think he gets it. I don’t even know if Rin realizes they, the Demon Kings, are related as siblings to each other. 
To be fair, Rin gets most of these “introductions” when in really volatile situations. Iblis, I think, is the most recent example, and Rin seems to kind of not be able to pay attention to what she says because she took Yukio and Rin’s priority is getting him back.
If it ever does sink in to Rin that he and Yukio are technically related to the Demon Kings as well, how do you think he would handle it? Do you possibly see a dynamic change? I think Rin could potentially get along with individual Demon Kings better than the group entirely (I think what side they are in the war also plays a role).
In chapter 9 Rin meets Amaimon who says he's "Kinda like your big brother." Rin seems to not get this at all, and that's fair because Amaimon has Kurikara and that has Rin's attention. That and Amaimon being a demon.
Chapter 39 Rin goes to dinner with Mephisto. The chat reveals who Mephisto is (Samael, King of Time and Space) and has Amaimon call him 'bro'.
Rin gives no indication that he realizes he's related to Mephisto at all, nor has he given any indication thus far that he's related Amaimon, so neither of those revelations really seem to go anywhere.
Chapter 49 Mephisto calls Lucifer 'brother', but Rin already hasn't shown any indication he considers himself related to Mephisto, so hearing that wouldn't make him realize he's also related.
Chapter 129 has the Iblis confrontation. She flat out says he's their youngest sibling and Rin's response is "What're you talking about!" Now that could be in relation to Rin being almost as cute as Egyn, but it reads more like an overall everything she's saying doesn't make sense. Likely because she took Yukio and Rin knows he's not in a spot to be strong enough to take them all on at that point.
Personally, I think if he were to sit down and think about it, he'd understand they're related in the way he's kind of related to all demons, but I don't think he considers any of them siblings. Only Yukio, at least at this point. He 'gets' that they're related, but doesn't think about it or them in general outside of direct confrontations, and then he's thinking more about something else in the interactions.
Having said that, I think we're already going to see a dynamic change going forward, whether he really gets that they're siblings or not. Having had his realization and mercy with Satan, I think Rin's going to continue to try and meet in the middle with peace and potential healing/rest before he straight out fights, but I think that very much depends on Yukio, the person he clearly considers his family, to not be killed.
Largely, he just hasn't had much interaction with them. He interacts with Mephisto the most and has a good enough relationship with him. Amaimon he's shown himself able to work with, and Beelzebub he's probably going to get along with great once he figures out Beelzebub likes barbecue. I don't see a problem with Azazel, but we also haven't seen him do anything. We've just seen what he helped accomplish.
Iblis, Egyn, Astaroth, Azazel, and Lucifer he's had little chance to do anything with but watch. We can't really say how he interacts with them to know if it'll change or not. He doesn't tend to start with fighting with any of them, and I think that much will continue to be true at least.
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fistfuloflightning · 8 months ago
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damn it @limitbreaker23 you KNOW what happens when you throw rairpairs at me 😠… 🤭
ngl I’ve never even considered Lan Wangji/Mianmian together (hardcore zhancheng shipper here) but I can definitely see them working really well! And their babies would be the prettiest 🥰
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shorthaltsjester · 10 months ago
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rewatching c3ep48 for silly reasons and forgot it was also the episode with relvin and matt mercer please tell me everything about that man. there are so many interesting body language choices and facial expressions that are like. not in conflict with but definitely complexify the Gruff Man aura and . i would like to know every thought he’s ever had actually .
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jeanmoreaue · 1 year ago
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I agree!! *an incoherent rant incoming* Jean imo def moved on from Kevin (in a romantic way; i think he’s not moved on from the whole ‘Kevin left me’ thing ofc but I think he obviously knows and accepts that he and Kevin won’t ever happen lol). And that scene with Renee was obviously a closure/farewell and they’ve moved on to being friends now (also imo while i like their dynamic i feel like they’d never work bc of the whole victim saviour complex, that’d be really uncomfortable and hard to overcome). Jeremy seems like he’s able to handle Jean’s crazy baggage without placating him too much or pushing him too hard. He definitely needs to work on his own shit first (i feel like the way he went all in on helping Jean is kind of giving ‘I am avoiding my problems by getting too involved in others’ problems’) but I think Jean will be the perfect person to help him with that! As you said he’s super perceptive and honestly very empathetic even if he doesn’t show it in the most obvious way. Jeremy would probably really appreciate Jean’s brutally honest approach lol. They’re lowkey perfect for each other ☹️ TSC2 can’t come soon enough
hardcore agree on every single point you made!! i feel exactly the same about Jean and Renee, as much as their dynamic is sweet, i think it would be really difficult to overcome Jean feeling indebted to her (whereas Jean and Jeremy are both growing together) + ya i think Jean has very complicated feelings toward Kevin but i don’t think he’s actively yearning over Kevin anymore
and exactlyy i definitely imagine Jean quietly picking up on whatever Jeremy’s going through and expressing concern only for Jeremy to try and pull a “my problems aren’t that bad and therefore don’t matter” which i don’t see Jean accepting. especially since Jean has an ‘older brother who cares more about other people’s well-being more than his own well-being’ vibe (underneath his slightly prickly attitude lol) i think Jeremy and Jean are really good for each other, Kevin subconsciously knew what he was doing by having Jean transfer to USC 🤨
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worstloki · 6 months ago
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Hela as Loki's mother is fine but I want a redo of the of the Jotunheim lore where it was Hela that took out Odin's eye
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an-absolute-nightmare · 6 months ago
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from the bottom of my heart i am so, so tired of my mother, she's not a terrible person but my patience is so thin i just feel like doing something drastic
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unfotp · 1 year ago
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i get it like yeah you're presenting facts and logic to figuring out of Jiang fengmian was in love with Cangse Sanren but the main problem here isn't the contradictory rumours. it's the man, the trashcan husband himself who pseudo adopts her orphan child and then REFUSES TO ELABORATE FURTHER
he has Caused those rumors by Acting as if he is or at least was in love with Cangse Sanren. I'm not saying whether that's a bad thing or love is unpredictable and cannot be controlled. But this man had a wife and two kids with her. it was his duty not only as a sect leader but also and a human being who knows what little gossip can lead to to shut down that nonsense!
he refused to fully integrate wwx into th family in memory of his parents and then when his wife accused him of infidelity said fucking NOTHING
sure there's no canonical text that explicitly stated the guy was in love with Cangse Sanren but does a sane man do this?? treat his own kid lesser than the one he picked off the street?
I know wwx deserved love and affection but like the blatant favouritism was not the way. also he knew?? his wife was abusing him?? and did next to nothing to dispel her worries or Stop it??? he didn't really care about wwx
Wei Wuician was just the memory of his dead friends you know what I'll even argue the case he was in love with Cangse Sanren's boytoy and wanted so badly a threesome
alas he got married to Yu Ziyuan and became sect leader instead of the filled hole he clearly wanted
his dead friends shaped hole
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britneyshakespeare · 3 months ago
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Me over dinner with my friends at Chili's: What do you guys think of the concept of purgatory?
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starscelly · 2 years ago
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