#amphibia s2 finale

[cometblaster2070]

it's been 3 years now but i will still rant about how much I LOVE true colours and how it is genuinely one of the best season finales of a show I've ever seen.

that being said; another thing i love about it is how much POTENTIAL it has for so many different storylines and I love all the AUs people have.

but i won't lie the thing that always gets me the worst is the fanart and the fanworks that deal with sasha's reaction right after the episode ends.

(im aware we saw this in s3 but just humour me for a bit)

like in the span of an episode, this girl betrayed her friends, realized that there was a greater enemy and decided to stop him, found out her bsf was responsible for this whole mess that they were in, AND THEN YK THE HORRIFIC END WHERE SHE SEES ANNE AND THE PLANTARS GO THROUGH A MYSTICAL MAGICAL PORTAL WHILE SEEING MARCY GET SHISH-KEBABED IN FRONT OF HER.

just the aftermath of that got me so BAD; the way sasha could do NOTHING but stand and watch as both of her best friends were taken away from her.

and the funniest part of it is that sasha is "strength" she is the one who's supposed to protect and defend and keep marcy and anne safe.

but she failed. she failed and she was powerless to do anything. she couldn't go with anne through the portal and she couldn't do anything to stop andreas from stabbing marcy.

just the sheer guilt.

anyways, i always loved those AUs that dealt with sasha's crippling guilt and PTSD after the episode; especially the ones that also went 'oh yeah marcy's sort of DEAD in this :D'.

[kiwibirb1]

Hey Anne? Maybe you're better off without me.

[cartoonwishes]

I'M NOT OKAY

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

So which finale you think was better, Amphibia or The Owl House?

ooh, this is a hard question. kind of. if we’re talking about finale alone, i think amphibia was better because at least it wasn’t as underwhelming and anticlimactic as toh’s. i liked seeing sasha’s and marcy’s calamity forms, although i think they could have gotten more screentime and importance to the plot. also the whole prophecy thing was so lazily written, we never get an explanation as to why these three girls were the chosen ones.

but if we’re talking about the final seasons overall, i think toh is better because unlike amphibia, it gave SOME importance to the trauma the characters went through. i still hate that we never got to see hunter work through his trauma but at least we saw him express grief and frustration, and retain his scars, unlike amphibia where anne sees her friend die and then immediately forgets about it, and marcy is apparently completely fine and happy and healthy after all the torture she went through.

hope that answers your question!

[heart-wit-strength]

There's something just so profound about NBD ending with Anne singing the line "finally me and it's no big deal" that hits differently than the rest of the song

[pidayforpi]

(Watched the first episode of Amphibia today and I can already tell it's gonna be great.)

[badgorlcoven]

there’s genuinely no way that any team of writers, no matter how talented they were, would have been able to take the bum deal the owl house got and turn that final season into anything other than, at best, an anti-climax. there’s absolutely no way it wouldn’t have been rushed. i can only commend dana and the team for giving it their all, and trying their best with the constraints they were given. but the only thing that final episode can do is make me angry: not at the team, but at disney for handicapping one of their best shows for no reason, and leaving it like this. obviously rushed, so many ideas that should have had room to expand but no time, not much for the rest of the cast to do during the episode proper. with how cut short s3 became, it almost makes the prospect of rewatching the series later difficult knowing that it’ll hit a brick wall and just kind of end. i watched a rerun of the disney xd broadcast and it immediately cut before the credits so i only just now saw the extra stuff which im at the very least glad we got (older luz, some answers, more of luz and amity together, hunter and willow confirmed) but....ugh. dana terrace you will always be famous, you and the crew didn’t deserve this

[iffasart]

I love both the animals and the silly frog show

does anyone on this god damn site even think about amphibia

[agalychnisspranneusroseus]

Wake up baby new AU just dropped!

AU in which time passes different in Earth and in Amphibia, so that when the girls come back to Earth, despite being in Amphibia for like 6 months, 10 years have passed.

Their families have lost all hope. They stopped searching. They think they're dead. Marcy's parents leave LA. Sasha's parents start new families of their own. The Boonchuys... well...

I know what you're thinking, what's up with Anne's little visit to Earth then? If time passes so fast in Earth when compared to Amphibia (or is it the other way around?) wouldn't she be back like... two minutes after she left? And to that I say: the girls stay in Amphibia for 5 months before the S2 finale, when Anne goes back to Earth. Let's round it up to 6 months for convenience. Half a year. So 0.5 years in Amphibia (6 months) equals 10 years on Earth. Let's say Anne was gone from Amphibia for 1 month. That's 1/6 of 10 years on Earth. 10 ÷ 6 = 1,6 (roughly). A year and a half. So let's say Anne was on Earth looking for a way back to Amphibia for one year and a half. She turns 13 at the very start of the show and she's 13 and a half when she goes back to earth. One and a half years later, she's 15 now. She's two years older than her friends now, isn't that a little bit tragic? 😭😭 ANYWAY

The Boonchuys are can't believe their eyes when they see their baby girl on their front door - and Anne can't believe hers. Her disappearance must have really hit them because they look so... old... they're in their late 50s, early 60s now. And their little girl still looks like a little girl.

They talk and they tell each other everything. Or almost everything. Anne tells them she needs to get the Plantars back home, but skips the whole, friendship betrayal, evil king part. And they tell her she's been missing for 10 years.

It's a lot. She can barely begin to process it. More and more time passes as she tries to find a way home, and she has to go back to school. Her parents sign her up to a new one, where no one knows her, after working through some new personal documents to match her current age. She spends her nights looking at old photos of Sasha and Marcy. She makes up for the lost time with her parents, realizing that, now, she's going to have them in her life for 10 years less. She tries to contact Sasha and Marcy's parents, but Marcy's parents left years ago, and when she finally finds Sasha's family in social media, she doesn't know what to tell them.

A year and a half after her return, she finds a way back to Amphibia. She finds Sasha and hugs her and doesn't want to let her go. Sasha is a bit surprised to see she's put on some inches, but doesn't think much about it until that night, when Anne tells her about her new discovery, and for a horrible, shameful moment, Sasha considers leaving Marcy behind, after what she's taken from them.

(It passes quickly. She's terribly mad at Marcy and doesn't know if she'll ever be able to forgive her, but she still loves her).

Then they find Marcy, and there's no time for explanation - they're so happy to have her back they can't think about anything else than being in each other's arms again. It's not until they're back home that Anne's stomach sinks with the realization that she never told Marcy the whole story.

It hits her hard. Way harder than Anne and Sasha, even. Sasha reunites with her parents and explains everything and she's devastated by having lost so much time, but they hold her so so tight and take her back home. They want to make up for lost time, and they're willing to try to get along for her sake.

But Marcy has nowhere to go. The Boonchuys still haven't found the Wus, after a year and a half more of searching (Anne feels horrible for leaving them again, even if she had no choice - they're firmly in their early to mid 60s now, and she feels like she's running out of time). They let Marcy stay for as long as she needs to, and Anne insists that she come share her room.

It's all complicated. Time passes and the Boonchuys don't want to keep Marcy out of school for much longer, so after a long series of legal processes I'm not going to describe because I don't know how this works, they end up legally fostering her, and send her to school, the same Anne and Sasha are in - the Boochuys and the Waybrights agreed that it'd be better for the girls to be there for each other. Now, Sasha and Marcy are in the same class, but seeing Anne already in highschool (sophomore year, I think it's called?) really make it dawn on then that Anne is now two full years older than them. Or a year and a half? Idk, but she's older, and it's pretty shocking. They wonder at one point if she'll even want to hang out with them now, considering she could have cool high school friends and all (plus... all the other stuff), but that's silly - they will always be best friends! They're everything to Anne and Anne is everything to them, no way she's ditching them for anyone else.

She does grow a lot more protective of them, though.

[mdhwrites]

In your opinion does "The Owl House" have any re-watch value? Does the story, characters, characterization, writing, etc. hold up over repeated viewings or is the show played out after the first time through the series?

So I want to acknowledge that this is actually an awkward question. Not with how you phrased it or anything just... Period? Because whether something is rewatchable will mostly come down to personal taste and enjoyment. Some people find Horror movies to be great fun to rewatch while others may not see the point because you already know all the scare moments or answers to creeping dread. Some might find action movies exciting to rewatch while others need the novelty of a first rewatch. As such, my answer is very much so is going to be biased by the fact that I ended up not liking the show.

But... I broke essentially on rewatch in a way. A lot of people have shattered on TOH essentially from having to reconcile what it says versus what it does. A lot of this because TOH constantly kicks payoffs down the line and hints at potential it will reach. It is constantly making the journey suffer for the promise of a grand finale. And, well... A lot of people have agreed that the shortening did not force their hand to break multiple themes in the finale, or take Amity's character or a bunch of other things that bloated the series and never got a proper payoff, such as the Collector.

This format of TOH I think is actually what makes it so hard to rewatch unless you are the ultimate fan of it who will notice nothing. S1 is labeled as boring, a complaint I even agree with as someone who mostly likes S1 still. It spends the most time setting up plot lines though in episodes that are a pretty safe seven out of ten, or worse. Amity episodes can escape this problem decently often, being fun in their own right, but that's why the fandom only acts like half, at best, of S1 even exists. Most of it is easily forgotten because it's very forgettable. Not like in a S1 of Amphibia way where it's all so much fun but also so much of it that they can blur and be hard to separate but just in a "I just wasted 20 minutes of my life watching an okay kids cartoon" way. The only thing that helped those episodes not feel that way was this idea that it was building towards something with these characters.

And... After the shock of things like the Lumity Kiss being real, I don't think S2 holds up for being the majority of those payoffs. Amity and Willow? One of the most explicitly kicked cans? Seen interacting on the same side before either addresses the "We're not friends' thing because of Eclipse Lake, so that's pre-shortening and they still didn't decide to address and then address it badly. Luz's magic is wrapped in a plotline she's not a part of and has no real reaction to even. It's just "Oh, we're just making bullshit up now instead of finding glyphs? K." Amity's parents are wrapped up, in the same episode, early S2, in a very similar way where Amity is barely a part of that episode but now her core angst and excuse for being a bad person? Dealt with and out of the way, at least until they randomly decide to try and say Alador TOOOOOTALLY wasn't a bad guy. That he hated Odalia too. Totally doesn't contradict literally everything that came before, something that would be much more sharply noticed on a binge rewatch. Like... It cannot be understated that by the point most plot threads in TOH wrap up, they were introduced and left to rot for so long that half the time, the fandom was starting to get UPSET during the runtime for the lack of any exploration or conclusion. Long hiatuses didn't help but at its core, even when it was running people were wondering when we would get satisfying answers to thing and rarely were they happy about it.

I think this is a core part of why ONLY the shipping community seems to have clung to TOH. That or people who are exploring the show's missed potential with characters like Belos or the Blights. The fandom has had to either commit to the one thing TOH did do well, its shipping (that comes with so many fucking asterisks) and its potential baiting. But the latter also means you have to recognize why it failed in the process of doing your exploration of the work.

So will some people enjoy rewatching it? Of course. There are people who probably like rewatching the AtLA movie though because the die hards are die hards. Do I think from a casual perspective you get much out of rewatching a random episode, let alone binging the series again?

No. I just think disappointment that the main series will leave you, which will eventually no longer be tempered by the reputation of it having been shortened, will only get worse. It is not a tale worth seeing again, so I hope I see you in the next one.

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[thisbelongsto-nohbodys]

Idk if anyone’s done a mockup of this but I was thinking about how cool it would be if they released Amphibia on dvd and it was in the style of the Adventure Time dvds where each season was a character.

Obviously for 3 seasons each one would be one of the Calamity Trio, so for S1, it’d be Anne, the sleeve is her armor, remove that and it’s her school uniform, then the dvds have her blue gem, the Plantars, her sword and tennis racket, Domino 1 and her parents maybe. Then S2 would be Marcy, once again her armor and then maybe if they wanna be cruel, her uniform but with Andria’s’ flame sword mark (tho that might be too much of a spoiler for anyone that hadn’t watched it), then of course the dvds would have her green gem, her crossbow, journal, yulivia and Andrias. Finally Sasha would be S3 and it was hard to figure out her sleeve and case, maybe the sleeve is her calamity armor and the case is her S3 resistance commander armor? Then of course the dvds being her pink gem, Grime, her swords and idk what else.

I just wish we still not only had some effort put into show dvds but had dvd release of shows at all. Oh well, I can dream can’t I?

[watery-melon-baller]

Yeah i accidentally found the ENTIRE episode on YouTube!!! i clicked away but be careful please!!!

FOR THE FUTURE WAS LEAKED!!! THE WHOLE EPISODE!!! BEWARE SPOILERS!!!

As usual, the dinguses at iTunes released an episode early, and while they took it down ASAP, people still managed to download the whole thing. So the entire episode is floating around somewhere. Twenty days before it’s meant to be released. Last time this (might’ve) happened to Thanks to Them, that was just a week! Who keeps screwing this up and why haven’t they been fired, while so many more competent people struggle to find jobs?!

[kiwibirb1]

Okay thinking about True Colors and this marcy drabble popped into my head-

"It wasn't supposed to go like this!" Marcy stared at Anne, eyes desperate and searching. Anne glowered back, eyes filled with betrayal.

"How was it supposed to go, then?" Marcy opened her mouth, desperate pleas about to spill out, a frantic explanation. But she stopped, frozen in place. Her mouth closed, and the words that followed were small, quiet.

"I don't know."

Sasha spluttered, "What do mean you don't know!? You just threw us into another world on a whim!?" Marcy broke eye contact with Anne, looking at Sasha. Her broken face had sobered into a grim line, and her sobs reduced to silent tears.

"I didn't think that far. I never did."

Ahhhhhhhh okay so that went a bit farther them I meant it to but the main thing in my head was frantic marcy "it wasn't supposed to go like this!" Followed by calm yet furious anne with rhe "how was it supposed to go then?" And like a pause, before in this sad, little, broken voice, marcy whispers, "I don't know." And fuck I wish I made good art ahhhhhhh I need to draw this to show it properly but I sjsjdhskdg

[fanfic-inator795]

SPOILERS FOR “THE END”

Okay so, much like the ending of Amphibia, I’m sure this ending’s gonna be controversial for some people for being so bittersweet and for it also ending with the two BFFs splitting seemingly forever… but honestly? I fucking loved it.

While the penultimate ep felt slightly rushed and just a tad unsatisfying due to all they had to cram in and wrap up, I love that this show’s finale was ultimately focused on just Molly, Scratch, and the latter’s series-wide arc of changing for the better and “being brought back to life”, as the TGAMM show bible put it.

Having believed in the Wraith feeling since the start, I was afraid that the Todd reveal would feel rushed given that the crew lost the 3rd season of set-up they wanted, but thankfully it managed to feel fairly natural since - while Todd himself may have been a more subtle hint that you’d only notice if you were paying attention- again, Scratch’s arc and the clear changes we see from him are made known throughout the series. So by the time you finally get to the big payoff, it feels like a natural conclusion.

For all the info dumps we got, I also felt like the ep was pretty well paced as well, still having jokes that made me laugh so it never felt too heavy or melodramatic. I also love that all the major characters in Scratch’s life got to play a role in this one final adventure. I also love that - for as important of a role that Adia played in helping Scratch regain his memories - it wasn’t framed as Scratch choosing his old BFF over his new BFF, but simply Scratch choosing to be brave and live the life he always wanted deep down instead of continuing to run away/hold himself back.

As for what could be seen as the Most controversial bit - Scratch forgetting his time as a ‘ghost’ - I feel like this was incredibly well crafted too. Like anything else in TGAMM (and as Molly herself says) there’s still that spark of hope hinting at Scratch still remembering Molly and the impact she had on him. He’s going to live with those memories and the importance she gave to enhappifying in his heart, even when he doesn’t consciously remember these things.

What’s more, the show also subtly but beautifully emphasizes that even if Scratch won’t fully remember Molly and the others until he’s officially died, the time he spent and the things he did for others as a ghost still mattered - they’re still going to be remembered by Molly, the McGees and their friends, and I LOVE how they also brought back Scratch’s silly toboggan-sneeze curse as just another way a part of ghost-him is going to stick with all of them no matter what - no matter how far apart they are.

While I would have liked one final song (which, I guess we arguably did get that in the credits) I also feel like ending the show on Libby’s Maya Angelou quote was the perfect summation on the show’s core themes - to not just do good for others, but for yourself. To live your best and happiest life.

In my opinion, this truly was just a master class in satisfying series finales. We didn’t need any big final battles or a ton more drama, just one last beautiful character piece that isn’t afraid to be somewhat bittersweet in order to fully sell its message while also still being just as fun and enjoyable and lovely as the rest of the series.

Really, the only thing that makes me kinda sad is that Scratch never said goodbye to GhostShark - but hey, he’ll see him again eventually, and honestly my hc is that the Jeoffs are taking care of Sharkie for him in the meantime. Other than that, this was a 10/10 finale for me, absolutely no notes.

Now… obviously this was the finale that the TGAMM crew was always leading up to, I assume once they realized that they weren’t getting a s3 they asked Disney to give them one final ep to wrap things up. If that wasn’t the case though and this was always meant to be the s2 finale, I guess s3 would be about Todd slowly remembering his life as Scratch and eventually coming back to Brighton alongside Adia to help Molly stop Jinx’s revenge or whatever. But… eh, I personally don’t think that’s needed.

I think the show ended perfectly, leaving just enough ambiguous for fans to still imagine how Molly and Scratch’s adventures are going to continue one day while at the same time being super satisfying - probably the best series finale that we’ve seen out of any modern Disney cartoon.

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

the whole prophecy thing in Amphibia was so half-baked. it had the potential to be a really interesting plot points, but not only was it only revealed like two episodes before the finale, it was also so sloppily explained.

Mother Olm says that Anne, Sasha and Marcy were given the power of the calamity stones in order to save Amphibia from becoming its worst version. that's all fine and dandy, but why these three girls specifically?

what do three teenagers have that other people don't? especially considering how two of them were extremely selfish at first and wanted to use the stones for their own interest.

Sasha even tried to kill the frogs in s1 and take over Amphibia in s2. how is that a person worthy of the calamity powers? sure, she redeemed herself later but the prophecy couldn't predict that. for all they know, Sasha could have chosen to stay evil and hurt the people of Amphibia even more.

prophecies tend to be vague but usually there's some sort of explanation for why a person is chosen by that prophecy. maybe it's a hereditary thing, or perhaps they've proven themselves capable of being a hero, there's usually some line of logic.

not to mention, the part about Anne potentially dying was shoehorned into the second to last episode (if i remember correctly). it was clearly setting up for a temporary death that only served as shock value.

i can't believe people still actually bought Anne's death and didn't immediately realize how cheap of a plot point it was. instead of seeing Sasha and Marcy actually do something useful with their powers, we get like five seconds of them showing off their powers and then Anne taking over and doing the important stuff.

[arcadiii]

there’s something so fun about marcanne in the way that they come across as your typical childhood friends to lovers trope, they’re silly, they’re soft but then when you peel back the layers, you find how integrated their individual issues are within themselves and their friendship.

think of how anne in pre-amphibia and s1 is very much a follower, she wants to be seen doing this “correctly” based on her friends opinions for friendship points, and it’s the way that because she’s dealt with this for so long, she hides her true heart-locked self. combine that with marcy wanting to avoid anything that might shatter their friendships because from HER pov she’s already losing them via moving. there’s just so little communication about their true feelings so on the surface and from anne’s pov (by s2) they start to become better with anne being more true to herself but marcy isn’t so anne assumes that their friendship is the strongest and marcy hopes it’s enough but the cracks are already there, they’ve been layered over with a bandaid that’s just waiting to be ripped off by True Colors.

it’s the way that their issues are all internal rather than external, it’s the silent way that their friendship is breaking with and without their knowledge and because they’re both still dealing with their own personal issues and not communicating, it’s breaking their own friendship!

it’s only when TC happens and puts marcy in the position where she has to be honest about her own feelings that they can start to heal and it’s almost like all hope is lost when marcy gets stabbed but anne holding onto that hope that’s she’s still alive because god. she can’t be dead. she finally understands marcy’s fears and worries and she forgives her and they need to resolve what’s hanging over their heads

and then finally, all in, where marcy finally wakes up held in her friends arms and the first thing they do is reassure her: we love you and we forgive you, because marcy’s always loved them, so much that she’d give them everything she had to give but most of all, she needed that forgiveness

it’s the whole “i thought we were okay, i thought we loved each other but now I’m questioning everything i ever knew”