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I started a project where I redraw all of my Trojan royal family designs, but I spent too long on it and now I just wanna restart the whole thing. But! I didn't want to throw away the ones I have finished, so here's the first nine, with a promise that soon I will have all 21 redone for y'all's viewing pleasure.
#apollart#the iliad#sunny speaks#greek mythology#priam#hecuba#Iliona#hector of troy#aristodeme#polites of troy#laodice#paris of troy#deiphobus
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Second poll for my book. I want to get a couple of points of views of multiple women on each side of the conflict.
#greek mythology#the iliad#cassandra greek mythology#penthesilea#andromache of troy#chryseis#hecuba#briseis#laodice#oenone#polyxena
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Hecuba!!!! And Her first Babies!
#hecuba queen of troy#hektor of troy#hector of troy#deiphobus#deiphobus of troy#helenus of troy#heleus#kassandra of troy#cassandra of troy#laodice#laodice of troy#illiona#illiona of troy#tagamemnon#classics#ancient greek mythology#trojan heroes#pre trojan war#classicstober22
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omg I finally figured out why the mithridatic wars weren't just some random jockeying between tiny Turkish kingdoms
you have laodice, daughter of mithridates v of pontus, who weds ariarthes of cappadocia, who then gets couped by nicomedes of bithynia and laodice marries him and nicomedes' son by another mother, nicomedes (of bithynia) becomes the enemy of the son of mithirdates v of pontus, mithridates vi (of pontus).
#I am simplifying this DRAMATICALLY. you also have ariartheses sons of laodice who make war against their uncle mithridates who is also#trying to get rid of them.#and this is just to explain why nicomedes of bithynia ended up in position to invade the areas near western pontus paphlagonia#(that phrasing of it is Pontic propaganda)#fun fact: nicomedes just doesn't fucking matter during the mithridatic wars beyond the casus belli.
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realizing that priam having so many kids has given them attention issues. most, if not all of them, are motivated by some kind of need to be seen or heard.
alexandros - used to being an only kid, is spoiled with attention even after his joining the half-crowns due to being a novelty ... and he suffers for it! feels like he's always performing and/or that nobody gets him. super lonely, Just Wants A Friend.
deiphobos - used to being the overlooked kid. mama's boy all the way. also has daddy issues. wants to prove himself to priam, prove he's worthy of the respect hektor gets, or at least the special treatment/spoiling alexandros gets.
helenos - mostly happy to be left alone by his parents. eventually realizes he needs somebody to consider him outside of his duties as a prophet/strategist (idk yet) once in awhile, but he doesn't realize this consciously enough to actually ask for it. he goes into some kind of spiral that would be self-destructive if he were any braver. he defects to the achaians and cries himself to sleep.
kassandra - wishes people would just fucking listen to her, she's right, she's right, she's been proven right over and over, helenos'll tell you she's right but nobody sees him either so what even the fuck.
#gotta think through hektor iliona laodice too#laodice probably has some kind of 'beautiful but feels misunderstood' thing going on too idk#iliona and hektor both suffer from eldest-sibling parentification#hektor is the only one of them anywhere close to coping with this#and it's only bc of andromache#talk tag#the paris project#the half-crown royals#half-crown alexandros#half-crown deiphobos#half-crown helenos#half-crown kassandra#riverpoint writing
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I really should get back to writing that story about Helen and Hector because I was on absolute fire when writing the flashbacks to Hector and Andromache's wedding even if I have to say so myself
#like fr. i was enlightened with how they med + married and how hector's sisters reacted#pretty interesting take on deiphobous too lol#the take on helen is... not as great. not when she's in troy. but her relationship to her siblings + menelaus + electra/orestes/hermione#later... hmm... also leda... maybe i was onto something fr fr#but the funniest part was writing about the trojans. spoiled brat laodice good for nothing paris sharp tongued creusa with malewice aeneas..#blabla#my writing
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ok but lets add the sisterhood too…
thinking about brotherhood in greek mythology……
#clytemnestra and helen (and timandra)#electra and iphigenia and chrysothemis#cassandra creusa laodice iliona and polyxena#erigone and helen II#hera demeter and hestia#leto and asteria#medusa stheno and euryale#semele agave and ino#niobe’s daughters#amphitrite thetis and the nereids#the oceanids#hypermestra and her 49 sisters#the muses. the pleiades. the furies. the fates#sisterhood is etched everywhere
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I'm very sensitive to minor characters in stories, I'm always mad when the author and readers treat them like random people who died or just another casualty, when no, those people had lives and dreams and hopes and I want to know them.
Like, in Epic, there's 600 Ithacans. We only know five. (Polites, Eurylochus, Elpenor, Perimedes and Odysseus himself.), in the Odyssey, we know of 3 others (Antiphus, Eurylus & Amphidamas.), they were 600, I WANT TO KNOW ALL OF THEM. I want to know if they were married, if they longed for their wives as much as Odysseus did, if they also had children they never met but wanted to, or sisters they wanted to see again, or mothers they longed to feel the embrace of. We only ever briefly know Eurylochus was married to Ctimene, but what else? And the trojan women? We know of the important ones, (Briseis, Andromache, Creusa, Hecuba, Laodice, Cassandra, Polyxena, etc..) but there must have been tons of women suffering there, who were they before the war? Did they have fathers, brothers, sons who died? Or were they enslaved with their mothers, sisters and daughters? Do they ever get to feel happy again? I hate in when a book goes: "The poets won't sing of this person" or "The Poets don't care about this person" LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER, I'M THE POET, I'LL SING, I CARE. LET ME EAT UP EVERY SINGLE STORY EVER. All to say I'm considering writting fanfics about either Odysseus' crewmen or the trojen women.
Would y'all read that?
#epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey#odyssey#greek myth#tagamemnon#the iliad#iliad#fanfic#ctimene#eurylochus#elpenor#perimedes#polites#fanfiction#plot twist Im the poet
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Painted Scylla Statues Found in Turkey
Excavations in ancient Laodicea have revealed a rare collection of painted Scylla statues.
Laodicea was an Ancient Greek city on the river Lycus, located in the present-day Denizli Province, Turkey.
The city was founded between 261-253 BC by Antiochus II Theos, king of the Seleucid Empire, in honour of his wife Laodice. Over the next century, Laodicea emerged as a major trading centre and was one of the most important commercial cities of Asia Minor.
After the Battle of Magnesia during the Roman–Seleucid War (192–188 BC), control of large parts of western Asia Minor, including Laodicea, was transferred to the Kingdom of Pergamon. However, the entire Kingdom of Pergamon would eventually be annexed by the expanding Roman Republic in 129 BC.
The many surviving buildings of Laodicea include the stadium, bathhouses, temples, a gymnasium, two theatres, and the bouleuterion (Senate House).
Recent excavations led by Prof. Dr. Celal Şimşek from Pamukkale University have revealed a rare collection of painted Scylla statues during restoration works of the stage building in the Western Theatre.
In Greek mythology, Scylla is a man-eating monster who lives on one side of a narrow strait, opposite her counterpart, the sea-swallowing monster Charybdis. The two sides of the strait are so close (within an arrow’s range), that sailors trying to avoid Charybdis’s whirlpools would dangerously come into range of Scylla.
Scylla is first mentioned in Homer’s Odyssey, where Odysseus and his crew encounter both Scylla and Charybdis during their voyage back to Ithica following the conclusion of the Trojan War.
In a press statement by Nuri Ersoy, Minister of Culture and Tourism: “These extraordinary sculptures are quite important in terms of being rare works that reflect the baroque style of the Hellenistic Period and have survived to the present day with their original paints.”
The archaeologists suggest that the sculptures were made by sculptors in Rhodes during the early 2nd century BC and are the oldest known examples from antiquity.
#Painted Scylla Statues Found in Turkey#ancient Laodicea#ancient greek city#sculptures#ancient sculptures#ancient artifacts#archeology#archeolgst#history#history news#ancient history#ancient culture#ancient civilizations#greek history#roman history#roman empire#greek art#ancient art#art history
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Agamemnon (Person)
Agamemnon was the legendary king of Mycenae and leader of the Greek army in the Trojan War of Homer's Illiad. Agamemnon is a great warrior but also a selfish ruler who famously upset his invincible champion Achilles, a feud that prolonged the war and suffering of his men.
Agamemnon is a hero from Greek mythology but there are no historical records of a Mycenaean king of that name. The Greek city was a prosperous one in the Bronze Age, and there perhaps was a real, albeit much shorter, Greek-led attack on Troy. Both these propositions are supported by archaeological evidence. Unfortunately, though, the famous gold mask found in a shaft grave at Mycenae and widely known as the 'Mask of Agamemnon' is dated up to 400 years before any possible Agamemnon candidate that fits a chronology of the Trojan War.
Agamemnon's Family
Agamemnon was the son of Atreus, or perhaps grandson, in which case his father was Pleisthenes. His mother was Aerope, from Crete which provided a handy link between the Mycenaean civilization of the Greek Peloponnese and the earlier Minoan civilization of Bronze Age Crete. He was married to Clytemnestra with whom he had three daughters. In one version these are Chrysothemis, Laodice and Iphianassa while in other, later versions they are Chrysothemis, Electra and Iphigeneia. Agamemnon was the brother of Menelaos, king of Sparta.
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Honestly that’s so much better than the name I came up with while trying to write a Nova au fic.
In the Novaverse, her full name is Gideonastasia Navagraha. She was originally given the name Gideon Nav, but when she was officially adopted, both her names were expanded to reflect her station.
Navagraha is a term from Vedic astrology, referring to the nine celestial bodies (not planets). It doesn't share an arithmonym with either of her parents to reflect her outsider status. This is even further reinforced by the fact that it's four syllables, while most Reverand Family second names are 5 or 7 syllables. It's a name that says, "You are very special and important, but we could still replace you if a better option came around."
Gideonastasia is one of those double-barreled names. The suffix, referencing founder Anastasia, is staking claim on her as a member of the Ninth. She absolutely hates it and has been known to lock herself in her room for a week if someone uses her full name instead of just Gideon.
#it was Acamena Nonavarius btw#Acamena was just Pelleamena and Acamas (the son of Theseus who fell in love with Priam’s daughter Laodice) squished together#Nonavarius was a mix of Nonagesimus Novenarius and Noniasvianus#gideon nav#gideonastasia navagraha#gideon navagraha#harrow nova#harrow nova au#nova au#the locked tomb
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remember the scene in the grass crown where laodice (queen of pontus) tries to poison mithridates vi (king of pontus, famously immunised himself to all known poisons) at a banquet and he takes a sip and like. identifies And Criticises her choice of poison. for poisoning him. and then gets her to drink the rest of it :/ truly a book that you can read
#mithridates vi was such a character why did colleen speedrun his death in a letter from another character :(((#masters of rome#beeps
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Their underside of hindwings look like a melted butter and caramel.
Pallas's fritillary (Argynnis laodice)
#photographers on tumblr#my photography#original photographers#art#lensblr#photography#insect photography#wildlife photography#macro photography#nature photography#nature#naturecore#insect#nymphalidae#butterfly#butterflies#bugblr#entomology#melted#butter#caramel#so precious#june 10 2024#noai#no ai#no to generative ai
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quick personal tag guide for the half-crown royals:
whole project title: #the half-crown royals and #thcr
character tags: half-crown for the center five, thcr for other characters. for now.
#half-crown alexandros (the main character. probably)
#half-crown hektor
#half-crown deiphobos
#half-crown kassandra
#half-crown helenos
#thcr priam
#thcr hecuba
#thcr iliona
#thcr laodice
#thcr hellen
#thcr aphrodite
#thcr apollo
etc, etc
#i say alexandros is the mc but i think its gonna be about all five of them#if not seven including laodice and iliona#i might do that i haven't decided#its not that they're not important its just that i havent managed to latch onto them yet#iliona's coming tho. its coming. she's the eldest daughter and has problems i will build her i'm excited#talk tag#riverpoint writing#the half-crown royals#thcr
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Gurl I love your warrior!Penelope au but the premise is kind of a stretch and you know it. Every Greek man maimed but not dead and sent back? I have a suggestion for you that will neatly explain everything (with some delicious bonuses in the gift horse’s mouth, including a mentor for Helen and archer!Cassandra)
After the first year of fighting, Menelaus and Priam meet outside the city walls to discuss a truce. Naturally, it fails, however… Paris' sister Laodice, who had previously taken Theseus’ son as a lover, found the Greek extremely handsome. She asks Aphrodite to make him her husband, or at least trick him into lying with her for one night.
Aphrodite gives her a magic armband that makes her appear as Helen. Unfortunately, Menelaus sees through the ruse a la Ody and the siren. Aphrodite, insulted, commands Paris and Hector to take him prisoner.
Amid the distraction, Helen seizes her chance and makes a daring escape to the Greek camp, aided (without her knowledge) by Athena - only to discover that her husband was taken instead and unwillingly married to Laodice by a priestess of Aphrodite.
Zeus, fed up with Aphrodite’s antics, decrees that since the war was started by goddesses, it shall be waged henceforth by women only.
But wait, Ares was on the Trojan side, why is he helping Penelope? One of the Trojans attempted to violate an Amazon. Since messing with Ares’ daughters is a proven way to trigger him, he switches promptly to the Greek side, explaining why he becomes her mentor.
Bonus: Athena becomes Helen's mentor. They bond over being daughters of Zeus who are fed up with Aphrodite.
Bonus 2: Throw in the Trojan women as well! Cassandra escapes Apollo's punishment by abandoning her oracle and becoming a huntress of Artemis. The goddess trains her to replace Paris as the ace archer of Troy.
WOW! I am so impressed with all the details you've thought out and how you managed to tie everything together! Thank you so much for sharing this with me!
While I can not promise to incorporate these details right away for the war!pen au, they will definitely come in handy when I get around to writing the heroine iliad au (name pending, if you guys like it or have any suggestions I'm all ears)! Thank you so much! Your ideas have inspired and helped me out so much in planning the iliad rewrite! I will probably tweak a detail or two, or perhaps add to them is the better phrase, for the sake of what I have in mind:
For example, I have an idea for a story beat/theme that would need to have Cassandra keeping her visions in order to act as a foil to Clytemnestra and her unhealthy desire for revenge Or still giving Paris and Hector primary roles since Achilles and Patroclus are still contributing to the war
But nonetheless, I am still so grateful! I know I keep saying it, but thank you so much for sharing your beautiful ideas with me <3
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Standing on the Shoulders of Giants
This is a project of mine i recently started with the premise that figures from the Trojan War are reincarnated into the modern world. There is no surviving record of the Trojan War, in this universe. Each night they get a new day of memories in their dreams, and wake up and have to deal with having the memories of living through times of war and violence in the modern world.
Also, there's a shit-ton of petty past-life internet drama. Because of course there is.
I plan on writing from a few characters' perspectives, but the current story is from the perspective of Turnus (from the Aeneid) and is about his friendship with some of the Trojans and eventually his relationship to Aeneas. I hope to have another story with Hector and Achilles as dual protaganists and then also something with Helenus.
As it stands, I'll include a list of all the characters I've included so far in a read more- but I'm always adding more so keep that in mind.
Reuben | Turnus - A friend of Dorian | Polydoros, he's trying to keep his past life separate from his current life but both lives keep getting in the way of that.
Dorian | Polydoros - Childhood best friend of Reuben | Turnus, but doesn't like to go by Dorian, since he prefers his previous life to his current life.
Abra(ham) | Aeneas - Went to study history at a small college. Abra doesn't like who Aeneas becomes.
Catherine | Medesicaste - A web developer who created the Ilium forums after meeting Ken | Helenus and Roy | Troilus playing video games.
Ken | Helenus - Someone who feels very strongly about keeping past life and current life emotions separate, but struggles with this deeply.
Roy | Troilus - I don't know much about him but he was into mlp as a kid and never got out of it. Love this kid.
Cassandra - She's named Cassandra in both lifetimes and rubs it in everyone's face that she was right all the time.
Miguel | Hector - He's so happy to be here but he gets back together with Mackenzie | Andromache in this lifetime and all in all struggles to keep down the anger in his heart he has for everything that happened in the war.
Mackenzie | Andromache - She got found by Polydoros on a weaving forum talking about building her own historically accurate loom. I don't know much about her yet in all honesty.
William (Billy) | Achilles - He absolutely does not understand the boundary between this life and his past life. Harasses Miguel at every opportunity and tries to "pick up where he left off" with Emmet | Patroclus Emmet | Patroclus - I don't know much about him yet but he exists!
Dominic | Odysseus - Software engineer who sold off a dot-com boom business and is now uber-rich, but only in non-liquid assets. He constantly gets stranded places with no cash. Created an email mailing list to keep all of the Achaeans in contact.
Some other Achaeans are Liam | Menelaus ; both Ajaxes are now Alexes, Madison | Diomedes, and Patrick | Palamedes.
Some other Trojans are Amanda | Polyxena, Aurora | Iliona, Louisa | Laodice, Derek | Paris, Paul | Palindurus, Cody | Achates, Nathan | Ascanius
I'll update this post as the story develops!
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