#thersites

[nnay-naee]

"Ugh classics are so boring" Classics:

Iliad, book II, vv. 257-264

[katerinaaqu]

Shoutout to Diomedes fans with a small reminder that Diomedes stood his ground against Achilles on full rage mode when he saw him beating Thersites to death (and he was the only one who dared to)

[scarlet-sam-chaos]

OKAY ODYSSEUS CALM DOWN-

HE CALLED HIMSELF 'THE FATHER OF TELEMACHUS' BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE I CANNOT-

[incorrecthomer]

Odysseus: [to the Achaeans, who are gathered around a coffee maker] So... who broke it? [Nobody says a word] I'm not mad. I just want to know. Antilochus: I did. I broke- Odysseus: No, no you didn't. Agamemnon? Agamemnon: Don't look at me. Look at Achilles. Achilles: What? I didn't break it. Agamemnon: Huh. That's weird. How'd you even know it was broken? Achilles: Because it's sitting right in front of us and it's broken. Agamemnon: [leans in on him] Suspicious. Nestor: If it matters - probably not - but Diomedes was the last one to use it. Diomedes: Liar! I don't even drink that crap! Nestor: Oh, really? Then what were you doing by the coffee cart earlier? Diomedes: I use the wooden stirrers to push back my cuticles; everyone knows that, Nestor! Antilochus: Ok, ok! Let’s not fight! I broke it, let me pay for it, Ody! Odysseus: No! Who broke it??! Achilles: [looks at Thersites, then at Odysseus] Odysseus... Thersites is been awfully quiet. Thersites: REALLY?? Achilles: Yeah! Really. Thersites: Oh, my gods!  [everyone starts arguing at one another except Odysseus] Odysseus: [to the camera] I broke it. It burned my hand, so I punched it. I predict ten minutes from now they'll be at each other's throats with war paint on their faces and a pig head on a stick. Odysseus: [turns to look at the Achaeans as they continue to argue, then looks back] Good. It was getting a little chummy around here.

[kneeslappingmosquitoes]

#justice for thersites

that bitch just wanted to eat the rich and have some recognition he spoke the TRUTH FUCK AGAMEMNON

[deadbaguette]

Ik it is pretty fucked up of Achilles to kill Thersites but at the same time just a little funny because honestly man, what were you thinking when mocking/berating him for crying over a beautiful woman’s death😭

Me personally, I would also break down into tears if I discovered I slew a gorgeous woman

[yourcurrentany]

Thinking about that time when I didn't know Thersites existed and when I read an extract where he appeared with Achilles and Patroclus got confused bc I thought "Why are Achi and Pat talking with Tiresias? Wasn't he dead??"

(in the moment I thought Thersites was another way of saying Tiresias 😭)

[generouskittentidalwave]

Can we talk about Odysseus's "these hands are rated E for everyone" unspoken rule? When it all really came down to it, he didn't really care all that much about other people's gender or status in the sense that if you pissed him off, regardless of who you are, he would beat the shit out of you.

And you could go about that and say he respected everyone equally as well, which isn't wrong as if I remember correctly the way he ran Ithaca is that regardless of status you never disrespect a guest and you never disrespect your host. The rules were basically just don't be an ass, and Odysseus gets very pissed off when that rule is broken.

But I am not refering to that, I mean it in the sense that he brutally beat the shit out of everyone equally if they pissed him off.

Palamedes? He framed him and got him stoned to death. Thersites? Beat the shit out of him as a form of public humiliation and punishment. Both on completely different status levels, both got fucked over by him for pissing him off.

The suitors? Odysseus killed all of them except two in a very brutal fashion, then proceeded to hunt down and try to kill their fathers. The maids that helped the suitors? He chose to hang them to death for their actions instead of brutally killing them the way he did with the suitors. They both pissed him off so he killed them both.

Not saying the stuff he did was a good way of going about the situation, regardless if they were being assholes or not, but I just find it so fucking funny that he doesn't care who a person is, if they upset him they are already writing up their own tombstone.

[adriles]

Here goes the dull-witted thersites of calydon, being vulgar and obscene around the danaan encampment again. If you see him in the assembly being rude, please beat him. Please punish the nasty man if you see him

[owls-den]

[katerinaaqu]

Shoutout to Diomedes fans; Diomedes and Thersites (yeah that unpleasant fellow who got beaten up by Odysseus in Iliad) were cousins

His grandfather Oeneus and Thersites's father Agrius were brothers. Thersites and his five brothers apparently overthrew Oeneus and placed their father Agrius to the throne. They also imprisoned and tormented Oeneus (Apollodorous, Library). Diomedes arrived in secret from Argos and not only did he restored his grandfather but also killed all the brothers of Thersites except for himself and Onchestus. The brothers fled from Diomedes's wrath in Peloponese. Later they killed Oenus in Peloponese in an ambush. It seems that Diomedes does not chase them any further but takes the dead body for burial. Instead he establishes the city Oenoe in his grandfather's name.

So yeah...Diomedes has absolutely no reason to like Thersites despite that he is family and yet he faced the wrath of Achilles to defend his honor after death. Even if it was just a family tribute...what a guy!

[scarlet-sam-chaos]

pretty privilege existed even back then huh?

[incorrecthomer]

Patroclus: why is Thersites crying, and why is Odysseus smiling like that Diomedes: Thersites said that the only fruit that can make your cry are onions Patroclus:…and? Diomedes: Odysseus threw a watermelon at him

[dogshit-enchantment]

Harvestella character analysis playlist:

‼️MAJOR GAME SPOILERS‼️

Ein - Out of Mana (Brand New) "I'm a ghost | I can't say I know that I'm even here | Or is this some eternal test | Hold me close | I'll never know if it's more or less | No reset"

Ein, but also, "you": The One Who Whispers To Them. Ein is a vessel, but also their own being. They are forced to confront impossible decision after impossible decision and decide how to create a future from it. No chance to redo, they only get one true shot to get things right.

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Aria - Personal Jesus (Mindless Self Indulgence cover) "Feeling unknown | And you're all alone | Flesh and bone | By the telephone | Pick up the receiver | Make you a believer"

Aria is what I would consider the self-imposed martyr of the group. She takes on every responsibility as if it's her own and backs herself into a corner over it. Wants nothing more than to be able to rely on others but feels she can't. Ends up putting her faith in Ein to make the decision that she ultimately can't follow through with. She has no faith, but must.

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Asyl - Two Letters (Bayside) "And it takes a lot to shake me and my body breaks to figure out |How to leave the past behind when it's around all of the time | And I don't know what I should call you"

The phrase "how to leave the past behind" sums up Asyl's entire character arc. He can't leave Otella alone, he loves her so much even if she scares and saddens him. He wants to do what he can for her, and if he can't then he wants her to leave the town alone. He doesn't believe her, but can't find it in himself to distrust her. The love he has for her blinds his judgement, but it's his best quality. He is loyal beyond all else, and it is his vice and virtue.

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Istina - Only If For A Night (Florence and the Machine) "And the only solution was to stand and fight | And my body was bruised and I was set alight | But you came over me like some holy rite"

Istina's character arc follows her growth from rejecting her past to accepting it as a part of herself. The strive she was forced to live with, forced to fight for. A lifetime of pain inflicted to and by her, and she must somehow figure out how to not only look past but accept it. The only way to find redemption is to make it.

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Heine - Ship in a Bottle (Fin) "You set sail alone, there is no crew | No one on the deck who can help you | This is all your own battle to win | This is your ship and you are the captain"

Heine is genuinely Grief Incarnate. He lets his mourning of Fiasola overtake his entire being. He can't let himself live without taking on those qualities of hers that she left behind. He changes from being the pushback of their dynamic duo to being the push and the pull. He feels himself to be alone, but in the sense of being dishonest with himself and incapable of forming true connections until meeting Ein. "Oh Captain let's make a deal, where we both say the things that we both really feel." He can't be honest with his grieving until he is forced to be, when there is no option but to be honest.

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Emo - You Are The Moon (The Hush Sound) "Darkness, darkness everywhere, do you feel all alone? | The subtle grace of gravity, the heavy weight of stone"

An endless chasm of death, a desolation so profound it cannot be described. To have her home destroyed, her family reduced to nothing but memory, she is the only pillar left to save Lorelei from itself. She is alone, and yet she is kind, she is understanding. Someone with nothing, still willing to give everything for those around her.

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Brakka - What Doesn't Kill You Will Make You A Killer (Rabbit Junk) "What doesn't kill you will make you a killer | Your eyes are screaming that you're high on rage | Nails, splinters, glowing embers | How you arrived, you don't remember | And you're never going back in that cage"

Brakka will do anything for revenge, at any cost, and when it's taken from him he becomes completely despondent. To him, it's his everything, his reason for being, the only reason to exist. Having it taken from his, it's worse than any withdrawal, it's a fate worse than death. But he must continue, there is no other option.

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Shrika - Church (Fall Out Boy) "Trust me, that's what I will be | Oh, the things that you do in the name of what you love | You were doomed but just enough"

Thersites - Church (Fall Out Boy) "And if death is the last appointment | Then we're all just sitting in the waiting room | I am just a human trying to avoid my certain doom"

Two sides of the same coin. The love/loath that organized religion creates. Shrika, the caring missionary, and Thersites, the cynic forced to conform. Thersites wouldn't be compelling without Shrika's compassion, and Shrika wouldn't be compelling without Thersites' pessimistic realism.

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Dianthus - Jitter Doll (Judyphonic Cover) "Its so loud | Through my head, came all this static noise around | What's the word again? They call it love, oh yes| That a human feels so deep"

Desperate to feel love, desperate to understand love, Dianthus is so close to the edge of corruption at any time. Her consciousness is at risk of ending up like Geist the more she interacts with the Abels, but she loves them. Even though she pretends to not understand, she does. There is a noise so loud in her wiring, and she knows it's love.

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Geist - Starkiller (Bear Ghost) "Don't resist, just give in | Save us some time | Well, I'd ask for your soul | But it's already mine"

Song chosen more for the vibe and literal name of it, but it still fits the theme of Corrupted Geist not considering any alternatives. He has a hypercritical mindset and refuses to take no for an answer. He believes there is a correct answer to an impossible question, and as a result corrupts both literally and figuratively.

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Unicorn - The Vampyre of Time and Memory (Queens of the Stone Age) "I want God to come and take me home | 'Cause I'm all alone in this crowd | Who are you to me? Who am I supposed to be? | Not exactly sure anymore"

If you had to chose between living in knowledge that you were created as a construct, everything you've ever known was falsified... Could you? Your love isn't real. Your identity isnt real. You are nothing more than an experiment created by God with artificial memories. Could you persist?

[judithan-xing]

bites you

[jake-marshall]

Convinced @owls-den (@/owleeve on twt!) to play Harvestella and they're loving it! And have also indoctrinated them into the church of Therakka chyeaahhhh. 😈😈😈 They sketched these while in the midst of 3C! First sketch is based off a WIP I've started!

(Plz no spoilers if you reblog 🙏🙏; they haven't finished the main plot or either Brakka or Shrika's events!)