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it's so great that in greek tragedy there are only three paradigms for a woman leaving her house (her wedding, her funeral, and maenadic rites) and they're all kind of the same thing also
#this is very much entirely in the realm of the cultural imaginary#in real life ancient greek women (of all classes) did indeed leave their houses for a wide variety of reasons apart from these#but tragedy doesn't acknowledge them and instead suggests a world in which these are the only three legitimate reasons a woman leaves home#and thus tries to understand everything else in terms of these three paradigms#mine#reading
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𝓐𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓵𝓵𝓮𝓼 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓟𝓪𝓽𝓻𝓸𝓬𝓵𝓾𝓼
a playlist
꩜ You know Me Too Well - Nothing but Thieves
꩜ Daylight - David Kushner
꩜ Empire Now - Hozier
꩜ Mountain at My Gates - Foals
and more! Listen here
#spotify#playlist#fanmix#moodboard#soundtrack#spotify playlist#aesthetic#music#achilles#the song of achilles#madeleine miller#patrochilles#patroclus#patroclo#aquiles#la canción de aquiles#spotify fanmix#spotify mood#greek tumblr#ancient greek#greek mythology#greek moodboard#trending#suggestions are welcome
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Hey! Would you do a list of names from Greek mythology? Male, female, and gender-neutral! Thanks!
Greek Mythology Character Name Ideas
-> feel free to comment suggestions, I'll do my best to add them to the list.
Male:
Damon
Hector
Jason
Zeus
Hermes
Adonis
Apollo
Argus
Linus
Helios
Mentor
Midas
Nestor
Achilles
Alexander
Eros
Hyperion
Theseus
Simon
Patroclus
Prometheus
Myles
Diomedes
Troy
Female:
Athena
Daphne
Helen
Penelope
Phoebe
Selene
Iris
Clio
Cassandra
Thalia
Gaia
Anthea
Larisa
Harmonia
Aella
Chloe
Calypso
Adrasteia
Medea
Cora
Hermione
Melia
Hera
Rhea
Acantha
Melete
Gender-Neutral:
Atlas
Paris
Ajax
Leander
Neilos
Lykos
Priam
Xanthos
Zephyr
Dione
Ione
Circe
Pallas
Themis
Anthen
Carme
Echo
Xanthe
#character name ideas#character names#name list#name ideas#name suggestions#name help#oc name ideas#oc names#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#ask box prompts
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Hymn to Womanly Dionysos
I praise the God who runs with wild women, She who takes joy in their forms, Who Herself bears long hair, soft skin, delicate lashes, Dionysos of womanly epithets, Who wore long dresses in Her youth. I praise Dionysos who runs with the Maenads, Who surrounds Herself with ever-present holy wild women, Reveling in their company, Dancing under the sacred darkness at night, By day feasting on wine and honey and milk. Come to me now, O gently blessed one, Whether Your head is laid in the lap of Your beloved wife Ariadne, Who traces Your lips with Her own gentle hands, Or whether You are lying in flowered meadows with maenads, Who themselves rejoice in Your feminine form. Bless me with an ever-present sense of peace, Bless me with the love of women, Bless me with perfect joy in my own gender. May Your gentle cow-like eyes always behold me with kindness, May Your hands hold mine when I sorrow, And when the world raises a hand against me, May I hide behind Your flowing skirts, And may Your thyrsos be raised in my defense.
#definitely a pretty personal prayer#partially based off of a chapter in The God of Ecstasy where the author suggested that the maenads were based on ancient Greek choruses...#...of lesbians#anyways happy pride Dionysos is lesbian today#dionysian#dionysos#dionysus#hellenic polytheism#hellenic polytheist#dionysos deity#dionysus deity#hellenic pagan#hellenic gods#hellenism#sorry for the radio silence i've been dealing both with my grad party and a family emergency
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this isnt what i usually post, but im trying out hellenic polytheism worshiping Apollo. im very new and dont really know what im doing but i did do a fair amount of research and made a basic altar. i still need help/suggestions, so dont hold back.
#apollo#phoebus apollo#hellenic polytheism#hellenic deities#hellenic pagan#hellenic polythiest#hellenism#apollon deity#apollon#altar#suggestion#pls help#greek tumblr#ancient greek#greek mythology#greek gods#hellenic gods#hellenic community#hellenic worship
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Medusa wasn’t a priestess??? What?! They’re too many versions OF ONE FUCKING MYTH. (Also, Athena w/ a gun.)
Yup, idk how this idea got so popular, it wasn’t made up by Ovid either, in fact he implies the opposite saying she had many suitors, it was incorrectly stated in Pindar: The Olympian and Pythian Odes, by Basil L. Gildersleeve (1885)
What’s ironic is that this was just a passing comment in a note toward the end of the book, not in the main part, kinda like how Ovid’s tragic backstory was passingly mentioned in a few lines and wasn’t the main part of the story, funny how that works.
While I don’t know the how, in how this misinformation became so mainstream, I have a general idea of the why. See this is part of a very old trend where ppl feel that the only way to make a character sympathetic is to make them the most innocent, perfect and tragic character possible, especially if they were a woman. It wouldn’t be all that dramatic if Medusa was an average girl who had tons of suitors and wasn’t particularly religious and fled to Athena’s temple for sanctuary. She has to be this pure devoted priestess who seeked protection from the goddess she devoted her whole life to only to be horribly betrayed.
#Medusa retellings be like ‘YOU DON’T KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT HER STORY!’#and then makes her a priestess#something that wasn’t even SUGGESTED in ancient sources#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#greek mythology#Athena#athena goddess of wisdom#athena greek mythology#Medusa#Medusa retelling#Gorgon#Ovid
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Doing a project on archaic Medusa (pre-ovid Hesiod double wings scary Medusa) and can’t get over Poseidon and Medusa having sex in a meadow. I know it doesn’t say exactly what Medusa was getting up to in the Theogony, but I like to think she was running around petrifying people, making a dragons keep of statues bodies, eating raw cattle, scaring the kids etc etc -
And Poseidon bruhhh Poseidon you know he dgaf about non of that miscellaneous loss of life, bad bitch detected, he really pulled out all the stops with his charm magic - ‘a soft meadow amid spring flowers’ uknow
There’s no art of this by the way. None!!
#this is a jokey post I know I may have quite a few facts wrong#the idea of scary im gonna eat you ah Medusa having mind blowing spine tingling impregnating sex in the flowers#fills me with a difficult to name enthusiasm#I’m considering how Poseidon might have worked the charm there - maybe it was a double power play - like both have defeated the other#maybe they were specifically aiming to do it freaky and nasty - and the antithetical powerful and scary fuck over the soft meadow-#-brought excitement on its own#poseidon#medusa#archaic Medusa#ask to tag //#greek mythology#theogony#hesiod#gorgon#text post#autismposting#greek pantheon#ancient greek mythology#// suggestive#// nsft text
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A.U where Chaós shits itself so hard that Greece becomes a Primordial Nuclear Apocalypse, lands & natural life twisting n mutating to become, like said Soupy Creator, Pure Chaos, Gods included. their having it rough rn
Uhhhh- the only reason I’m proposing this idea is bc I wanna imagine Super-Ultra-Kool-Demigod-Trickster-Survivor Odysseus running around surviving n killing Eldritchifid Monsters & other ppl while trying to take care of a traumatised feral Telemachus and two soon to be three in a few months feral Fankid Bastards he had thru Manwhoring two certain brothers :),,,
Yes, he’s Preganant w/ a third child of both Zeus n Poseidon’s Ichor, and no, it is not helping w/ his own feral urges 🫃.
#bullshit to keep me going ♾️✨#epic the musical#epic fandom#shitpost#greek tumblr#greek myth retellings#greek gods#epic odysseus#ancient apocalypse#epic zeus#epic chaos#epic poseidon#epic telemachus#Wetthunderthighs#odyseidon#zeusseus#Odyzeusseidon#odysseus x zeus#odysseus x poseidon#feral instincts#feral odysseus#Feral Telemachus#Wetthunderthighs! Mpreg shenanigans#slight eldritch horror#Tw mpreg#tw mpreg talk#tw suggestive joke#Single parenting#Gonna call this A.U:#Where do You Run when The Apocalypse Comes? A.U
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i mostly post about silly gay brainrot on here, but in real life i tend to be a pseudo-intellectual tartt-dostoevsky nightmare girl who spends her time reading things that no one’s cared about for centuries.
anyways, may i present my favourite ancient greek comedy, Lysistrata, by Aristophanes, premiered in 411 BCE:
in this play, the women of athens and sparta (cities leading opposite sides of the peloponnesian war) band together and occupy the acropolis, taking possession of all the public money of athens and going on a sex strike until their husbands/lovers end the war. it’s hilarious, and if you read about the original performance (produced by aristophanes’ friend, callistratus) and costumes, it gets even more absurd. featuring: athena, the closest thing ancient greeks ever got to feminism, a character named σκοροδοπανδοκευτριαρτοπώλιδες, and sex jokes that would make a stripper blush.
below is a photo from a modern production, and trust me when i say that this is… not inaccurate to how it was originally performed over 2 thousand years ago. it’s not at all decent, so beware lol
they performed it like this in 411 BCE.
i’ve been thinking about lysistrata a lot recently because it was the topic of an episode from my all-time favourite podcast. the episode is a few months old by now, but i’ve had a summer, so i only just got around to it. linked here.
then, just after listening to the episode, i was in an absolutely magical used bookshop that was like an eclectic, authentically developed maze that went on forever in all directions. the kind you imagine being owned by a witch or mysterious old man. they also had 6 cats. anyways, i was playing with one of the cats, and lo and behold, my eye falls directly on a copy of lysistrata. i’ve read lysistrata multiple times, but i didn’t have my own copy, so i bought it. now, i was already in the ancient section of the shop, but what are the odds? i’m the most materially analytic person you’ve ever met, but sometimes i do feel the gods that i don’t believe in (it would be athena, in this case) smiling on me.
#eagerly awaiting the single note i’ll get#lysistrata#the one with the sex strike#it’s important to understand the context of old attic comedy#in that this play is far from an empowerment piece#but going as far as to suggest that women could hold such power (even in jest) was somewhat radical#it’s also just really funny#you get to laugh at the men plenty#aristophanes#aristophanic comedy#attic comedy#greek comedy#ancient greece#ancient greek#attic greek#ancient greek literature#ancient greek theatre#peloponnesian war#athens#sparta#athena#in our time
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Zeus: Am I in trouble?
Hera: Take a guess.
Zeus: No?
Hera: Take another guess.
#greek mythology#greek myth#hera#zeus#hera and zeus#zeus and hera#not zeus and semele coming up as a suggestion before zeus and hera. rip girlie.#ancient greece#mythology#incorrect greek mythology#greek gods#mythos#incorrect quote#greek myth meme#greek myth memes#greek mythology memes#greek mythos#greek mythology meme#myth#incorrect greek gods#incorrect greek quotes#incorrect greek myth#incorrect quotes#olympians#twelve olympians#greek olympians#mount olympus#tagammemnon#classics#classics memes
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Ariadne Abandoned by Theseus (1774, Oil on canvas) - By Angelica Kauffmann (1741–1807)
#kind of obsessed with her today (Ariadne)#i wish there was something solid i could read about her :(#but everything is just like. a couple of lines.#ive been skimming articles too#and i think one is suggesting there was whole Euripides text about Theseus that we've entirely lost#i haven't studied ancient greek lit in a long time#like. i wanted to read something about theseus and the Minotaur. but i can't find anything really#only modern retellings#usually designed for children (?)#i think my conclusion is that there is no actual text about that whole saga still remaining? and we've just pieced it together#which. very cool. but pretty unsatisfying#anyway she helped save Theseus from the labyrinth. and then they essentially eloped. but he abandoned her#(pictured above) maybe accidentally. maybe intentionally because he didn't want to marry her. maybe because he was convinced by Dionysus#because in most counts she seems to marry Dionysus after and become immortal#sometimes she dies on the island though after theseus leaves#woes of emily
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So, I had this little incorrect quote with Hades, Persephone, and Mother Gothel in the Dreamlight Valley universe in my head all day yesterday and just had to post it lmao
CW: suggestive dialogue 🔞 (minors dni)
Mother Gothel: Oh, Hades! Glad I found you, dear. You do plan on returning that bottle of olive oil I let you borrow yesterday, don’t you?
Hades: Oh right, the olive oil I had to trade ya 30 shiny citrines for just so I could borrow it to make a meal for my dinner date with Persephone last night. Yeah…about that…
Mother Gothel: Ugh, please. Don’t tell me you’ve lost it.
Hades: No, I just uh…used all of it. Sorry ‘bout that, babe.
Mother Gothel: All of it!? You mean to tell me that you used up an entire bottle of olive oil for a meal that serves two…deities? I know Persephone has a rather…hearty appetite, but —
Hades: Yeah, I’m gonna cut ya off right there before ya say something you deeply regret. But, no I didn’t use that much for our dinner…I uh…needed it for something else. Well, actually Persephone and I needed it for something…after dinner.
Mother Gothel: (skeptical) You both made a dessert with olive oil?
Hades: Not exactly.
Mother Gothel: Then what on earth did you need it for?
Hades: *smirks* Whaddya think we needed it for?
Mother Gothel: I don’t… *expression quickly switches from confused to disgusted* Oh my god.
Hades: Funny, y’know, Persephone said the same thing to me last night. Good thing it wasn’t extra virgin, know what I mean, eh?
Mother Gothel: I wish I didn’t. Consider this the last time you borrow anything from me.
Hades: (sarcastically) Aw, what a shame.
Later that day…
Persephone: So, did you talk to Gothel about the olive oil?
Hades: Yeah, I had the displeasure of chatting with her earlier today.
Persephone: She wasn’t upset about you accidentally knocking it off the counter and breaking it, was she?
Hades: Eh, she was a little peeved, but she’ll get over it. She usually does.
Persephone: True, but she’s probably never gonna let you borrow anything from her ever again after this.
Hades: Yeah, probably not.
#I haven’t started Storybook Vale yet (I will soon!) but I like to think Hades doesn’t like Mother Gothel lmao#because she’s always passive aggressively insulting Persephone (and eveyone else in the valley)#and NOBODY messes with his girl#also fun fact: I read that the ancient Greeks actually did use olive oil for lube so the more you know I guess lmaoooo#suggestive#slightly not safe for work#minors dni#🔞#disney#hades#Hercules#disney’s hercules#persephone#disney hades#hades disney#Dreamlight valley au#hades hercules#persephone oc#disney oc#hercules oc#self insert oc#oc x canon#incorrect disney quotes#hades x persephone#persephone x hades#persephades#mother gothel
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Iphis
from Greek and Roman Mythology
submitted by anon
#it was so hard to find accurate pics for this. articles love to slap any old painting of 2 ancient roman women and call it iphis and ianthe#but iphis isn't a woman. that's kind of the whole point#anon suggested iphis and ianthe as a pair but we know that they are a couple. it just comes down to what iphis's gender is#iphis#iphis and ianthe#roman mythology#greek mythology#ovid's metamorphoses#classic literature#polls#queer#trans#new post
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commonplace journal, 06.08 FRI
big ole yapping session after the break
‼️‼️ YAPPING ‼️‼️
normally i wouldn’t post big sections of this journal, because usually it doesnt have so much content. however today i needed quick notes in class, and i am a slow, SLOW, typer. (learning to touch-type and type quickly never really stuck with me…)
Anyways!! today was really good content-wise, though i did have to leave early because my computer was about to go flat. the unfortunate circumstances of forgetting my charger. However, i do want to talk about what i did cover, becasue it was interesting!
today’s tut covered greek colonisation, which was the expansion of greece. though from lecture; as it does differ from imperial colonialism, it is not innocent (this pertains to how some colonies were founded and maintained through violence)
activity #1: independent reading task (with class discussion)
prophetic colonisation - through the oracle of delphi and declartion of apollo, there was reason to form colonies. though, there was also overpopulation and war to account for in colonisation. a specific war that was made mention of in the reading was a war between Chakis and Eretria (and how different ancient historians attributed different allies, and the wars that surrounded when this war occurred).
activity #2: small group reading: cyrene
so as a group, the Decree of Cyrene was read. what we found was that the justification for founding the colony was under religious reasoning (declaration from Apollo, and they would honour apollo at a sanctuary in cyrene). an interesting few points was that if there was no success at cyrene, the travellers were to return to Thera (the colonisers) within 5 years. refusual to return would be seen as rebellion, and order the death of the rebel (and the wording went on to suggest those related to the rebel? though i’m not to sure on that). there was also the notion of equality to an extent — any who arrived at any time, even after the original settlers, were equal in their existance. though the extent of this is questionable.
that’s all for this update(?) thanks for reading so far if you get to this! take care!!
#studyblr#study blog#student#studying#uni#uni student#univeristy#floras not studying#i am actually on the TRAIN hahahhaha#i was just doing the little sketches that are on the oage because i was bored#then i thought ‘hm i could post this oage because its relevant to study’#and ultimately the goal of this blog is to talk about what is interesting about my learning#also why its a ‘bigger’ post (for/from me) regarding these diary/journal like entries#also i 100% suggest having a common place journal#either just for whatever or for uni/college#it can have anything and everything in it#from notes of little ideas through the day#to class notes#to drawings and sketches#to photos and to-do lists#i literally put everything that i cant put anywhere else into the journal#so get a commonplace journal#commonplace journal#history#ancient history#ancient greece#greek history#history major
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#what the HeeeEEEEeeeeLLLLlllllll#elon musk#andrew tate#mark zuckerberg#jordan peterson#and ancient greek naked oil wrestling apparently#weve bought back naked oil wrestling but at what cost 😔#none of the contestants are hot and the guy who suggested it is the worst 😔
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You should definitely make a YouTube video or a podcast dragging those retellings left and right 😅
I would but I don’t actually read them lol I have a low tolerance for bad books and would just give up part way, so where is the fun in that?
#there’s so much slop when it comes to Greek mythology YouTube tho…#there are ai videos left and right spreading misinformation#so I will consider your suggestion lol#greek mythology#ancient greek mythology#greek pantheon#greek mythology retelling#youtube
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